Neo-Con History Lesson #1

[michaelwise]

Hat tip Geronimo.

I watched all 3 parts, and was amazed at how little I new of the Neo-conservative ideology. A must see if you feel like improving your knowledge.

Part1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177
Part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876
Part3: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254

[Spike Kojima]

Hat tip Geronimo.

I watched all 3 parts, and was amazed at how little I new of the Neo-conservative ideology. A must see if you feel like improving your knowledge.

Part1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177
Part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876
Part3: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254

QFT!

Man , The Power of Nightmares is one of the most eye opening documentarys I have ever seen. We all need to see this.

[mavtek]

I posted this documentary series weeks ago.

[billm317]

I posted this documentary series weeks ago.

Congrats!
We were about to award michaelwise with a trophy, but now we know who the real winner is. Thanks for clearing this up!

[michaelwise]

I posted this documentary series weeks ago. I know I may be the third or forth to post this series, but for newbies and lurkers, it's not a bad idea to put this series up for them to see every now and then. Also promote, Freedom to Fascism, and Money Masters, as learning tools.

[RP4ME]

I am GLAD you posted it - just watched numero uno - im stupified. I have been so played!:eek: Everyone should; watch this - I see Rummy had soem experience going to war under false pretense before....hmmmm

[LibertyEagle]

It's very interesting, but they're giving the old guard One Worlders a complete out. Bill Clinton was no great man. He was a traitor who handed a lot of our secrets to Communist China. Not to mention Ruby Ridge, the Branch Davidians, the drug running at Mena, AK, etc.

This movie also seems to tout people like Zbigniew Brzezinski. He's not a neocon, but he and his buddies, such as Rockefeller, have been all about world government for many years.

[Geronimo]

Hat tip Geronimo.

I watched all 3 parts, and was amazed at how little I new of the Neo-conservative ideology. A must see if you feel like improving your knowledge.

Part1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177
Part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876
Part3: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254

I tip my hat back to you.

America: Freedom to Fascism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173)

Monopoly Men (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7065177340464808778)

and this 15 minute interview with Aaron Russo (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&q=russo+rockefeler&total=77&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2), the creater of Freedom to Fascism are all worth seeing, as well.

[john_anderson_ii]

So real freedom is the illusion of real freedom.....and freedom is not being free -- The Neocon philosophy?

[Geronimo]

Yes, in a nutshell.

[Ridiculous]

You want to know their plan and agenda, check out this guy's book.

HE FUCKING IS A PROFESSOR FOR the U.S. Naval War College

http://www.amazon.com/Pentagons-New-Map-Twenty-first-Century/dp/0425202399/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-6789667-9272905?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189637642&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Action-Future-Worth-Creating/dp/B000SOQDFO/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-6789667-9272905?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189637642&sr=8-2

It sounds like some tin foil hat consperacy shit, but there it is right on Amazon and this guy is paid with your taxes and has the ear of the Pentagon...

From the review:
He advocates creating a new Department of Global Security in the U.S. government, tasked with putting countries back on their feet after an armed intervention by U.S. forces. He says the new department would also work to reduce economic and social instability in "disconnected" regions of the developing world. "It all starts with America and yes, it all starts with security," he writes.

WTF?

[john_anderson_ii]

You want to know their plan and agenda, check out this guy's book.

HE FUCKING IS A PROFESSOR FOR the U.S. Naval War College

http://www.amazon.com/Pentagons-New-Map-Twenty-first-Century/dp/0425202399/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-6789667-9272905?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189637642&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Action-Future-Worth-Creating/dp/B000SOQDFO/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-6789667-9272905?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189637642&sr=8-2

It sounds like some tin foil hat consperacy shit, but there it is right on Amazon and this guy is paid with your taxes and has the ear of the Pentagon...

