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ClayTrainor
02-04-2009, 08:50 AM
I've noticed that a lot of people around me are starting to pay a lot more attention to world issues, after i start pointing out all the corruptness to them consistently.


Pretty much everyone around me, including myself, bought into mainstream politics until we discovered Ron Paul, and the concept of free markets and individual rights.

My Dad used to be a neo-con, and has been a strong supporter of the Harper government, in Canada. He also thought Bush did a great job. He recently sent me an email telling me how accurate I've been about the economy, and saying he thinks it's time the wars came to and end.

My Liberal Uncle e-mailed me recently telling me he's 100% behind the freedom movement, after having an e-mail debate with him on government spending. He ended up saying that he will help spread the message in any way he can.

My Grandma who saw the worst of ww2, used to support the foreign wars because she simply supported the troops. After talking to her for months, and explaining how the wars are based on lies, and are undeclared, she's now demanding our troops come home immediately.

I could go on and on. My sister, my friends, work associates, all seem to be coming around.

Anyone else feel like our message is truly gaining steam? or is it just my family?

acptulsa
02-04-2009, 08:58 AM
Yes! More than ever before! I can actually laugh with the bank tellers about where do I get money that won't shrink with inflation like wool in a hot dryer, my old line evangelical boss will actually admit that the neocons really don't seem to care about abortion very much, and the couple outside the meetup said, "Oh, yeah, Ron Paul. I don't know why the media did that to him. It isn't right."

And I blame you guys and gals. Good work!! Now--kill the false left/right paradigm! Hey, conservatives. You've been voting for an abortion ban for decades. Got it yet? Voting for the right people? Hey, you liberals. You've been voting for privacy for decades. Got it yet? Voting for the right people?!!

angelatc
02-04-2009, 09:04 AM
No. We have food and we're warm, so it can't be that bad.

Stary Hickory
02-04-2009, 09:18 AM
People are coming on board, my family is now Libertarian. They always were, but out of patriotic duty they supported Republicans.

Libertarianism is still the heart of this nation. And Libertarians have morality, logic, and common sense on their side. Truth and freedom will win, we just need to stay focused.

roho76
02-04-2009, 09:35 AM
My family and I went down to an old friends of my wife's and we started talking about the FED and how Depressions and Recessions are not a natural occurrence of the free market and how they didn't exist in the US before the Federal Reserve started manipulating our interest rates. Then I told them about the Roaring 20's and the massive expansion of credit at the time led to the Great Depression and it looked like it all clicked. I could literally see the light bulb turn on in both of their heads. It was quite an interesting thing to witness. They kept asking me questions and I kept giving them answers. They took on a thirst for info. My wife's friend emailed her a couple days later and said they wanted to get together again soon and wanted to talk more about it. I had my wife send them Chris Martensons Crash Course to get them started. I can't wait to talk to them again about it.

All in all I believe people are waking up. At least anybody who is capable of reason and logical thought. Some of the hard core Liberals and Neo-Cons are so indoctrinated that they are a lost cause. We need to make these people the minority. I mean how many people voted in the last election. Around 100 Million? That means that 2/3rds of the nation is to apathetic to vote and those should be our targets. I believe those are the ones who are to smart to fall into the Right/Left paradigm and choose not to vote at all. I mean look at how many people RP brought out of the voting closet. It can be done and it must be done.

smithtg
02-04-2009, 09:44 AM
I had a discussion last night with a fellow at my church; totally surprised me on how he agreed with most of what I said

the discussion started around how we were going to fund building a new church and who we would actually borrow money from. I made a sarcastic comment basically saying I don't think we should patronize ANY bank and find other means of borrowing (and yes there are other means)

This led into a discussion about banks, the FED, inflation and I left with RP's argument about how an ounce of gold bought a suit 30 years ago and it still will buy a suit. I saw a lightbulb go off in his head; he was a pretty 'common' guy but then in the midst of this he says to me; yeah, you know I used to budget 40 bucks cash a week to buy lunch etc, now its like 60.

uh huh, yeah we are all getting hosed.

RevolutionSD
02-04-2009, 09:44 AM
I've noticed that a lot of people around me are starting to pay a lot more attention to world issues, after i start pointing out all the corruptness to them consistently.


Pretty much everyone around me, including myself, bought into mainstream politics until we discovered Ron Paul, and the concept of free markets and individual rights.

My Dad used to be a neo-con, and has been a strong supporter of the Harper government, in Canada. He also thought Bush did a great job. He recently sent me an email telling me how accurate I've been about the economy, and saying he thinks it's time the wars came to and end.

My Liberal Uncle e-mailed me recently telling me he's 100% behind the freedom movement, after having an e-mail debate with him on government spending. He ended up saying that he will help spread the message in any way he can.

