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Nate K
02-18-2009, 10:04 AM
I only caught the latter half of this but dear god it was hilarious - this moron called in trying to sound intellectual and Beck used his own retarded logic against him.

Did anyone else hear this?

I'll watch for it on youtube and post it.

ItsTime
02-18-2009, 10:09 AM
what time is the show on? I think I might start to listen to it on the net.

Nate K
02-18-2009, 10:11 AM
what time is the show on? I think I might start to listen to it on the net.

10am-noon Eastern.

Beck is so great on tv and radio - focuses on the economy always and gives our side of the story.

ItsTime
02-18-2009, 10:12 AM
thanks :)

ItsTime
02-18-2009, 10:13 AM
Wait I have to pay to listen to his show online? Is there a free stream that Im missing?

Nate K
02-18-2009, 10:17 AM
Wait I have to pay to listen to his show online? Is there a free stream that Im missing?

most local stations have sites that air it for free..

Mine for instance.. http://wpgb.com/main.html

Click on listen live

ItsTime
02-18-2009, 10:22 AM
most local stations have sites that air it for free..

Mine for instance.. http://wpgb.com/main.html

Click on listen live

Thanks just bookmarked it

Chase
02-18-2009, 10:24 AM
10am-noon Eastern.

Beck is so great on tv and radio - focuses on the economy always and gives our side of the story.

I was stunned by his TV program the other day... he actually compared the drug war to prohibition when discussing Mexico with John Bolton and Karl Rove. You could see both of them shift uncomfortably when Beck said that...

ItsTime
02-18-2009, 10:30 AM
I was stunned by his TV program the other day... he actually compared the drug war to prohibition when discussing Mexico with John Bolton and Karl Rove. You could see both of them shift uncomfortably when Beck said that...

And he had the guy from the Ayn Rand institute as a guest. Im still waiting for the real reasons Beck is leaning this way.

cska80
02-18-2009, 10:30 AM
I heard it. It was great.

brandon
02-18-2009, 10:46 AM
Anyone hear his opening monologue today?

It was fantastic. It almost sounded like an Adam Kokesh speech. It's hard to believe this is the guy that called Ron Paul supporters "terrorists" a year ago.

Anwar_S
02-18-2009, 10:55 AM
I'd love to see this if anyone can upload it :)

JasonC
02-18-2009, 11:13 AM
It is on his website, but you have to be a subscriber($$) to listen to the audio archives.

rockandrollsouls
02-18-2009, 11:19 AM
Anyone hear his opening monologue today?

It was fantastic. It almost sounded like an Adam Kokesh speech. It's hard to believe this is the guy that called Ron Paul supporters "terrorists" a year ago.

Well, in all honesty some of the people we've had work with us can be a little scary :D

LibertyEagle
02-18-2009, 11:23 AM
Beck is doing a pretty good job, NOW, and I'm very glad he's doing it. He seems to be advancing a great deal of Ron's message and that's a good thing. That said, I don't trust him farther than I can spit.

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 11:51 AM
hopefully this ends up on youtube.

Sounds awesome!

Elwar
02-18-2009, 12:25 PM
Republicans will easily sound anti-government when Democrats are in control.

The true test is whether they felt the same when Republicans were in control.

Elwar
02-18-2009, 01:32 PM
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21628/

GLENN: I want to start right out of the chute with John in Cincinnati who is a little angry. He, I believe he's going to call me a hate monger. I'm not sure. Hello, John, welcome.


CALLER: No, I'm not calling you a hate monger, Glenn.


GLENN: All right.


CALLER: But you ran against Margaret Sanger and H. G. Wells and eugenicists, you're the biggest eugenicist or Darwinist there is, talking about people should be fired if they can't do this or that. It's survival of the fittest with you. What happens to these people? Do they dissolve, do they starve to death? What happens to their children?


GLENN: Well, let's be -- it's amazing that I go against H. G. Wells. Here's a man who's obviously informed on H. G. Wells. John, congratulations. Welcome. Welcome. It's good to have a Fabian Society member on the air.


CALLER: I'm not a member of the Fabian Society. I voted for Ronald Reagan, I voted for George Bush, Sr., I voted for McCain, I voted for Bush.


GLENN: Well, you've got one guy you voted that was the right vote.


CALLER: Yes, I did. You are right. He was the right man at that time.


GLENN: Ronald Reagan.


CALLER: Yes.


GLENN: Ronald Reagan, that was pretty much it. The rest of them have been giant mistakes, haven't they? John, help me out on this. You say that I'm a eugenicist and these people are just going to dissolve. Instead of just using all the hyperbole, let's use a real example. Where do you work, John? You don't have to give the name of the company. What do you do?


