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dude58677
09-11-2007, 06:30 PM
30 years ago today President Nixon and Secretary of State National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger helped orchestrate the coup that put General Augusto Pinochet in power and President Allende dead. Pinochet would go on to kill at least 3,000 Chileans over the next 17 years.
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We turn now to another September 11: September 11, 1973.
30 years ago today, the democratically elected President of Chile Salvador Allende was overthrown and died in a bloody CIA backed military coup led by General Augusto Pinochet.

Pinochet oversaw the killing of at least 3,000 Chileans during a brutal 17-year military reign, which lasted until 1990.

The coup was backed by then-President Nixon and Secretary of State National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger. Salvador Allende was honored yesterday in a ceremony at the palace were he died 30 years ago.

In 1998, Pinochet was arrested in London on torture and genocide charges on a warrant issued by a Spanish judge. British authorities later released Pinochet after doctors ruled him physically and mentally unfit to stand trial.

This past August, current Chilean president Ricardo Lagos announced a plan to pay compensation to thousands of families who had relatives killed during Pinochet’s military regime.


Vladimir Vega, refugee from Chile living in London. He spent five years in prison and left the country as soon as he was released in May, 1978.
Peter Kornbluh, he is the author of The Pinochet File: A Declassified Dossier on Atrocity and Accountability. He is a senior analyst at the National Security Archive, a public-interest documentation center in Washington.

ctb619
09-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Yes, but who says Allende would have been any better? He has been accused of killing his political opponents as well. It has been said that Allende was planning a massive purge after the elections, and shipments of arms from Cuba were cited as evidence.

I have yet to make up my mind on this, but it isn't black and white.

dude58677
09-11-2007, 06:42 PM
Yes, but who says Allende would have been any better? He has been accused of killing his political opponents as well. It has been said that Allende was planning a massive purge after the elections, and shipments of arms from Cuba were cited as evidence.

I have yet to make up my mind on this, but it isn't black and white.

Your missing the point. It is no coincidence that Al-Qaeda chose "Sept 11" on the day to attack America and that overthrow of Chile is the reason.

ctb619
09-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Your missing the point. It is no coincidence that Al-Qaeda chose "Sept 11" on the day to attack America and that overthrow of Chile is the reason.

You think so? Why would they want us to remember the overthrow of Allende?

dude58677
09-11-2007, 06:50 PM
You think so? Why would they want us to remember the overthrow of Allende?

It was to demonstrate their hatred of the history of American Foreign Policy. They didn't care for Allende, it was that they despised that the CIA was involved in the military takeover.

ctb619
09-11-2007, 06:54 PM
It was to demonstrate their hatred of the history of American Foreign Policy.

I'm not trying to dismiss your theory, I just haven't heard it. Is this just speculation? Because I thought the date may have been more related to the Muslim defeat at Vienna on September 11, 1683.

dude58677
09-11-2007, 06:58 PM
I'm not trying to dismiss your theory, I just haven't heard it. Is this just speculation? Because I thought the date may have been more related to the Muslim defeat at Vienna on September 11, 1683.

Then it could be both. Remember Timothy McVeigh attacked on April 19, 1995. the WACO inferno took place on this date two years before and the Battles of Lexington and Concorde took place on April 19,1775. Both 1775 and 1993 were the reason McVeigh attacked Oaklahoma City.

The Veinna incident had nothing to do with the United States, but it did have to do with Islam. Sept 1973 directly had to do with American Foreign Policy.


Here is another link on the issue of Sept 11,1973:

http://www.counterpunch.org/burbach09112003.html



The Great Divide
State Terrorism and September 11, 1973 & 2001
By ROGER BURBACH

On the morning of September 11, I watched aircraft flying overhead. Minutes later I heard explosive sounds and saw fireballs of smoke fill the sky. As a result of these attacks thousands died, including two good friends of mine.

I am not writing about September 11 2001 in New York City. On that date I was thousands of miles away in Berkeley, California. I am writing about another September 11, equally horrible, that occurred in 1973 when I was living in Santiago, Chile. On that date I indeed saw planes flying overhead. They were warplanes and their target was the presidential palace in Santiago. Remarkably, these two September 11's are related in a number of ways, and both dates help us understand why George W. Bush has lead the United States into a quagmire in Iraq. On September 11, 1973 Salvador Allende resided in the Chilean presidential palace. He was the first freely elected socialist leader in the world and ever since his electoral victory in September 1970, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the US government headed by Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger who chaired the National Security Council were determined to overthrow Allende and his Popular Unity coalition.

