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Kludge
12-31-2008, 01:53 AM
This ought to be interesting...

Fox McCloud
12-31-2008, 01:55 AM
Don't really care for the gentleman...

Kludge
12-31-2008, 02:00 AM
Word limit on poll options is very bothersome, by the way...

Fox McCloud
12-31-2008, 02:02 AM
anarcho-socialism is a contradiction....socialism always requires coercion...as Rothbard pointed out...they expect force to be used to get to an anarcho-socialist society, then government will just....disappear...yeah right.

dannno
12-31-2008, 02:02 AM
He has some great reasoning in many areas, such as how media is used to control the masses into accepting wars and such. He's generally very smart. He just doesn't realize that corporations and banks will ultimately control government for their own ends, so the power of government needs to be extremely limited. His philosophy is that there should simply be more transparency.

I also do not care for his views on 9/11 truth. It's actually kind of offensive and his attitude makes him seem manufactured, ironically, and this makes him seem like a real gatekeeper.

Kotin
12-31-2008, 02:07 AM
anarcho-socialism is a contradiction....socialism always requires coercion...as Rothbard pointed out...they expect force to be used to get to an anarcho-socialist society, then government will just....disappear...yeah right.

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Mitt Romneys sideburns
12-31-2008, 03:04 AM
I dont know enough about Noam Chomsky to make a well formed opinion. I have skimmed over a few of his books at the library, and he seems to be another one of the "turd in the punchbowl" types.

And Kludge is a douchebag.

Brassmouth
12-31-2008, 06:04 AM
I'm not too familiar with most of his ideas but he seems to be one of those people who are great at identifying and pointing out society's problems, but when it comes to solutions he's just batshit crazy. Think about it, this guy has backed himself into an intellectual corner; advocating socialism and "libertarianism" at the same time.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
12-31-2008, 06:22 AM
I very disappointed with all of you who arnt voting for 'Kludge is a Douchbag'

Isaac Bickerstaff
12-31-2008, 06:52 AM
How about "He has a great mind that has been emasculated by a lifetime in academia" ?

Cowlesy
12-31-2008, 07:06 AM
He has a cool name "Noam"...

...just makes me think of David the Gnome.

Pennsylvania
12-31-2008, 08:02 AM
He hates "Assault rifles". He believes the space program and its byproducts justify development at public expense. He believes wage labor is akin to slavery. Seems like your average leftist to me, just with more of a cult following.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
12-31-2008, 08:12 AM
He hates "Assault rifles". He believes the space program and its byproducts justify development at public expense. He believes wage labor is akin to slavery. Seems like your average leftist to me, just with more of a cult following.

I just realized right this minute how stupid government space programs are.

Pennsylvania
12-31-2008, 08:18 AM
I just realized right this minute how stupid government space programs are.

Sarcasm or? With your posts I can only tell about half the time :p

Mitt Romneys sideburns
12-31-2008, 08:31 AM
Sarcasm or? With your posts I can only tell about half the time :p

No, Im serious this time.

gls
12-31-2008, 08:37 AM
He was a favorite of my far-left college professors for a reason. The man is right on foreign policy but not much else. Even in that arena he no doubt supports so-called "humanitarian" intervention just as long as it's approved by the UN.

Aratus
12-31-2008, 09:06 AM
my radicalism never eclipsed his at my most radical...
admittedly i've again shifted to the right with age...

Truth Warrior
12-31-2008, 09:20 AM
Socialist! :p

Conza88
12-31-2008, 11:00 AM
He has a cool name "Noam"...

...just makes me think of David the Gnome.

David the Gnome. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAphcvZaS8I)

:D

"My opinion on Chomsky is so radically different from the thread options that I'ma make a new post."

As a matter of fact, he was my 'Ron Paul' before, Ron Paul. :)

I wrote to him, and he replied...

(How LOST I was...) http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9042/eektx4.gif

He is a LEFT WING GATEKEEPER.

