pelosi on vacation and going to meet pope

[smithtg]

We all know why the "vote" had to happen on friday because Nancy didnt want to cancel her Italy trip; the article says she is actually 'working' while over there. When did Italy become such a world power?

The article says she is meeting the pope. I bet the Benedict may have some choice words for her considering some of her dumb public statements that are contrary to the Catholic faith (re: abortion etc etc)

http://www.ansa.it/site/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2009-02-16_116339096.html


Rome, February 16 - US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi got a surprise gift from Chamber of Deputies Speaker Gianfranco Fini on her visit to the Italian lower house: the birth certificates of her grandparents.

''We know how proud you are of your Italian roots,'' said Fini as he handed over the certificates of Pelosi's Abruzzo-born grandfather and her Liguria-born grandmother. ''Oh, Mamma Mia, I wasn't expecting this, it's such a great thrill,'' replied a teary-eyed Pelosi. Pelosi paternal grandfather, Tommaso Fedele D'Alessandro, was born on 11 September 1868 in Montenerodomo near Chieti, Abruzzo.

Her grandmother, Maria Petronilla Foppiani, was born in Rovegno near Genovese in 1894. Fini also gave Pelosi a photo of Montenerodomo in her grandfather's time and a letter from the mayor of Rovegno inviting her to visit her grandmother's birthplace.

Pelosi, the first woman speaker of the US lower house, arrived in Italy Saturday for a six-day visit.

On Sunday she visited museums in Florence and laid a wreath at an Anglo-American war cemetery outside the city.

On Monday, before seeing Fini, she met President Giorgio Napolitano.

She will hold a conference Monday afternoon at the Chamber of Deputies entitled Strong Allies for A Secure Future.

On Tuesday Pelosi will have lunch with Premier Silvio Berlusconi and later meet Foreign Minister Franco Frattini and Defence Minister Ignazio La Russa.

The global financial crisis, international security, collaboration between Rome and Washington and the priorities of Italy's presidency of the Group of Eight will top the agenda.

On Wednesday Pelosi is expected to have an audience with Pope Benedict XVI, before travelling to Naples where on Thursday she will meet US servicemen stationed in the area.

[bander87]

Lovely.

[RideTheDirt]

I hope she chokes.

[Truth Warrior]

Sorry Nancy, the Pope won't be able to save you from your well earned fate.<IMHO>

[ihsv]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/catholickaren/PopeBushfunny.jpg

Reminded me of this :)

[pinkmandy]

I hope she chokes.

:D

[hillbilly123069]

Can she step on Holy ground without getting burned?

[smithtg]

Pelosi, Pope Have No Meeting of the Minds
It would appear from the two statements issued by the Vatican and the speaker's office that Nancy Pelosi and Pope Benedict did not share the same views during her audience with the pontiff.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/


U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican Wednesday morning, but may not have had a meeting of the minds if the two statements from their offices are any indication.

No journalists were at the 15-minute encounter and the Vatican and the speaker's offices have not released any photos. However, according to their statements it appears the pope and the politician attended two different get-togethers.

TOO FUNNY


"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for
the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development," the Vatican wrote, having released the statement moments before the two met.

Several hours later, Pelosi's office gave her take on the tete-a-tete.

"It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with his Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI today," Pelosi said in a statement released hours after the meeting. "In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church's leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father's dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel. I was proud to show his Holiness a photograph of my family's papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren."

The pontiff has a long history of urging Catholic politicians to toe the line on abortion, and has said that those who don't shouldn't take communion. Pelosi supports abortion rights and says she's never been denied communion at her church in San Francisco.

In 2002, the Vatican issued a doctrinal note on "The Participation of Catholics in Political Life," which states rather succinctly that politicians who profess to be Catholic have a "grave and clear obligation" to oppose any law that attacks human life.

That note was approved by John Paul II but signed by none other than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He's now the pope.

The speaker does not share that belief, and even got into a verbal slugfest with American bishops last August after her statements on a news program about the Church's view of when life begins.

"I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months, we don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose," she said at the time on NBC's "Meet the Press."

She then added that the Church has only held the view for 50 years or so that life begins at conception. The remarks earned her widespread corrections by Catholic clerics.

FOX News' Greg Burke contributed to this report.

[ConvertedRepublican]

Pelosi, Pope Have No Meeting of the Minds
It would appear from the two statements issued by the Vatican and the speaker's office that Nancy Pelosi and Pope Benedict did not share the same views during her audience with the pontiff.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/


U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican Wednesday morning, but may not have had a meeting of the minds if the two statements from their offices are any indication.

