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sevin
02-11-2009, 10:40 AM
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0210.html

^This is one of the most interesting articles I've ever read. It's called, "Boomers - Your Crisis Has Arrived."

The article takes its ideas from a book called The Fourth Turning which suggests that American history goes through a series of 70-90 year cycles, within which are 20 year sections, each with its own "turning" and distinct generation.

From the article:



They are able to trace these turnings back to 1500 with remarkable consistency. They have broken U.S. history into the following cycles of history: Revolutionary Cycle (1701-1791), Civil War Cycle (1792-1859), Great Power Cycle (1860-1942), and the Millennial Cycle (1943-2???). Within these cycles are four distinct generations, that have a consistent persona.

They then look at the most recent generations in more detail:

Greatest Generation - Heroic - Born 1901 to 1924
Silent Generation - Artistic - Born 1925 to 1942
Boomer Generation - Idealist - Born 1943 to 1960
Generation X - Reactive - Born 1961 to 1981
Millennial Generation - Heroic - Born 1982 - 200?

The negative is that we are facing the winter and it could last 10 to 20 more years. But for you optimists, there is the possibility that there will be a rebirth once all this is over; perhaps a return to sound money and more freedoms.

Of course it's all just theory, but it makes a LOT of sense to me. Thought some of you might enjoy this.

raystone
02-11-2009, 11:03 AM
It's a cycle, alright. The only problem is these 20 year cycles are all part of the bigger country cycle between a republic and a dictatorship. Our 200 years in the republic cycle is almost up unless this revolution succeeds.


Alexander Tyler
(in his 1770 book, Cycle of Democracy)

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a louse fiscal responsibility, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world's great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence:"

sevin
02-11-2009, 12:00 PM
It's a cycle, alright. The only problem is these 20 year cycles are all part of the bigger country cycle between a republic and a dictatorship. Our 200 years in the republic cycle is almost up unless this revolution succeeds.

Interesting, but if the 200-year cycle is true, then that still means a new republic could be born in a few decades. In the meantime, we will probably see depression, dictatorship, and war, but once the dust settles things could get better again.

I like to think that if we keep working at spreading our message and preserving our ideas, those of use who are younger will live to see the dawn of a new era of a freedom rather than a new dark age.

Truth Warrior
02-11-2009, 12:18 PM
To me, it's part of the cycle of human history.

BTW, the Boomers are the post WWII baby boom. Usually referred to as being born between 1946 - 1964. That makes Obama a Boomer too, contrary to the NOW popular and bogus MSM BS. :p :rolleyes:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_(book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_(book))

sevin
02-11-2009, 12:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_(book) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_(book))

Your link was broke. Fixed here^.

Thanks for that. I might have to order that book.

Truth Warrior
02-11-2009, 12:39 PM
Your link was broke. Fixed here^.

Thanks for that. I might have to order that book. That's funny, the original link, as posted, STILL works for me. :confused:

I think "Generations" is great and very insightful.

Demographics, in several ways, is destiny.<IMHO> ;)

constituent
02-11-2009, 04:08 PM
They then look at the most recent generations in more detail:

Greatest Generation - Heroic - Born 1901 to 1924
Silent Generation - Artistic - Born 1925 to 1942
Boomer Generation - Idealist - Born 1943 to 1960
Generation X - Reactive - Born 1961 to 1981
Millennial Generation - Heroic - Born 1982 - 200?


You forgot Cold Y (reprizent).

CUnknown
02-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Gen X is reactive? What does that mean, exactly?

Truth Warrior
02-11-2009, 05:13 PM
http://www.lifecourse.com/store/catalog/major/thirteenthGen.html (http://www.lifecourse.com/store/catalog/major/thirteenthGen.html)

RCA
02-11-2009, 05:43 PM
It's a cycle, alright. The only problem is these 20 year cycles are all part of the bigger country cycle between a republic and a dictatorship. Our 200 years in the republic cycle is almost up unless this revolution succeeds.


Alexander Tyler
(in his 1770 book, Cycle of Democracy)

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a louse fiscal responsibility, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world's great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence:"

http://lorencollins.net/tytler.html

sevin
02-11-2009, 10:29 PM
Gen X is reactive? What does that mean, exactly?

This is from the article:

"A Nomad (or Reactive) generation is born during an Awakening, spends its rising adult years during an Unraveling, spends midlife during a Crisis, and spends old age in a new High. Nomadic leaders have been cunning, hard-to-fool realists, taciturn warriors who prefer to meet problems and adversaries one-on-one."

Truth Warrior
02-12-2009, 10:32 AM
This is from the article:

"A Nomad (or Reactive) generation is born during an Awakening, spends its rising adult years during an Unraveling, spends midlife during a Crisis, and spends old age in a new High. Nomadic leaders have been cunning, hard-to-fool realists, taciturn warriors who prefer to meet problems and adversaries one-on-one." Well, that would certainly seem to exclude the socialists.<IMHO> :D