How is it possible that ain't an option? It is the most correct one.

canadian4ronpaul
12-31-2008, 11:07 AM
to the dude who said that anarcho-socialists want the state to wither away....thats not true. this is where anarchists broke form traditional marxism. they were more anti-statist than most of us are. anarchists believe the state must be smashed in order for the people to be free. marx believed that poor economic conditions and "misery" was the reason the state existed. but the anarchists (quite rightly i believe) thought that the state also manufactured economic troubles and grievances in order to justify its existence and the reach of its power.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
12-31-2008, 12:23 PM
To me, there are two Noam Chomskys

One has done monumental work on on American foreign policy, which is essential reading

the other is a massive douchenozzle in every other conceivable way

Anti Federalist
12-31-2008, 12:33 PM
To me, there are two Noam Chomskys

One has done monumental work on on American foreign policy, which is essential reading

the other is a massive douchenozzle in every other conceivable way

Yeah, that.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
12-31-2008, 02:53 PM
I dont know enough about Noam Chomsky to make a well formed opinion. I have skimmed over a few of his books at the library, and he seems to be another one of the "turd in the punchbowl" types.

And Kludge is a douchebag.

A short history on "understanding."

The Presocratics, those who preceded Socrates, wrote in a poetic-like prose.

The Sophists made a living arguing both sides of a non-existent truth. So, to them, understanding by learning was ultimately deemed not possible.

Socrates did not write and quite possibly didn't know how to read.

Plato only took up a pen to write so he could take on the filthiness of the Greek poets and the deceitfulness of the Sophists. He at least matched every great writer and at best bettered most in his new endeavor.

Aristotle had a difficult time understanding Plato. This is why he invented the linguistical thought processes of "formal-logic" and "the four-causes" to explain things. But Aristotle didn't believe that math had any significant value in science. Plato, the mathematician, felt that math was science. While Plato wrote formal works, Aristotle never finished a formal writing. Aristotle did not invent science to create science but invented such to help prove that plants and animals have souls.

Galileo understood Aristotle well enough to perceive how his logic was faulty. He understood Plato well enough to write a Platonic dialogue helping explain why Aristotle's logic was faulty. Yet, Galileo couldn't see in his own writing how drastically he characterized the Pope as a fool.

Descartes once commented after a lecture that the many who came up to him to complement him, didn't understand him.

In the book "The Leibniz-Clarke correspondence" -- with Clarke representing Newton as his disciple -- neither Leibniz nor Newton, the two most brilliant men of their time, could understand the other.

Some consider Darwin as the greatest scientist since Aristotle, yet he wasn't a logician while his math skills were poor.

Conclusion: The faulty premise in the development of rational thought is that we can fully understand a premise equally.

Freedom 4 all
12-31-2008, 02:59 PM
To me, there are two Noam Chomskys

One has done monumental work on on American foreign policy, which is essential reading

the other is a massive douchenozzle in every other conceivable way

There's also the third one who is a good academic in non-political fields like linguistics and psychology.

Paulitician
12-31-2008, 04:31 PM
Confused liberal. Says he's a libertarian socialist, but he sounds no different than a marxist/social democrat to me. But, I have no big respect or disrespect for him either way.

priest_of_syrinx
12-31-2008, 06:41 PM
To me, there are two Noam Chomskys

One has done monumental work on on American foreign policy, which is essential reading

the other is a massive douchenozzle in every other conceivable way

I can agree with this. Usually I call him a douchenozzle.

1000-points-of-fright
12-31-2008, 07:03 PM
Oddly enough, my immediate answer to this poll was "Noam Chomsky is a douchebag".

And his name sounds like the corporation in Dune.

RSLudlum
12-31-2008, 07:23 PM
I've read only two of his books, "Failed States" and "Hegemony or Survival". I like his stance on US foreign policy. Chomsky's take on the media was a big factor in my younger brother's coming around to being very, very critical of the MSM. So, Chomsky does get some bonus points from my experience with him but other than those 2 points, I don't like his socialistic views.

Conservative Christian
01-02-2009, 11:24 PM
Chomsky = Braying Jackass


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