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johnwk
02-07-2009, 11:06 AM
SEE: Obama's economic recovery plan on track in Senate (http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11651739?source=most_viewed)



In addition to Collins and Specter, Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine pledged to vote for the legislation.

These three “Republicans” are about to agree to ignore our written Constitution and aid Obama in a massive subjugation of the limited powers granted to Congress by our Constitution!

For example, federal money in the bill for public school systems established under state Constitutions, is not only beyond Congress’s spending powers, it also comes with the left wing agenda to seize control over the minds of our nation’s children, just as was the case with the No Child Left Behind Act, which was just the beginning of a planned federal takeover of public school systems.

But that is what tyrannical governments are all about… brainwashing a nation’s youth. Our Marxists in Congress need to gain total control over state established public school systems to usher in their Marxists plans, and this is what Obama’s federal handout to the states is all about --- A POWER OVER A MAN's SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL( ____ Hamilton, No. 79 Federalist Papers).

In Obama’s case it’s a power over the various state’s subsistence will amount to a power over the various state legislatures! This is exactly what SCHIP is all about, tightening the iron fist of the federal government over the people's health care needs.

Collins, Specter and Snowe are agreeing to subjugate Federalism, our Constitution’s plan! They are acting traitorous to the oath of office they took to preserve and protect our written Constitution.

What is not un-constitutional is allowing the people in the states to keep their own hard earned paychecks so they may then meet their economic needs without becoming dependent upon the federal government which now seizes their paychecks and taxes them into dependency!

And what could be the most important “stimulus’ Congress could now enact which is not included in Obama‘s plan? Ending the tax on working people’s paychecks and substituting it with a federal luxury tax laid on specifically chosen articles of consumption ___ a kind of tax our founding fathers intended under the “excise” taxing power, and was successfully used until Congress tried to increase these taxes beyond reasonable levels. Keep in mind excessive taxes laid upon articles of luxury are regulated by the market place, and this is what a tyrannical government objects to --- it wants direct access to working people’s paychecks which has an added advantage of taxing them into dependency upon folks in government!

For a recent application of this tax [taxing articles of luxury] see The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c101:H.R.5835:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c101:4:./temp/~c101exSUxe) click on 4. “Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.5835.ENR]”, after which you may scroll down to TITLE XI--REVENUE PROVISIONS, and then click on :
PART III--TAXES ON LUXURY ITEMS



`SEC. 4001. PASSENGER VEHICLES.

There is hereby imposed on the 1st retail sale of any passenger vehicle a tax equal to 10 percent of the price for which so sold to the extent such price exceeds $30,000.

`SEC. 4002. BOATS.
There is hereby imposed on the 1st retail sale of any boat a tax equal to 10 percent of the price for which so sold to the extent such price exceeds $100,000.

`SEC. 4003. AIRCRAFT.
There is hereby imposed on the 1st retail sale of any aircraft a tax equal to 10 percent of the price for which so sold to the extent such price exceeds $250,000.

`SEC. 4006. JEWELRY.
There is hereby imposed on the 1st retail sale of any jewelry a tax equal to 10 percent of the price for which so sold to the extent such price exceeds $10,000.

`SEC. 4007. FURS.
There is hereby imposed on the 1st retail sale of the following articles a tax equal to 10 percent of the price for which so sold to the extent such price exceeds $10,000:

Note that the outrageous 10 percent imposed upon certain specific articles because of Congress’s greed caused diminishes sales of those consumer articles and adversely affected the luxury boat building industry which in turn immediately prompted Congress to repeal the tax in 1991 (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=102&session=1&vote=00263)

Had the tax on luxury boats only been one or two percent it probably would have been paid without much resistance. But, the tax was an outrageous 10 percent and the market place responded to limit Congress‘s greedy desire for revenue. As documented in Federalist No. 21, our founding fathers carefully devised a tax plan allowing the market place to prevent an “extension of the revenue” and avoided class warfare now engaged in under a tax laid upon the wages of labor.

For those who are interested in real economic stimulus see The WAGE TAX HOLIDAY which has 55 co-sponsors! (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-143)

JWK

Black working people who support Obama are absolutely correct when they say, as a general statement, “its all about the Benjamins”. But they seem to be easily conned into surrendering the “Benjamins“ they earn to "agents of change" who merely seek to change the faces of those holding political plum jobs within the inner circle of the Washington Establishment. Do black voters not realize they will be betrayed by Obama's "agents of change“ and remain tax slaves ___ useful to work and pay taxes to feed political plum job holders on our federal plantation?

werdd
02-07-2009, 11:13 AM
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HOLLYWOOD
02-07-2009, 11:15 AM
It just shows you... there's no difference in CONGRESS... maybe a morsel or two to give the impression. This BS Stimulus Bill- About CONGRESS, By CONGRESS, and FOR CONGRESS.

No difference, just theft from the people.


But at the end of the day, we are passing a bold and responsible plan that will help our economy get back on its feet, put people to work and put more money in their pockets," Reid said.

Despite a 58-41 majority bolstered by the elections, Democrats need 60 votes to clear a key procedural hurdle on Monday and advance the bill to a final vote.

In addition to Collins and Specter, Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine pledged to vote for the legislation.

Bruno
02-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Specter is a tool. His pandering vote is to be expected.

