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Mesogen
02-19-2009, 02:54 PM
Cue the facepalm pics.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/19/steele-gop-needs-hip-hop-makeover/print/


Newly elected Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele plans an “off the hook” public relations offensive to attract younger voters, especially blacks and Hispanics, by applying the party's principles to “urban-suburban hip-hop settings.”
The RNC's first black chairman will “surprise everyone” when updating the party's image using the Internet and advertisements on radio, on television and in print, he told The Washington Times.
Having been elected to the job that the Bush White House and its political guru, Karl Rove, once denied him, Mr. Steele is running the show his way. To those who claimed he can't make the trains run on time, he has this message: “Stuff it.”
He stiff-armed an attempt to get him to elaborate on his public relations effort, saying he would be an idiot to give his opponents too much information, but indicated the Republican Party needs to break out of being considered a regional party.

Good god.

bonus fark thread: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4221445

georgiaboy
02-19-2009, 02:57 PM
gop-shizzle.

way to get it so exactly wrong, Steele-ja.

LibertyEagle
02-19-2009, 02:58 PM
The big government socialists are in control of the top level of the GOP right now and Steele is one of them.

Yeah Steele, the GOP needs hip hop, NOT the limited government constitutional principles that it USED TO profess. :rolleyes:

xd9fan
02-19-2009, 03:16 PM
So principle...is what so ...1770's then

Steele are we children or men?? you dipshit

Mesogen
02-19-2009, 03:26 PM
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Ex Post Facto
02-19-2009, 03:28 PM
Ice Ice Baby!

Kotin
02-19-2009, 03:31 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c262/kotin205/facepalm1.jpg

Ex Post Facto
02-19-2009, 03:47 PM
http://bum.net/pics/facepalm2.jpg

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 03:50 PM
Well look...I suggested that on Rebuild the Party. I agree with it as long as the MESSAGE is correct. Young people (the masses) are attracted to hip hop..why not put a GOOD message in it ...just like Mayer and Amy Allen appealed to the youth with GOOD messages. Conservatism NEEDS pop culture, films, music etc. I agree with Steele on this one...as long as the message is correct. tones

LittleLightShining
02-19-2009, 03:51 PM
Oh! I didn't see this and just posted another thread.


“We need messengers to really capture that region — young, Hispanic, black, a cross section…” he said in an interview published Thursday. “We want to convey that the modern-day GOP looks like the conservative party that stands on principles. But we want to apply them to urban-surburban hip-hop settings.”

He added, jokingly, that “we need to uptick our image with everyone, including one-armed midgets.”
I can't wait to talk to my state committeewoman about this tonight.

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 03:51 PM
That kid...the hip hop conservative kid Machosauce, is getting ThOUsANDS of hits on youtube..I don't agree with everything he says but it's dang sure better that OBAMA socialism. He at LEAST is talking capitalism etc. tones

werdd
02-19-2009, 03:53 PM
This is the most fail thing i have seen all day.

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Ronald Reagan said 'whoever agrees with 80% of what I believe is my friend." WAy to go Ronnie. tones

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Why? Is there any individual thought on this forum? I dislike rap/hip hop, but if the message is good and it brings young people over to the conservative side away from socialist comrade OBAMA...I applaud it. tones

werdd
02-19-2009, 03:58 PM
Why? Is there any individual thought on this forum? I dislike rap/hip hop, but if the message is good and it brings young people over to the conservative side away from socialist comrade OBAMA...I applaud it. tones

It will just breed more partisan idiots.

"IM CONSERVATIVE YO!, BECAUSE I LIKE THAT ONE FOOLS YOUTUBE RAP AND HE IS A REPUBLICAN"

fuck that, have we really come to that?

The_Orlonater
02-19-2009, 03:58 PM
Well look...I suggested that on Rebuild the Party. I agree with it as long as the MESSAGE is correct. Young people (the masses) are attracted to hip hop..why not put a GOOD message in it ...just like Mayer and Amy Allen appealed to the youth with GOOD messages. Conservatism NEEDS pop culture, films, music etc. I agree with Steele on this one...as long as the message is correct. tones

Young people will grow up, I'm not into what my peers are into. :rolleyes:
Today's culture is vile.

