New Must See Movie!! Zeitgeist:Addendum!!!

[qwerty]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912


:cool:

EDIT:

People can´t you really understand that you MUST take a look at different kinds of documents to make your own arguments better

If you allways just take a look at the documents you like, you will sound only brainwashed....

Oh, i guess that Ron Paul is also preaching pure marxist propaganda on that film...yeah right...

:rolleyes:

[H Roark]

You gotta be kidding me...

[LibertyEagle]

Pure propaganda.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/67072

[ClayTrainor]

New?.....

Must see? ....


Disagree.

ZA makes some good points, but it preaches socialism.

[emazur]

Not so new, but I agree it's a must see. It does a great job of attacking the Fed, and the confessions of the economic hitman was very interesting. I don't agree with their solutions (make it happen on a small scale before anyone can take them seriously), but it was very professionally done and it makes you think. I'm a pretty hardcore Libertarian but hearing different view points is still interesting - for example, I've found several of Michael Moore's documentaries to be worth watching even though I don't agree with his proposals.

[Conza88]

New?.....
Must see? ....
Disagree.

ZA makes some good points, but it preaches socialism.

Spot on. The only thing I would say is; it makes no good points.

The only reason, they put some stuff in there that appears "good", is because the most effective propaganda is half truths.

Obvious facts, then mixed in with pure bullshit.

Just like David Icke - some good stuff then, ZOMG there are reptiles controlling the elite. Pure psy-ops.

Addendum = marxist bullshit, it is anarcho-communism.

The Death Wish of the Anarcho-Communists by Murray Rothbard (http://mises.org/story/2197)


The fact that the abandonment of rationality and economics in behalf of "freedom" and whim will lead to the scrapping of modern production and civilization and return us to barbarism does not faze our anarcho-communists and other exponents of the new "counter-culture." But what they do not seem to realize is that the result of this return to primitivism would be starvation and death for nearly all of mankind and a grinding subsistence for the ones remaining.

Amazing... the NWO's goal of depopulation, being advocated by brain dead retards who think they are fighting the nwo. :rolleyes:

Addendum crowd is a psy-ops operation. Peter Joesph - grade A douchebag.

</rant> :)

[Pistis]

Zeitgeist Addendum?


Pure Marxist, New-Age/Theosophist propaganda!


It mixes some truths with many untruths;

It uses advanced CGI to pummel the viewer with information in a snappy, believable manner, however it's mostly nonsense;

It picks out Christianity as its target of vitriolic attack on religion but offers a New-Age/Theosophist religion in its place; :confused:

It embraces the Marxist distaste for free markets & free enterprise to the extreme of completely doing away with money; :eek:

It subscribes to an extreme view of moral relativism in which evil does not exist; :eek:

And it preaches almost word for word some of the more extreme sociological beliefs of the Theosophist movement. If you know the roots and practitioners of Theosophy (e.g. Blatvasky & Alice Bailey of Lucifer/Lucis Trust), you'll know this is noooot good!

The first Zeitgeist movie says that Jesus was a fictional construct and simply a version of a myth that has been told in many cultures and many religions, e.g. Horus, Mithra, Krishna, Dionysus, e.t.c

However most of the sources it uses which can be traced to the original source are all post-Christian dating back to around the 7th century long after the ascension of Christ, and after the New Testament was written and circulated into a lot of areas including some of the regions were these pagan mythologies originated from. So even if one were to give the claims of the movie credence, what it really says about what is derivative of the other is that these pagan mythologies are trying to gain some legitimacy by imitating Christianity and not the other way around.

Bottom-line? It's a deceptive, highly schizophrenic movie.

[qwerty]

ZA makes some good points, but it preaches socialism.

Yes, it does! Thay have even RP on it ;)


People can´t you really understand that you MUST take a look at different kinds of documents to make your own arguments better for example.

If you allways just take a look at the documents you like, you will sound only brainwashed....

:rolleyes:

[qwerty]

Pure propaganda.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/67072

Yeah, even Ron Paul is preaching pure propaganda on that film!

