Ron Paul on the John Ziegler show TONIGHT. KFI 640AM - Los Angeles.

[Lord Xar]

John Ziegler show on KFI (http://kfi640.com/main.html) TODAY in the 7PM hour (Pacific Time), on KFI 640 AM in Los Angeles.

Find out if there is are any affiliates in your area.

[Stealth4]

Man he is keeping himself busy. Go Dr. Paul!

[ghemminger]

Yeah - Thats guy who screams a lot - he seems like a pretty cool guy through not a right wing nut job.

[MozoVote]

MrChubbs just tested streaming KFI into PalTalk - we're good.

http://chat.paltalk.com/g2/group/1127127948/

[hambone1982]

Ziegler used to be a good libertarian, but now he's a pro-war neocon, IMO.

[TheMikael]

Show is on!!
Ron is going to be on later in the hour. :)

[chiefsmurph]

Now that was a lot of commercials.

[lorindon]

Listening to this guy is killing me.

[james1906]

Ziegler used to be a good libertarian, but now he's a pro-war neocon, IMO.

agreed

[slantedview]

suweeeeet. tnx.

[TheMikael]

C+, how bout an F

[chiefsmurph]

How is it that support for being in Iraq is so low but all these media guys are pro-war?

[james1906]

C+, how bout an F

Ziegler is to neocon what Larry Craig is to gay. He's totally there, but won't admit it.

[TheMikael]

Ziegler is to neocon what Larry Craig is to gay. He's totally there, but won't admit it.
Agree. His "more libertarian than conservative..." intro drives me crazy every time I hear it.

I used to listen to him quite habitually, but as I became more aware (Ron Paul ,Liberty/Freedom) I stopped listening as much.
I still listen sometimes because he does have it right on some issues.

[nyjohn]

I give this guy an F

[chiefsmurph]

couldn't agree more

[themanhere]

My ears are bleeding this show is all over the place.

[TheMikael]

HA hardly more libertarian than conservative :rolleyes:

[lorindon]

Ron Paul is on NOW!

[ghemminger]

Ron Paul Is On Baby!

[themanhere]

Hes On!

[MozoVote]

Live Now. Go RP!

[hopeforamerica]

Unpredictable?! WTF? This guy does not know anything.

[slantedview]

So this guy is saying he's a libertarian eh?

[themanhere]

unpredictable? NO! Bush is unpredictable. He wouldnt support RP?

[ctb619]

someone give us a play-by-play!

[hopeforamerica]

This guy is an idiot! He just not get it!

[nyjohn]

This guy is RIDICULOUS

He claims to be a libertarian but calls RP unpredictable when he explains PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS....

[chiefsmurph]

who does this guy think he is?

[themanhere]

hes talking about saddam invading kuwait trying to say thats the reason we went into Iraq YEARS later.

[slantedview]

hahah. this guy is a douche. i'd give a play by play but it's too painful. you can stream the audio live from the radio station's website in the first post.

[hopeforamerica]

He just implied the constitution is a technicality.:mad:

[slantedview]

Declaring war is a "technicality". Following the law is a "technicality".

This guy is a loser.

[TheMikael]

I find it funny how Ziegler is using the UN to defend his arguement.

[Scott K]

He sounds like Bill O

[ButchHowdy]

How come nobody brings up Kuwait's cross-drilling into (and under) Iraq?

[slantedview]

Paul called him out as being not in agreement with our Constitution.

[themanhere]

Ron Paul just smacked his ass down with the constitution.

[chiefsmurph]

I'm sending this douche an email...talktozig@aol.com.

[rpliving]

This host is getting owned. Ron Paul at his best.

[hopeforamerica]

He want to interupt so bad! Ron is doing well. This guy sucks big time. He's getting loud now.

[TheMikael]

Smackdown!!!!

[themanhere]

Johns saying protecting oil over seas is in our interest. So hes saying its ok to risk our brave men and womens life over oil!

Hes talking about saudi arabia.

[JPFromTally]

RP's kicking this guy's ass. The price of oil is dictated by the futures market which is highly reactive to geo-political events - like U.S. military intervention.