LittleLightShining
02-19-2009, 04:00 PM
It's laughable because Ron Paul's brand of conservatism drew sooo many young people into the arena. And not in a shallow way like Obama's youth support was, but in a meaningful, engaged, active way.

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 04:02 PM
Look you guys are brighter than the masses...of course you are at a higher level..but I'd rather appeal to the masses to move RIGHT rather than LEFT to socialism...even if it is through pop culture. THAT is what the communists did...we have to do it in reverse. I'm FOR this idea to capture the youth..catch them and expand on it later. tones

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Look..most people dont even understand half of what Ron Paul is saying..we have to attract them first and then build on it..further education. You didn't get it in a day or a month..neither will they...but hey, if it's hip hop that perks their interest and gets them in the door..we have something to work with..come on. I find this very positive and new for the old gop barstards! Tones

HOLLYWOOD
02-19-2009, 04:11 PM
http://xs536.xs.to/xs536/09084/picture_6459.png<=== NEOCON FASCIST A$$HAT

Kotin
02-19-2009, 04:19 PM
sorry.. but letting the young people out of social security will recruit more for our cause than this bullshit.

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
02-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Why? Is there any individual thought on this forum? I dislike rap/hip hop, but if the message is good and it brings young people over to the conservative side away from socialist comrade OBAMA...I applaud it. tones

The problem is that they are bringing them from socialim in a pretty bow like Obama offers and trying to sway them to the neocon warhawk message that the republicans now apparently stand for. This is not the party I grew up with!

Why can't the Republican party examine it faults, listen to voices of opposition (namely us) and appeal to people through the issues? I would much rather see new Republicans who care more about voting for true conservatives than those who are more concerned about what video is number 1 on MTV.

AdamT
02-19-2009, 04:56 PM
When "Sir Steele A Lot" pulls his head out of his ass someone let me know. They've lost all sense of purpose, focusing only on BS strategy and PR to try and reclaim their monopoly on empty rhetoric. Look at DjSteele's skin color - how obvious is that gimmick to compete with the new Dem God. "Look over here! See! We can be multi-racial too!". What a joke.

Until they forget this image crap and seek Constitutional principles & true conservative policies - and actually stand for something real again - they'll be ghost mixing empty beats to a mob of koolaid drinking Hannity-zoids until the house burns down.

RedStripe
02-19-2009, 05:11 PM
Michael Steele: For me, it's done.

anaconda
02-19-2009, 05:39 PM
It is important to understand that the RNC does not want to let go of its military-industrial complex/civil liberty crushing/mega-spending/socialism agenda. Period. It will spin some propaganda, hope for an Obama melt down, and simply try to regain power with business as usual. We need to stop trying to influence the likes of Mr. Steele and approach this from a different angle.

SWATH
02-19-2009, 05:59 PM
Translation: We need a new way to dupe people into buying the status quo again, and we need to make it seem fun to them.

JoshLowry
02-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Cue the facepalm pics.

That's what I thought before I even opened the thread.


Translation: We need a new way to dupe people into buying the status quo again, and we need to make it seem fun to them.

+1

They won't ever get it.

Anti Federalist
02-19-2009, 06:12 PM
Ron Paul drew in people of all ages and races.

People rapped about him for free: Ron Paul for the Long Haul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t724bHjCa-I)

People here love to bash Alex Jones.

Over the last couple of months, "old school" rappers such as KRS1, Professor Griff and some of the guys from Public Enemy have been contacting him, giving interviews and speaking their mind on the whole Obama deception. Jones didn't need to go run some cheesy publicity stunt to try and bring these people in. Neither did Ron Paul.

Why? Because they are both the real deal.

Steele can try as hard as wants to try and stuff the pile of shit the GOP has become into a different colored sack, but people aren't going to buy it.

Xenophage
02-19-2009, 06:12 PM
There are white folks, then there's ignorant motherfuckers like you.

Xenophage
02-19-2009, 06:13 PM
Get away mah bitch, nigga! Get yo own damn fries!

Anti Federalist
02-19-2009, 06:17 PM
There are white folks, then there's ignorant motherfuckers like you.

Huh?

Who's that directed at?

Maverick
02-19-2009, 06:28 PM
Huh?

Who's that directed at?

