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jjockers
09-12-2007, 08:07 PM
http://election.msn.com/?GT1=10357

Ron is losing to fred :(

ThePieSwindler
09-12-2007, 08:08 PM
he's losing to giuliani too. What the fuck? Conservative credentials? Do peolpe not even read the question in the poll?

CoreyBowen999
09-12-2007, 08:09 PM
Voted.
wow this is pretty sad Rudy, Fred,Huckabee, John, Romney are beating us as more conservative in this poll:(

Ridiculous
09-12-2007, 08:10 PM
Hell, he is loosing big time. Lets vote people!

BLS
09-12-2007, 08:11 PM
Voted....still WAY behind!

AdamT
09-12-2007, 08:13 PM
Voted. Why in the hell do people think CFR Thompson is "conservative". Damn people are brainwashed.

RonPaulCult
09-12-2007, 08:14 PM
Ron Paul will be number 1 in a few hours

Michael Ingram
09-12-2007, 08:17 PM
Ron Paul will be number 1 in a few hours

can i take your word on that?

katao
09-12-2007, 08:17 PM
voted

skiingff
09-12-2007, 08:18 PM
voted

I think the question was, who has the best NEOconservative credentials

michaelwise
09-12-2007, 08:20 PM
voted

bobmurph
09-12-2007, 08:21 PM
voted.

time to excercise the power of the ron paul revolution!

MsDoodahs
09-12-2007, 08:22 PM
The poll does not show numbers of votes per candidate - it just shows %.

That would make it easy to manipulate to keep the right candidates in the right order.

Not that I think they'd do it...I'm just sayin'.

njandrewg
09-12-2007, 08:24 PM
this isn't msnbc poll...this is MSN poll...this is essentailly eqiuvelent to AOL poll

quickmike
09-12-2007, 08:27 PM
11488 responses

Spirit of '76
09-12-2007, 08:27 PM
Voted.

Something ain't right...

Stealth4
09-12-2007, 08:28 PM
Voted.

We can win this one. spread the word about the poll.

anewvoice
09-12-2007, 08:28 PM
Voted

quickmike
09-12-2007, 08:30 PM
this poll is EXACTLY like the AOL poll. no matter how many times he gets voted for his percentage wont change.

I woudnt waste the effort of clicking the mouse button.

Ebuchholz
09-12-2007, 08:30 PM
Something is fishy... it hasn't changed.

r3volution
09-12-2007, 08:31 PM
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Cindy
09-12-2007, 08:37 PM
Voted.

He's even behind McCain. Remember, the guy who blew through $12,000,000. in 3 months on over priced staff.

Who in their right mind would vote McCain as most conservative:confused:

misconstrued
09-12-2007, 08:38 PM
Digg It:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Who_is_more_conservative_Fred_Thompson_or_Ron_Paul _VOTE_HERE

jjockers
09-12-2007, 08:41 PM
It has changed. He was at 8% when I voted.

Scribbler de Stebbing
09-12-2007, 08:41 PM
Please forward to your meetup group lists!

Lois
09-12-2007, 08:42 PM
Ron Paul's up to 10% now -- it was 9% a few minutes ago when I voted.

I sent it to 3 meetup groups and 3 yahoo groups, so that'll help.

Scribbler de Stebbing
09-12-2007, 08:45 PM
Ron Paul's up to 10% now -- it was 9% a few minutes ago when I voted.

I sent it to 3 meetup groups and 3 yahoo groups, so that'll help.

Me: 3 Meetup groups and 1 Yahoo group

:D

How did we let this one slip? Oh well, we're taking care of it now. Forces engaged.

bricklayer
09-12-2007, 08:49 PM
voted, still 10%

Dary
09-12-2007, 08:50 PM
Sam Brownback 3%
Rudy Giuliani 12%
Mike Huckabee 9%
Duncan Hunter 2%
John McCain 13%
Ron Paul 10%
Mitt Romney 14%
Tom Tancredo 2%
Fred Thompson 34%
12696 responses

wgadget
09-12-2007, 08:51 PM
Wow. They DEFINITELY don't know Fred Thompson.


But they will...

rp4prez
09-12-2007, 08:52 PM
wow when i voted he was at 9% and that was less than an hour ago. :) awesome!