My Grandma who saw the worst of ww2, used to support the foreign wars because she simply supported the troops. After talking to her for months, and explaining how the wars are based on lies, and are undeclared, she's now demanding our troops come home immediately.

I could go on and on. My sister, my friends, work associates, all seem to be coming around.

Anyone else feel like our message is truly gaining steam? or is it just my family?

That's great to hear.
No such luck on my side.
Most people I know are either Obamazombies or simply pay no attention to what's going on.

My family are all hardcore neocons and will likely never change.

Keep up the good work!

torchbearer
02-04-2009, 09:47 AM
1 out of 20 people at work have walked up to me converted... saying i was right about everything.
the other 19 out of 20 people don't have a fucking clue what is going on beyond the glowing headlines of obama...the oprah story on the twins... and american idol.

acptulsa
02-04-2009, 09:51 AM
the other 19 out of 20 people don't have a fucking clue what is going on beyond the glowing headlines of obama...the oprah story on the twins... and american idol.

The more of the one in twenty we have thinking clearly, the more the other nineteen will absorb, and the less 'out of the mainstream' *gasp* our ideas will be when circumstances demand we all use our brains and cojones or get sheared.

torchbearer
02-04-2009, 09:54 AM
The more of the one in twenty we have thinking clearly, the more the other nineteen will absorb, and the less 'out of the mainstream' *gasp* our ideas will be when circumstances demand we all use our brains and cojones or get sheared.

true, its already starting to show at work.
Where before I was the lone loon in the desert talking about ron paul.
now their are 4 people who speak highly of him... and just having those 4 have all the others listening (where before they weren't really listening).. because it isn't just that lone loon talking about something NO ONE else knows about....

To them.. it must be like... wait, 4 other people know about this guy... i must have missed something.
Did this come on before american idol?

acptulsa
02-04-2009, 10:01 AM
To them.. it must be like... wait, 4 other people know about this guy... i must have missed something.
Did this come on before american idol?

Ha!! Now just remember--when that happens, be happy about it, welcome them warmly, and bite your tongue (hard) every time the phrase 'herd mentality' comes into your head.

torchbearer
02-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Ha!! Now just remember--when that happens, be happy about it, welcome them warmly, and bite your tongue (hard) every time the phrase 'herd mentality' comes into your head.

oh, i'm laughing on the inside.
I notice weird things like... how they judge time of day based off of tv shows like american idol.
Thus that question "was that on before american idol?"
Everything is relative to when that show comes on.
If there was a program i'd want them to see on c-span or something, i'd have to tell them.
The show i want you to watch comes on 2 hours prior tothe time american idol comes on, on a channel 25 numbers higher than the channel american idol comes on....

RCA
02-04-2009, 10:50 AM
it's just your family

torchbearer
02-04-2009, 10:52 AM
it's just your family

huh?
my mother runs the place... i'm the only other family member currently helping out.
my sister just moved.

acptulsa
02-04-2009, 10:54 AM
huh?
my mother runs the place... i'm the only other family member currently helping out.
my sister just moved.

Lol. I think he was actually talking to the OP, torch. Us non-OP-hangers-on must not be worth his time...

torchbearer
02-04-2009, 10:55 AM
Lol. I think he was actually talking to the OP, torch. Us non-OP-hangers-on must not be worth his time...

oh, I mean, its a family diner... but i was thinking.. maybe he thinks my entire family works their.
He didn't have anything quoted, so i wasn't sure who he was talking to.

PatriotLegion
02-04-2009, 11:00 AM
Nah, they are still in there cages. There are a few that are not awake but believe BO will still fix all the problems... Maybe because I work in NYC at a........yes a BANK! (I am an IT Project Manager)

Original_Intent
02-04-2009, 11:10 AM
I have noticed a huge change in the people I work with.

One former skeptic is 100% on board. Almost everyone at least discusses topics that a year ago were "conspiracy theory crazy talk". A lot of people are conceding that Ron paul was right on the economy, and they are very skeptical of bailouts, spending our way out of the crisis, etc.

I think a lot of people will be in denial for some time, maybe forever. But from my experience we are growing rapidly, our ideas are getting out there and taking root.

RCA
02-04-2009, 11:20 AM
oh, I mean, its a family diner... but i was thinking.. maybe he thinks my entire family works their.
He didn't have anything quoted, so i wasn't sure who he was talking to.

I was referring to the original post. I didn't know I had to quote it when replying. I assumed that it would be obvious. I usually only quote other replies.

torchbearer
02-04-2009, 11:23 AM
I was referring to the original post. I didn't know I had to quote it when replying. I assumed that it would be obvious. I usually only quote other replies.

You couldn't have known... i just so happen to have a family diner... so what you said... looked like a response to my post.

JamesButabi
02-04-2009, 11:44 AM
Yes people are waking up. People throwing money around like hotcakes do not know the answers. They have the same suggestions and same failed policy already tried. People who follow their word are looking for answers. In pops us.

coastie
02-04-2009, 12:54 PM
Nope, I am "unpatriotic" because I didnt vote McCain;)

Thats what my father in law thinks of me and the wife. :mad:Fuck his neo-con ass anyway.

Good for you, OP. Even some I "converted" have snapped their attention back to the TV, "nothing to see here"...fucking rediculous.

They hate us for our freedoms, and because we watch American Idol. Which is why we must "stay the course", and continue to give up our freedoms, that way they wont hate us anymore.;)

We have a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go, and it's probably way to late, I'm afraid.:(

Join The Paul Side
02-04-2009, 04:30 PM
I'm trying to reform my brother from being a Fox News Brainwashed Neo-con. I gave him my copy of The Revolution. The guy voted for Rudy Giuliani in the primaries so you know he needs the help. :D

dannno
02-04-2009, 04:59 PM
from xxxxxxx
to xxxxxxx
date Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
subject Fed Reserve

xxxxx,

That 'kook' you told me about was right on his Fed Reserve views, it looks like. No wonder he didn't get elected.

xxxx






Feb 2:


(text from yyyyy re: U.S. Economy Philosopher's Stone youtube http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/10375): ron paul is pretty damn on top of this shit

oilboiler
02-04-2009, 09:22 PM
A lot of people, mainly co-workers, who know my very long held views on the economy are coming up and telling me that I was right. I always remember to tell them that's why I support Ron, because he was the only one in Washington who saw what was happening, told the truth, and knows how to fix it.

cthulhufan
02-04-2009, 09:40 PM
Certainly, more folks are paying attention, in my experience. Not only are they willing to pay attention, they are willing to *discuss* matters also; This is the coup de grāce, IMHO, as once someone is willing to discuss matters then all is not lost. A lot of folks I know are now saying "Hmm, that's interesting, I'll have to check that out..." where as one year ago something akin to "I'm a <INSERT PARTY AFFILIATION HERE>, we can fix what those <OPPOSITE PARTY AFFILIATION> idiots fucked up." was the common mantra.

Hard times makes for common sense solutions :)

I think, personally, that there are a large number of folks that are starting to question things and will refuse the status quo.

Mahkato
02-04-2009, 09:53 PM
I am SO glad McCain lost. It is really helping local Republicans to see the fruits of the party's slide to the center. Freedom is in the air like never before.

Catatonic
02-04-2009, 10:17 PM
Yes.

Been waking up Obama-drones slowly but surely. Its only a matter of time.

DirtMcGirt
02-04-2009, 10:37 PM
yes, but can we maintain and increase their brief awake from slumber???

cthulhufan
02-04-2009, 10:55 PM
yes, but can we maintain and increase their brief awake from slumber???

That's the million dollar question. How many of these folks will actually care a year from now. I wish I could answer that. As far as I'm concerned, just getting folks to the point where they actually question the whys and hows of Federal Government is satisfactory to me. If they go back to sleep, well, I can't fuggin' babysit everyone.

It's that one mind that you unleash. Perhaps it's one mind in a thousand, who can say, but, whatever the number, that one mind is worth more than it's weight in gold. That one mind will wander and awaken other minds, and if one in a thousand of those wakes up; that mind will wake others...

I've found that the ideals of Liberty are, indeed, infectious. We shall see very soon, I fear, exactly what that means when times get hard. I will weep for humanity if the majority in this country succumb to the siren's song of socialism.

jkm1864
02-05-2009, 07:05 AM
I work in the offshore oil and gas business and several of my cohorts are saved. I had to go to a ops meeting the other day due to the slow down in work. I was completely surprised when I started talking to one guy I work with and we were seeing eye to eye. I don't know what it is several guys I work with are awake and We have never even had any contact so they came upon their decisions by themselves just like me. The good thing is the economy is getting really bad and people are looking for answers and especially someone to blame. We are doing a valuable public service by putting 100000000000000000000000000000000% of the blame on the corrupt government and its cronies.

zach
02-05-2009, 08:45 AM
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but anyway. some of my republican friends are vying for smaller government, and Obama is pushing them further to this thought. this is where I'm trying to help them see things in a new way.

acptulsa
02-05-2009, 08:47 AM
but anyway. some of my republican friends are vying for smaller government, and Obama is pushing them further to this thought. this is where I'm trying to help them see things in a new way.

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torchbearer
02-05-2009, 08:56 AM
A lot of people, mainly co-workers, who know my very long held views on the economy are coming up and telling me that I was right. I always remember to tell them that's why I support Ron, because he was the only one in Washington who saw what was happening, told the truth, and knows how to fix it.

This is a true example of how we are all "ron pauls".
Ron Paul ignited our flames... we shall light others...