I believe he was quoting a line from Obama's book. Have you seen the Youtube yet of Obama reading the part of his foul-mouthed friend yet? Funny as hell.

heavenlyboy34
02-19-2009, 06:30 PM
Get away mah bitch, nigga! Get yo own damn fries!

I wisht I'd spoke ebonics as good as u! ;):D (lol!)

Anti Federalist
02-19-2009, 06:32 PM
I believe he was quoting a line from Obama's book. Have you seen the Youtube yet of Obama reading the part of his foul-mouthed friend yet? Funny as hell.

No, I've been "out of pocket" for two weeks, and am just catching up now.

I'm also sick as hell, caught some kind of damn bug on the flying tuberculosis ward that is air travel these days, so I'm a little punchy and slow.

Got a link?

SWATH
02-19-2009, 06:38 PM
Personally that's the only reason I didn't join on with the Republican party and vote McCain...they weren't speaking with enough urbonics for me to understand... foshizzle yo.

Maverick
02-19-2009, 06:39 PM
Got a link?

Got ya covered:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de5F8rrZEsU&feature=related

JoshLowry
02-19-2009, 06:39 PM
Got a link?

http://www.google.com/search?q=There+are+white+folks%2C+then+there%27s+i gnorant+motherfuckers+like+you

tommyzDad
02-19-2009, 06:42 PM
Cue the facepalm pics.

So so many from which to choose. :p

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5138/facepalmimplied0893806yd8.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7371/rikerfacepalm0938183pa5.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4862/facepalm0919312qk0.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1272/motivatorkirkchokeyourszc1.jpg

mediahasyou
02-19-2009, 06:47 PM
Reminds me of the Obama Forum (http://theobamaforum.com).

user
02-19-2009, 06:49 PM
This is so great!

Original_Intent
02-19-2009, 06:54 PM
Hey if they do a 'hip-hop' makeover of the GOP, maybe Sarah Palin can have a "wardrobe malfunction"! I'd sign up with the GOP for a day for that! :D

"I'm gonna have you naked by the end of this vote!"

coyote_sprit
02-19-2009, 06:59 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/25qg02x.jpg

thasre
02-19-2009, 07:13 PM
Not gonna lie... I'm pretty glad Michael Steele said all of this just for the laugh value. I've pretty much found more humor in this than I've found in anything else for a long time.

Anti Federalist
02-19-2009, 07:13 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=There+are+white+folks%2C+then+there%27s+i gnorant+motherfuckers+like+you

Thanks Mav and Josh.

Lolz...

ingrid
02-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Wtf?

LOL

He's going to be the guest speaker at my republican county's annual dinner next month. If he's going to talk like that there, it going to be so hard to keep a straight face.

thasre
02-19-2009, 07:15 PM
Also, I feel like we should offer advice to the GOP for new ways to oppose the Dems while keeping young hip voters in mind. My first piece of advice:

Whenever the Dems say something like, "You Republicans are evil and stupid," Republicans should respond by default, "I know you are but what am I?"

If that fails, tell them, "I'm rubber, you're glue; whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks onto you!"

That'll get the younger voters flocking to the polls!!

nobody's_hero
02-19-2009, 07:29 PM
They can 'hip-hop' their way to a landslide loss in 2012, lol.

Young Paleocon
02-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Why even have a presidential debate in 2012 when we can have a presidential free-style?

dr. hfn
02-19-2009, 08:23 PM
GOP is so idiotic!

tonesforjonesbones
02-19-2009, 08:42 PM
Very few of you went to www.rebuildtheparty.ning.com to voice any opinions..and the rest of the Ron Paulers could have used your help. So don't whine...you didn't give them the opportunity to read your views. Ya'll stay right here and pat each other on the back..so just don't whine. Tones

moostraks
02-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Wow...shallow doesn't even cover the depths this mentality reaches. Way to go...AGAIN...Steele.

And the reason the GOP picked Steele was? Is this really up for debate anymore?!?

moostraks
02-19-2009, 08:46 PM
No, I've been "out of pocket" for two weeks, and am just catching up now.

I'm also sick as hell, caught some kind of damn bug on the flying tuberculosis ward that is air travel these days, so I'm a little punchy and slow.

Got a link?

Glad you're back! Hope you don't end up with anything long term. The flu we got up here has lasted for almost 2 months!!!Ack!!!!