[RonPaulCult]

He Is Kicking Such Ass!!!!!!!!!!!

[nyjohn]

Ron's doing great

[hopeforamerica]

I heart Ron Paul!!

[lorindon]

Woot!@ commercials

[edmnn]

wow..hes on FIRE today, hopefully theres a big audience listening in

[chiefsmurph]

Now theres the Ron I love! Keep it coming. Maybe this calm RP is for the best. Am I the only one who thought he sounded sorda tired early on?

[ghemminger]

OWENAGE!!!!! "i won you over" RP

[RonPaulCult]

Ron Paul is already my president

[enter`name`here]

anyone record it?

[hopeforamerica]

Now theres the Ron I love! Keep it coming. Maybe this calm RP is for the best. Am I the only one who thought he sounded sorda tired early on?

With his schedule I'd be exhausted and I'm no where near 72 years old.

[TheMikael]

Now theres the Ron I love! Keep it coming. Maybe this calm RP is for the best. Am I the only one who thought he sounded sorda tired early on?
No, I thought the same. But now he is ON!! :cool:

[TheConstitutionLives]

good interview so far

[ButchHowdy]

"I've won you over" LOL!!

O'Reilly was a good vaccine for this interview!

[themanhere]

Ron Paul needs to call him out on that about protecting Saudis and Kuwaits Oil. He should have said "so you think its ok to risk our men and women lives for oil?"

Hes kicking ass though!

[RonPaulCult]

Ron Paul needs to call him out on that about protecting Saudis and Kuwaits Oil. He should have said "so you think its ok to risk our men and women lives oversea for oil?"

Hes kicking ass though!

Oh good point

[TheMikael]

It would be nice if Paul would get the chance to talk about economic issues in these interviews, but probably not.

[chiefsmurph]

I can't beleive more people don't support his anti-war message. I have been running into so many people who love his limited government and other principles, but can't get over the "out of Iraq now."

[0zzy]

He is definitly kicking ass. At least this host is no O'Reily. He doesn't know that when Ron Paul speaks, he wins people over. His words is his secrete weapon, his WMDs if you will.

[JPFromTally]

It boggles my mind how anybody can call themselves libertarian and be for the war.

Libertarians are critical of any government boondoggle because we know that government is inneficient. Iraq is the biggest boondoggle in the history of boondoggles.

[bobmurph]

I hope someone is recording this...

[chiefsmurph]

so where am I wrong?

JZ


-----Original Message-----
From: chiefsmurph@comcast.net
To: talktozig@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 7:48 pm
Subject: Libertarian...Yea Right!


You call yourself a libertarian? You're knowledge of Iraq is pathetic. And don't call the consitution a technicality!

Get the facts straight,

John Murphy


What do I say??? I need something good.

[slantedview]

Jeez, waste of time with this 9/11 conspiracy question.

[chiefsmurph]

I can't beleive he responded so quickly.

[slantedview]

PWNED. This guy is the oddest "libertarian" i've ever come across.

[slantedview]

He just implied that Dr. Paul is ignorant about islamic Faciscm. LOL.

[hopeforamerica]

I can't take much more of this! This guy is so ignorant.

[quickmike]

PWNED. This guy is the oddest "libertarian" i've ever come across.

There are alot of people that are using the Libertarian badge yet are nothing close to being libertarian. Its just the "hip" thing to call yourself lately.

[themanhere]

HE thinks Iraq is the Terrorist main head quarters or something thats why we cant leave Iraq. what a fucking idiot.

[lorindon]

Ron Paul at his best! I'm loving' this interview.

[slantedview]

I think this is pretty fun to listen to. The guy is incredibly ignorant, confused (about libertarianism) and out of his league.

[ghemminger]

This guy is the TYPICAL hard Headed chicken hawk,,,,

[RonPaulCult]

LA is the second richest city in the country. There are people all over SoCal listening to this right now and he is reaching them. And will reach their pocketbooks also.

I AM LOVING THIS!

