service is being promoted suddenly

[zach]

There's this site that has been used in a few commercials that I've seen.

The celebrity "pledge" commercial chimed it in, and then Obama has an advertisement promoting the same site. I just saw Obama's yesterday.

I forget what it's called, but why is it being promoted all of a sudden?
I know service is great and all, but I don't understand what's great about that site.

[heavenlyboy34]

There's this site that has been used in a few commercials that I've seen.

The celebrity "pledge" commercial chimed it in, and then Obama has an advertisement promoting the same site. I just saw Obama's yesterday.

I forget what it's called, but why is it being promoted all of a sudden?
I know service is great and all, but I don't understand what's great about that site.

provide a link and I'll be better able to answer this question. :)

[Scofield]

Obama is President, thus Pakistan is on the list of countries to attack.

We do not have the man power to invade another country, thus, we are going to need a draft. By using Celebrities, people are warmed up to the idea of a draft, and thus, it's possible less people will be up in arms when Congress implements the next draft.

All I know is that if a draft is created, god help the individual(s) who tries to enlist me.

[zach]

provide a link and I'll be better able to answer this question. :)

http://usaservice.org/

This is it.

[LittleLightShining]

Found a great quote today that I'm sure you folks will like:

At its first inception all collectivist reform is necessarily deflected, and evolves, in the place of what it had intended, a new thing: a society wherein the owners remain few and wherein the proletarian mass accept a security at the expense of servitude.- Hilaire Belloc

[apropos]

This current idea of government-backed "service" definitely stems from an old, familiar philosophy, and that philosophy goes against basic human nature...that basic nature being that people will take care of their own individual needs long before they tend to the needs of others. Capitalism successfully harnesses these selfish impulses to the benefit of all, while ideologies like socialism and communism have always relied on theories of the "new man", a heretofore unseen and unknown organism that sacrificies readily and wholly to the collective. This new man never arrived, which is why people in North Korea and the former USSR are/were forced to work weekends at the local communal farm hoeing crops for "the common good" on top of their normal jobs.

Presently this talk of service is socialism without claws.

[CurtisLow]

Seen this lol

Starbucks offers free coffee to those who join Obama volunteer corps

http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2009/01/12/daily75.html

[heavenlyboy34]

http://usaservice.org/

This is it.

I've heard commercials for this too. I don't trust it. GWB did commercials for it too, which you may not remember. The tag line went something like "when you serve your neighbor, you serve your country".(spoken by GWB on the ad I heard) :p

Be leery of it, IMHO.

[cindy25]

nothing new, FDR wanted mandatory service for everyone.

but this is dangerous, first they will tie it to student loans, then college admission, then make it 100% mandatory if they could get away with it.

I went to their website, and I don't understand why the military is so poorly paid that care packages are needed. if true that is really pitiful.

[Chosen]

The former Soviet Union used to frame their authoritarian programs in the semantics of service and progress.

[Chosen]

Let's not forget the psychology at play here. The purpose of this service is to create this pseudo humanitarian collective which ostracizes individuality.

[heavenlyboy34]

Let's not forget the psychology at play here. The purpose of this service is to create this pseudo humanitarian collective which ostracizes individuality.

I agree wholly.

[zach]

Let's not forget the psychology at play here. The purpose of this service is to create this pseudo humanitarian collective which ostracizes individuality.

Great summary. :cool:

While the intentions seem well, they can lead way to de-sensitizing what service really is. And well, if you can help a neighbor, can't you help your country?