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-19-2009, 08:47 PM
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m77/Brooklyn_Red_Leg/Facepalmposter.jpg

Anti Federalist
02-19-2009, 09:02 PM
Glad you're back! Hope you don't end up with anything long term. The flu we got up here has lasted for almost 2 months!!!Ack!!!!

Thanks.

I know I've asked before, but where is "up here"?

Two month flu I don't need right now.

I was down with some kind of migraine headache and chills all day, Mrs. AF is feeling the same and out on the couch right now.

Soft Spoken Storm
02-19-2009, 09:35 PM
Um. Yeah.

Great, so now I'll have to get together with some friends and do a Liberty Rap.

Damn you, Michael Steele.

CaseyJones
02-19-2009, 09:48 PM
dude AF I am just getting over that, took me 5 days but I smoke

micahnelson
02-19-2009, 10:03 PM
And Now Presenting the Republican Response to the State of the Union Address: Senator Mitch McConnell

"McConnell Here to set you straight on what you just heard, you ready? Yeah here we go! Ungh. Yeah. GOP Remix in the house. We gonna be takin your ur civil liberteez, ur propateez, and part of here these cacophoniez, is the sound of the dems down on they knees, beggin please- but we don't listen bitch cuz we the G's to the O and P's. The G's. to the O and P's."

At this point lights are flashing, many white guys are trying to crunk dance. Sarah Palin is... you don't wanna know. McCain has had a heart attack, and somewhere the slight humming of Robert Taft's increasing RPM's can be heard.

trey4sports
02-19-2009, 10:05 PM
I'm not tryn to skeet on dis brudda but if da GOpizzle would get down and adopt some of da kooky kool aid drinkin Ron Paul's issues like legalizin Bud and narcs den all my homies would be down wit dis agenda, my homies would get dey ass out da hood and bring dey votes witem

trey4sports
02-19-2009, 10:08 PM
And Now Presenting the Republican Response to the State of the Union Address: Senator Mitch McConnell

"McConnell Here to set you straight on what you just heard, you ready? Yeah here we go! Ungh. Yeah. GOP Remix in the house. We gonna be takin your ur civil liberteez, ur propateez, and part of here these cacophoniez, is the sound of the dems down on they knees, beggin please- but we don't listen bitch cuz we the G's to the O and P's. The G's. to the O and P's."

At this point lights are flashing, many white guys are trying to crunk dance. Sarah Palin is... you don't wanna know. McCain has had a heart attack, and somewhere the slight humming of Robert Taft's increasing RPM's can be heard.


lmao
i could see a bunch of old white folks snorting valum and grinding

Bman
02-19-2009, 10:08 PM
Cue the facepalm pics.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/19/steele-gop-needs-hip-hop-makeover/print/



Good god.

bonus fark thread: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4221445

And all this time I believed the Republican party was failing for having piss poor policy.

WHo would have ever guessed that the porblem was not enough Republicans wearing bling, and grills.

Personally I'm ready to start the donations page for buying our Republican party leaders some gold necklaces with a huge Diamond accented initial.

This is going to be awesome. Yea!!! Republicans will be cool. Take that you leftwing hippies.

micahnelson
02-19-2009, 10:15 PM
lmao
i could see a bunch of old white folks snorting valum and grinding

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bg_photos/010.jpg

?????????

trey4sports
02-19-2009, 10:20 PM
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bg_photos/010.jpg

?????????

everyone knows old white folks use country club drugs like inner city youth use marijuana

micahnelson
02-19-2009, 10:24 PM
Exactly. Why don't we get the GOP to support legalization? The young people like it. I'm sure some minorities would like to see their dads again. Isn't a family values issue?

White dad drinks bourbon now and then, can still be father of the year. Black dad smokes a bowl? You just created another single mother and added another noncriminal to the tax payers burden. Not to mention ruined the man's life, messed up his lady's life, and now his son won't have a dad. And we all know what happens to young males from the street without a father figure.

I don't believe in a white conspiracy against minorities, but sometimes It sure looks like it.

trey4sports
02-19-2009, 10:29 PM
i agree micah.

but from a tactical standpoint the GOP (at this point) is comprised of old white folks who think marijuana is the devil, and they also have the religous right.......ehhh you know how they think

micahnelson
02-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Yeah, I just think they should do it for the Lulz.