[ghemminger]

IF we can convert this guy - we have this election

[edmnn]

ehh...that segment wasn't great, host says obama said he wants us to leave, ron says obama said he wants us to stay..sigh no wonder us americans are so confused

[hopeforamerica]

HE thinks Iraq is the Terrorist main head quarters or something thats why we cant leave Iraq. what a fucking idiot.

Unfortunately, a lot of people believe this. Including my immediate family.

[ghemminger]

LA is the second richest city in the country. There are people all over SoCal listening to this right now and he is reaching them. And will reach their pocketbooks also.

I AM LOVING THIS!

Didn't think of that WHOOOAHHHH!!!!

[slantedview]

IF we can convert this guy - we have this election
Unfortunately, I think this guy is too confused to be converted.

[themanhere]

This interview is giving me a rongasm. Ron Paul is kicking ass but i think he should go on offense more.

[hopeforamerica]

This interview is giving me a rongasm. Ron Paul is kicking ass but i think he should go on offense more.

LOL!!!

[slantedview]

I liked Ron pointing out that we didn't declare war against Timothy McVeigh. True, he probably wasn't part of a network, but "Al Quaida" is barely a network anyways.

[chiefsmurph]

I gave him a nice reply:

So now you are using questions from the debate. Pretty low.

Don't put down Dr. Paul's intelligence. Notice that little thing before his name? I think he may know a little more than you.

What this debate says: Knowledge comes off stronger than ignorance.

John

I hope I didn't just rush that off to quickly. I'll tell you what he says to that.

[lorindon]

I gave him a nice reply:

So now you are using questions from the debate. Pretty low.

Don't put down Dr. Paul's intelligence. Notice that little thing before his name? I think he may know a little more than you.

What this debate says: Knowledge comes off stronger than ignorance.

John

I hope I didn't just rush that off to quickly. I'll tell you what he says to that.

Don't forget that this guy supports Ron on just about every issue other than the war. All we have to do is re-educate him on foreign policy and we'll have another happy Paulitician in no time.

[torchbearer]

is there a podcast or mp3 of the stream?

[slantedview]

Don't forget that this guy supports Ron on just about every issue other than the war. All we have to do is re-educate him on foreign policy and we'll have another happy Paulitician in no time.
Yeah, but the war is a vote breaker for him, as he said. It's such a key issue for many...

[slantedview]

Again, declaring war is a technicality. Great.

[torchbearer]

Again, declaring war is a technicality. Great.

Yup, I guess the law is just a technicality too.

[slantedview]

This guy is making an argument for us staying in Iraq because Bin Laden praised Al-Zarqawi (who is dead, if you're keeping score), indicating that Al Quaida is in Iraq.

Sounds like Bin Laden is calling the shots, eh? Wonder when Bin Laden will let our boys come home.

[hopeforamerica]

He's getting a good amount of time to expand upon his views.

[SWATH]

Yeah declaring war is now a technicality just like getting a warrant is now a technicality.

[hopeforamerica]

Oh yea, the Patriot Act is keeping us safe. Ugh!!!

[slantedview]

News alert:

It's easier for Al Quaida to kill Americans on American soil than over on Iraqi soil.

End news flash.

[Mr. White]

News alert:

It's easier for Al Quaida to kill Americans on American soil than over on Iraqi soil.

End news flash.

But that's thanks to the patriot act... smirk.

[slantedview]

This is turning into a Ron Paul speech! Excellent!!

[hambone1982]

Go Ron Go!

[Mr. White]

oh shit THAT'S a soundbite

'Americans are so gung-ho about killing everybody"

[themanhere]

He thinks is ok to send troops to protect oil and then goes after Ron for saying THEY should higher secuirty guards.

[hopeforamerica]

don't do well in "real' polls!

[slantedview]

GO RON!!! He's KILLIN IT!@

[hopeforamerica]

"I'll be in charge tommorrow" Love him!!

[lorindon]

WOoOoO! What a great interview, and some great exposure!

[AdamT]

Host = sucks

[edmnn]

great interview..host was a little annoying at times but i just think he just needs to be schooled a little more

[slantedview]

I think that went excellent! The interviewer was whacky but Ron took the floor and had plenty of time to spread his message, especially at the end.

