Sex Offenders

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What were you thinking of when you read that?
Child Molesters? Rapists?

Were you thinking of two teen age kids who sent a nude photo of themselves to each other and got caught?

Would you want your child to be arrested and charged with Child Pornographer, which carries LIFETIME REGISTRATION AS A SEX OFFENDER for just sending Nude photos of each other....

I would venture to say, most who read this article have absolutely NO idea just what constitutes a Sex Offender today.
Look at this article: How to Become a Sex Offender in America
(http://cfcamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=120)

Many of these laws are violating the Constitution of the United States.
Many of these laws are ruining countless thousands of children and families lives.

We need good politicians to work on Stopping the sex offender laws which are harming our families.
Everyone knows we need good laws to protect our children from Pedophiles and Molesters... we need good laws to protect us from Rapists....
But lawmakers are Raping the American People with their Ignorant Lawmaking.

[Ex Post Facto]

Agreed 100%. I think Sex Offender laws began a long steady, and rapidly expansive police state mentality, and social conditioning of the public. Remember when there was a sex offender around every corner? Everyone was suspect.

Violent sex offenders need to be locked up forever. It's a waste of resources to mandate people register as sex offenders, prohibit them from living near any children, restrict their employment, and when anything happens assume they may have had something to do with it. Even that one story of the teenager that got some head during a party in a hotel room got locked up in prison. I remember Junior High School sneaking around with girls on the field doing things I could have been locked up for under these standards.

[trey4sports]

i think its really effed up myself
in general women "mature" faster than males (go through puberty earlier) and in general men date younger women because of this. so why should an 18 year old male go to jail for hookin up wita 16 yr old girl? wack

[pcosmar]

Why should someone be on a sex offender list for taking a piss in an alley?
I read one awhile back, A guy pulled a drunk girl out of the street to keep her from getting hit. He is now a sex offender because he brushed against her breast.
Stupid laws.

[Anti Federalist]

We can't even get people to understand that smoking a joint does not merit a jail term, let alone, once the "sex offender" label is applied, trying get understanding of how unconstitutional this is.

[Kotin]

We can't even get people to understand that smoking a joint does not merit a jail term, let alone, once the "sex offender" label is applied, trying get understanding of how unconstitutional this is.

+1!

[He Who Pawns]

These laws are out of control. Even guys who have served their time in jail are getting retro-active sentences that completely ruin the rest of their lives.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I AGREE! I knew a guy that had to pee really bad so he pee'd behind a tree on the side of some road, some kid saw him and he was then classed as a sex offender, WTF?

[thasre]

I read about some lady in Georgia who is a registered sex offender because she gave head to some kid who was a few days shy of sixteen when she was a month or two older than seventeen. She was convicted in like the early 90's or something.

Apparently since that time Georgia has changed its law so that statutory rape against a minor only counts if there's a gap of more than 2 years or something between the people involved in the sex, but they won't reconsider her sex offender status because "it wuz teh illegalz when she done it!!" basically.

I understand having some kind of law in place to protect young adolescents from actually being sexually exploited, but the fact that people are punished under loopholes that shouldn't exist in the first place and then are still punished for it after the law has been revised is almost as disgusting as molestation itself.

[thasre]

I AGREE! I knew a guy that had to pee really bad so he pee'd behind a tree on the side of some road, some kid saw him and he was then classed as a sex offender, WTF?

There was one time when I was like 6 years old that I was playing in a school park and had to pee really bad so I went and peed in a corner on the school, and some old bitch with nothing better to do than sit on her porch I guess saw me and called the police.

They were threatening to send me to juvenile hall for public indecency and apparently something having to do with "damaging public property" (because we all know that school building was majorly damaged by having about 3 ounces of urine hit the foundation). I was six years old. I didn't know any better. I thought I was being discreet. I could have probably killed and eaten a squirrel and rubbed its blood all over my body and gotten in less trouble.

[Dorfsmith]

I've tried to explain this stuff to certain family members and they automatically think I'm defending pedophiles. They go straight to "you and your stupid libertarian ideas. You're an anarchist who doesn't believe in laws". They will not wake up until it affects them personally. Maybe when every member of congress has to register as a sex offender for some reason or another we will see some changes.

[Working Poor]

Men need to grow up sexually. Not all men but many men seem to place a priory on sex and are driven to extremes.

I don't agree with the sex offender laws btw so don't accuse me of it.

