did that bit-- on HBO just call austrians econ extremist ???

[TXcarlosTX]

or have i been hanging out with phelps to much tonight?

[MRoCkEd]

was it the clueless maxine waters

[RSLudlum]

Yep! And that she wouldn't want to live in a country that tried that kind of experiment :rolleyes:

Financial Times moron wearing FRN Green

[No1ButPaul08]

or have i been hanging out with phelps to much tonight?

No, you heard right. She said there was a very extremist economic view called the Austrian School.

[No1ButPaul08]

was it the clueless maxine waters

Chrystia Freeland, US Managing Editor of the Financial Times

[TXcarlosTX]

No, you heard right. She said there was a very extremist economic view called the Austrian School.


WTF!!!


ok another revelation i had about the show.... was it obvious that bill had that setup question and answer and joke about ron paul being some kind of pothead?? to marginalize his interview?

or have i just been hanging out with phelps to much tonight??

[MsDoodahs]

Remember Maxine kissing Bernanke's ass at that banking committee hearing when the FIRST bailout was getting discussed?

She was all about "we have people of color in MY DISTRICT and I expect YOU to make sure WE get some of this MONEY Mr. Bernanke."

And when the bankers were in front of them, she opened with something like "welcome, masters of the universe." Which was a good line, really. lol.

[sluggo]

Nothing like listening to four socialists discuss what's best for America.

I suddenly remember why I avoid Maher's show like the plague.

[devil21]

Nothing like listening to four socialists discuss what's best for America.

I suddenly remember why I avoid Maher's show like the plague.

It's MUCH worse than in the past. Now that Obama is in and Bill can't bash the Republicans much anymore, the socialist agenda is getting much more airtime. Im not happy at all about this episode other than RP's appearance.

ETA: Wow, he's even saying to take notes from socialist Sweden and friggin China!

[dannno]

dannno is getting upset!

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2483/91406927gb5.jpg

[Jeremy]

ooooooo freedom so scaaaaary

[ClayTrainor]

Guys... obviously printing trillions of dollars is good for the economy... grow up.


Silly Austrians :p

/sarcasm

[mrchubbs]

Not that I would ever condone email bombing her or anything but....

http://www.ft.com/arts/columnists/chrystiafreeland

Email:
chrystia.freeland@ft.com


Enjoy.

[devil21]

Not that I would ever condone email bombing her or anything but....

http://www.ft.com/arts/columnists/chrystiafreeland

Email:
chrystia.freeland@ft.com


Enjoy.

Oooh....brings back memories!

[maqsur]

That Financial Times moron of a lady pissed me off so much, starting with the "extremist" comment. I told my wife that this lady is just a pair of tits, no brains. Pardon my rant.

[mrchubbs]

Oooh....brings back memories!

It really does, doesn't it?!

:D

[Conza88]

I need to see the youtube of this...

Then I'm going to get some good physical exercise... hate is pretty good fuel. :D


Not that I would ever condone email bombing her or anything but....

http://www.ft.com/arts/columnists/chrystiafreeland

Email:
chrystia.freeland@ft.com

Enjoy.

Sent.

[dannno]

Not that I would ever condone email bombing her or anything but....

http://www.ft.com/arts/columnists/chrystiafreeland

Email:
chrystia.freeland@ft.com


Enjoy.

thank ya.

[RSLudlum]

Oooh....brings back memories!


Ooops!!!! I just got all nostalgic and sent a nice, respectful email expressing my disapproval of her comments. I couldn't help myself. :p

[JamesButabi]

Not that I would ever condone email bombing her or anything but....

http://www.ft.com/arts/columnists/chrystiafreeland

Email:
chrystia.freeland@ft.com


Enjoy.

Thank you. I was flipping out when I heard this comment. I plan to write her a few comments.

On the other hand, I was personally laughing my ass off at the stoner comment and found no hostility whatsoever.

[JamesButabi]

My email.....

