johnwk
02-15-2009, 06:30 AM
If one considers a “conservative” as one who supports and defends abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agreed to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from the recorded debates during the framing and ratification process our Constitution, [each article, section, clause and amendment], then the alleged Fair Tax (http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.25:), which has been proposed in the House, is anything but a “conservative” tax reform proposal! Indeed, the alleged fair tax is comparable to the principal under which the Marxist income tax is based --- from each State according to its ability.
Under the AFT (alleged fair tax) although profits, gains, salaries and other forms of “incomes” are not the primary target of this tax, the AFT targets the value of the sale of people’s property, real and personal, which is another type of wealth based tax, and one which our founding fathers specifically objected to during the framing of our Constitution! [1]
Our founding father’s resistance to a wealth based tax eventually led to a specific rule --- that if Congress found imposts, duties and miscellaneous excise taxes insufficient to meet Congress’s exigencies, and Congress determined it was necessary to call upon the people within the various states in a general tax among the states, Congress would be required to determine a specific sum to be raised under the tax and then send a bill to each state to remit its share of the total sum being raised by Congress. In addition, each state’s share of the total sum being raised was not left to Congress’s discretion, but was to be determined by the same fixed formula used to determine each state’s number of Representatives. In view of our Constitution having been amended, the formula by which to determine each state’s contribution under a general tax among the states may be expressed as follows:
State`s population
------------------------------ X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S SHARE
Total U.S. Population
The fairness of this tax is that it is an equal tax! For example, if the tax were laid today and the people of New York each had to pay one dollar to meet its apportioned share of the total sum being raised by Congress, the people of Idaho would likewise only have to pay one dollar each if the tax were shared evenly among the people living in Idaho. And although New York’s total share of the tax would be substantially greater than that of Idaho’s, New York would be compensated by its larger representation in Congress, a principle which commands --- representation with proportional obligation!
The intended protection was those states carrying the lion’s share of a general tax among the states___ a primary tax to meet Congress’s expenditures laid within the various state borders which fell directly upon the people and their property ___ would be compensated by a vote in Congress Assembled proportionately equal to their financial contribution___ a vote to be exercised in determining how their money would be spent by Congress!
Socialists and the friends of big government are great at spending other people’s money and always demand their one man one vote part of the Constitution when it comes to spending from the federal treasury. But when it comes time to fill the national treasury in a tax which reaches income and/or real and personal property, they run and hide from the one vote one dollar part of the Constitution, which is also part of the apportionment formula and gave them their one man one vote.
The AFT is designed, just as income taxation now does, to subjugate the great compromise arrived at during the Constitutional Convention, and the intentions repeatedly expressed during the ratification process of our Constitution. For example, Mr. George Nicholas said: with regard to a general tax "the proportion of taxes is fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of territory, or fertility of soil ___ Each State will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax. As it was justly observed by the gentleman over the way, (Mr. Randolph), they cannot possibly exceed that proportion; they are limited and restrained expressly to it. The state legislatures have no check of this kind. Their power is uncontrolled." 3 Elliot, 243, 244.
Mr. Madison remarked that "they will be limited to fix the proportion of each State, and they must raise it in the most convenient and satisfactory manner to the public." 3 Elliot, 255.
If the architects of the AFT were sincere about tax reform which would benefit the people rather than folks in government, they would be promoting an amendment to our Constitution, which would bring us back to our FOUNDING FATHER’S ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as they intended it to operate ___ a plan created by tax rebels which was designed to control the actions of Congress, rather than having Congress control the people. Returning to our Constitution ’s original tax plan requires nothing more than the following words to be added to our Constitution:
The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money
JWK
[1]
For verification see Madison’s Notes on the Convention of 1787, July 5th (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_705.asp) beginning with:
Mr. Govr. MORRIS … thought property ought to be taken into the estimate as well as the number of inhabitants. Life & liberty were generally said to be of more value, than property. An accurate view of the matter would nevertheless prove that property was the main object of Society. . . . These ideas might appear to some new, but they were nevertheless just. If property then was the main object of Govt. certainly it ought to be one measure of the influence due to those who were to be affected by the Governmt. … He thought the rule of representation ought to be so fixed as to secure to the Atlantic States a prevalence in the National Councils….”