:rolleyes:

[qwerty]

Not so new, but I agree it's a must see. It does a great job of attacking the Fed, and the confessions of the economic hitman was very interesting. I don't agree with their solutions (make it happen on a small scale before anyone can take them seriously), but it was very professionally done and it makes you think. I'm a pretty hardcore Libertarian but hearing different view points is still interesting - for example, I've found several of Michael Moore's documentaries to be worth watching even though I don't agree with his proposals.

So true!

I love to see some really open-minded persons here :)

[LibertyEagle]

Qwerty, a lot of people put 5 seconds of Ron Paul in their film, in order to give it credibility to our audience. It doesn't mean the movie is not a piece of propaganda trash.

[Golding]

People can´t you really understand that you MUST take a look at different kinds of documents to make your own arguments better

If you allways just take a look at the documents you like, you will sound only brainwashed....

Oh, i guess that Ron Paul is also preaching pure marxist propaganda on that film...yeah right...While I agree with this sentiment, I wouldn't necessarily call something with a different outlook a "must see". Calling something a "must see" indicates that it's something I ought to be excited about. The first half of Addendum is a good watch and hits some great points about monetary policy. But then the movie spins out of control into this bizarre one-world idea. As though the solution to a monetary system trending towards one-world dominance is better substituted by... a one-world dominance. It's probably the most shocking plot twist I've ever seen in any movie.

[qwerty]

Qwerty, a lot of people put 5 seconds of Ron Paul in their film, in order to give it credibility to our audience. It doesn't mean the movie is not a piece of propaganda trash.

Hmmm, have you even watched the film...

There are actually lot of good points about monetary policy...

:rolleyes:

[LibertyEagle]

Yes qwerty, I watched it. That's why I know it's packed with propaganda. Yes, there are a few good things, but the agenda of the movie is to encourage one-world government.

BTW, using the :rolleyes: smiley at the end of so many of your posts, just looks like you have sour grapes.

[qwerty]

While I agree with this sentiment, I wouldn't necessarily call something with a different outlook a "must see". Calling something a "must see" indicates that it's something I ought to be excited about.

Yeah i can agree with that...I guess i thought that people would be little more open-minded...





The first half of Addendum is a good watch and hits some great points about monetary policy. But then the movie spins out of control into this bizarre one-world idea. As though the solution to a monetary system trending towards one-world dominance is better substituted by... a one-world dominance. It's probably the most shocking plot twist I've ever seen in any movie.

True...

[qwerty]

Yes qwerty, I watched it. That's why I know it's packed with propaganda. Yes, there are a few good things, but the agenda of the movie is to encourage one-world government.

BTW, using the :rolleyes: smiley at the end of every one of your posts, just looks like you have sour grapes.

Allmost every document is packed with propaganda, but IT DOESN`T MAKE IT A BAD DOCUMENT TO WATCH.

You can USUALLY LEARN FROM THE DOCUMENT EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH IT.

If you look just the documents you love, you will be very bad objector. When you are trying to recruit people for our movement you really MUST BE open to hear also what the opponents are saying. You can never be succesfull if you just talk but never listen. If you don´t let anyone challenge you or your belifs, you will only look like a fundamentalist...

Maybe you now get the point what i´m trying to tell...

[demolama]

There will always be greed and envy. A Cashless society will never work because someone somewhere has something you want. Sure anything that can be man created can be duplicated... but what about something created by mother nature? You own something that was created by mother nature that people consider "pretty" how can you duplicate it?

[LibertyEagle]

Allmost every document is packed with propaganda, but IT DOESN`T MAKE IT A BAD DOCUMENT TO WATCH.

You can USUALLY LEARN FROM THE DOCUMENT EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH IT.

If you look just the documents you love, you will be very bad objector. When you are trying to recruit people for our movement you really MUST BE open to hear also what the opponents are saying. You can never be succesfull if you just talk but never listen. If you don´t let anyone challenge you or your belifs, you will only look like a fundamentalist...

