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ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 06:05 PM
Is there a list of all the ridiculous Pork that was included in the stimulus?

I hear people talking about the ridiculous pork in the bill including, endangered mice, elderly nutrition etc.

Where can i find a list of all these things, or can you guys list off some of the worst ones?

dude58677
02-18-2009, 06:26 PM
Is there a list of all the ridiculous Pork that was included in the stimulus?

I hear people talking about the ridiculous pork in the bill including, endangered mice, elderly nutrition etc.

Where can i find a list of all these things, or can you guys list off some of the worst ones?

A $787 billion stimulus is enough to be against it without even reading it.

nate895
02-18-2009, 06:30 PM
It's all pork (AKA "internal improvements") if it isn't "tax relief."


A $787 billion stimulus is enough to be against it without even reading it.

A $.01 "stimulus" is enough to be against it from my POV.

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 06:37 PM
It's all pork (AKA "internal improvements") if it isn't "tax relief."



A $.01 "stimulus" is enough to be against it from my POV.

Yea, i hear ya but, i want a list of some of the more ridiculous things that any body can realize has nothing to do with 'Economic Stimulus'...


i need them for a video :cool:

dude58677
02-18-2009, 06:40 PM
It's all pork (AKA "internal improvements") if it isn't "tax relief."



A $.01 "stimulus" is enough to be against it from my POV.

Yep!

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 06:48 PM
no... don't preach to the choir and say 'The Stimulus is Bad', I need a LIST OF PORK!!!


:p


Can anyone help me out?

I obviously agree that the bailout is ridiculous and full of pork.. i'm interested in finding out some more of the ridiculous wastes of money, like those damn mice in cali :cool:

SLSteven
02-18-2009, 06:50 PM
The list would be over 1000 pages.

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 06:52 PM
The list would be over 1000 pages.

Well... where can i find it?

dude58677
02-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Well... where can i find it?

http://www.findlaw.com


There is everything on here that relates to law such as the US Code, etc.

ihsv
02-18-2009, 06:55 PM
Pork?

What's wrong with pork? :D

dude58677
02-18-2009, 06:57 PM
Pork?

What's wrong with pork? :D

It can lead to a heart attack.

Danke
02-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Pork?

What's wrong with pork? :D

Yeah, and what is wrong with a pack of cigarettes?

If I promise to eat that pig, with you go back to cigarettes?

ihsv
02-18-2009, 06:59 PM
Yeah, and what is wrong with a pack of cigarettes?

If I promise to eat that pig, with you go back to cigarettes?

Nope. I like the pig. And I smoke, too :D

dude58677
02-18-2009, 07:04 PM
Here is another link:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/

Roxi
02-18-2009, 07:11 PM
good lord can't anyone just name a few things?



heres a few that i have found... i would like to have a list myself to print out and put on the window at work... ill do some looking and post what i find here but a little help would be nice :)



NBC broke down some of the bigger numbers in the bill, for example: $275 billion in tax relief , $90 billion for infrastructure, $79 billion for school funding, etc. Sounds good, right? But in the fine print, there's a lot of proposed spending that may raise a few eyebrows. In an interview with President Barack Obama, CBS' Katie Couric called him on some of the more unusual proposals:

- $6.2 billion for home weatherization

- $50 million for port modernization and water and wastewater infrastructure needs in Guam

-$100 million for children to learn green construction

Obama defended the weatherization spending by emphasizing the long-term effects:

"We're going to weatherize homes, that immediately puts people back to work and we're going to train people who are out of work, including young people , to do the weatherization. As a consequence of weatherization, our energy bills go down and we reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What would be a more effective stimulus package than that?"

Fair enough. But what about the $800 million for Amtrak? Or the $150 million for the Smithsonian Institute? And there's more: So much more, in fact, that the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, has set up a website that allows users to comb through the more than 900-page-long bill. You decide: Economic stimulus or wasteful spending?

- $198 million for U.S. military benefits for Filipinos who fought for the U.S. during WWII

- $75 million for "smoking cessation activities"

- $87 million for the "design of a new polar icebreaker"

- $335 million for HIV/STD screening

- $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees

Whole story here...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl238

Roxi
02-18-2009, 07:17 PM
also found this graph (which i think was posted before here)

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/01/15/business/economy/stimpackage.jpg

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 07:20 PM
Roxic... you gave me more than what i wanted... You rock :cool:

Roxi
02-18-2009, 07:21 PM
and heres the GOP's list:


• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wild land fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.




edit: also found this
"a proposed $20 million minor league baseball museum in Durham, North Carolina;
$6.1 million for corporate jet hangars at the Fayetteville, Arkansas, airport;
$20 million for renovations at the Philadelphia Zoo;
$1.5 million program to reduce prostitution in Dayton, Ohio."





edit: and this list (may be some duplicates)
$544 billion in new spending

$125 billion for public education including $20 billion for school renovations and $79 billion to avoid education related layoffs

$87 billion for Medicaid

$30 billion goes to road projects

$27 billion to continue unemployment insurance benefits

$20 billion for food stamps

$8 billion for renewable energies

$7 billion for modernizing federal buildings

$6 billion for mass transit

$5 billion for for the construction and repair of public housing

$4 billion for community activist programs such as ACORN

$2 billion for child care subsidies

$650 million for coupons for digital TV conversions

$400 million for global warming research

$335 million for STD prevention

$50 million for National Endowment of the Arts

* Republicans pushed the Democrats into dropping money for family planning and restoration of the National Mall
* The WSJ estimates that just 12% of the package could be considered a growth stimulus

$275 billion in new tax cuts

$145 billion: Tax cuts for 95% of working Americans, $500 for individuals, $1000 for couples and small business for 2 years

$23 billion: $1000 per child tax credit

$20 billion for company equipment write offs

$16 billion in “green” tax credits

$10 billion: $2500 credit for college

$6.9 billion for homeowner tax credits

• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.

• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.

• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).

• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.

• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
Don't Miss

* GOP senators draft stimulus alternative

• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."

• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.

• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.

• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.

• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.

• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.

• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.

• $500 million for state and local fire stations.

• $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.

• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.

• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.

• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.

• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.

• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.

• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.

• $850 million for Amtrak.

• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.

• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.

• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.

• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installation








and heres the whole bill : hthttp://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1:

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 07:23 PM
Perfect!

Exactly what i need :cheers:

tangent4ronpaul
02-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Summer Jazz concert program in DC.

-t

Danke
02-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Reminds me of the parade they have in St. Paul called the Grand Old Day Parade. Check out this years theme;

All participants (floats, walkers, bands, etc.) must incorporate the parade theme – IT’S GRAND BEING GREEN - in their music, float design and/or costumes. Use your imagination: use recyclable materials to build your float, have recycled or re-used products on your float, walk or bike instead of riding, find costumes at a second hand store, emphasize your organization’s environmentally friendly efforts – use your creativity! All floats or units are encouraged to have an entertaining and crowd pleasing float.

tropicangela
02-18-2009, 11:00 PM
He told reporters at his transition office that his package will set a "new higher standard of accountability, transparency and oversight. We are going to ban all earmarks, the process by which individual members insert projects without review." http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/1357260.html

CNN: Pelosi to Wolf Blitzer: I promise no pork in the stimulus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaDtkG6afBc

slacker921
02-18-2009, 11:12 PM
. . Stimulus Watch (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/) - and you get the fun of voting on stuff (not that they're going to listen to you)

Roxi
02-19-2009, 12:55 AM
Roxic... you gave me more than what i wanted... You rock :cool:


thanks! have fun making the vid! can't wait to see it.