Go RON!

[ghemminger]

He Killed It At The End! Awesome!!!!!

[Mr. White]

"Americans are so gung-ho about killing everybody"

Why do I have a feeling we'll see that one again...

[RonPaulCult]

Ron Paul makes my heart melt

[ghemminger]

This interview is giving me a rongasm. Ron Paul is kicking ass but i think he should go on offense more.

LOL Rongasm!!!

[wolv275]

Zigler is a 90% Closet supporter, he just thinks 50 soudis 5k miles away have the power to make us shake in our boots.... lame

[slantedview]

Ron Paul makes my heart melt

:)

[slantedview]

Zigler is a 90% Closet supporter, he just thinks 50 soudis 5k miles away have the power to make us shake in our boots.... lame

You know, I might have to agree about him being a closet supporter. It wouldn't surprise me.

[AdamT]

"Americans are so gung-ho about killing everybody"

Why do I have a feeling we'll see that one again...

Faux News will be creaming when they hear that one.

[ButchHowdy]

Faux News will be creaming when they hear that one.

Truth hurts!

[RonPaulCult]

And following Ron Paul tonight is a racist (I am assuming based on the title of his book)

[quickmike]

mp3?

[ghemminger]

American Ultimate power comes Ultimate Responsibility unfortunatly we have Untimate Corruption of power

[remaxjon]

mp3?

2nd that

[hambone1982]

That was the best single interview with a hostile host that I've ever heard. That one has some great new RP quotes. Somebody get me that MP3.

[0zzy]

That was the best single interview with a hostile host that I've ever heard. That one has some great new RP quotes. Somebody get me that MP3.

Agreed.

[freedominnumbers]

I recorded it but my Audacity crashed right when I went to save :( now it's all garbled garbage.

[hopeforamerica]

I recorded it but my Audacity crashed right when I went to save :( now it's all garbled garbage.

I would be crying right now :(

[quickmike]

I recorded it but my Audacity crashed right when I went to save :( now it's all garbled garbage.

Maybe you should pass that excuse on to Ziegler since hes probably looking for one right about now from the sound of it.:D

[ctb619]

That was the best single interview with a hostile host that I've ever heard. That one has some great new RP quotes. Somebody get me that MP3.

If you really support Dr. Paul you'll find me the mp3.

[EvilTwinkie]

Any kind soul got/made one?

[Hamburglar]

mp3?

2nd that

3rd'd

[chiefsmurph]

It will be on their podcast tomorrow.

[AlexAmore]

Woot! :D Here it is! Enjoy!


http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast.html (http://ronpaulsupporters.justgotowned.com/)

[Hamburglar]

Woot! :D Here it is! Enjoy!


http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast.html (http://ronpaulsupporters.justgotowned.com/)

Punk kids!!! Why I oughtta!!

[jpa]

Woot! :D Here it is! Enjoy!


http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast.html

lol

[ctb619]

Woot! :D Here it is! Enjoy!


http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast.html (http://ronpaulsupporters.justgotowned.com/)

thanks for getting my hopes up...I hate you

[richard1984]

thanks for getting my hopes up...I hate you

I 2nd that. :p


But no, seriously...I want the mp3 now!! :(


;)

[jpa]

Ron Paul Audio has it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3phqnjgxg)

[MusoSpuso]

hooooooo boy, here we go again. The comedians (bad) come out of the wood work :rolleyes:

[jpa]

Im just passing the time until someone posts it :-)

[Hamburglar]

Ron Paul Audio has it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3phqnjgxg)

Doh! Not again:(. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

[TheMikael]

It should be up on the podcast feed tomorrow.

[freedominnumbers]

I attempted recovery. It's thouroughly borked though. Oh well...

[jpa]

thats too far away.

[quickmike]

Im going to listen to it tonight by god!!! If I have to go down to Zieglers station and put him in a headlock and have him recite the whole thing all over again Ill do it.

[dt_]

oh shit THAT'S a soundbite

'Americans are so gung-ho about killing everybody"


I missed the interview.
Who said this? Ron or Ziegler? and in what context?