From the review:
He advocates creating a new Department of Global Security in the U.S. government, tasked with putting countries back on their feet after an armed intervention by U.S. forces. He says the new department would also work to reduce economic and social instability in "disconnected" regions of the developing world. "It all starts with America and yes, it all starts with security," he writes.

WTF?

Besides the obvious, which other politicians prescribe to this philosophy?

[Ridiculous]

Besides the obvious, which other politicians prescribe to this philosophy?

Probably the whole CFR... I guarantee this guy is a member. I'm not a truther or a consperacy theorist, but certain stuff, like this guy's book, is just blatant.

[TheConstitutionLives]

Hat tip Geronimo.

I watched all 3 parts, and was amazed at how little I new of the Neo-conservative ideology. A must see if you feel like improving your knowledge.

Part1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177
Part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876
Part3: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254

That's a great doc right there.

[BuddyRey]

Yet another hearty recommendation for this brilliantly produced and unintentionally chilling documentary.

Also recommended is "With God on Our Side: The Rise of the Religious Right in America", which shows in part how the neocons work in collusion with *certain* elements of the Evangelical Christian community to exploit and brainwash well-meaning people.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7050135304712574299&q=God+on+Our+Side+Rise&total=80&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[michaelwise]

Once you become aware of the kind of manipulation of your mind, that the powers that be have been playing on you all these years, you begin to question almost everything you see on TV. Fortunately, you have the internet to turn to, in order to figure out the true side of the story.

[mconder]

Kissenger is the answer to the Neo-Cons? What a crock!

[LibertyEagle]

Trotsky and his followers believed in waging a permanent revolution - a theme that has certainly been embraced by the administration of George W. Bush. Another key influence on the thinking of neo-conservatives was University of Chicago Professor Leo Strauss, who taught that mankind in general - and Americans in particular - need to be ruled by a managerial elite that can manipulate them through the use of lies and myths. Once again, that approach can be seen in the behavior of the Bush administration.
http://www.jbs.org/node/157


Article: Sorry, Neo-Cons: Reality Isn't Optional

Shulsky, like many other architects of the war, was a disciple of Leo Strauss , a University of Chicago professor of philosophy whose followers embraced the idea that the world should be run by a numinous elite controlling the masses through the use of noble lies and needful deceptions. Strauss peddled a version of gnosticism stressing the concept of hidden, esoteric meanings within various texts " such as Plato's dialogues " which were understandable only to the elect. Straussians in the political realm apply that same conceit to matters of public policy.

In his recent book The Assassins' Gate: America in Iraq, war correspondent George Packer, a self-described liberal supporter of the war, recalls his dealings with Straussian professors as an undergraduate at Yale.

With their awkward social manners and pale cryptic smiles, the Straussians gave off the sense of being the custodians of a secret body of understanding to which only a select few would be admitted, writes Packer. Prominent Straussians in the Bush administration include former undersecretary of defense (and present World Bank chief) Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, the neo- conservative ideologue without portfolio who despite having no official government position essentially created the OSP; according to Packer, all roads from Special Plans lead back to Perle.

OSP director Shulsky believed the writings of his old professor Leo Strauss could be useful antidotes to the narrow-mindedness of the American intelligence community, observes Packer. For narrow-mindedness, we can read: intransigent devotion to objective facts. Strauss's view certainly alerts one to the possibility that political life may be closely linked to deception, wrote Shulsky. Indeed, it suggests that deception is the norm in political life....

For Shulsky, his comrades at OSP, Douglas Feith and William Luti, and the rest of the neo-con nomenklatura, deception was not only a tactical luxury, it was also a positive virtue. Packer compares the neo-con doctrine of virtuous deception to the Muslim concept of taqiya " dissembling in defense of the faith, the sanctioned lying to outsiders that allowed a persecuted religious sect to survive. Taqiya also explained the decoy name and hidden work of the Office of Special Plans, home of that other persecuted sect newly arrived in power, the neoconservatives.

Read the rest here: -- It's interesting.
http://www.jbs.org/node/272