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Texan4Life
02-16-2009, 09:44 PM
I saw this on TV last week and though it was pretty good.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/lookingforlincoln/featured/watch-looking-for-lincoln/290/

It starts out like any other Lincoln lover documentary but then it really starts to show who the real Lincoln was. including his suspension of habeas corpus, and why he really issued the emancipation proclamation.

And then they went to the sons of confederate veterans meeting and asked people what they thought about Lincoln (lol). But they backed up why they disliked him because of the "lost history" of the bad side of Lincoln.

anyway if you haven't heard the "other side" of Lincolns story it is a very good watch...

Reason
02-17-2009, 05:38 AM
Thank You!

misterx
02-17-2009, 10:21 AM
I would say it's good that they're exposing the truth, but it's just a continuation of the tearing down of our idols. They would like to replace the myth of Lincoln with the myth of someone like Obama. Just like in the Soviet Union, we need new heroes that personify our new, socialist, egalitarian state. Hence replacing the commemoration of Washington's birthday with that of MLK.

Soft Spoken Storm
02-17-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm glad to see someone trying to spread the truth about Lincoln. We don't need false heroes. Lincoln was a monster. Yet historians interviewed by CSPAN called him the "best" president ever. People need to learn the truth, or else they will continue to worship the worst among us and that will lead to others believing that what the people really want is a dictator who will trample on states' rights, ignore the Constitution, tear the country apart, and then illegally invade another country to take it over (which, if you know your history, is what happened with the war between the USA and CSA... it was not a rebellion or a civil war, it was a war between two nations).

Aratus
02-17-2009, 10:51 AM
between the family at the convention, the black professor in the 1970s who upon READING the
lincoln/douglas debates who went into a shocked upset mood over how supremacist lincoln's stance
was, let alone the cautious politically correct doris kearns goodwin conciliatory quips that enabled
the interviewer to continue on with a straight face, even into young honest abe's early love life,
(we can be thankful he did not have a mistress or two whilst being our potus) the show had
its moments. the lionizing is up there with the parson weems cherry tree incident george washington.
simon shama on a similar theme has this PBS program about the intrepid sierra leone colony
and what happened when the british liberated the southern slaves who ran away from their
patriot masters. some of the loyalist ex-slaves were up in frigidly cold nova scotia by 1790!!!
yes, there are other postings here about african-americans SERVING as confederate soldiers.
admittedly more african-americans were in union blues then. the show had its moments...

Aratus
02-17-2009, 10:54 AM
wilson, lincoln and fdr were wartime presidents.
wilson has the palmer raids. lincoln suspends
habeas corpus and fdr has internment camps...

Aratus
02-17-2009, 10:56 AM
a recent historians list placed james buchanan at the very bottom of their list.
we have gone down this pathway before. lincoln, buchanan or andy johnson?

Aratus
02-17-2009, 11:06 AM
indeed after antietum, that was almost totally pyrrhic for the north, its the rebellious
slaveowners in dixie who were directly under the emancipation proclamation,
not they who be loyal to the union in the border states. ---gist of discussion...
few slaves were directly freed. ---insted its akin to the amistad case or even a
decision in a supreme court case that overturns 'dred scott' in that lincoln was
setting into motion a goodly portion of the legal apparatus that seems to have
been the "restoration" as the presidential reconstruction was dubbed by his
immediate successor. ---the legal apparatus u.s grant had under his watch is after
the trial of andrew johnson in 1868, and if one takes any nasty conspiracy theory out of
that procedings... if you read everything carefully, we see that andrew johnson got
gloriously impeached for having NATIONAL UNION political "high white horse" stances
LIKE and AKIN to those of abe lincoln's in 1858 when he debated stephen o. douglas...

Aratus
02-17-2009, 11:09 AM
if we are not terribly "tin foil hat" and are getting past poor mary surratt and her spy of a son, we
see that andrew johnson was impeached for AGREEING with honest abe's speeches most literally...
keep in mind andrew johnson often did not see eye to eye with jefferson davis, unlike what the older
generation was told in dixie. he remained in d.c loyally BECAUSE he agreed with honest abe's rhetoric...

Philmanoman
02-17-2009, 11:11 AM
hey thanks...watching now.
he says Lincoln needs some afrosheen when theyre in the lincoln library... lol.

Afro-Sheen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DrCtwVyW7c&feature=related)



(holy shit i made a link and it worked)...first time ive tried that...i get excited easily...

Aratus
02-17-2009, 11:22 AM
LBJ once romanced doris kearns goodwin, you do know this... i say euphemistically