The panel discusssion was highly interesting. One comment that caught me off guard was your proclamation of Austrian Economics as extreme. I highly reccomend you delve further into this school of thought at http://mises.org/. Maybe im wrong, but when confronted with a foundation of sound money and personal freedom as opposed to our current inflationary practices and extremely large government, the latter seems to be the extremist.

[heavenlyboy34]

ooooooo freedom so scaaaaary

Actually, it seems to scare all too many-including some notable RPFers. :(:p

[Ex Post Facto]

I love the title of this thread :)

[TXcarlosTX]

My email.....

The panel discusssion was highly interesting. One comment that caught me off guard was your proclamation of Austrian Economics as extreme. I highly reccomend you delve further into this school of thought at http://mises.org/. Maybe im wrong, but when confronted with a foundation of sound money and personal freedom as opposed to our current inflationary practices and extremely large government, the latter seems to be the extremist.



wow!!

thats gangster

[dmitchell]

My email.....

The panel discusssion was highly interesting. One comment that caught me off guard was your proclamation of Austrian Economics as extreme. I highly reccomend you delve further into this school of thought at http://mises.org/. Maybe im wrong, but when confronted with a foundation of sound money and personal freedom as opposed to our current inflationary practices and extremely large government, the latter seems to be the extremist.

This is good. Whenever someone claims that some policy is too extreme or too radical, a good rejoinder is to describe the status quo as radical and say the policy is common sense. For example, someone once told me that the idea of letting young people opt out of social security was too radical. A good reply is to say $60 trillion of unfunded liabilities is radical; making promises we cannot keep is radical; letting people opt out of this system is common sense. You did the same sort of thing here.

[TXcarlosTX]

I love the title of this thread :)


gracias :cool:

[Conza88]

I'd like to know how voluntary non aggressive actions between individuals with mutual consent = radical.

:rolleyes:

[daviddee]

...

[daviddee]

..

[He Who Pawns]

i hit her with an email.

[Join The Paul Side]

Not that I would ever condone email bombing her or anything but....

http://www.ft.com/arts/columnists/chrystiafreeland

Email:
chrystia.freeland@ft.com


Enjoy.


I emailed the bitch. Here's what I wrote:



I am writing you to let you know that I did not appreciate your comments as a panelist on Real Time With Bill Maher about Austrian economics being extremist. I'd suggest you learn a little about it before running your mouth with misinformation on national television.



In these days I'd take Austrian economics and the gold standard over the Federal Reserve and their inflationary policies of today. You must be so proud of yourself in your disgusting attempt to imply that Dr. Ron Paul and Austrian economics are extremist on a nationally televised program.



You, madam, are part of the problem in this country. You step in front of a camera and spout your propaganda in a deliberate attempt to misinform the people of this country that do not know better.



And for your information, Austrian economics is not what brought this the crisis we face to our economy. So instead of criticizing it, maybe you would be better off serving the American public by criticizing the real culprit behind our nation's current misfortune, The Federal Reserve and the fractional reserve banking system. Or perhaps next time you'd like to mention how printing money out of thin air not only causes inflation (which will be out next economic crisis) but also devalues our currency.



You, madam, may like the idea of paying $10 a gallon for milk, and $20 for a loaf of bread in the (near) future, but normal Americans like myself have families to feed and are disgusted that this is the future we may face while supporting our children. All because propagandist like you and your malicious attempts to spred misinformation to the American public for the sole purpose of accomplishing your own agenda, socialism.



Our Founding Fathers would be proud of you (sarcasm).



Have a nice day.

Father of 2

[devil21]

You guys are nicer than I was. I commented on her FRN green low-cut shirt and how she got her job.

[TXcarlosTX]

I emailed the bitch. Here's what I wrote:



I am writing you to let you know that I did not appreciate your comments as a panelist on Real Time With Bill Maher about Austrian economics being extremist. I'd suggest you learn a little about it before running your mouth with misinformation on national television.