If you visit prostitutes you are contributing to slavery in America. If you are married and visiting prostitutes you are a jerk.

If you are an older man seeking sex with a younger girl you need to be sure they are of the age of consent..

[pcosmar]

Men need to grow up sexually. Not all men but many men seem to place a priory on sex and are driven to extremes.

I don't agree with the sex offender laws btw so don't accuse me of it.

If you visit prostitutes you are contributing to slavery in America. If you are married and visiting prostitutes you are a jerk.

If you are an older man seeking sex with a younger girl you need to be sure they are of the age of consent..

????
I would say the same thing about women.
TOO many use sex as a weapon.
Or as leverage.
Or as an income producing tool.

I really think the people that write and promote these stupid laws need to grow up.

[thasre]

I just want to say that prostitution is NOT slavery, or at any rate it wouldn't be if it were legalized and there were industry standards about the rights of sex-workers and it wasn't just something poor women had to turn to because they have no alternatives.

And I say this as someone who considers prostitution a mortal sin. There's nothing "slavish" about people consenting to exchange money for sexual favors. It's just morally repulsive. But so are a lot of other perfectly legal things.

[heavenlyboy34]

I just want to say that prostitution is NOT slavery, or at any rate it wouldn't be if it were legalized and there were industry standards about the rights of sex-workers and it wasn't just something poor women had to turn to because they have no alternatives.

And I say this as someone who considers prostitution a mortal sin. There's nothing "slavish" about people consenting to exchange money for sexual favors. It's just morally repulsive. But so are a lot of other perfectly legal things.

Well said. :) (except I don't consider prostitution a sin) Thanks!

[TonySutton]

I am sure there is federal money tied to this somehow. The more people you get on the registry, the more federal dollars you get or some other asinine thing.

[pcosmar]

I am sure there is federal money tied to this somehow. The more people you get on the registry, the more federal dollars you get or some other asinine thing.

Add to that the removal of 2nd amendment rights, or being unable to ever sit on a jury.
Great control mechanism.

[thasre]

Well said. :) (except I don't consider prostitution a sin) Thanks!

The fact that I think it's a sin is actually irrelevant to my argument... I just mentioned it to show that I don't have some sort of vested interest in the legalization of prostitution.

[Dorfsmith]

????
I would say the same thing about women.
TOO many use sex as a weapon.
Or as leverage.
Or as an income producing tool.

I really think the people that write and promote these stupid laws need to grow up.

Amen.

[tangowhiskeykilo]

What I don't understand is how can making a porno (sex for money+distribution) be legal if prostitution isn't? Isn't it pretty much the same thing?

[TonySutton]

What I don't understand is how can making a porno (sex for money+distribution) be legal if prostitution isn't? Isn't it pretty much the same thing?

Follow the money!

If prostitutes had a union, it would be legal.

[Working Poor]

I just want to say that prostitution is NOT slavery, or at any rate it wouldn't be if it were legalized and there were industry standards about the rights of sex-workers and it wasn't just something poor women had to turn to because they have no alternatives.


Follow this link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/?search=MSNBC&q=sex+slaves&submit=Search&id=11881780&FORM=AE&os=0&gs=1&p=1

In this link there are many accounts of women taken against their will and forced to perform sex with men against their will. Children in the USA are being kidnapped and forced into slavery and frantic parents are being ignored and being told that there children are run a ways.

I think prostitution should be made legal and regulated.

Make no mistake guys if you pick up young girls off a street corner they are more than likely slaves and you are contributing to children being exploited and killed . I think you ought to be put in jail and have your balls cut off if you are married and not mature enough to work things out with your wife so you can have a satisfactory sex life without exploiting young girls who are being threatened and beaten by pimps.

Believe me no self respecting 15-18 year old would be doing this because they think it is fun. They are doing it under threat and manipulation. NO SELF RESPECTING WOMAN WOULD WANT TO BE PLEASURING MEN AT RANDOM AND FOR PAY.

Tell me guys would you want your 15 year old daughter to be exploited this way? Would you want to marry a prostitute?

[mconder]

Would you want your child to be arrested and charged with Child Pornographer, which carries LIFETIME REGISTRATION AS A SEX OFFENDER for just sending Nude photos of each other....