K1RBY
09-12-2007, 08:53 PM
voted

derdy
09-12-2007, 08:54 PM
voted and forwarded to two meetup groups



Sam Brownback 3%
Rudy Giuliani 12%
Mike Huckabee 9%
Duncan Hunter 2%
John McCain 13%
Ron Paul 11%
Mitt Romney 14%
Tom Tancredo 2%
Fred Thompson 34%

JoshLowry
09-12-2007, 08:54 PM
He was at 8% when I first voted, he is now at 11%.

In < 50 minutes RP has gotten over 3000 votes. Pretty crazy...

K1RBY
09-12-2007, 08:55 PM
email this poll to your meetup groups.
lets smash this one!!

rainman39393
09-12-2007, 09:07 PM
voted, its at 12% now:D

JasonM
09-12-2007, 09:15 PM
yup. He is now on par with the rest of the "top tier" with the exception of Fred Thompson. :D

Lois
09-12-2007, 09:17 PM
Ron Paul's at 13% now. I'd love to stick around and see him surpass Fred, but I have to get some sleep. I'm sure tomorrow morning, he'll be at 40% :)

Akus
09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
voted

RP4ME
09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
voted

Ready2Revolt
09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
Sam Brownback 3%
Rudy Giuliani 12%
Mike Huckabee 9%
Duncan Hunter 2%
John McCain 12%
Ron Paul 13%
Mitt Romney 14%
Tom Tancredo 2%
Fred Thompson 33%

Voted

Lois
09-12-2007, 09:21 PM
Not enough to just Vote -- send it to all your Meetup Groups and Yahoo Groups.

Original_Intent
09-12-2007, 09:22 PM
WTF Ron Paul is at 13% and Mitt Romney is at 14%, but Romney's bar is half again as long as Paul's.

I mean I don't want to get into any male member measurement, but is there any reason why 14% can show that much larger than 13%???

Magsec
09-12-2007, 09:22 PM
The bars aren't fair, RP has 13%, Huckabee has 9%, and Romney has 14%. Romney's bar is bigger than RP's, and RP's bar is the same length as Huck's.

Lois
09-12-2007, 09:24 PM
Size doesn't matter :)

hells_unicorn
09-12-2007, 09:25 PM
I voted and I posted the link everywhere on youtube where there is a lot of activity, I think that may have helped a little. I'll work on getting this to the meet-up groups in Pennsylvania unless someone else already got them.

scrosnoe
09-12-2007, 09:25 PM
voted and circulating info - spread the word

Ridiculous
09-12-2007, 09:26 PM
Unfortunatly, I hate to bring this up. But I think someone really might be spamming he poll. Paul just got a ridiculous amount of votes in about an hour. I checked and this would be very easy to do with this poll because all you have to do is block cookies and you can vote multiple times. I could see Paul easily winning in the long run but it gets posted on here and all of a sudden he goes from like 11488 responses to 14195 in one hour with Paul being the only one making gains. I think someone might be using a bot. Just being realistic...

JasonM
09-12-2007, 09:26 PM
it fluctuates between 13 and 14 percent for romney


1. Sam Brownback
3%
2. Rudy Giuliani
12%
3. Mike Huckabee
9%
4. Duncan Hunter
2%
5. John McCain
12%
6. Ron Paul
13%
7. Mitt Romney
13%
8. Tom Tancredo
2%
9. Fred Thompson
33%

quickmike
09-12-2007, 09:27 PM
none of this shit really matters anyway if we dont get out in the real world and spread the word.

SirNim
09-12-2007, 09:28 PM
voted, same percentages, now 15028 responses

JasonM
09-12-2007, 09:28 PM
Who's to say that someone isn't doing that for Fred Thompson? I mean geez. You'd think the "neocons" would get a clue and hire someone to do this sort of thing for their favorite candidate.

Original_Intent
09-12-2007, 09:31 PM
The bars aren't fair, RP has 13%, Huckabee has 9%, and Romney has 14%. Romney's bar is bigger than RP's, and RP's bar is the same length as Huck's.

QFT.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/Denryu/graph.jpg

Lois
09-12-2007, 09:32 PM
And how come 12% and 13% are the exact same size

Yea! He's at 14% now!?

Original_Intent
09-12-2007, 09:34 PM
And 2% for that matter.

themanhere
09-12-2007, 09:34 PM
Clear your cookies! hehe

MsDoodahs
09-12-2007, 09:34 PM
How come?

Because it is fixed.

themanhere
09-12-2007, 09:36 PM
How come?