[edmnn]

I missed the interview.
Who said this? Ron or Ziegler?

ron did

[dt_]

that sounds horrible, why would you want to denounce your own country as people 'killing everybody' if you're running for president? -_-

[edmnn]

that sounds horrible, why would you want to denounce your own country as people 'killing everybody' if you're running for president? -_-

in the interview the main topic was about the war, of course ron was against it and was just giving point after point of why we shouldn't be in iraq. it was apparent that ron meant it is those people that want more war and for us to stay in iraq that are so "gung ho about killing everybody"

[ape]

RP sure did put an ass whoopin on that host.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Ziegler used to be a good libertarian, but now he's a pro-war neocon, IMO.

aren't pro war libertarians called neo-libertarians?

How can I listen to it?

[ctb619]

aren't pro war libertarians called neo-libertarians?

How can I listen to it?

You can't until KFI posts the podcast tomorrow

[randolphus maximus]

Here's the link:

http://2005.kfi640.com/pages/JohnZiegler.html?feed=127993&article=457655

[Hamburglar]

Finally someone youtube'd it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

[james1906]

........and now all of America knows about John Ziegler, let self-proclaimed libertarian who is even less libertarian than Bill Maher.

[Grandson of Liberty]

Haven't listened yet- did he get a chance to talk about anything besides the war?

[ctb619]

Here's the link:

http://2005.kfi640.com/pages/JohnZiegler.html?feed=127993&article=457655

NICE!!!

[randolphus maximus]

I just finished listening to it. Ron Paul did very well. I actually like it when people challenge Dr. Paul on his positions. It makes for better radio. Let's face it, when allowed to answer, he makes sense.

Link for the Ziegler interview with Ron Paul is here:

http://2005.kfi640.com/pages/JohnZie...article=457655

[SAVEamerica]

what kind of libertarian supports the patriot act? that guy is an faker. :rolleyes:

[Tuck]

It sounds like the neocons got to Ziegler, he really sounded like he was afraid of anyone who is muslim and thinks the only way to deal with terrorists is to invade each middle eastern country one by one.

[BenIsForRon]

Wow, I have a headache now. I'm imagining this will be the kind of argument you see from Fred Thompson. Totally irrational, fear-based arguments. According to this radio host we never make mistakes and we have infinite resources... as do the terrorists I guess since they will bomb all of our malls the second we leave Iraq.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

do you notice the difference in how Ron Paul talks when he thinks its a libertarian crowd? ;) I like this better.

[AlexAmore]

Wow I have never heard such blatant circular logic from someone. You would hear it more from O'reilly and Hannity but they never let people talk so they don't need to try and use their brain much. Ziegler let Ron Paul talk and he (Ziegler) had to resort to some really shitty arguments. Ziegler often said "I agree with that" and so it made it even harder for him to argue with any sort of logic when it came to his scare tactic BS arguments.

I loved it! :D

[dmitchell]

do you notice the difference in how Ron Paul talks when he thinks its a libertarian crowd? ;) I like this better.
Firstly, great interview. Secondly, good observation. It seems that here Paul isn't so guarded and speaks frankly. When debating simpletons like Hannity and Giuliani, Paul must walk on eggshells to avoid ad hominem accusations of being un-American and unpatriotic.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Firstly, great interview. Secondly, good observation. It seems that here Paul isn't so guarded and speaks frankly. When debating simpletons like Hannity and Giuliani, Paul must walk on eggshells to avoid ad hominem accusations of being un-American and unpatriotic.

Thanks. I just notice that he seems more comfortable among people that say they're libertarian.

[Hamburglar]

Wow, I have a headache now. I'm imagining this will be the kind of argument you see from Fred Thompson. Totally irrational, fear-based arguments. According to this radio host we never make mistakes and we have infinite resources... as do the terrorists I guess since they will bomb all of our malls the second we leave Iraq.

The guys at Fred Thompson (http://fredthompsonforum.com) forums aren't going to like this, they take their arguements and rationality very seriously over there.

[literatim]

This idiot, John Ziegler, thinks he is a libertarian, haha.

[Paulitician]

That kid got schooled.