God says U.S. will accept socialism...

[IPSecure]

Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, announced at his staff's annual prayer retreat that God told him Americans would embrace socialism in 2009 "in order to relieve their pain" and that the economy would rebound under an Obama administration.

"The Lord said the economy of your nation will recover," Robertson told a group assembled at Founders Inn on the campus of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va., a university Robertson founded.

Robertson said God also declared, "The steps taken will lead to a dramatic increase in the power of government. The people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the '30s."

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85243

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5VrJmgzItM&fmt=18

[LibertyEagle]

Robertson is a major tool. :mad:

[danberkeley]

How low does your IQ have to be to believe his BS?

[WRellim]

This is actually a hopeful sign. Since virtually every single "prophecy" that this idiot Robertson has made has been proven completely wrong that means:

1) The nation might actually reject socialism.

2) We're in for a long depression as the economy does NOT recover.

3) Government power might actually decrease.

4) LOTS of things will probably stand in the way of a new "new deal."


Thanks Pat!

[IPSecure]

How low does your IQ have to be to believe his BS?

What's the average IQ for the sheeple?

Preparing the flock... Look at his 'predictions' for last year... propaganda... inside knowledge... ARGHH!!!

[orafi]

This is actually a hopeful sign. Since virtually every single "prophecy" that this idiot Robertson has made has been proven completely wrong that means:

1) The nation might actually reject socialism.

2) We're in for a long depression as the economy does NOT recover.


4) LOTS of things will probably stand in the way of a new "new deal."


Thanks Pat!


3) Government will vanish

[torchbearer]

Does he have a recording of God saying this... or is it that voice in Robertson's head that said this???

[Danke]

Does he have a recording of God saying this... or is it that voice in Robertson's head that said this???

You Tube or it didn't...

[danberkeley]

Does he have a recording of God saying this... or is it that voice in Robertson's head that said this???

I think the interviewer said that Robertson went off into a mountain to talk to God.

[Truth Warrior]

Hunh, so do the atheists. What are the odds? :rolleyes:

"Socialism in America will come through the ballot box."
by: Gus Hall
[Arvo Gustav Halberg ] (1910-2000) leader of the Communist Party USA and its four-time U.S. presidential candidate
Source: in an interview with the Cleveland Plain-Dealer (1996)

[heavenlyboy34]

I think Yeshua would be none too pleased with Robertson. :p

[driller80545]

I don't think Robertson would recognize God if he walked right up and slapped him. If he did recognize him, he would immediately know that he was in deep shit.

[heavenlyboy34]

Hunh, so do the atheists. What are the odds? :rolleyes:

"Socialism in America will come through the ballot box."
by: Gus Hall
[Arvo Gustav Halberg ] (1910-2000) leader of the Communist Party USA and its four-time U.S. presidential candidate
Source: in an interview with the Cleveland Plain-Dealer (1996)

lol ;)

[zach]

Well, from my personal talks with God, he says to me that I am quite attractive for a human being.

Then again, I could be spewing BS from my mouth.

[Lucille]

Do we really need God and Pat Robertson to tell us this?

[Truth Warrior]

Is Robertson a FREEMASON TOO? :rolleyes:

[torchbearer]

I know where Robertson got this information...

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/10/29/nice_idol_you_got_there.jpg (http://http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/10/wheres_charlton_heston_when_yo.php)
There's his god.

[torchbearer]

...

[LibertyEagle]

I don't think Robertson would recognize God if he walked right up and slapped him. If he did recognize him, he would immediately know that he was in deep shit.

qft

[jake]

the unholy alliance between the US Government and these wacko Evangelical preachers is disgusting and morally repugnant. The fact that people listen to this drivel is so disappointing but in no way surprising.

[LibertyEagle]

the unholy alliance between the US Government and these wacko Evangelical preachers is disgusting and morally repugnant. The fact that people listen to this drivel is so disappointing but in no way surprising.

They're not all like Robertson. Not at all.

[Zolah]

I must've missed the part in the bible where it says governments absolutely should steal half the money of all the people that live within its borders and imprison anyone who disagrees with the theft.

[Truth Warrior]

I must've missed the part in the bible where it says governments absolutely should steal half the money of all the people that live within its borders and imprison anyone who disagrees with the theft.

Romans 13, v. 1-7. ;)

[sevin]

Pat Robertson will burn in Hell.

[t0rnado]

These religious fanatics cling onto anyone who is in power. Then they influence them to fund their faith based bullshit.

Pat Robertson is the same guy that thinks gay people cause hurricanes. Of course he embraces socialism. He's not a conservative, he just supported the Republican party because they've been in power since the 80s(Republican Revolution during Clinton's terms). Now that things are changing, he's supporting Obama.

[jkm1864]

Socialism was invented by the devil to keep man down. Jesus said He would rather people give with a joyful heart or not give at all. When You help out someone You should feel good about Yourself. Now when the government steals Your money and gives it to some undeserving welfare scum it breeds hate. So I have to say that Pat Robertson has sold his soul to the devil and He will be getting His reward real soon because the end is near.

[Andrew-Austin]

Pat Robertson will burn in Hell.

Hope not, that is a rather harsh punishment.

Pretending to be God's representative does not warrant a good toasting in the fires of hell for eternity.

That sure would qualify a ton of people to hell.

[Theocrat]

Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, announced at his staff's annual prayer retreat that God told him Americans would embrace socialism in 2009 "in order to relieve their pain" and that the economy would rebound under an Obama administration.

"The Lord said the economy of your nation will recover," Robertson told a group assembled at Founders Inn on the campus of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va., a university Robertson founded.

Robertson said God also declared, "The steps taken will lead to a dramatic increase in the power of government. The people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the '30s."

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85243

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5VrJmgzItM&fmt=18

Hmmm. I wonder where in the Bible has God ever declared any of those things which Pat Robertson has spoken.

[Ex Post Facto]

I think the government will except socialism. The people on the other hand won't. Certainly, I have no problem with the mess thats been made of the economy using socialism concepts to help unemployed eat. I'd rather have them print money for food than print money for cars that nobody can afford anyway.

[heavenlyboy34]

Hope not, that is a rather harsh punishment.

Pretending to be God's representative does not warrant a good toasting in the fires of hell for eternity.

That sure would qualify a ton of people to hell.

It's a deadly sin-"Thou shalt not bear false witness". ;)

[heavenlyboy34]

Romans 13, v. 1-7. ;)
;)

[Truth Warrior]

Hmmmm? Amerika has been and IS accepting socialism, for at least the last 95 years now. Perhaps Pat is correct. :( :( :(

[mconder]

"The Lord said the economy of your nation will recover," Robertson told a group assembled at Founders Inn on the campus of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va., a university Robertson founded.

Robertson said God also declared, "The steps taken will lead to a dramatic increase in the power of government. The people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the '30s."

Hello...master of the obvious. Tell me something I don't know. This is the trick of all soothsayers and fortune tellers, just state something incredibly general that anyone would be able to guess if they had half a brain.

[Ex Post Facto]

I sometimes wonder how many preachers aren't what the bible is warning of when it talks of false prophets.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Hopefully no one from here would do this, but the language in comments was revolting, childish, and reflected poorly on the commenter. Just the thought that it could be someone from here made me terribly embarrassed.

[NYgs23]

To be fair to Robertson, if you listen to the whole message, it was poorly worded, but altogether it didn't sound like he was saying socialism was a good thing. Later in the video, he says that the stock market recovery will be swift but will lead to hyperinflation further down the road. So apparently, God gave him pretty accurate predictions, and Robertson just communicated it poorly.

The Lord seems to also be talking to Peter Schiff:

"The Lord said the dollar is going to go down dramatically," Robertson said in the interview. "If I'm hearing him right, gold will go to about $1900 dollars an ounce and oil to $300 a barrel."

[PatriotOne]

Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, announced at his staff's annual prayer retreat that God told him Americans would embrace socialism in 2009 "in order to relieve their pain" and that the economy would rebound under an Obama administration.

"The Lord said the economy of your nation will recover," Robertson told a group assembled at Founders Inn on the campus of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va., a university Robertson founded.

Robertson said God also declared, "The steps taken will lead to a dramatic increase in the power of government. The people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the '30s."

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85243

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5VrJmgzItM&fmt=18

I wonder if Pat thinks Alex Jones is GOD talking to him through the radio :confused: Alex and his guests have been talking about this stuff for years.

What a slimey snake.

[PatriotOne]

Robertson is a major tool. :mad:

The New World Order (Paperback)
by Pat Robertson (Author)
Released: March 17, 1992

http://www.amazon.com/New-World-Order-Pat-Robertson/dp/0849933943

[Danke]

The New World Order (Paperback)
by Pat Robertson (Author)
Released: March 17, 1992

http://www.amazon.com/New-World-Order-Pat-Robertson/dp/0849933943

"I knew nothing about Pat Robertson's cocaine addiction before reading this book. It's really brave about him to tell about how low he got, prostituting himself to buy controlled substances. At his age, can you imagine? Praise the Lord. "

[LibertyEagle]

The New World Order (Paperback)
by Pat Robertson (Author)
Released: March 17, 1992

http://www.amazon.com/New-World-Order-Pat-Robertson/dp/0849933943

Yes, I know. He's still a tool.