Not like their gonna be in power any time soon. Our only hope is mass organized civil disobedience.

moostraks
02-20-2009, 09:59 AM
Thanks.

I know I've asked before, but where is "up here"?

Two month flu I don't need right now.

I was down with some kind of migraine headache and chills all day, Mrs. AF is feeling the same and out on the couch right now.

Your welcome!

We are up near Youngstown,Ohio. Well, we also have 7 children so every illnesses have a tendency to be long range. But I have literally been sick for months this time and I am over it.LOL! My dh was the vector of this vileness though so it has been great fodder for harassing him.:p

Hope you and the Mrs get to feeling better! Easy chicken soup recipe is probably your best friend as we bought 3 different types of over the counter meds for the headaches and congestion and all was a lost cause.

Anti Federalist
02-20-2009, 10:02 AM
Your welcome!

We are up near Youngstown,Ohio. Well, we also have 7 children so every illnesses have a tendency to be long range. But I have literally been sick for months this time and I am over it.LOL! My dh was the vector of this vileness though so it has been great fodder for harassing him.:p

Hope you and the Mrs get to feeling better! Easy chicken soup recipe is probably your best friend as we bought 3 different types of over the counter meds for the headaches and congestion and all was a lost cause.

Huzzah for chicken soup. We even have our own chickens, slaughtered a bunch last fall and pressure canned the broth after eating them.

We're are both feeling better today, I'm hoping we dodged the bullet.

acptulsa
02-20-2009, 10:09 AM
And all this time I believed the Republican party was failing for having piss poor policy.

WHo would have ever guessed that the porblem was not enough Republicans wearing bling, and grills.

What are you talking about? Substance?! Hell, Cadillac--all of GM for that matter--has been proving for decades and decades that you don't need a decent product if you have brand. Hooray for brand! It kept the G.O.P. in power for decades even as they ignored the preferences of it's most loyal supporters! It keeps General Motors in the black ink, too!

Oh, wait... Have things changed? Oh, my...

moostraks
02-20-2009, 10:11 AM
Huzzah for chicken soup. We even have our own chickens, slaughtered a bunch last fall and pressure canned the broth after eating them.

We're are both feeling better today, I'm hoping we dodged the bullet.

LOL! I raised chickens but never could slaughter any as I was too tenderhearted (excepting the one rooster who harassed us every time we went in the pen. He was the only one to be in the stewpot!)

So I would raise and sell them at slaughter time and bought store chickens. I was young at the time and knew nothing of the stuff contained in those store bought birds. Older and wiser now though...Just no room for the birds anymore. At least one of us is not supporting the bird industry.:)

Mmmm...the homemade soup sounds good though. Glad you dodged the bullet.

Feenix566
02-20-2009, 10:16 AM
If the GOP wants to appeal to inner city voters, the best way to do that is to get out the message about the party's support for School Choice. They can easily make the case that this plan is the best way we have of improving the standards of living for people who grow up in poor communites, and it doesn't require that they alienate any of their base. School choice is an anti-union position, which is already popular among GOP voters.

LittleLightShining
02-20-2009, 10:18 AM
Very few of you went to www.rebuildtheparty.ning.com to voice any opinions..and the rest of the Ron Paulers could have used your help. So don't whine...you didn't give them the opportunity to read your views. Ya'll stay right here and pat each other on the back..so just don't whine. TonesTones, you said yourself that doing that was a waste of time.


I'm not tryn to skeet on dis brudda but if da GOpizzle would get down and adopt some of da kooky kool aid drinkin Ron Paul's issues like legalizin Bud and narcs den all my homies would be down wit dis agenda, my homies would get dey ass out da hood and bring dey votes witem
Post of the year.

Exactly. Why don't we get the GOP to support legalization? The young people like it. I'm sure some minorities would like to see their dads again. Isn't a family values issue?

White dad drinks bourbon now and then, can still be father of the year. Black dad smokes a bowl? You just created another single mother and added another noncriminal to the tax payers burden. Not to mention ruined the man's life, messed up his lady's life, and now his son won't have a dad. And we all know what happens to young males from the street without a father figure.

I don't believe in a white conspiracy against minorities, but sometimes It sure looks like it.I've heard Ron Paul saying much the same thing.