It was on September 11, 1973 that they finally succeeded. Lead by General Augusto Pinochet, the Chilean military overthrew Allende who died in the presidential palace. Over three thousand people perished in the bloody repression that followed under Pinochet's rule, including two American friends of mine, Charles Horman and Frank Terrugi.

Prior to the attack on the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 the most sensational foreign-lead terrorist action in the capitol had been carried out by a team of operatives sent by the Pinochet regime. On September 21, 1976, agents of the Chilean secret police organization, DINA, detonated a car bomb just blocks from the White House, killing a leading opponent of Pinochet's, Orlando Letelier, and his assistant Ronni Moffitt. Letelier, whom I spoke to at the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington D.C. before his death, was a man deeply committed to democracy and a more humane world who had served at the highest levels of the Allende government. These assassinations were linked to the first international terrorist network in the Western Hemisphere, known as Operation Condor. Begun in 1974 at the instigation of the Chilean secret police, Operation Condor was a sinister cabal comprised of the intelligence services of at least six South American countries that collaborated in tracking, kidnapping and assassinating political opponents. Based on documents divulged under the Chile Declassification Project of the Clinton administration, it is now recognized that the CIA knew about these international terrorist activities and may have even abetted them. After the murders of Letelier-Moffitt in Washington D.C., the CIA appears to have concluded that Condor was a rogue operation and may have tried to contain its activities. However, the network of Southern Cone military and intelligence operations continued to act throughout Latin America at least until the early 1980s. Chilean and Argentine military units assisted the dictator Anastasio Somoza in Nicaragua and helped set up death squads in El Salvador. Argentine units also aided and supervised Honduran military death squads that began operating in the early 1980s with the direct assistance and collaboration the CIA.

Locke_rpr
09-11-2007, 10:16 PM
Hey, while we're throwing out Sept. 11 references, let's not forget George H.W. Bush gave his infamous "New World Order" speech on Sept. 11, 1990.

... and no I don't have a tin foil hat.... mine is polished billet.

lucius
09-12-2007, 02:51 AM
‘What has been handed down’ throughout history, September 11 is a very pertinent/powerful date, perhaps more than a millennium before Al-Qaeda; it is interesting that you have recognized such a trend. Many Masons would be able to identify this numerology.

ctb619
09-12-2007, 02:56 AM
‘What has been handed down’ throughout history, September 11 is a very pertinent/powerful date, perhaps more than a millennium before Al-Qaeda; it is interesting that you have recognized such a trend. Many Masons would be able to identify this numerology.

huh?

MicroBalrog
09-12-2007, 03:27 AM
Yes, but who says Allende would have been any better? He has been accused of killing his political opponents as well.

From Wiki:

"Among other things, Allende was accused of disregarding the courts, attempting to restrict freedom of speech, and supporting unauthorized seizures of farms and private industry for the purpose of establishing state control of the economy."

I don't think any of the people who think Allende was a nice, 'democratic' guy, would have put up with this sort of stuff in America.

Brad Zink
09-12-2007, 06:05 AM
John Pilger recently released a documentary about the CIA interventions in Latin America called "The War on Democracy." It is certainly from a different perspective from what you would normally see on American television.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148

SpicyItalian739
09-12-2007, 06:23 AM
I just posted a blog yesterday about all of the blind 'patriotism' and such yesterday on myspace and spelled out our entire history in the middle east over the past 55 years.

At any rate, while I was doing my research, it was interesting to note several time frames. We bolstered Iraq against Iran in the Iran-Iraq War about a year after our hostages were returned from Iran.

When the Iran-Iraq war ended, Iraq owed Kuwait over $14 billion in USD they borrowed to fight Iran and we all now know the famous blunder of one of our diplomats telling Iraq that "the US has no concern in Arab-Arab affairs," which Saddam took as a green-light to invade Kuwait.

Even stranger still was that, less than 18 months after the Iran-Iraq War had ended, G. H. W. Bush went before the American people *on September 11th, 1990* and asserted that:

****** "Within 3 days, 120,000 Iraqi troops with 850 tanks had poured into Kuwait and moved south to threaten Saudi Arabia. It was then that I decided to act to check that aggression." ******

Notice the date of 9/11/1990 and the assertion that we were protecting our oil interests in Saudi Arabia - one of the motivating factors of the 9/11/01 attacks 11 years later. Could this be the reason that Bin Laden chose that arbitrary date for the attacks? Who knows how he operates... sorry this is a bit off topic for a first post but I just find some of these dates coincidental and interesting. :cool: