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BlindD
09-12-2007, 09:27 PM
Great issue!
Custom-made for Ron Paul to tackle and speak out about to the press. And I like the USDA tank pic at the bottom.

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A farmers lament...

http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/E...egal1esp03.htm (http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm)

"[W]hat about dressing a couple of animals a year in the backyard? How can that be compared to a ConAgra or Tyson facility? In the eyes of the government, the two are one and the same. Every T-bone steak has to be wrapped in a half-million dollar facility so that it can be sold to your neighbor. The fact that I can do it on my own farm more cleanly, more responsibly, more humanely, more efficiently, and in a more environmentally friendly manner doesnít matter to the government agents who walk around with big badges on their jackets and wheelbarrow-sized regulations tucked under their arms.

You would think that if I cut the trees, mill the logs into lumber, and build the house on my own farm, I could make it however I wanted to. Think again. Itís illegal to build a house less than 900 square feet. Period. Doesnít matter if Iím a hermit or the father of 20. The government agents have decreed, in their egocentric wisdom, that no human can live in anything less than 900 square feet.

Our son got married last year and wanted to build a small cottage on the farm, which he now oversees for the most part. Our new saying is, "He runs the farm, and I just run around." The plan was to do what Mom and Dad did for Teresa and I ó trade houses when children come. That way our empty nest downsizes, and the young people can upsize in the main family farmhouse. Sounds reasonable and environmentally sensitive to me. But no, his little honeymoon cottage ó or our retirement shack ó had to be a 900-square-foot Taj Mahal. A state-of-the-art accredited composting toilet to avoid the need for a septic system and sewer leach field was denied.

When the hillside leach field would not meet agronomic standards and we had to install it in the floodplain, I asked the health department bureaucrat why. He said that essentially the only approvable leach fields now are alongside creeks and streams, because they are the only sites that offer dark-enough colored soils. Sounds like real environmental steward-ship, doesnít it?

Look, if I want to build a yurt of rabbit skins and go to the bathroom in a compost pile, why is it any of the governmentís business? Bureaucrats bend over back-wards to accredit, tax credit, and offer money to people wanting to build pig city-factories or bigger airports. But let a guy go to his woods, cut down some trees, and build himself a home, and a plethora of regulatory tyrants descend on the project to complicate, obfuscate, irritate, frustrate, and virtually terminate. I think itís time to eradicate some of these laws and the piranhas who administer them."

Joel Salatin, a farmer in Virginia (one of the best in America, as far as I know), wrote an interesting diatribe about how everything he wants to do is illegal (http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm). He canít slaughter his own animals, collaborate marketing with neighbors, charge for farm tours, or build the house he wanted without government interference. If you donít know much about how government makes life hard for small, environmentally-conscious farmers, you should definitely read this.
I learned about Joel in The Omnivoreís Dilemma and was really taken with his permacultural methods of farming. Someday my wife and I hope to visit his farm and attend one of his seminars.
This article made it on the homepage of del.icio.us (http://del.icio.us/), which is very encouraging. In fact, I have been very encouraged over the past year about how environmentally / agriculturally-aware our culture is becoming. It is still a very small segment to be sure, but it is starting to catch on. Thank God.
My hope is that someday feedlots, industrial agriculture, pollution, and destructive mining and foresting practices will be as reprehensible to us as racism.

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Excellent article by the author:
http://www.acresusa.com/toolbox/reprints/Salatin_Sept03.pdf

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RP4ME
09-12-2007, 09:33 PM
GREAT article !!!!

CurtisLow
09-12-2007, 11:58 PM
GREAT article !!!!

ditto

XNavyNuke
05-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Joel Salatin makes this month's Reason Magazine.
Fresh From the Farm (http://www.reason.com/news/show/126067.html)

and a link through to the article has the statists crrawling out of the woodwork over on the Consumerists site.
Government, farming, food, illegal, local food, polyface: Everything This Farmer Wants To Do Is Illegal (http://consumerist.com/5008366/everything-this-farmer-wants-to-do-is-illegal)


Reason asked him to name some of these illegal things he wishes to do.What do you think of this?