Mini-Me
02-20-2009, 10:34 AM
Oh geez, this reminds me of what Sony did with the PSP astroturfing:
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/f/the-top-7-pr-disasters/a-2007031912215876016/g-20060314115917309058
:rolleyes:

constituent
02-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Want to attract young "black" voters?

Less Michael, More Shelby



Simple as that.


Someone mentioned KRS1, et. al., them too.

F* image, "that's just your pride stinging..."

Freedom 4 all
02-20-2009, 11:01 AM
Michael Steele may be black, but he's about as hip-hop as John McCain or a particularly uninteresting rock. If the GOP wanted hip hop they should have made that cool black conservative guy tones is always talking about RNC chair. Even then though, the GOP trying to win the young and hip vote with their current policies is as futile as the left's pathetic attempts to get the religious vote.

Nate
02-20-2009, 01:00 PM
He is right that the GOP needs someway to reach into the inner city and build a strong constituency to split the Democratic power base. Most of the underground hip-hoppers I know are not fans of Obama. The mainstream corporate backed artists are backing Obama but they are mostly usefull idiots. The problem Steele has is that most of these hip-hoppers he is wanting to go after are anti-state, anti-war on terror, anti-drug war, pro-civil liberties and pro-freedom. Many of them like myself are not going to follow the Republican neo-con fascists like Steele and his cohorts at the GOP. We do not like government because everyone of us has been assaulted by police, wrongfully jailed and treated like second class citizens since we were in grade school. We love our guns and will not give them up without a fight to the death. We like our money and will not live as socialist slaves. We control the underground marketplace already and do not need the rest of society to survive. The party of jingoistic fascism is not going to attract the hip-hop generation. If they were smart and got on the Ron Paul bandwagon then they might have a shot at attracting us.

Nate
02-20-2009, 01:05 PM
We also are the most affected by the GOP's idiotic pro-drug war stance. I personally know 13 non-violent drug offenders that are serving federal prison time due to the GOP and their prohibitionist lunacy. 7 of these guys have children who now are living off of welfare because the mothers can't support them alone.

anaconda
02-20-2009, 04:34 PM
He is right that the GOP needs someway to reach into the inner city and build a strong constituency to split the Democratic power base. Most of the underground hip-hoppers I know are not fans of Obama. The mainstream corporate backed artists are backing Obama but they are mostly usefull idiots. The problem Steele has is that most of these hip-hoppers he is wanting to go after are anti-state, anti-war on terror, anti-drug war, pro-civil liberties and pro-freedom. Many of them like myself are not going to follow the Republican neo-con fascists like Steele and his cohorts at the GOP. We do not like government because everyone of us has been assaulted by police, wrongfully jailed and treated like second class citizens since we were in grade school. We love our guns and will not give them up without a fight to the death. We like our money and will not live as socialist slaves. We control the underground marketplace already and do not need the rest of society to survive. The party of jingoistic fascism is not going to attract the hip-hop generation. If they were smart and got on the Ron Paul bandwagon then they might have a shot at attracting us.

Interesting post. Very encouraging and enlightening for me.

paulitics
02-20-2009, 05:06 PM
He is right that the GOP needs someway to reach into the inner city and build a strong constituency to split the Democratic power base. Most of the underground hip-hoppers I know are not fans of Obama. The mainstream corporate backed artists are backing Obama but they are mostly usefull idiots. The problem Steele has is that most of these hip-hoppers he is wanting to go after are anti-state, anti-war on terror, anti-drug war, pro-civil liberties and pro-freedom. Many of them like myself are not going to follow the Republican neo-con fascists like Steele and his cohorts at the GOP. We do not like government because everyone of us has been assaulted by police, wrongfully jailed and treated like second class citizens since we were in grade school. We love our guns and will not give them up without a fight to the death. We like our money and will not live as socialist slaves. We control the underground marketplace already and do not need the rest of society to survive. The party of jingoistic fascism is not going to attract the hip-hop generation. If they were smart and got on the Ron Paul bandwagon then they might have a shot at attracting us.


I'm not part of the hip hop culture, but I believe everything you are saying here is true. By the way, is the underground growing relative to the corporate Jay-z types?

dannno
02-20-2009, 05:41 PM
By the way, is the underground growing relative to the corporate Jay-z types?

Hmmm.. that's a good question, I hope Nate comes back with an answer.

There was a lot of good popular underground hip hop back around 2000 and 2001 with The Gorillaz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ozb39Bgh9w), Hieroglyphics and Deltron 3030 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wa9vZDOY-Y and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijPE7fe4XTg&feature=related). Then you had Mos Def and Talib Kweli (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77zxCAfVeD8) that were really popular thanks to Dave Chappelle.

Now there is Dead Prez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlduYxE1X2w), Immortal Technique (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdr_2IAJWU), and hopefully some more that Nate might be able to drop on us. Not sure if they are more popular now, I know back around 2000-2003 there were several shows at my University that were very well attended.

BlackTerrel
02-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Get away mah bitch, nigga! Get yo own damn fries!

Really?

carlangaslangas
03-03-2009, 12:19 AM
We also are the most affected by the GOP's idiotic pro-drug war stance. I personally know 13 non-violent drug offenders that are serving federal prison time due to the GOP and their prohibitionist lunacy. 7 of these guys have children who now are living off of welfare because the mothers can't support them alone.

Absolutely. Need a way to save money, and actually raise money too? Ending the prohibition on marijuana would do that really quickly. And would also end the drug-related crime wave that's hitting the southern US States.

Have the guts, like Ron Paul, to defend the ENTIRE constitution, not just the bits and pieces that are left. And talking about lack of balls: Steele is now apologizing to Limbaugh for calling him an entertainer. Come on! What a wimp! And he comes from the projects???

He Who Pawns
03-03-2009, 12:26 AM
It would be extremely difficult to get blacks, because they have been raised to rely on the government rather than themselves. Ending the drug war is the only thing that would really appeal to the majority of blacks. But frankly, blacks are not needed to win.

The other problem is women. They vote disproportionately for big government. They are a more important block to persuade, just based on their sheer numbers.

speciallyblend
03-03-2009, 12:33 AM
He is right that the GOP needs someway to reach into the inner city and build a strong constituency to split the Democratic power base. Most of the underground hip-hoppers I know are not fans of Obama. The mainstream corporate backed artists are backing Obama but they are mostly usefull idiots. The problem Steele has is that most of these hip-hoppers he is wanting to go after are anti-state, anti-war on terror, anti-drug war, pro-civil liberties and pro-freedom. Many of them like myself are not going to follow the Republican neo-con fascists like Steele and his cohorts at the GOP. We do not like government because everyone of us has been assaulted by police, wrongfully jailed and treated like second class citizens since we were in grade school. We love our guns and will not give them up without a fight to the death. We like our money and will not live as socialist slaves. We control the underground marketplace already and do not need the rest of society to survive. The party of jingoistic fascism is not going to attract the hip-hop generation. If they were smart and got on the Ron Paul bandwagon then they might have a shot at attracting us.



yep, the gop has no future unless it is Ron Paul and our message it might take them 2-10 more yrs, but time is on our side! and if the gop fails to understand ron paul or our message then there might not be a gop left in 4 yrs. If my vote has anything to say about it!

Aratus
03-03-2009, 09:42 AM
methinks some shifts in music are seminal. scott joplin is ragtime, louis armstrong is jazz, and if the RNC has moved
past cole porter & al jolson and gene krupa, then if steele is RUN-DMC or very after MC Hammer and/or Vanilla Ice,
then... cool! can you picture JOHN McCAIN a dancin' hip-hop? like grooooove something cooler an' faster than the lindy
or a lively hepcat jitterbug? like i have visions! depression marathon dance-athon i say! GIVE THE G.O.P NOMINATION
to THE LAST IDIOT STANDING ON A HIP-HOP DANCE FLOOR! we KNOW the next contest is a gauntlet run to the max...

Aratus
03-03-2009, 09:47 AM
okay seriously, we know the g.o.p is soul searching and steele is after motown...

Aratus
03-03-2009, 09:49 AM
speciallyblend has a unique elephant that likes to trampoleeeeeeeeeen...

pinkmandy
03-03-2009, 09:54 AM
Lol! Hahahaha! Is he serious?

The GOP is screwed.