[PatriotOne]

"I knew nothing about Pat Robertson's cocaine addiction before reading this book. It's really brave about him to tell about how low he got, prostituting himself to buy controlled substances. At his age, can you imagine? Praise the Lord. "

Rolf!!!

[AJ Antimony]

Does he have a recording of God saying this... or is it that voice in Robertson's head that said this???

Voice because we all know god is imaginary.

[PatriotOne]

Yes, I know. He's still a tool.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. He is a tool. He never bothers to point out the conspirator's in the New World Order. He just blathers on about how it plays out in the bible like it is some kind of divine plan or something :rolleyes:

[roho76]

He will be getting His reward real soon because the end is near.

Please tell me this is just a joke. Because the people who pontificate this stuff are the ones who help sell this type of outcome in the subconscious of the masses. I'm sick of the Fire and Brimstone shit. It's no wonder religion gets a bad name. Your dead before you've even lived if you believe in this stuff.

[yaz]

pat robertson = peter popoff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgW5gTp4bnM

[satchelmcqueen]

what a crook.

[acptulsa]

Good ol' Pat.

Anyone who says they speak for God is no one I care to listen to. My habit is to call b.s. and walk away.

I'd rather go listen to the meglamaniacs in the psycho ward. They tend to be far more interesting than ol' Pat.

[bojo68]

"I knew nothing about Pat Robertson's cocaine addiction before reading this book. It's really brave about him to tell about how low he got, prostituting himself to buy controlled substances. At his age, can you imagine? Praise the Lord. "

I was wondering what drugs he was on.....:)

[bojo68]

Hunh, so do the atheists. What are the odds? :rolleyes:

"Socialism in America will come through the ballot box."
by: Gus Hall
[Arvo Gustav Halberg ] (1910-2000) leader of the Communist Party USA and its four-time U.S. presidential candidate
Source: in an interview with the Cleveland Plain-Dealer (1996)

Methinks your confusing socialism and atheism, they're two separate things, and completely independent of each other.

[Truth Warrior]

Methinks your confusing socialism and atheism, they're two separate things, and completely independent of each other. Youthinks again. Look up Gus Hall. :rolleyes:

[bojo68]

Youthinks again. Look up Gus Hall. :rolleyes:

I realize that he may have indeed been both, but that doesn't make all atheists socialist.

[Truth Warrior]

I realize that he may have indeed been both, but that doesn't make all atheists socialist. Nor was that my claim. What is the most common and popular economic system preference for the WORLD'S atheists? ;)

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Nor was that my claim. What is the most common and popular economic system preference for the WORLD'S atheists? ;)

Capitalism? Those who dont believe in a centrally planned universe arent likely to believe in a centrally planned economy either.

[canadian4ronpaul]

i know this guy by no means speaks for all americans, but why do americans always portray russia as like...the aggressive leader of evil in the world?

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

i know this guy by no means speaks for all americans, but why do americans always portray russia as like...the aggressive leader of evil in the world?

Because you need to dehumanize and irrationalize your enemy in the eyes of the public.

[Truth Warrior]

i know this guy by no means speaks for all americans, but why do americans always portray russia as like...the aggressive leader of evil in the world? Body count. Add the CCP victims to that too.:rolleyes:

[TinyMachines]

Does he have a recording of God saying this... or is it that voice in Robertson's head that said this???

Didn't you know that robertson is godspoken?
He traces wood grains across the floor of his room.
He washes his hands until they bleed.
He thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
You didn't know this?

[canadian4ronpaul]

ya but....what does russia do to the united states? From what i have been learning about russia in school, they dont want conflict at all. they will protect their interests but i dont see them getting involved in some massive nuclear conflict or anything. I just dont think that is on the agenda for them anymore.

[Truth Warrior]

ya but....what does russia do to the united states? From what i have been learning about russia in school, they dont want conflict at all. they will protect their interests but i dont see them getting involved in some massive nuclear conflict or anything. I just dont think that is on the agenda for them anymore. Tell me about the USSR.

[canadian4ronpaul]

russia and the USSR are not the same thing

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

ya but....what does russia do to the united states? From what i have been learning about russia in school, they dont want conflict at all. they will protect their interests but i dont see them getting involved in some massive nuclear conflict or anything. I just dont think that is on the agenda for them anymore.

Its not about Russia, its about creating an image of an evil empire in the eyes of the American people so they support any stupid shit the US guvment wants to do in the name of protecting us from the evil commies in Russia Stalin land.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Is this the same Pat Robertson who guaranteed that the world would end in 1982?