It's as barbaric a practice as The Scarlet Letter A. The fault lies with the parents for not teaching their boys to be men who respect women. Government institutions will have no effect on this behavior. Society will continue to decay unless parents become active in shaping their children.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I just want to say that prostitution is NOT slavery, or at any rate it wouldn't be if it were legalized and there were industry standards about the rights of sex-workers and it wasn't just something poor women had to turn to because they have no alternatives.

Sometimes it is slavery. There is a real problem with human trafficking for the sex trade and even when not, if they get involved with a pimp the first thing that pimp is going to do is try to get them hooked on crack or heroin so they won't run away.

Our labor and drug laws are also largely responsible for people getting into prostitution. On the labor side, we have the issue of runaways. No address and under age means they can not get a legitimate job. If they are lucky, someone takes them in and takes care of them either that or they get a job selling drugs. Otherwise, boys generally become thieves and girls become prostitutes. As to drugs - the heavy ones at least, the War on Drugs keeps the price high, and in order to support their habit they have to resort to this.

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

so mooning and pissing in public are now considered "sex crimes"...

remember that scene in Brave Heart... or the one in American Graffiti?

I wonder if all those actors know they need to run down and register as "sexual predators"?

as to pissing in public - well, state and national forests are public places - right?

That means the entire membership of the Sierra Club is composed of "sexual predators". Maybe someone should tell them...

-t

[danberkeley]

so mooning and pissing in public are now considered "sex crimes"...


What about showing cleavage? :D


...

Believe me no self respecting 15-18 year old would be doing this because they think it is fun. They are doing it under threat and manipulation. NO SELF RESPECTING WOMAN WOULD WANT TO BE PLEASURING MEN AT RANDOM AND FOR PAY.


I hear strippers have a lot fun stripping. Btw, would you marry someone who cleans public (the worst kind) toilets for a living?


Tell me guys would you want your 15 year old daughter to be exploited this way? Would you want to marry a prostitute?

Rather have her be forced go to a government school and be sexually assaulted there. :rolleyes:

[danberkeley]

Sometimes it is slavery.

Sometimes, anything can be slavery.

[pcosmar]

Believe me no self respecting 15-18 year old would be doing this because they think it is fun. They are doing it under threat and manipulation. NO SELF RESPECTING WOMAN WOULD WANT TO BE PLEASURING MEN AT RANDOM AND FOR PAY.



Nice fantasy world you live in.
Apparently you have never met any predatory women. I have. Several in fact.
I have one in the family.

[danberkeley]

Main Entry: self–re·spect
Pronunciation: \-ri-ˈspekt\
Function: noun
Date: 1765
1 : a proper respect for oneself as a human being
2 : regard for one's own standing or position

Where in there does it say you can't be a 15-year-old prostitute AND have self-respect?

[Working Poor]

Look I don't think a man ought to have a sex offender record if he pisses on a tree.

I think a man who is over 18 and has sex with a minor ought to be going to jail because no matter how good it seems to the man the girl is still a child and not able to make good choices. Men need to grow up.I think the parent ought to be jailed for not having better knowledge of where their child is and what they are doing.


Where in there does it say you can't be a15-year-old prostitute AND have self-respect?

Oh please give me a break!!


Nice fantasy world you live in.
Apparently you have never met any predatory women. I have. Several in fact.
I have one in the family.
If there were not men thinking with their "little head" there would be no predatory women

[pcosmar]

If there were not men thinking with their "little head" there would be no predatory women

Now that is some seriously arrogant ignorance.

History is filled with examples of predatory women.

And just what makes a biologically mature woman a child? some random age? That has changed at different times and in different societies.

No wonder this country is so screwed up.

[danberkeley]

Look I don't think a man ought to have a sex offender record if he pisses on a tree.

Agreed.


I think a man who is over 18 and has sex with a minor ought to be going to jail because no matter how good it seems to the man the girl is still a child and not able to make good choices. Men need to grow up.I think the parent ought to be jailed for not having better knowledge of where their child is and what they are doing.

What about a man who is 17 years 364 days?


Oh please give me a break!!

:p Dont get mad because you're wrong.


If there were not men thinking with their "little head" there would be no predatory women

That doesnt even make any sense.

[Working Poor]

So you actually believe a 15 year old girl prostitute could have a good self image? Give me a break.

Surely you jest. I can't believe you don't see anything wrong with that and I hope you never have any female children.

[pcosmar]

So you actually believe a 15 year old girl prostitute could have a good self image? Give me a break.

Surely you jest. I can't believe you don't see anything wrong with that and I hope you never have any female children.