CALLER: I'm a cashier.


GLENN: You are a cashier at, what, a grocery store?


CALLER: A gift shop.


GLENN: A gift shop? Okay. So let's say the gift shop is now going to go through tough times. Let's go way out on a limb and say that people are going to start having a hard time and not going to go out and buy stuff at the gift shop, okay?


CALLER: All right.


GLENN: As much as they have been. And you've got 10 employees there, you're all there, and the owner comes and looks at the situation and says, "Okay, we've got 50% less in sales than we had last year. So I've got a choice now. I can lay off and possibly rehire if things turn around, I can lay off the worst workers, the least profitable workers, I can call and I can cancel different lines that are the least profitable to us, or I can do nothing, keep everybody employed and then probably in six months go out of business and then everybody is starving."


CALLER: Well, that's something --


GLENN: Which one would you do, John?


CALLER: That's not the only option, Glenn.


GLENN: What are the other options?


CALLER: Well, they can reduce hours for everyone and keep everyone employed.


GLENN: So everybody could struggle together. Okay, that is an option.


CALLER: Yes.


GLENN: Yeah. But let's just say, let's just say the gift shop is at California, because I'm assuming that's why you're calling.


CALLER: Well, I'm not real -- I don't live in California. I'm not real familiar with the situation in California.


GLENN: Yeah, but that's why I was -- that's what I was talking about when I was talking about this situation. So that's what prompted this phone call. Where have I asked -- where have I told people they should be laid off other than companies like Chrysler that is failing?


CALLER: Exactly, yes. Not laid off. Fired. There's a difference.


GLENN: Yeah. Well, if they're failing, yes, they should be fired. And then it goes all the way to the CEO. Oh, what is his poor children going to do? If you're failing, John, yes, you're fired. If you suck at your job, you're fired.


CALLER: And then what happens to them, Glenn?


GLENN: Then you get better at the job and you go find another job. See, John, you can't tell me that you actually voted for Ronald Reagan because if you did, it was a giant mistake.


CALLER: (Inaudible).


GLENN: It was a giant mistake then for you, John, because you believe in socialism. Ronald Reagan did not.


CALLER: He was the -- I don't believe -- I don't have an ideology. I believe in people for the time. He was the right man at the right time.


GLENN: Okay. So who's the right man at the right time now? Karl Marx?


CALLER: No, I believe that the choices we had that John McCain of the choices we had.


GLENN: Okay, so Karl Marx Lite.


CALLER: No, if I had other choices, I --


GLENN: Let's stop -- John, let's stop with your aversion to using the word that you're a socialist now, that now you believe that socialism is a good thing. Admit it and then we can have a real conversation.


CALLER: I believe that society comes together to help each other. It is a --


GLENN: That's called charity. Now, do you believe in charity? Because what happens to those people that have left off of the card shop or GM or whatever? They can go to their churches and they can get charity. They can go to their families and get charity. They can go find another job and get charity, or they can go to the government and get socialism. So which are you for?


CALLER: Should they have to beg for their existence, Glenn?


GLENN: No, sir. Charity is not begging. Charity is charity. Socialism is stealing.


CALLER: It's stealing from the selfish.


GLENN: Stealing from the selfish, hmmm. You voted for Ronald Reagan.


CALLER: Three times.


GLENN: That's amazing to me.


CALLER: Three times.


GLENN: You should go back and read Ronald Reagan's words. So he's stealing from -- may I ask, John, what percentage of your income do you give to charity?


CALLER: I give -- I tithe 10% to my church.


GLENN: 10% to your church. So you're a 10% person. Good for you. Would you consider me greedy, sir?


CALLER: I don't -- I would --


GLENN: Well, I want people to be fired. I don't want socialism. You would be taking my money, John, from me. You are taking my money from me. So I must be greedy. Am I greedy, sir?


CALLER: Glenn, if society wishes to do that, that is the right of the society to do that.


GLENN: So -- wow. America, are you hearing this? If society, if the collective decides, then the collective can destroy the individual for the collective.


CALLER: You talk about the individual. You like to divide people into individuals, Glenn, but then you suck them back up into your group.


GLENN: I am for the individual. I have no group, sir. I have no group except maybe the group that believes in the individual like our founding fathers did. So far I haven't found a group that actually believes what I believe. I have found libertarians, but they don't really have a group because in that group there are atheists and God-fearing people, there are people that are -- you know, want to live off, you know, the power of the sun and people who want to burn coal. There's just individuals in that group. So tell me, sir, what my group is, John.