[canadian4ronpaul]

i guess its working!

[LibertyEagle]

Is this the same Pat Robertson who guaranteed that the world would end in 1982?

Nah, that was "Oral Roberts". lol.

[LibertyEagle]

ya but....what does russia do to the united states? From what i have been learning about russia in school, they dont want conflict at all. they will protect their interests but i dont see them getting involved in some massive nuclear conflict or anything. I just dont think that is on the agenda for them anymore.

Be sure and not just accept whatever they tell you in your public school indoctrination center. Do outside research.

[Truth Warrior]

russia and the USSR are not the same thing How about just between 1917 - 1990? :rolleyes:

[canadian4ronpaul]

Be sure and not just accept whatever they tell you in your public school indoctrination center. Do outside research.

my prof is an expert, he goes there between 3 and 5 times a year and has been doing that since the 60s. i would trust what he says over fox news and the like. and he's not pulling the liberal line either, he was actually the man who turned me away from communism a few years ago. very critical of it and how the party dominates every aspect of life.

basically though, russia just has this stigma associated with it. whenever its name is brought up it is always in a suspicious tone as if they are up to something, but i think their foreign policy is ten times more conservative and realistic than americas or basically all other powerful nations.

[torchbearer]

my prof is an expert, he goes there between 3 and 5 times a year and has been doing that since the 60s. i would trust what he says over fox news and the like. and he's not pulling the liberal line either, he was actually the man who turned me away from communism a few years ago. very critical of it and how the party dominates every aspect of life.

basically though, russia just has this stigma associated with it. whenever its name is brought up it is always in a suspicious tone as if they are up to something, but i think their foreign policy is ten times more conservative and realistic than americas or basically all other powerful nations.

every Man is an expert at something...

[canadian4ronpaul]

How about just between 1917 - 1990? :rolleyes:

by that logic germany today is still run by nazis. not the case. the regime has changed.
":rolleyes:"

[LibertyEagle]

by that logic germany today is still run by nazis. not the case. the regime has changed.
":rolleyes:"

Have you checked into the background of the people in power?

[Theocrat]

Capitalism? Those who dont believe in a centrally planned universe arent likely to believe in a centrally planned economy either.

How do you know that? It seems to me that most "atheists" tend to be big government statists by nature of their political convictions about mankind/society and religious assumptions about the universe. Just take a look at how many "atheists" typically support socialist policies on the Left of the political spectrum.

[canadian4ronpaul]

you dont need to check their backgrouns to understand that the regime operates on a completely different ideological level. they do not persecute jews, its actually one of the most politically correct countries out there. they aren't any european invasions or arms races taking place

[Truth Warrior]

by that logic germany today is still run by nazis. not the case. the regime has changed.
":rolleyes:" It's not logic, it's a question. DUH!

[heavenlyboy34]

How do you know that? It seems to me that most "atheists" tend to be big government statists by nature of their political convictions about mankind/society and religious assumptions about the universe. Just take a look at how many "atheists" typically support socialist policies on the Left of the political spectrum.

Latin American Dictatorships occur in largely Catholic/Christian countries like Mexico. I don't think your correlation is very good. I'm not exactly an expert at this, but the best answer seems to be "follow the money". ;)

[Truth Warrior]

you dont need to check their backgrouns to understand that the regime operates on a completely different ideological level. they do not persecute jews, its actually one of the most politically correct countries out there. they aren't any european invasions or arms races taking place Well if the current president of Russia was a former KGB agent, I think his background is VERY significant.<IMHO>

[heavenlyboy34]

It's not logic, it's a question. DUH!

I lol'd, sesei. :D

[heavenlyboy34]

Well if the current president of Russia was a former KGB agent, I think his background is VERY significant.<IMHO>

+666 :eek:

[Theocrat]

Latin American Dictatorships occur in largely Catholic/Christian countries like Mexico. I don't think your correlation is very good. I'm not exactly an expert at this, but the best answer seems to be "follow the money". ;)

Roman Catholicism is by nature an ecclesiastical dictatorship, so it's no surprise to me that its political expressions into the public arena reflect those of its own liturgical system. Since "atheists" claim there is no God, their natural reaction is to appeal to the State when dealing with political/societal/economic issues as a "god" of sorts (having no other higher power to obtain a redress of grievances).

Of course, not all "atheists" are statists who readily support socialist policies, but those are the ones who have been influenced by a Christian approach to economics (capitalism), all the while denying the foundations thereof. This is because capitalism presupposes an unalienable right to own property granted by a Divine hand for the fruitful benefit of an individual or household ("economy"), whether it's land, livestock, or any thing else blessed by God in His creation.