Because it is fixed.

no if you clear your cookies and refresh the page you will see the light.

Ridiculous
09-12-2007, 09:37 PM
Clear your cookies! hehe


Do you really want to validate Sean Hanity?

Buzz
09-12-2007, 09:37 PM
This isn't even a matter of opinion and shouldn't be a poll question. The FACT that Ron Paul has the best conservative credentials is obvious to everyone who's familiar with the candidates and knows what "conservative" means.

JoshLowry
09-12-2007, 09:37 PM
Clear your cookies! hehe

<Only vote once picture goes here>

themanhere
09-12-2007, 09:38 PM
Do you really want to validate Sean Hanity?

i think this thread alone would validate.

mavtek
09-12-2007, 09:39 PM
voted

honkywill
09-12-2007, 09:39 PM
now Ron Paul is at 14% and Romney 13% and the bar is slanted heavily in RP's favor. Is everyone still gonna bitch?

Ridiculous
09-12-2007, 09:40 PM
Ron Paul will be number 1 in a few hours

Someone's got a bot:rolleyes:

hells_unicorn
09-12-2007, 09:42 PM
now Ron Paul is at 14% and Romney 13% and the bar is slanted heavily in RP's favor. Is everyone still gonna bitch?

I have to agree here, the bars are the same so you can see the percentage number, anything from 1% to 13% would reasonably be close in size because of the formatting they are probably using. Spread the word to others so we can win this, quit crying wolf every time the Fred Heads manage to beat us to a poll.

jj111
09-12-2007, 09:42 PM
Duncan's 2% is almost as big a bar as McCain's 12%.

Original_Intent
09-12-2007, 09:45 PM
I have to agree here, the bars are the same so you can see the percentage number, anything from 1% to 13% would reasonably be close in size because of the formatting they are probably using. Spread the word to others so we can win this, quit crying wolf every time the Fred Heads manage to beat us to a poll.

OK that just doesn't make sense because the 14% has a ton of extra space after it. But regardless it does seem to be the same for anyone at 14%. But it is poor coding at the very least.

dude58677
09-12-2007, 09:49 PM
You can't win them all, this is actual proof that the debate polls weren't spammed.

surf
09-12-2007, 09:58 PM
15%

Original_Intent
09-12-2007, 09:59 PM
now Ron Paul is at 14% and Romney 13% and the bar is slanted heavily in RP's favor. Is everyone still gonna bitch?

And I also gotta say this is a real shitty way to treat people who are on "the same team". I pointed out the bars were poorly representing the comparison. I did not scream conspiracy. I did not bitch. I noticed it and I pointed it out. Period.

You easily cold have pointed out that it was cutting both ways when the percentage switched and left it at that, but no had to be a big man and throw in the snide comment. Very nice.

Netwarrior
09-12-2007, 10:03 PM
bump

hells_unicorn
09-12-2007, 10:03 PM
And I also gotta say this is a real shitty way to treat people who are on "the same team". I pointed out the bars were poorly representing the comparison. I did not scream conspiracy. I did not bitch. I noticed it and I pointed it out. Period.

You easily cold have pointed out that it was cutting both ways when the percentage switched and left it at that, but no had to be a big man and throw in the snide comment. Very nice.

I don't think he was specifically singling you out, but making a general comment about all the doom and gloom going on in several threads. We are making substantial gains in many areas and every time I get on here I practically get the wind taken out of my sails with all the assumed negativity on here.

It has little to do with you individually for pointing out an oddity in the coding of this poll, and everything to do with the tone that this thread has had in a general sense.

EvanVolm
09-12-2007, 10:04 PM
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wgadget
09-12-2007, 10:04 PM
Almost halfway there...

brumans
09-12-2007, 10:05 PM
15% for Paul ATM.. still far away from Thompsons 32%.

Ron Paul is in 2nd place, still. I don't know why so many people are voting for Fred.

slantedview
09-12-2007, 10:05 PM
wow. voted.

hells_unicorn
09-12-2007, 10:11 PM
bump.

Original_Intent
09-12-2007, 10:11 PM
I don't think he was specifically singling you out, but making a general comment about all the doom and gloom going on in several threads. We are making substantial gains in many areas and every time I get on here I practically get the wind taken out of my sails with all the assumed negativity on here.

It has little to do with you individually for pointing out an oddity in the coding of this poll, and everything to do with the tone that this thread has had in a general sense.

