View Full Version : Obama calls for 'new declaration of independence'
Ex Post Facto
01-18-2009, 03:56 AM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/01/61522608/1
"And yet while our problems may be new, what is required to overcome them is not. What is required is the same perseverance and idealism that those first patriots displayed. What is required is a new declaration of independence, not just in our nation, but in our own lives -- from ideology and small thinking, prejudice and bigotry -- an appeal not to our easy instincts but to our better angels."
Full speech: http://i.usatoday.net/news/TheOval/Obama-in-Baltimore-1-17-2009.pdf
He is using dangerous language here. I get what he is saying that we need a new way to run our lives, a different focus, but the wording here is scary. Kind of like his speech where he stated: "We need a citizen national security force."
Does anyone but his supporters actually buy this garbage? He comes off like a pompous idiot to me. If he wants to "heal the nation" maybe he can try getting rid of the big government that has long been a roadblock to peace and prosperity instead of empire and debt.
I agree with you about the citizen force they have cooking up, I'd like to believe there would be enough resistance to it but who knows. I just don't get how people can sit there and watch their liberties being taken away increment-by-increment. I'm sure that's how they'll go about implementing Obama's terrifying agenda...slowly buy surely.
werdd
01-18-2009, 07:57 AM
He is using dangerous language here. I get what he is saying that we need a new way to run our lives, a different focus, but the wording here is scary. Kind of like his speech where he stated: "We need a citizen national security force."
I literally started to cringe when he said that. Especially when he was talking about the revolutionaries, who were fighting an overly opressive goverment.
paulitics
01-18-2009, 08:44 AM
I hear alot of this "new way of thinking", and make "personal sacrafices" stuff from him and Biden. I know what this entails, and it is indeed a very old system that he wants us to embrace.
james1906
01-18-2009, 09:11 AM
If prejudice and bigotry were an issue, he would not have been elected. I'm worried that he's going to make this about having a sense of national identity. Therefore, if you oppose amnesty, open borders, and multi-national agreements, you are a racist.
UtahApocalypse
01-18-2009, 12:07 PM
How about we start by trying to follow the original one and the Constitution first. Its not broken, just ignored.
Spike
01-18-2009, 12:13 PM
If this new 'declaration of independence' does not separate America from Israel and make America truly independent than its just hollow words coming from the hollow mouth of a hollow president.
torchbearer
01-18-2009, 12:21 PM
I don't see how he will make it through the first 4 years alive...
ClayTrainor
01-18-2009, 12:25 PM
I don't see how he will make it through the first 4 years alive...
I hope you're wrong.
If somehow Obama is assassinated or something like that, Liberty will be even less attainable.
Minlawc
01-18-2009, 01:49 PM
from ideology
What is this supposed to mean? We have to give up Religion? The idea of Freedom? To stop thinking and do everything for the good of "Society" by doing whatever he says?!
This is ridiculous!
gaazn
01-18-2009, 02:26 PM
Most people want the government to respond quickly to every little thing. Like hurricanes, natural disasters, foreign policy threats, financial turnoil. That's why everything now is labels a "crisis" which the government must act upon.
We're the oddballs who do not believe any of this. That's why we will be the first ones rounded up.
Did anyone see Henry Kissenger January 5, 2009
Listen closely at 2:43.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThfWVCfjVo
pebcak
01-18-2009, 07:21 PM
What is this supposed to mean? We have to give up Religion? The idea of Freedom? To stop thinking and do everything for the good of "Society" by doing whatever he says?!
This is ridiculous!
That was my thought as well. What does he mean by ideology? Does that mean my ideology of freedom?
BlackTerrel
01-18-2009, 10:20 PM
I don't see how he will make it through the first 4 years alive...
I sincerely doubt this will happen. You think no crazies want to kill Bush? I'm sure security is good, although anything is possible.
I hope for all our sakes you are wrong. If he's assassinated this country will go up in flames.
torchbearer
01-18-2009, 10:28 PM
I sincerely doubt this will happen. You think no crazies want to kill Bush? I'm sure security is good, although anything is possible.
I hope for all our sakes you are wrong. If he's assassinated this country will go up in flames.
I hope he doesn't visit Cali.
blocks
01-18-2009, 10:38 PM
I hope he doesn't visit Cali.
:confused:
Why California?
torchbearer
01-18-2009, 10:47 PM
:confused:
Why California?
NO more... "wake up! wake up! Its the first of the month!"
MGreen
01-18-2009, 11:13 PM
I wonder if Obama was always like this, or if he has just recently begun to believe in his own hype. He's completely bought the messianic image attributed to him.
Andrew-Austin
01-18-2009, 11:14 PM
A Declaration of Dependence, sounds more up his alley. Dependence upon government, UN, etc.
Agent CSL
01-18-2009, 11:40 PM
I agree that we need a new declaration of independence, but not from him. :) This is somewhat taken out of context, too. He was quoting Lincoln.
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