In these days I'd take Austrian economics and the gold standard over the Federal Reserve and their inflationary policies of today. You must be so proud of yourself in your disgusting attempt to imply that Dr. Ron Paul and Austrian economics are extremist on a nationally televised program.



You, madam, are part of the problem in this country. You step in front of a camera and spout your propaganda in a deliberate attempt to misinform the people of this country that do not know better.



And for your information, Austrian economics is not what brought this the crisis we face to our economy. So instead of criticizing it, maybe you would be better off serving the American public by criticizing the real culprit behind our nation's current misfortune, The Federal Reserve and the fractional reserve banking system. Or perhaps next time you'd like to mention how printing money out of thin air not only causes inflation (which will be out next economic crisis) but also devalues our currency.



You, madam, may like the idea of paying $10 a gallon for milk, and $20 for a loaf of bread in the (near) future, but normal Americans like myself have families to feed and are disgusted that this is the future we may face while supporting our children. All because propagandist like you and your malicious attempts to spred misinformation to the American public for the sole purpose of accomplishing your own agenda, socialism.



Our Founding Fathers would be proud of you (sarcasm).



Have a nice day.

Father of 2



wow

thats gangster!!

[sluggo]

I sent here a very short message asking her to do some reading before she embarrasses herself on television again.

Gave her some links to make the learning process easier.

[powerofreason]

Austrian economists are certainly radical, (in a good way; uncompromising and principled), but the term "extremist" is meant to conjure up images of terrorists and deranged and brainwashed people. When Keynesianism fails yet again, how can they possibly say we didn't print and spend enough again? If there's 20 or 30 percent inflation in a year who would believe that? People can be dumb but not THAT dumb, right??

[rockandrollsouls]

Not sure why this is surprising...

Left wing -> Keynesians
and obviously the writing of Karl Marx

Conservatives -> Butchered Austrian
Libertarians -> Pure Austrian

Everything in our lives is based on political ideology... Economics is no different.

This is why for people to accept Austrian Economics they have to accept Libertarian views.

No, the self proclaimed "conservatives" are Keynesians, too. Even some of the libertarians are Keynesians, apparently. Phillies, Gravel, Jingozian, etc.

Anyway, Maxine Waters is a scrub. She was very tied to Fannie and Freddy and completely wrong the entire time. I wish Maher would check history before introducing her as an intelligent human being, because she's far from it. I wish Ron would have been on longer to say he was warning of the problem when Waters thought everything was peachy-keen.

[powerofreason]

I'm emailing the fool now.

[powerofreason]

Not sure why this is surprising...

Left wing -> Keynesians
and obviously the writing of Karl Marx

Conservatives -> Butchered Austrian
Libertarians -> Pure Austrian

Everything in our lives is based on political ideology... Economics is no different.

This is why for people to accept Austrian Economics they have to accept Libertarian views.

Conservatives are a cross between chicago school and light keynesianism, they love war for example. Modern conservatives, not old right like RP of course.

[JamesButabi]

shes gonna open her email this morning and be like......FFFFfffuuuuuuuuuuu

[tommyzDad]

That Financial Times moron of a lady pissed me off so much, starting with the "extremist" comment. I told my wife that this lady is just a pair of tits, no brains. Pardon my rant.

She aint no lady. She's a man, man!

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4083/27f5f79e6fc611dd986f000.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Look at that adam's apple.

[powerofreason]

My email:


Subject: You're the Extremist

How many times does Keynesianism have to fail before you morons realize its a complete nonsense theory of economics. Free market economics is what made our country great and I am not an extremist because I support the only free market economic school. Why don't you take some time out from worshipping the State and do a little reading.

Mises.org
Lewrockwell.com

Start there.

[Conza88]

Subject: You're the Extremist

lmao, great post :D

[powerofreason]

Subject: You're the Extremist

lmao, great post :D

Thanks! :D

And I recommend everyone buy Meltdown (http://www.amazon.com/Meltdown-Free-Market-Collapsed-Government-Bailouts/dp/1596985879/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235231965&sr=8-1) by Tom Woods so you can be able to completely demolish the arguments of every statist when it comes to economic interventions by the government. When RP, Peter Schiff, and others explain concisely and convincingly the austrian perspective on the economic crisis it really makes the Keynesians and statists sweat because its basically common sense.