Woah wait.
I am 51 yrs old, My wife is 63. I am hardly chasing young girls.
I listened to some neighbor girls(14/15) bragging about sucking the chrome off a bumper hitch.
I have dated Dancers in the past. They liked the attention and the money. They made more in 2 hours than I made all week.
I had an Ex that became a prostitute on her own. Her choice after much consideration. She said she might as well get pad for what she enjoyed doing anyway.
And my step daughter is Predatory. She is working on her 6th husband, and doesn't have the divorce from the 5th yet. She leaves destroyed careers and broken hearts behind.

Reality is far different that what you seem to think it is.

[danberkeley]

So you actually believe a 15 year old girl prostitute could have a good self image? Give me a break.


Yes. Especially if her self-image is influenced by her environment.

[danberkeley]

Anyway, personally, I think child prostitution is shameful and that no one should do it.

[pcosmar]

Anyway, personally, I think child prostitution is shameful and that no one should do it.

I agree with that. But these laws do little to affect that, and cause great harm to people that have nothing to do with child porn or abuse.

It is just another of those "Feel Good" laws that is both ineffective and easily abused.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I think a man who is over 18 and has sex with a minor ought to be going to jail because no matter how good it seems to the man the girl is still a child and not able to make good choices. Men need to grow up.I think the parent ought to be jailed for not having better knowledge of where their child is and what they are doing.

Could you please explain how a girl that is a day short of 18 is so much more a "child" and "not able to make good choices", but 2 days later she magically is?

What about those states where the age of consent is 16? - should the federal government come in and FORCE them to make it 18? Are people that live within some imaginary borders (states) somehow able to to make good choices 2 years earlier than those that live just over that imaginary line but with a higher age of consent?

What about if the girl is the one that is 18 and the boy underage - should she go to jail?

how about the 14 and 15 year old's that both get charged with statutory rape and labeled as sexual predators because they had sex together.

For that matter, what do you think of 13 and 14 year old girls being married off to 30 year olds and getting pregnant right away? Happens every day in Islamic countries. Should we invade the Middle East so we can FORCE your values on them?

Come to think about it, Western values "poisoning" their cultures is most of what's behind the WoT...

-t

[Working Poor]

What about if the girl is the one that is 18 and the boy underage - should she go to jail?

YES!!!



Oh BTW-
I was a stripper once. I made great money and did not screw for money. I did it for almost 10 years. I enjoyed it. I did not hussel any man out of their heart or their livelihoods and I did not have to because the money I made dancing was enough for me. I was an adult not a child and I can't imagine how much I would have been taken advantage of if I had been a child.

I knew a lot of women who did turn tricks and they spent most of their money on dope and supporting some jerk while living in some scumbag no tell motel many of them died young from o.d.ing and disease.

I don't know much about women who marry for money. I will say this anyone ought to have the good sense to check out someone's background and know enough about how they operate when considering marrying them. Especially if they have a lot of money and property. Otherwise I am sure there would be someone to come and teach you a good lesson.

As far as listening to teen aged girls talk about sucking the chrome off a hitch were you apart of that conversation or were you hiding in the bushes eves dropping? Either way I think you were in the wrong.

[Dorfsmith]

I agree with that. But these laws do little to affect that, and cause great harm to people that have nothing to do with child porn or abuse.

It is just another of those "Feel Good" laws that is both ineffective and easily abused.

Exactly.

[pcosmar]

YES!!!



Oh BTW-
I was a stripper once. I made great money and did not screw for money. I did it for almost 10 years. I enjoyed it. I did not hussel any man out of their heart or their livelihoods and I did not have to because the money I made dancing was enough for me. I was an adult not a child and I can't imagine how much I would have been taken advantage of if I had been a child.

I knew a lot of women who did turn tricks and they spent most of their money on dope and supporting some jerk while living in some scumbag no tell motel many of them died young from o.d.ing and disease.

I don't know much about women who marry for money. I will say this anyone ought to have the good sense to check out someone's background and know enough about how they operate when considering marrying them. Especially if they have a lot of money and property. Otherwise I am sure there would be someone to come and teach you a good lesson.

As far as listening to teen aged girls talk about sucking the chrome off a hitch were you apart of that conversation or were you hiding in the bushes eves dropping? Either way I think you were in the wrong.