Maybe you now get the point what i´m trying to tell...

Qwerty, I'VE SEEN IT and IT IS A PROPAGANDA PIECE OF TRASH. So no, I'm not going to recommend it to anyone. Especially, someone who doesn't have enough foundation to realize the BS in this documentary is suggesting a very dangerous solution.

Get it?

That's exactly how propaganda works. They put some good information in there to deceive and then fill the rest, especially their "solution", with a bunch of claptrap. And NO, it is not a good thing for people to watch propaganda. Sorry that you hate it, but that's the way it is.

[qwerty]

Qwerty, I'VE SEEN IT and IT IS A PROPAGANDA PIECE OF TRASH. So no, I'm not going to recommend it to anyone. Especially, someone who doesn't have enough foundation to realize the BS in this documentary is suggesting a very dangerous solution.

Get it?

First it´s not pure propaganda like many people have allready said in this thread.

So you think that people in this board don´t have intelligence to separate then truth and bs from that film ?

There are actually LOT OF GOOD KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE MONETARY POLICY, about the fed about debt and that economy hitman thing is also very interesting.


Feel free to have your thoughts, i´m not here to change your views. So i rather continue this conversation with little bit more open-minded people. Who can actually say something else about the film than "IT´S JUST PROPAGANDA", cause that kind of conversation won´t lead anywhere.

I still say you must take a look at the different views to improve your to own view.

[LibertyEagle]

Read again. Everyone agrees it is propaganda, besides you. You don't seem to understand how propaganda is developed and that is what I explained to you.


I still say you must take a look at the different views to improve your to own view.
lol.

For the umpteenth time, I WATCHED IT. That's how I know it is full of BS! And no, it's not a good thing for people to watch who do not have a good foundation; else, they might fall for this one-world claptrap.

[qwerty]

That's exactly how propaganda works. They put some good information in there to deceive and then fill the rest, especially their "solution", with a bunch of claptrap. And NO, it is not a good thing for people to watch propaganda. Sorry that you hate it, but that's the way it is.

OMG...

So just ignoring the enemys propaganda just makes it go away ?

No you must take a look what they are saying then improve your own arguments.

Ignoring won´t do anything good or just telling people that it´s pure proganda. You must be able to tell people also WHY IT`S PROPANGA if you want to be taken seriously...

[qwerty]

Read again. Everyone agrees it is propaganda, besides you. You don't seem to understand how propaganda is developed and that is what I explained to you.

Hmmm...

Like me and others have said there are good things in it. Do i have bring the quotes to you ? :)


lol.

For the umpteenth time, I WATCHED IT. That's how I know it is full of BS! And no, it's not a good thing for people to watch who do not have a good foundation; else, they might fall for this one-world claptrap.

It just isn´t full of bs....You are the pretty much alone claiming that...

[LibertyEagle]

OMG...
http://www.jeboavatars.com/images/avatars/5255594064omg.jpg


So just ignoring the enemys propaganda just makes it go away ?
No, but I damn sure don't recommend it to a bunch of kids who haven't studied enough to have created a good foundation yet.


No you must take a look what they are saying then improve your own arguments.
Our principles weren't established as they were because of some claptrap put out by a bunch of globalist pukes. They were established because they were the recipe for freedom.


Ignoring won´t do anything good or just telling people that it´s pure proganda. You must be able to tell people also WHY IT`S PROPANGA if you want to be taken seriously..
You've already been told in this thread and frankly, this Addendum has been hashed and rehashed in this forum already, multiple times. Do a search and enlighten yourself.

[LibertyEagle]

Hmmm...

Like me and others have said there are good things in it. Do i have bring the quotes to you ? :)

It just isn´t full of bs....You are the pretty much alone claiming that...

Oh really?


ZA makes some good points, but it preaches socialism.


Spot on. The only thing I would say is; it makes no good points.

The only reason, they put some stuff in there that appears "good", is because the most effective propaganda is half truths.

Obvious facts, then mixed in with pure bullshit.