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/Dark4ngel33/IDIOT.jpg

reduen
03-03-2009, 10:32 AM
The GOP needs Ron Paul...! Those folks have no credibility at all. Trying to play the conservative card now will not work for them. They already tipped their hand and now there is nothing that they can do accept find someone who has not loss their credibility and ride on their coattails... (Dr. Paul..!)

Romney, Guliana, Palin, Mccain, Huckabee, Thompson, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.., they all look like fools now for how they treated the good Dr. and his message. Every one of them were lying and trying to discredit Dr. Paul and his message when he tried to warn the country… (Now look at who’s laughing!) They will now try and turncoat and say that they were the “lone voice of reason in the wilderness” but it will not work. The proof that they are lying cheating backstabbing vermin is all over the internet and I for one will do my very best to make sure it is never forgotten or hidden!

GOP, accept Dr. Paul and embrace his policies or continue to slip further into the abyss of nothingness! Your choice… :cool:

constituent
03-03-2009, 10:39 AM
depression marathon dance-athon i say! GIVE THE G.O.P NOMINATION
to THE LAST IDIOT STANDING ON A HIP-HOP DANCE FLOOR! we KNOW the next contest is a gauntlet run to the max...

indeed.

Aratus
03-03-2009, 12:11 PM
~~~Rand Paul in 2010!!! = Rand Paul in 2012...if...???...!!!...

~~both Ron Paul & Rand Paul are on a wavelenght, and... hopefully
also if we are too & really KNOWiNG full well the lay of the land up ahead!!!

~otherwise, steele is correct... its only just a hip-hop dance contest and the ol' elephant
done got arrrrrrrthritvs to the max and ain't too greatly in the groove even in a hepcat manner...

we know Ron Paul could run again. it ain't easy, being & doing a presidential sprint which aint too tres short...

however, i did sorta recently talk to Rand Paul at fanueil hall and he ACTUALLY did make a VERY favorable impression on me...

Aratus
03-03-2009, 12:16 PM
hip hopping RUN-DMC
inspired elephants
to top & trump the
dancing hippos in
Fantasia mayhap or
do we ALL now see
Ron or Rand Paul do a
(drumrolls) POTUS RUN!

Aratus
03-03-2009, 12:23 PM
yep, the gop has no future unless it is Ron Paul and our message it might take them 2-10 more yrs, but time is on our side! and if the gop fails to understand ron paul or our message then there might not be a gop left in 4 yrs. If my vote has anything to say about it!


speciallyblend has this curious video clip of this here elephant on what looks like a trapoline...

Aratus
03-03-2009, 12:25 PM
sometimes that there ol' elephant is on something an' we all can debate what... (speciallyblend has this COOL icon! especially concidering the header to THI$ thread!)

Aratus
03-03-2009, 12:26 PM
hip hop...

Theocrat
03-03-2009, 12:57 PM
hip hopping RUN-DMC
inspired elephants
to top & trump the
dancing hippos in
Fantasia mayhap or
do we ALL now see
Ron or Rand Paul do a
(drumrolls) POTUS RUN!

The GOP elephants stampeding on rights,
To set the stage for us like "Friday Night Lights."
They all pissed now 'cause the donkeys have won,
With their token boy from Harvard acting like he's The One.
So the GOP is trying to beat them at their own game,
And they're affirmative in action like it ain't even vain.
Taking it to the streets, the neo-cons keeping it real,
'Cause they found a thuggish-ruggish leader named Michael S. Steele.

Aratus
03-04-2009, 09:07 AM
what theocrat done said... (i looks up)

mconder
03-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Newly elected Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele plans an “off the hook” public relations offensive to attract younger voters, especially blacks and Hispanics, by applying the party's principles to “urban-suburban hip-hop settings.”

Is this the final step to convert the republican party into the democratic party?

Aratus
03-04-2009, 09:18 AM
vanilla*Ice, ~yes~!
AHHHLLL these
bright iiiiiDEARzzz

DirtMcGirt
03-04-2009, 05:47 PM
The repubs have a speaker for almost every demographic now- Steele, Palin, Jindal, Romney, Rush

I think the Steele and Rush recent sound bytes actually help the Rep. Rush is going to have his followers no matter what and if Steele can actually cast him as an "entertainer" he might be able to grab some independents.

Aratus
03-05-2009, 08:52 AM
jay leno was malevolently funny last nite! i wish i had a youtube of the clips with Rush juxpositioned so...