I don't care what you think. From this conversation i don't think you have much experience in it.
the girls were outside my fence in the street and thay were not being quiet about their conversation. My neighbors house(trailer) was close enough that i could hear their toilet flush form inside my house with the TV on.
They were bragging to each other in a way that young men did when I was young.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I agree with that. But these laws do little to affect that, and cause great harm to people that have nothing to do with child porn or abuse.

It is just another of those "Feel Good" laws that is both ineffective and easily abused.

+2

[Liberty Rebellion]

YES!!!



Oh BTW-
I was a stripper once. I made great money and did not screw for money. I did it for almost 10 years. I enjoyed it. I did not hussel any man out of their heart or their livelihoods and I did not have to because the money I made dancing was enough for me. I was an adult not a child and I can't imagine how much I would have been taken advantage of if I had been a child.

I knew a lot of women who did turn tricks and they spent most of their money on dope and supporting some jerk while living in some scumbag no tell motel many of them died young from o.d.ing and disease.

I don't know much about women who marry for money. I will say this anyone ought to have the good sense to check out someone's background and know enough about how they operate when considering marrying them. Especially if they have a lot of money and property. Otherwise I am sure there would be someone to come and teach you a good lesson.

As far as listening to teen aged girls talk about sucking the chrome off a hitch were you apart of that conversation or were you hiding in the bushes eves dropping? Either way I think you were in the wrong.

:rolleyes:


NO SELF RESPECTING WOMAN WOULD WANT TO BE PLEASURING MEN AT RANDOM AND FOR PAY.

You pleasured random men for pay, how can you have any self-respect? ;)

[Working Poor]

You pleasured random men for pay, how can you have any self-respect?

I did not"pleasure" men with any part of my body I danced and they looked if they were pleasured it was because of what was going on in their mind. I can assure you I had no self respect though. A woman with self respect would not volunteer to do slave work. The only smart thing I did and it could have been just luck was buy some waterfront property.

It seemed like fun but I no doubt ended up feeling the real weight of why I did it. Fortunately I did meet a man who insisted that I quit. He is the father of my children and a real love.

But back to the topic

People I believe a human can make a mistake and be forgiven. I also believe if a person has sex or commits a sexual act such as masturbation in front of a child or with a child that there ought to be sever punishment. I don't know what a just punishment would be I guess it would depend on how much the child was injured. There is no real way to measure mental abuse though and in some cases I think what it does to the mind is worse cause the body can heal but the mind takes longer and people who are these kinds of victims can make many mistakes trying to learn how to deal with it. For what is worth I feel that people who commit these kinds of abuses were abused and there needs to be some way of identifying these people before they hurt a child, but most likely it needs to be done in childhood.

Girls like me grow up and become strippers working for an SOB who makes millions because of sexual abuse. At 13 years old I could not walk to the corner store without some ass hole trying to pick me up I felt like it was my fault and that I brought it on and it was what I deserved.

I did not like the attention I was getting from grown men it I felt very humiliated and ashamed. If I had not felt so guilty and afraid there might be some men in prison right now over the attention I was getting. But men will be men and boys will be boys. I feel like so much of my life was taken from me because men were much more interested in my bra size than my brains and actually seemed to think that because I had big tits that I was not good for much else except for what was going on in their mind about my tits. I can assure you there are many women who have had this kind of abuse from total strangers when they were children and a large percentage of them grow up and become strippers and whores because they feel that they are not good enough for anything else.

My brothers got in fights at school almost daily trying to defend my honor from guys trying to grab me and do things like try to stick pins in my breast. I suppose they their parents were teaching them that this was okay because boys will be boys... But it was my fault cause I had big boobs...I did not have the heart to tell my brothers about the men....

[pcosmar]

Working Poor , you have touched on a couple points. I took some offense when you blamed it all on men.
First, let me say, that I am a Christian (though imperfect) but am also a course man due in part to some of the roads I have traveled.
The real problem is sexual repression. Every one of us has sex, whether male of female. Everyone has a sex drive. Either we accept it and have a proper view of it, of we repress it.
I believe that repression is responsible for a degraded view of sex. It either gets twisted into some form of deviance of a prudish attitude that all sex is wrong. Humans have a natural sex drive, but if normal and natural is repressed it will take another direction.
The other problem is in education. It should be done in the home, but often is not. I do not believe that it is the states place either.
These laws do nothing to correct either of those problems.
They do not prevent abuse. and often abuse the innocent.
There is no doubt that someone that abuses children should be punished, but these laws are ill conceived and badly implemented.