[bojo68]

How do you know that? It seems to me that most "atheists" tend to be big government statists by nature of their political convictions about mankind/society and religious assumptions about the universe. Just take a look at how many "atheists" typically support socialist policies on the Left of the political spectrum.

Hehe, keep that in mind as to why many of us don't give your quackery much significance.

[bojo68]

Latin American Dictatorships occur in largely Catholic/Christian countries like Mexico. I don't think your correlation is very good. I'm not exactly an expert at this, but the best answer seems to be "follow the money". ;)

DING DING DING, we have a winner.....:)

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Seems to me Theo is just making stuff up without any background research.

[asimplegirl]

You know, I was once told, by a friend of someone standing out in this thread, that God told him I was going to be punished, and that I was swimming in sin for not being married by the state, and instead only by the church...hmm..

seems there are quite a lot of kooks out there..and in the name of God.

And, ya'll better not be arguing with heavenlyboy...you know he IS Jesus.. for reals!

[M House]

Where the hell are all these atheist socialist states that people claim all over the world? I mean the majority of people are religious. It just doesn't make any sense after doing a little googling on it.

[nodope0695]

I won't accept it...I'll fight for my freedom, and I hope I'm not alone.

[Bro.Butch]

In this time, the Bible is the "spoken" word.

When you verbally talk to GOD it is called prayer,
When GOD verbally talks to you it is called INSANITY...

Straight jacket anyone ?!?


WE ALL MUST have our voices heard fighting socialism, NOW MORE THAN EVER :mad:

[Chosen]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4971/img2642smallov1fz5.jpg

[Mini-Me]

It's a deadly sin-"Thou shalt not bear false witness". ;)
The way I've thought of it, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour," focuses more on prohibiting people from making false accusations against others than anything else...though I'm sure it also applies to lying in any other way that harms your neighbor, as well.

Still, Pat Robertson is extremely guilty here of violating another commandment...one which most people give little thought to and mistakenly believe has to do with prohibiting the phrase, "God damn it." :rolleyes: "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." In plain English, what this really means is: Do not exploit the name of God out of vanity or for your own purposes, and do not launder your own words/beliefs/etc. through God's name. Whenever someone gives their own opinion on something and passes it off as God's divine and authoritative word, they are guilty of violating this commandment. On one of his shows, Bill Maher described a textbook example of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz5T1EEo8ws&e

Jerry Falwell found out that you could launder your hate through the cover of God's will. He didn't hate gays. God does. All Jerry Falwell's power came from name-dropping God, and gay people should steal that trick. You know what? Don't say you want something because it's your right as a human being. Say you want it because it's your religion.
You could make a strong case that the Catholic Pope violates this commandment when he speaks with supposed "infallibility." Really, a lot of people violate it on a regular basis...and I'll leave the several most egregious examples of human beings violating this commandment throughout history for others to figure out (because I don't want to start a religious debate in this thread - God knows that we've seen enough. I don't know. God does. ;)).

In any case...unless Pat Robertson is just batshit crazy and hears voices (which I suppose may be likely), this is just another instance of him repurposing God's name for his own use, to give his own pronouncements an air of authority that they do not really possess. Robertson wasn't necessarily even endorsing socialism, just saying it will happen...but in any case, saying you speak for God is a big no-no.

As you can tell by the fact that I bothered to write all that out, Pat Robertson really gets under my skin. ;)

[Bro.Butch]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4971/img2642smallov1fz5.jpg


I see my friend you are already taking to heart my New Years Resolution for us all...

KEEP OUR POWDER DRY :D

[Chosen]

Yes!

Also, remember to change magazines during movement. A common mistake is to get to point and reload, always take advantage of movement. Stay off the "x"

[LibertyEagle]

hehe. I love you guys. :)

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Yes!

Also, remember to change magazines during movement. A common mistake is to get to point and reload, always take advantage of movement. Stay off the "x"

And circle strafe while bunny hopping.

[Mini-Me]

And circle strafe while bunny hopping.

Depending on how maneuverable you are, it might be better to make erratic sideways double-tap dashes instead, like Malcolm can (or Dante, Rhiannon, Kurgan, etc. for the truly old school). If you need to get to cover in a far away place, try dash-jumping, but beware your predictable arc. Also, if you've been at this for a REALLY long time, you might benefit from running diagonally. You'll get where you're going faster, and not just because of the pythagorean theorem.

Okay, I'm done. Brownie points to anyone who got all of the references. :D

[speciallyblend]

Robertson is a major tool. :mad:

x infinity

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=7446