Well I gotta agree there. A lot more trolls than usual and even some of the stalwarts have been very negative. I guess I let my own negativity out with the rant.

ClockwiseSpark
09-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Getting there ;)

hells_unicorn
09-12-2007, 10:44 PM
bump

DahuiHeeNalu
09-12-2007, 10:54 PM
we are #2 been spreading it around myspace also!

RP4ME
09-12-2007, 11:01 PM
Is it over???

JasonM
09-12-2007, 11:10 PM
1. Sam Brownback
3%
2. Rudy Giuliani
11%
3. Mike Huckabee
8%
4. Duncan Hunter
2%
5. John McCain
12%
6. Ron Paul
18%
7. Mitt Romney
13%
8. Tom Tancredo
2%
9. Fred Thompson
31%

ClockwiseSpark
09-12-2007, 11:32 PM
Not far now :)

Swmorgan77
09-12-2007, 11:34 PM
Because what is now "conservative" is Stalinism.

What used to be "conservative" is now "libertarian"

ClockwiseSpark
09-12-2007, 11:51 PM
bump

JasonM
09-13-2007, 12:06 AM
stop bumping and post something useful like poll stats :P

1.
1. Sam Brownback
3%
2. Rudy Giuliani
11%
3. Mike Huckabee
8%
4. Duncan Hunter
2%
5. John McCain
12%
6. Ron Paul
19%
7. Mitt Romney
13%
8. Tom Tancredo
2%
9. Fred Thompson
30%

21147 responses

qwerty
09-13-2007, 12:47 AM
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump!

brumans
09-13-2007, 12:50 AM
Anyone notice there is a big ron paul quote at the very bottom middle :)

Craig_R
09-13-2007, 01:04 AM
voted 19% still losing

Fields
09-13-2007, 01:21 AM
Voted. We're getting closer.

ClockwiseSpark
09-13-2007, 02:02 AM
20% Almost there

hells_unicorn
09-13-2007, 08:19 AM
Ron Paul is now within 2% of Fred Thompson, we still need more votes to put him over the top, I hope there are still some out there who have yet to vote.

qednick
09-13-2007, 08:57 AM
Voted. Now 1% from the lead.

Hurricane Bruiser
09-13-2007, 09:05 AM
voted

FrankRep
09-13-2007, 09:08 AM
TIED AT FIRST - HEAD TO HEAD


# Ron Paul
27%

# Fred Thompson
27%


Vote Vote Vote!!

ODU_Truth
09-13-2007, 09:15 AM
Voted!

Still tied with Fred at 27%

BuddyRey
09-13-2007, 09:18 AM
Keep it up, folks! If Ron wins this, it will be his most important "mainstream" poll victory yet!!!

wgadget
09-13-2007, 09:32 AM
Just sent my mother in OH an email to vote....for Ron!

stevedasbach
09-13-2007, 09:33 AM
Actually, might be best to "tie" Fred in this poll. More likely to get mentioned by the MSM.

wgadget
09-13-2007, 09:36 AM
Clear-headed thought, steve....I was thinking along those lines, that maybe they'd actually report it if someone OTHER than Ron won. But a tie is even better...

barcop
09-13-2007, 09:46 AM
Poll voting is over. Ron Paul wins 28% over Freddy with 27%.

Maybe voting isn't over... and it just looks like that to me because I voted yesterday. Either way Paul is winning now.

wgadget
09-13-2007, 09:47 AM
Awesome. I wonder if it will be reported.

Ridiculous
09-13-2007, 09:52 AM
I don't see it saying that the voting is over. I could refresh my browser and vote again if I wanted to.

JasonM
09-13-2007, 11:07 PM
1. Which of the following Republican candidates has the best conservative credentials?
1. Sam Brownback
2%
2. Rudy Giuliani
7%
3. Mike Huckabee
5%
4. Duncan Hunter
2%
5. John McCain
8%
6. Ron Paul
47%
7. Mitt Romney
8%
8. Tom Tancredo
2%
9. Fred Thompson
20%

34905 responses

JasonM
09-14-2007, 10:16 AM
bump

BizmanUSA
09-14-2007, 11:00 AM
Just voted . . . OMG we dropped in the the polls!

We are down to only 46% 9-14-07 12:55 pm Eastern :D

FT was the closest at 19% :eek:

BizmanUSA