CALLER: The group who agrees with you, sir.


GLENN: You're a moron. The collective -- let me ask you this, John. Can the collective -- if the collective decides to do something, then they can do anything against the individual, right? Because if the collective decides to destroy me because I have more money, then they can do that, right?


CALLER: I don't think that would happen in a society of law.


GLENN: Okay. John, let's just, let's just go down with the theory that you yourself said could be done. What law is there, John, if the collective decides to do it? You are telling me that you can take money from the greedy. You and the collective get to decide who's greedy.


By the way, John, I give 20% of my salary. So am I greedy or are we both just doesn't really matter, we each get to choose what we do with our income? Which one is it? So if the collective gets to decide who's greedy and who they can take money from, which is what your theory is, the individual doesn't matter, it is the collective -- that's your theory, right? That's your theory, right, John?


CALLER: Society determines, yes.


GLENN: Society determines. Great. So then if society determines that slavery is okay, is it okay?


CALLER: From an individual standpoint, no.


GLENN: No, no, no, we're talking about society making the decision. The individual doesn't matter. It's the collective, what's good for all of society. If society agrees that slavery is okay, if the collective says that, then it's okay, right?


CALLER: No, that's not all right.


GLENN: Why isn't that one all right?


CALLER: It's immoral.


GLENN: Why is it immoral? Who decides what's immoral?


CALLER: I do.


GLENN: The individual decides what's immoral?


CALLER: I can decide that but I cannot expect society to abide by my own personal morals.


GLENN: Okay. So if you then -- hang on. I just want to make sure. If you then decide it's immoral but the collective says it's not, should you go along with slavery?


CALLER: No.


GLENN: No. What then should you do?


CALLER: I should fight against it.


GLENN: You should fight against it. Alone, or do you think maybe you might find others that think that slavery is immoral?


CALLER: Well, the whole group, any group that decides that it's immoral would fight against it collectively.


GLENN: Wow. So in other words, what you'd do is you'd fight against slavery and then you'd just suck everybody up into a group that agrees with you?


CALLER: Yes.


GLENN: Exactly what you just accused me of doing and saying it was a bad thing.


CALLER: That's right.


GLENN: All right then. I think we're done here, John. I think we're done. But thank you for calling. It's been enlightening.

Feenix566
02-18-2009, 01:37 PM
I was stunned by his TV program the other day... he actually compared the drug war to prohibition when discussing Mexico with John Bolton and Karl Rove. You could see both of them shift uncomfortably when Beck said that...

That's because I wrote Beck an email explaining that the war on drugs is just like prohibition, and it's the reason the Mexican government is on the brink of collapse. I'm glad to hear he read it and passed along the information :)

dr. hfn
02-18-2009, 01:42 PM
that was brilliant!!!! Go Glenn!!!

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 02:01 PM
hahaha, wholy crap..


He truly did destroy him.

What a fool...

ChaosControl
02-18-2009, 02:37 PM
I love that. Nothing more fun than using their own "logic", if you can call it that, against them. :)

rockandrollsouls
02-18-2009, 03:46 PM
I think we should congratulate Glenn on that one....he really did nail it.

travismofo
02-18-2009, 03:51 PM
He has a socialist on TV now. Wonder if it's the same guy...

RevolutionSD
02-18-2009, 03:58 PM
I only caught the latter half of this but dear god it was hilarious - this moron called in trying to sound intellectual and Beck used his own retarded logic against him.

Did anyone else hear this?

I'll watch for it on youtube and post it.

But Beck is a war lover. He's NOT a libertarian. His version of government is neoconism.

RevolutionSD
02-18-2009, 04:00 PM
I was stunned by his TV program the other day... he actually compared the drug war to prohibition when discussing Mexico with John Bolton and Karl Rove. You could see both of them shift uncomfortably when Beck said that...

Doesn't like the drug war but loves the Iraq war?
Beck is really confused.

1000-points-of-fright
02-18-2009, 04:01 PM
Beck just got owned by a socialist on his own show. The guy said that the most socialist of the candidates was Palin because as governor she took money from the oil companies and redistributed it to the people.

Beck just made faces.

Smoke the Liberty Tree
02-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Beck just got owned by a socialist on his own show. The guy said that the most socialist of the candidates was Palin because as governor she took money from the oil companies and redistributed it to the people.

Beck just made faces.

Thank god im not the only one who noticed this. I watched the entire interview and i did not hear any intellectual argument come from his mouth. I for one despise socialism, but the man did make a good point about sarah palin being the most socialist candidate this election cycle. Beck is just banking on the ultra right wing who watch FOX news to use there close minded opinions to disregard the socialists arguments by simply ignoring the facts. I find it hard to listen to any of Glenn Becks opinions (not facts).