Zuras
02-07-2009, 11:28 AM
Good ol' Snow and Collins again. These two idiots are manchurian dumbcrat plants. The same two morons were the ones that try to get clinton out of the hot seat for perjury. No shock here, except for Specter. WTF is up with that?? He's usually pretty fiscally conservative. Guess he's got some kind of kick back.

sarahgop
02-07-2009, 11:54 AM
they are big govt socialists!!

mconder
02-07-2009, 12:18 PM
Looks like a planet of the apes guy with a Robin Hood cap.

akihabro
02-07-2009, 12:26 PM
Yah Obama seems pretty upset they are taking their time amending and passing this bill. That is the whole reasons for debates so the correct laws can be implemented. Seems like Obama just wants to destroy the economy even further to push some sort of agenda.
Anyone ever watch Paulson when he was pushing for the bailout? He looked really nervous. And we all know that didn't work. I doubt this will work and is filled with a bunch of crap spending. Any website out there that tracks how unconstitutional this government has become?

sluggo
02-07-2009, 12:28 PM
I don't think you guys realize that there is going to be a CATASTROPHE if Obama's bill doesn't pass.

They are only doing what's best for us.


;)

BKom
02-07-2009, 12:30 PM
Good ol' Snow and Collins again. These two idiots are manchurian dumbcrat plants. The same two morons were the ones that try to get clinton out of the hot seat for perjury. No shock here, except for Specter. WTF is up with that?? He's usually pretty fiscally conservative. Guess he's got some kind of kick back.

Check Specter's record sometime and you'll find that your impression is mistaken. He has always been a RINO.

johnwk
02-07-2009, 01:20 PM
I don't think you guys realize that there is going to be a CATASTROPHE if Obama's bill doesn't pass.

They are only doing what's best for us.


;)

The only CATASTROPHE would be, our federal treasury would not get looted and handed over to parasites who want to feed at the public trough in return for their vote.


JWK


"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).

dr. hfn
02-07-2009, 01:29 PM
sent a letter to Specter

virgil47
02-07-2009, 01:45 PM
Follow the money. These three have been bought and payed for by the socialists in our midst.

johnwk
02-08-2009, 04:23 PM
Check Specter's record sometime and you'll find that your impression is mistaken. He has always been a RINO.


Amen to that!


Let us remember Sen. Collins, Sen. Snowe, and Sen. Specter as the gang of three who sided with Marxists in Congress willing to sell our nation’s unborn and defenseless children into a slavish and binding debt to create Obama’a federal plantation.


JWK


If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon a federal government check, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s working population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama's Marxist game plan, a plan to establish a federal plantation and redistribute the wages earned by labor.
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sluggo
02-09-2009, 08:34 AM
Anybody calling?

Nyte
02-09-2009, 12:50 PM
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georgiaboy
02-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Let us remember Sen. Collins, Sen. Snowe, and Sen. Specter as the gang of three who sided with Marxists in Congress willing to sell our nation’s unborn and defenseless children into a slavish and binding debt to create Obama’a federal plantation.


Where are the other 39 Senators outrage? Why aren't there some Democrats voting no?

It's all such a disgusting and blatant manipulation to try and give everyone an excuse, but still the result is as planned.

HOLLYWOOD
02-09-2009, 02:20 PM
Good ol' Snow and Collins again. These two idiots are manchurian dumbcrat plants. The same two morons were the ones that try to get clinton out of the hot seat for perjury.

I'm sure these 2 Synthetic Republicans will start weilding the "STATS, JOB, & O'Catastrophe" touts"

STATS are like a BIKINI... They reveal an awful lot, but also cover-up the vital points!

Look for that from the ORACLE of OPTIMISM in his speech tonight too!


No shock here, except for Specter. WTF is up with that?? He's usually pretty fiscally conservative. Guess he's got some kind of kick back.

Specter is a Elitist, Wealth, Zionist Shill... him and Robert Byrd have been there so long, they're going to mount monuments on K- Street in their honor.

johnwk
02-10-2009, 06:18 AM
Anybody calling?


I sure hope so, this bill has some scary stuff in it,See: How the Stimulus Bill Could Kill You (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/how_the_stimulus_bill_could_ki.html)




On page 151 of this legislative pork-fest is one of the clandestine nuggets of social policy manipulation that are peppered throughout the bill. Section 9201 of the stimulus package establishes the "Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research." This body, which would be made up of federal bureaucrats will "coordinate the conduct or support of comparative effectiveness and related health services research."


Sounds benign enough, but the man behind the Coordinating Council, Health and Human Services Secretary-designate (and tax cheat) Tom Daschle, was kind enough to explain the goal of this organization.

It is to cut health care costs by preventing Americans from getting treatments that the government decides don't meet their standards for cost effectiveness. In his 2008 book on health care, he explained that such a council would, "lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags."

This bill is not about stimulating the economy, it’s about creating the framework for a national socialist government with Marxists in charge of that government!




The Obama rush to get his stimulus plan adopted, is intentionally designed to get it through without the people knowing what’s in the bill. The writing is on the wall!

I think it’s time for patriotic Americans to pay a visit to Washington with their sporting gear, as once suggested by Walter Williams.


JWK

The servant has become the master over those who created a servant and the new servant pays tribute by taxation to a gangster government which ignores our most basic laws…our constitutions, state and federal.

sluggo
02-10-2009, 07:57 AM
What exactly is going on with this bill now?

Senate makes final vote today and then back to the House?