No journalists were at the 15-minute encounter and the Vatican and the speaker's offices have not released any photos. However, according to their statements it appears the pope and the politician attended two different get-togethers.

TOO FUNNY


"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for
the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development," the Vatican wrote, having released the statement moments before the two met.

Several hours later, Pelosi's office gave her take on the tete-a-tete.

"It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with his Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI today," Pelosi said in a statement released hours after the meeting. "In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church's leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father's dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel. I was proud to show his Holiness a photograph of my family's papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren."

The pontiff has a long history of urging Catholic politicians to toe the line on abortion, and has said that those who don't shouldn't take communion. Pelosi supports abortion rights and says she's never been denied communion at her church in San Francisco.

In 2002, the Vatican issued a doctrinal note on "The Participation of Catholics in Political Life," which states rather succinctly that politicians who profess to be Catholic have a "grave and clear obligation" to oppose any law that attacks human life.

That note was approved by John Paul II but signed by none other than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He's now the pope.

The speaker does not share that belief, and even got into a verbal slugfest with American bishops last August after her statements on a news program about the Church's view of when life begins.

"I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months, we don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose," she said at the time on NBC's "Meet the Press."

She then added that the Church has only held the view for 50 years or so that life begins at conception. The remarks earned her widespread corrections by Catholic clerics.
FOX News' Greg Burke contributed to this report.

She backed down quickly when Catholics around the country came up with reems of evidence dating back to the first century that the Catholic Church has ALWAYS held this position. The 'Didiche', an extra-Biblical work dating back to the time of Paul and the 'epistile of Barnabas' are very specific about abortion, and thats just for starters. I highly doubt she has ever read Augustine.
Unfortunetly, the brainless, liberal, nominal Catholic will simply take her at her word.

[paulitics]

Just my opinon, but the pope should not be involved in politics.

[BlackTerrel]

What right does the Pope have to tell a politician how she should view abortion? I don't recall much of Jesus talking about abortion.

[nate895]

What right does the Pope have to tell a politician how she should view abortion? I don't recall much of Jesus talking about abortion.

As the head of a private, religious, institution he has the right to do speak his mind and scorn anyone for doing anything.

[penguin]

Crap, I had hoped she went there for an exorcism. I guess evil spirits need to be grown by truly evil people.

[BlackTerrel]

As the head of a private, religious, institution he has the right to do speak his mind and scorn anyone for doing anything.

He has the right to speak his opinion like anyone else, but as someone whose not Catholic I don't want him instructing government how they should vote.

For the record I disagree with him on abortion and agree with him on homosexuality. But even if I agreed with him on both I would hold the same view.

[nate895]

He has the right to speak his opinion like anyone else, but as someone whose not Catholic I don't want him instructing government how they should vote.

For the record I disagree with him on abortion and agree with him on homosexuality. But even if I agreed with him on both I would hold the same view.

So, he shouldn't be able to excommunicate people for not following church doctrine? He should be able to do that. It is a core principle of the Catholic Church to be pro-life, and he should has the right to hold politicians to that belief.

[smithtg]

He has the right to speak his opinion like anyone else, but as someone whose not Catholic I don't want him instructing government how they should vote.

For the record I disagree with him on abortion and agree with him on homosexuality. But even if I agreed with him on both I would hold the same view.

why are people hardwired to hate children?

maybe its just when you believe a baby becomes a baby, but maybe not

[BlackTerrel]

why are people hardwired to hate children?

maybe its just when you believe a baby becomes a baby, but maybe not

I don't think either side of this issue hates children. Anyway it's an issue I'd rather not get into - people have already made their minds up.

[ihsv]

What right does the Pope have to tell a politician how she should view abortion? I don't recall much of Jesus talking about abortion.

Pelosi claims to be Catholic. As a(n alleged) Catholic, she is subject to the teachings of the Church regarding doctrine and morality. The Pope has every right to remind Catholics what the Catholic teaching on abortion is, and if Pelosi doesn't like it, she's free to leave. But for her to say she's Catholic, and for people to wonder what right the Pope has to tell Catholics what to believe, shows a severe disconnect.

If she disagrees, she can go become Methodist or an Atheist and vote for abortion all day long and not be two-faced about it.

[akihabro]

I hope someone ejaculates in her lasagna. Take a religious/family roots trip when bills aren't being rushed thru congress and spend your own damn money.

[HOLLYWOOD]

He has the right to speak his opinion like anyone else, but as someone whose not Catholic I don't want him instructing government how they should vote.

Don't get your panties in a bunch... Nancy Pelosi Answers to HER much higher order... :rolleyes:

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