[Working Poor]

These laws do nothing to correct either of those problems.
They do not prevent abuse. and often abuse the innocent.
There is no doubt that someone that abuses children should be punished, but these laws are ill conceived and badly implemented.

I don't know what the answer is but awareness of the problem is the first step I think.


I realize that people are sexual in nature. Sexual freedom does not mean a person ought to be sexual with everyone that turns their head. I started a thread about this. I believe that people need to have more understanding of themselves and others. Below is a link to the thread I started called "Sexual Liberty" perhaps you will find some food for thought there:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=161156&highlight=Sexual+Liberty

[Number19]

So you actually believe a 15 year old girl prostitute could have a good self image? Give me a break...And you think that out of the entire world population there isn't one single 15 year old young adult prostitute who has a good self image? Give me a break.

Way back when, I was roommates with a young woman, actually she was 18. She was sexually intimate with more than a few "boyfriends", nothing serious, but kind of like in Robert Heinlein's "I Will Fear No Evil" - if you were close friends with a guy, she saw nothing wrong with being intimate with that person. She also saw nothing wrong with accepting money from other men, who were closer to "customer". For the time I stayed with her, at least, she was not otherwise employed.

My point is that one's views on sex is a product of the social culture you are brought up in.

In Houston a few years back a (legal) Mexican national made headlines by having a sexual relationship with a 13 year old. Neither the man, the girl nor the family saw anything wrong with this. In the Mexican village, and the culture, they all had immigrated from, this was accepted, normal and expected.

You are seeing this only through your own cultural upbringing.

[Liberty Rebellion]

I did not"pleasure" men with any part of my body I danced and they looked if they were pleasured it was because of what was going on in their mind.

Sure you did; with your entire body. If you were dancing naked, I'm sure some man got some sexual pleasure and satisfaction out of it. Granted, you didn't physically touch them like a prostitute would, but you certainly brought pleasure to random men (unless you were a bad dancer :p).


I can assure you I had no self respect though. A woman with self respect would not volunteer to do slave work.

Slave work? Dancing nude on a stage for a large sum of money at your own free-will is slave work? Funny, I always thought slavery was people toiling under laborious, physically demanding jobs for little or NO pay with no choice in the matter, or being forced to pay someone money just because they say so.

How do you define "self-respect" since you define stripping as "slave work?"


It seemed like fun but I no doubt ended up feeling the real weight of why I did it. Fortunately I did meet a man who insisted that I quit.

Everyone does things for their own reasons and has their own views on their own personal experiences. Just because YOU felt you had no "self-respect" has nothing to do with how others may feel about themselves in the same occupation or in another occupation. They probably even have a different definition of "self-respect" just as other people I know define "morals" differently than I do.

[Working Poor]

And you think that out of the entire world population there isn't one single 15 year old young adult prostitute who has a good self image? Give me a break.


No I am sure there is not one 15 year old prostitute that feels good about what they are doing. Do you not realize how young 15 is? Don't you know that these girls never are able to keep any of the money? The pimps would never allow a 15 year old girl to be out there competing with their business for one thing and for another prostitution is not the natural choice of a 15 year old. A 15 year old is not a woman either.

Most of the time when these girls are old enough to be considered an adult they are so strung out on drugs which most likely was not in the beginning their choice and full of disease cause no matter what you think about it street level pimps don't usually take very good care of them and they treat them like crap to keep them subdued. Girls who work the streets have pimps and they mostly likely won't even live long enough to gain their freedom. Prostitution is not a glamorous profession especially not on the streets. these girls are to be pittied and they need help. Anyone who tries to help them could also be putting the girl in danger.

[akihabro]

Everyone who read this thread is now a sex offender and needs to report to their local police immediately. So says the law!

[SimpleName]

There is a segment in John Stossel's "Sex in America" about this. He does an excellent job of showing the truth behind all these nonsense sex offender laws and how they severely hurt innocent people who must be ridiculed and questioned about the matter for the rest of their lives. There is some limit where it becomes very strange and the child doesn't understand what is happening, but 14-17 year olds know what they are doing and have every "right" (if their guardians give consent) in the world to engage in any act they want with legal adults. Pennsylvania and South Carolina have more open laws, allowing a 3 or 4 year age gap, but nonetheless...the whole thing is blown WAY out of proportion.