Under the AFT (alleged fair tax) although profits, gains, salaries and other forms of “incomes” are not the primary target of this tax, the AFT targets the value of the sale of people’s property, real and personal, which is another type of wealth based tax, and one which our founding fathers specifically objected to during the framing of our Constitution! [1]
Our founding father’s resistance to a wealth based tax eventually led to a specific rule --- that if Congress found imposts, duties and miscellaneous excise taxes insufficient to meet Congress’s exigencies, and Congress determined it was necessary to call upon the people within the various states in a general tax among the states, Congress would be required to determine a specific sum to be raised under the tax and then send a bill to each state to remit its share of the total sum being raised by Congress. In addition, each state’s share of the total sum being raised was not left to Congress’s discretion, but was to be determined by the same fixed formula used to determine each state’s number of Representatives. In view of our Constitution having been amended, the formula by which to determine each state’s contribution under a general tax among the states may be expressed as follows:
State`s population
------------------------------ X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S SHARE
Total U.S. Population
The fairness of this tax is that it is an equal tax! For example, if the tax were laid today and the people of New York each had to pay one dollar to meet its apportioned share of the total sum being raised by Congress, the people of Idaho would likewise only have to pay one dollar each if the tax were shared evenly among the people living in Idaho. And although New York’s total share of the tax would be substantially greater than that of Idaho’s, New York would be compensated by its larger representation in Congress, a principle which commands --- representation with proportional obligation!
The intended protection was those states carrying the lion’s share of a general tax among the states___ a primary tax to meet Congress’s expenditures laid within the various state borders which fell directly upon the people and their property ___ would be compensated by a vote in Congress Assembled proportionately equal to their financial contribution___ a vote to be exercised in determining how their money would be spent by Congress!
Socialists and the friends of big government are great at spending other people’s money and always demand their one man one vote part of the Constitution when it comes to spending from the federal treasury. But when it comes time to fill the national treasury in a tax which reaches income and/or real and personal property, they run and hide from the one vote one dollar part of the Constitution, which is also part of the apportionment formula and gave them their one man one vote.
The AFT is designed, just as income taxation now does, to subjugate the great compromise arrived at during the Constitutional Convention, and the intentions repeatedly expressed during the ratification process of our Constitution. For example, Mr. George Nicholas said: with regard to a general tax "the proportion of taxes is fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of territory, or fertility of soil ___ Each State will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax. As it was justly observed by the gentleman over the way, (Mr. Randolph), they cannot possibly exceed that proportion; they are limited and restrained expressly to it. The state legislatures have no check of this kind. Their power is uncontrolled." 3 Elliot, 243, 244.
Mr. Madison remarked that "they will be limited to fix the proportion of each State, and they must raise it in the most convenient and satisfactory manner to the public." 3 Elliot, 255.
If the architects of the AFT were sincere about tax reform which would benefit the people rather than folks in government, they would be promoting an amendment to our Constitution, which would bring us back to our FOUNDING FATHER’S ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as they intended it to operate ___ a plan created by tax rebels which was designed to control the actions of Congress, rather than having Congress control the people. Returning to our Constitution ’s original tax plan requires nothing more than the following words to be added to our Constitution:
The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money
JWK
[1]
For verification see Madison’s Notes on the Convention of 1787, July 5th (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_705.asp) beginning with:
Mr. Govr. MORRIS … thought property ought to be taken into the estimate as well as the number of inhabitants. Life & liberty were generally said to be of more value, than property. An accurate view of the matter would nevertheless prove that property was the main object of Society. . . . These ideas might appear to some new, but they were nevertheless just. If property then was the main object of Govt. certainly it ought to be one measure of the influence due to those who were to be affected by the Governmt. … He thought the rule of representation ought to be so fixed as to secure to the Atlantic States a prevalence in the National Councils….”