So read this book, and go forth to humiliate those annoying Obamatards where you work!

[RSLudlum]

Here's the little note I sent her last night :D



Subject: Expatriation

I just saw your appearance on the Bill Maher show and have one suggestion for you to consider. Given the fact that you claimed, in reference to minimun/no regulations, that "many Americans would not like to live in a country like that", you may want to consider expatiration as a course you may want to follow in the future because our country was founded on the idea of less government (less regulation).

I'm really sorry, but I don't like people being misled esp. editors of "financial" magazines.

[nbruno322]

Send this gal some mail

Her email:

chrystia.freeland@ft.com

My letter:

Chrystia,

I caught your appearance on Bill Maher this past week and felt the need to point something out. First, I was disturbed that you would describe the Austrian school of economics as "extremist" and to paint them as some sort of kooks. Have you read anything at all about how the Austrian theory of the business cycle, their critiques of Keynesianism and central banking, or how they largely predicted what happened the past year? Or their explanations for how bubbles are formed through malinvestment, which is due to excess and easy credit and money thanks to monetary policies of central banks? I would strongly suggest you look at the Mises Institute (www.mises.org), which is the premiere institute for the Austrian free market school. Many droves of people are discovering alternatives to the Keynesianism taught in our schools. I enjoy the FT and read it daily, but fear that continuing to belitte and dismiss Austrian economics, which has been accurate in predicting and diagnosing this crisis, will cause the FT to lose credibility in the future.

Regards,

[LibertyEagle]

No, the self proclaimed "conservatives" are Keynesians, too. Even some of the libertarians are Keynesians, apparently. Phillies, Gravel, Jingozian, etc.
Whoa there. Not ALL conservatives are. I'm not. I think you're talking about neoconservatism, which isn't conservativism at all.


Anyway, Maxine Waters is a scrub. She was very tied to Fannie and Freddy and completely wrong the entire time. I wish Maher would check history before introducing her as an intelligent human being, because she's far from it. I wish Ron would have been on longer to say he was warning of the problem when Waters thought everything was peachy-keen.
Yeah, I was wishing that he had either Tom Woods or Peter Schiff on there to give our side of the deal. Maxine Waters made me sick to my stomach blaming everything on the banks and the mortgage lenders and failed to mention the Community Reinvestment Act and Fannie and Freddie.

[mport1]

Youtube?

[1000-points-of-fright]

Here's the little note I sent her last night :D

Subject: Expatriation

I just saw your appearance on the Bill Maher show and have one suggestion for you to consider. Given the fact that you claimed, in reference to minimun/no regulations, that "many Americans would not like to live in a country like that", you may want to consider expatiration as a course you may want to follow in the future because our country was founded on the idea of less government (less regulation).

I'm really sorry, but I don't like people being misled esp. editors of "financial" magazines.

She is an expat... a Canadian expat!

From wikipedia: An Alberta-born Ukrainian-Canadian, Freeland has worked in Kyiv, Moscow, London, Toronto and currently in New York. She is the author of Sale of the Century - a 2000 book about Russia's journey from communism to capitalism

[mconder]

Yep! And that she wouldn't want to live in a country that tried that kind of experiment

It was tried once and the world changed for the good forever. At our peak, even the poorest among us lived like a king compared to those in any civilization at any time.

[mczerone]

Austrian economists are certainly radical, (in a good way; uncompromising and principled), but the term "extremist" is meant to conjure up images of terrorists and deranged and brainwashed people. When Keynesianism fails yet again, how can they possibly say we didn't print and spend enough again? If there's 20 or 30 percent inflation in a year who would believe that? People can be dumb but not THAT dumb, right??

Here's how they'll do it:

"It obviously wasn't enough spending, we'll need to redouble our efforts, or else..."