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FSP-Rebel
02-14-2009, 04:54 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/video/?playerId=videolandingpage&referralObject=3572007. Check it out, us Free Staters are very happy about this interview. Rep Dan Itse is one of the co-sponsors to the States' Rights Re-Affirmation bill HCR 6 (NH). There was so much interest derived from the interview that it bogged down the FSP site for awhile. There is a major rally being planned in early March to support this effort to get the full house to pass the resolution. Courtesy of www.freestateproject.org and www.nhliberty.org/forum. Enjoy

Jeremy
02-14-2009, 05:02 PM
sweet i've been hearing about this on the ridley report

Jeremy
02-14-2009, 05:07 PM
a shoutout to the nh liberty alliance at the end :P

Dequeant
02-14-2009, 05:12 PM
If you really want to witness the dollar plummet, wait until a state passes a Declaration of Independence from the federal government.

Quite possibly, it is conceivable that if a state prepared well in advance of the vote, as in by preparing its own currency backed by something solid, this would be the states' biggest weapon in a war of independence.

Lincoln used it to beat the south by freeing the slaves. Undermine the economy and stand back. Only this gun would be shot automatically, without so much as a single firearm being used. The more states that followed, the lower the dollar would plummet.

constituent
02-14-2009, 05:21 PM
If you really want to witness the dollar plummet, wait until a state passes a Declaration of Independence from the federal government.


Indeed, currency at present is valued in terms of relative (anticipated) obedience more than anything else.

dr. hfn
02-14-2009, 05:46 PM
bump! Glenn Beck is really really impressing me!!!!

Malakai
02-14-2009, 06:26 PM
A state could save its economy in a crash by legalizing the constitution in that state, IE allow gold and silver to be used as currency and payment of taxes.
Employers could start paying employees in that state in gold and silver coins, and go from there. If you got your state completely off the dollar, you would effectively be immune to the problems of those using USD.
Unfortunately now would be the time to do this, when the dollar is still holding out and gold/silver aren't in the stratosphere yet.

nate895
02-14-2009, 07:31 PM
Unfortunately now would be the time to do this, when the dollar is still holding out and gold/silver aren't in the stratosphere yet.

Gold and silver would not be in the stratosphere, the US Dollar would just be in a huge pit.

liberteebell
02-14-2009, 07:53 PM
If you really want to witness the dollar plummet, wait until a state passes a Declaration of Independence from the federal government.

Quite possibly, it is conceivable that if a state prepared well in advance of the vote, as in by preparing its own currency backed by something solid, this would be the states' biggest weapon in a war of independence.

Lincoln used it to beat the south by freeing the slaves. Undermine the economy and stand back. Only this gun would be shot automatically, without so much as a single firearm being used. The more states that followed, the lower the dollar would plummet.

+1776 and I hope some state has sense enough to do this.

UnReconstructed
02-14-2009, 08:55 PM
is any FSP early mover a member on this board?

Peace&Freedom
02-14-2009, 10:13 PM
The dollar has been set up to collapse for quite a while by mountain range piles of fiat money, endless bailouts, trillions in war and empire spending, and debt obligation overload. It will collapse with or without a state seceding. It would be beneficial for the states to pull out of the Titanic ahead of time rather than go down with the ship.

Ex Post Facto
02-14-2009, 10:53 PM
They wouldn't necessarily have to pull out, all the states could simply cut off funding if they were pushed to that limit, work with other states to hold a new election for all in Federal Government. Each state would have to call their state militia (that would be everyone) on a volunteer basis and use them to remove corrupt powers. Every state constitution is exactly like our national constitution.

ihsv
02-14-2009, 11:35 PM
Oooooo... that sent goosebumps and shivers up and down my spine!!!!

Sweet!

Join The Paul Side
02-15-2009, 12:01 AM
Amazing. Could this really happen?

Does this mean that state level house reps and senators (not the ones in Washington in Congress, the ones that work for the people of their state) can actually pull the rug from under the federal government if they felt it was in the best interest of the State? They really have this power?

Anwar_S
02-15-2009, 01:05 AM
If you really want to witness the dollar plummet, wait until a state passes a Declaration of Independence from the federal government.

Quite possibly, it is conceivable that if a state prepared well in advance of the vote, as in by preparing its own currency backed by something solid, this would be the states' biggest weapon in a war of independence.

Lincoln used it to beat the south by freeing the slaves. Undermine the economy and stand back. Only this gun would be shot automatically, without so much as a single firearm being used. The more states that followed, the lower the dollar would plummet.

Even if they had a solid currency where would they be able to purchase supplies and ammunition? The federal gvt would surely place a blockade around the entire state.

Ex Post Facto
02-15-2009, 01:11 AM
Amazing. Could this really happen?

Does this mean that state level house reps and senators (not the ones in Washington in Congress, the ones that work for the people of their state) can actually pull the rug from under the federal government if they felt it was in the best interest of the State? They really have this power?

Yes they could theoretically. This is not the point of this though. The point is that the states are saying the constitution needs to be followed with respect to individual liberties and states rights. That all powers not delegated to the Federal Government are reserved to the States and to the People. This is written in the constitution. This statement puts the federal government on notice about this.

fj45lvr
02-15-2009, 01:36 AM
Yes they could theoretically. This is not the point of this though. The point is that the states are saying the constitution needs to be followed with respect to individual liberties and states rights. That all powers not delegated to the Federal Government are reserved to the States and to the People. This is written in the constitution. This statement puts the federal government on notice about this.


big deal.....the FEDS through the judicial branch have their tentacles into everything based on "commerce" ......trying to find anything that doesn't involve "commerce" is next to IMPOSSIBLE.

so good luck with that NH....I really want you to give the middle finger to these JUDGES (many long dead)....WE KNOW that they have PERVERTED the plain meaning of the Constitution by the weakest arguments (like "commerce").

In reality though you would have to wonder why the FEDS would fight to keep control of NH??? what's the point?

mediahasyou
02-15-2009, 02:05 PM
That's right kids. There is no constitution.

Knightskye
02-15-2009, 04:32 PM
Live Free or Die, baby! :D

RonPaulCentral
02-15-2009, 06:10 PM
Gold and silver would not be in the stratosphere, the US Dollar would just be in a huge pit.

Study the FRN relationship to Gold/Silver and you will see this is one in the same.