XNN

mczerone
05-09-2008, 11:29 AM
From Consumerist Comments:

mikelotus at 10:21 PM on 05/08/08
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Since he is selling his food, and I can tell you what he sells is legit and of high quality, as organic, all natural food, then perhaps its time for the organizations that promote this type of food to step up with their seal of approval on anyone that can meet their requirements. What is interesting is farm raised seafood is not under these type of Federal restrictions so stores such as Whole Food are part of an association that inspects and monitors their suppliers. Seems like this could be the solution in this case also. The big guys will fight it, but given we have Democrats in Congress and soon to have Obama as President, coupled with the meat industry sucking, this might just be politically viable.

Somehow this guy thinks Democrats will help this problem. That's very sad, and truly Orwellian.

acptulsa
05-09-2008, 11:34 AM
Somehow this guy thinks Democrats will help this problem. That's very sad, and truly Orwellian.

Socialism is Free Market

As compared to what? Only fascist corporate welfare, I think... Truly sad indeed.

Rhys
05-09-2008, 11:39 AM
From Consumerist Comments:


Somehow this guy thinks Democrats will help this problem. That's very sad, and truly Orwellian.

Maybe no one sent him a slim jim.

JosephTheLibertarian
05-09-2008, 11:43 AM
what a fool lol. we don't have a free market, do you see now? this is what the Libertarian Party is all about. Democrats prefer more regulations, that's why big corporations donate to them and not to the LP. We're not pro-business like they are, we are pro-free enterprise.

matthylland
05-09-2008, 11:46 AM
Maybe no one sent him a slim jim.

Anyone have a farmer's slim jim left over to send this guy?

JosephTheLibertarian
05-09-2008, 11:48 AM
The only party fighting for this guy is the Libertarian Party.

Danke
05-09-2008, 11:58 AM
Itís illegal to build a house less than 900 square feet. Period. Doesnít matter if Iím a hermit or the father of 20. The government agents have decreed, in their egocentric wisdom, that no human can live in anything less than 900 square feet.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences." C.S. Lewis

Rhys
05-09-2008, 12:04 PM
The only party fighting for this guy is the Libertarian Party.

and the Republican party... unless that is, you say me and we Ron Paul supporters aren't republican. ;)

JosephTheLibertarian
05-09-2008, 12:15 PM
and the Republican party... unless that is, you say me and we Ron Paul supporters aren't republican. ;)

GOP is doing nothing for the little guy. The LP fights for the LP on their platform AND in their rhetoric. The GOP establishment caters to corporate interests, you know that.

berrybunches
05-09-2008, 12:22 PM
This reminds me of mine and my husbands dream.
We want to build a small earthbag dome house (http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/earthbag.htm), much safer than wood, much more durable than wood, but they are illegal in most places and when they are not illegal you have t jump through hoops to get them approved.
We want a composting toilet - these are illegal in most places (so are outhouses now)
We want to use a cistern (collect rain water) or use well water - this can be done but in most cities they make you pay for city water anyway and in my city its illegal to create the explosion to open up your well.
We want solar panels - Can easily be done (chalk one up for solar!)


We want to be completely independent from teh state/city monopoly of essentials to cut out these unnecessary monthly bills. We think it will be safer for the earth and that it will be cheaper in the long haul BUT the thing is there are so many regulations even when the things are legal that it makes it very expensive and time consuming....I guess only the rich and elite are legally or easily allowed to be unconventional.

Rhys
05-09-2008, 12:42 PM
GOP is doing nothing for the little guy. The LP fights for the LP on their platform AND in their rhetoric. The GOP establishment caters to corporate interests, you know that.

we have more Ron Paul supporters working to take the power from the current GOP leadership than total members of the LP. Bob Barr is the first LP nominee I've ever heard of. In fact, I didn't know there was an LP until Ron Paul. So fight on... but it reminds me of a writers guild I used to belong to. I swear to this day, the only people who read our work was ourselves! (except Stephen King cause he's a member)