Pure Marxist, New-Age/Theosophist propaganda


The first half of Addendum is a good watch and hits some great points about monetary policy. But then the movie spins out of control into this bizarre one-world idea.

[qwerty]

No, but I damn sure don't recommend it to a bunch of kids who haven't studied enough to have created a good foundation yet.

Have i said you should ?

And if you would do it, you can allways educate them yourself before telling them to watch it.


Our principles weren't established as they were because of some claptrap put out by a buncy of globalist pukes. They were established because they were the recipe for freedom.


you really don´t want to hear what i´m saying...

IF YOU WANT TO CONVINCE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT IDELOGY TO OUR SIDE, YOU MUST TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BELIFS TO IMPROVE YOUR ARGUMENTS AGAINST THEIR ARGUMENTS. JUST TELLING THEM THAT "I HAVE RECIPE FOR FREEDOM" WON´T HELP CONVINCE ANYONE.

LIKE I SAID IF YOU JUST TALK AND DON´T LISTEN WHAT YOUR OPPONENT SAY, YOU LOOK LIKE A FUNDAMENTALIST. AND THAT WON´T DO GOOD FOR OUR CAUSE, THAT´S FOR SURE.


You've already been told in this thread and frankly, this Addendum has been hashed and rehashed in this forum already, multiple times. Do a search and enlighten yourself.

People actually like the part about the monetary policy here...i don´t understand why you fail to see it.

[qwerty]

Oh really?

LOL...You did it yourself :D


ZA makes some good points, but it preaches socialism.

That´s what i said and you didn´t listen...

:D

[LibertyEagle]

Qwerty, you have failed so badly on this that you're running around chasing your tail. Seriously. I'm getting embarrassed for you.

[qwerty]

Qwerty, you have failed so badly on this that you're running around chasing your tail. Seriously. I'm getting embarrassed for you.

Oh, how i knew this was coming. :D

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."

-- Mahatma Gandhi

;)

[LibertyEagle]

No Qwerty, you keep on claiming that red is blue and going around in circles. You claim that I'm the only person that has said this is propaganda, even when shown the proof that what you just said is false.

I don't know what else to say to you, because your argument is not rational.

Carry on.

[qwerty]

No Qwerty, you keep on claiming that red is blue and going around in circles. You claim that I'm the only person that has said this is propaganda, even when shown the proof that what you just said is false.

I don't know what else to say to you, because your argument is not rational.

Carry on.

NO, you said it´s PURE propanda&full of BS which it isn´t...I have only said that there are good info also in that movie like the others have said too.

carry on :)

[Catatonic]

This movie was a huge disappointment to me.

I literally face-palmed.

:(

[Conza88]

This movie was a huge disappointment to me.

I literally face-palmed.

:(

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eDfrMgFQM&eu#t=0m32s) was me. :D

Qwerty, mate - don't make me slam your irrational fallacies into the abbyss where they belong.

Get a grip on reality, get an understanding on Austrian Economics and even then you'll see a fair chunk of even their bits on the FED and monetary policy are WRONG, and FALLACIOUS.

Search: zeitgeist addendum on these forums, and you'll see a myriad of threads, all with insane emotional and irrational comments made by zeitgeist supporters. I suggest you read the threads, because you're making the same flawed arguments. :)

[werdd]

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[Danke]

AJ's review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyQtN4HY4Ko)

and

Another video review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cog_tgBFFXs&feature=related)


and



ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM REJECTED, POINT-BY-POINT
by Daniel Morin (http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNmorinzeitgeist.html)

and

ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM - A CRITICAL REVIEW
© 2008 by G. Edward Griffin (http://www.freedom-force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=zeit_addendum)

[Conza88]

ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM - A CRITICAL REVIEW
© 2008 by G. Edward Griffin. Updated 2008 October 13 (http://www.freedom-force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=zeit_addendum&refpage=issues)

:)

[yoshimaroka]

Zeitgeist Addendum: The Review (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i1JcUBx2dxU)