To make my self clear though: I DESPISE SOCIALISM. But i am still open minded and will hear the arguments of the people i so despise. Shame on Beck for not being able to defend his point of view.

axiomata
02-18-2009, 04:18 PM
Beck just got owned by a socialist on his own show. The guy said that the most socialist of the candidates was Palin because as governor she took money from the oil companies and redistributed it to the people.

Beck just made faces.
I think he was just counting on his viewers dismissing anything the socialist said outright. While I'm sure that some of his old neo-con hanger-ons did just that, he has to realize that people are questioning everything these days, and that is a good thing.

He should have asked the socialist how he thinks a capitalist would handle a huge supply of a natural resource under state owned property.

Then he would correct him and say ideally there would be no state owned property, and the owner could do with it as he wished. And since the oil in Alaska is under state-owned property, there is no pure free market solution available, and giving some of the revenue to the people of the state makes more sense than giving it to the state, or all to a corporation.

travismofo
02-18-2009, 04:19 PM
The problem with Beck and other conservatives and beltway libertarians is they don't ask the key question, which Lew Rockwell points out.

The key question being "When is it acceptable to use violence against the innocent?". The answer is never.

Socialism is violence. Democracy is violence. Government is violence. Period

Ex Post Facto
02-18-2009, 05:00 PM
glenn: I am for the individual. I have no group, sir. I have no group except maybe the group that believes in the individual like our founding fathers did. So far i haven't found a group that actually believes what i believe. i have found libertarians, but they don't really have a group because in that group there are atheists and god-fearing people, there are people that are -- you know, want to live off, you know, the power of the sun and people who want to burn coal. There's just individuals in that group. So tell me, sir, what my group is, john.

wow!!!

NYgs23
02-18-2009, 07:38 PM
We just have to be careful that it's the real thing and not the Establishment trying to co-opt us. Always cleave to principle regardless of who's doing the talking.

NYgs23
02-18-2009, 07:49 PM
I do find it interesting that Beck name-dropped the Fabian Society and H G Wells. He must be doing quite a bit of reading.

user
02-18-2009, 08:01 PM
It's not like everybody who calls talk radio knows exactly what they're talking about.

1000-points-of-fright
02-18-2009, 09:01 PM
I do find it interesting that Beck name-dropped the Fabian Society and H G Wells. He must be doing quite a bit of reading.

I've seen Mises, the Mises Institute and the Austrian School of economics mentioned several times on his show and each time each he does that self mocking "Oh yeah, him. Of course everyone knows him" routine.

You'd think by now he would have read up on that subject.

Danke
02-18-2009, 09:03 PM
Is requiring a company to pay the State a fee for taking out some of its resources, such as oil, really socialist?

mrchubbs
02-18-2009, 09:26 PM
If you want to hear the audio of the call and then Beck's rant following the call it is here:

(audio widget is below the video)

http://libertymaven.com/2009/02/18/glenn-beck-fighting-socialism-one-caller-at-a-time/4413/


Enjoy

Young Paleocon
02-18-2009, 09:29 PM
Is requiring a company to pay the State a fee for taking out some of its resources, such as oil, really socialist?

With the profits she then mails checks to Alaskans.

Danke
02-18-2009, 09:32 PM
With the profits she then mails checks to Alaskans.

Is that Socialist, do some of the profits of natural resources belong to the State (the people that live on the land?) Aren't property rights a function of the State?

nbruno322
02-18-2009, 10:15 PM
I believe this is what you are looking for:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4730447/The_Glenn_Beck_Show_18-Feb-09_CF_mp3

Glenn's show is updated daily on the bay.

ClayTrainor
02-18-2009, 10:20 PM
If you want to hear the audio of the call and then Beck's rant following the call it is here:

(audio widget is below the video)

http://libertymaven.com/2009/02/18/glenn-beck-fighting-socialism-one-caller-at-a-time/4413/


Enjoy

Cheers!!!!

Gin
02-19-2009, 05:55 AM
You can find a feed by going to www.talkstreamlive.com

I listen to the Philly Feed He's on 9am - 12pm est

http://player.play.it/player/player.html?id=81&onestat=wpht-am

He is a riot on his radio show... much more open then he is on FOX...



Wait I have to pay to listen to his show online? Is there a free stream that Im missing?

goldenequity
02-19-2009, 08:35 AM
Here ya go...
download
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/GlennBeck021909.mp3
stream
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/GlennBeck021909.m3u
Cheers! :)