Post your map of America in 2020! (or just comment on these)

[Jeremy]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4909/usamapfu2.jpg

Idea from Hamadeh http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1886806&postcount=16

map started with http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg/650px-Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg.png

=)

[Jeremy]

By the way, on mine, the Confederation of Independent States seceded from the UN. (that's why those particular states are together)

and yes part of Louisiana is in the ocean =(

[Jeremy]

The Hamadeh administration cares for the people of New Orleans, and let me tell the world this, New Orleans will not fall to the depths of the ocean under my watch!

hah.

well your second map isnt 2020!

[t0rnado]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/9nations.png

Not mine; just got it from the Nine Nations of NA.

[nygiantfan]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1272/2020jj4.png

Original:
http://www.worldstadiums.com/north_america/maps/north_america.gif

__________________________________________________ _________________

Alaska will unify with Western Canada shortly after the fall of the Canadian government. Russia will invade and take over Alaska's holdings. Quebec will expand to take over much of Canada. Michigan will be among the first states to rebel, enraged by the final implosion of the American Auto Industry, and ally with many cities near the Great Lakes, including Chicago, Cleavland, Milwaukee, and some Canadian cities such as Toronto and Ottawa. New Hampshire will then become an independent nation, cutting off Maine from the United States. The US further disintegrates when Texas, California, and Montana declare their independence and expand. Texas declares war on Mexico and expands southward. The Mexicans are squeezed into oblivion from the south by Venezuela, who also conquer the Caribbean.

And for some reason I see some form of the United States surviving at least until 2020, but much beyond that who knows.

[Anti Federalist]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/9nations.png

Not mine; just got it from the Nine Nations of NA.

That's pretty close to what I would want to see, the three northern NE states broken away and part of the Canadian Maritimes (those having already seceded from Canada).

We got oil, gas and ports FTW.

[BuddyRey]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n185/Buddy-Rey/2020.jpg

[AmericasLastHope]

Thomas Chittum predicts racial Balkanization...

http://www.kelticklankirk.com/Map_Breakup_of_Amercia_Civil_War_Two.jpg

[Kludge]

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4792/endgameoz0.png

[nygiantfan]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/12/P1-AO116_RUSPRO_NS_20081228191715.gif

I'm sure a lot of you guys caught this article but if not :

http://gawker.com/5119823/with-russia-gone-to-pot-diplomat-predicts-us-split

[speciallyblend]

we colorado citizens demand to join the lakotah nation:) or we just stay colorado and stay single:)

[MRoCkEd]

http://www.superiorsigndesigns.com/windows_files/white_box.jpgEarth Union
http://dossandassociates.com/images/blank_world_map.gif

[robert4rp08]

http://www.gookalian.com/ron-paul/temp/USby2020_sm.jpg

[Agent CSL]

I doubt there will be any change, but I like "Ecotopia." That's so true. West coasters are crazy environmentalists. :P

Perhaps Lakota will show up on the map as a territory, but I severely doubt that.

[UnReconstructed]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9814/policestatehf3.png

[Athan]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9814/policestatehf3.png

lol... that is already true.

[slacker921]

If SHTF then the map of 2020 will be totally different from the map of 2018 and also totally different from the map of 2022. It'll be a long time before things stabilize.

NC wouldn't be in the same "country" as SC, and Eastern NC probably wouldn't be in the same country as Western NC (much like Southern California wouldn't go with Northern California, Southern Florida wouldn't go with Northern Florida).

We're more likely to see 75 small countries all using the same currency much like the EU. We'll lose the big government but TPTB will still have control via the currency.

Personally I'm hoping the map remains the same but the federal government loses some power over the states. We can hope.

[scandinaviany3]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4909/usamapfu2.jpg

Idea from Hamadeh http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1886806&postcount=16

map started with http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg/650px-Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg.png

=)

Very interesting

[DeadheadForPaul]

Thomas Chittum predicts racial Balkanization...


Because white supremacist mercenaries are always good people to listen to...

[mediahasyou]

http://www.austinkleon.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/stick_figure.gif

[The_Orlonater]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n185/Buddy-Rey/2020.jpg

:D

[scandinaviany3]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4909/usamapfu2.jpg

Idea from Hamadeh http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1886806&postcount=16

map started with http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg/650px-Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg.png

=)

what are you using to build the overlays

[Josh_LA]

you forgot Aztlan!

[Wadesc]

This thread is scaring me.

Something to think about on poo-year.

I tried making a map. But im an MSpaint failure.

[StudentForPaul08]

haha, well whatever happens I want to either go to Texas or the Mid-West. :)

[Wadesc]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/GVern05/3D%20Model%20Pics/2020.jpg

It might need some explanation.

[NEPA_Revolution]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4909/usamapfu2.jpg

Idea from Hamadeh http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1886806&postcount=16

map started with http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg/650px-Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg.png

=)

Damn Straight. The Anti-Social Republic of North Eastern Pennsylvania headed by me and GML

[acptulsa]

We are joking about the fall of the Rome of our era. Have you ever studied how many of mankind's advancements of ancient times had to be reinvented and/or rediscovered during and since the Renaissance? Consider this map for a moment:

http://www.learner.org/amerpass/unit02/images/7672-author9.jpg

We think we're so good and we're so brilliant that we can keep it all from falling apart. But are we good enough leaders to prevent the destruction of what good things remain? Or do we go back to maps that show where the sea serpents are?

[UtahApocalypse]

Ok Here is mine:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/Utah4RonPaul/Ron%20Paul%20Riders/NOAM2025Map.jpg

[coyote_sprit]

I'm not in the mood to Photoshop a crater.

[HOLLYWOOD]

The state of Jefferson... uh I mean the country of Jefferson! I would move there in a heartbeat.
Humbolt county also has it's privileges

http://www.jeffersonstate.com/images/mapofjefferson1.jpg
http://www.jeffersonstate.com/images/jillsbarn2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Map_of_usa_highlighting_jefferson.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Jefferson_state_flag.jpg/800px-Jefferson_state_flag.jpg

[AmericasLastHope]

Because white supremacist mercenaries are always good people to listen to...

Or perhaps an objective student of history should be fair-minded enough to observe that balkanization seems to be the norm from Babylon to Yugoslavia...

[akihabro]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/akihabro13/USA_blank_map-1.jpg
oops I meant carolina*

[james1906]

Texas will be a republic again, but we're taking Oklahoma, just so we have somebody to make fun of.

[Jeremy]

what are you using to build the overlays

what do you mean overlay?

[LibertiORDeth]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8297/lukesmapqc9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7602/maplegendes2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Just to clarify my beautiful handwriting, two of the x's are from nuclear weapons, the third is from flooding and the fourth is an attempt to wipe out all traces of Obama's citizenship (on a special covert operation ordered by him under the war against terror).
The territory marked "Casey" is where I will be residing, probably named "Kingdom of Casey Jones" or "KCJ" for short. Oh, and Texico is a Texan takeover of Mexico, not a Mexican invasion of Texas.

[jlaker]

http://www.gookalian.com/ron-paul/temp/USby2020_sm.jpg

Damn, I'm in the Obamanation:eek:
This map is the best!!

[Pauls' Revere]

the state of jefferson... Uh i mean the country of jefferson! I would move there in a heartbeat.
Humbolt county also has it's privileges

http://www.jeffersonstate.com/images/mapofjefferson1.jpg
http://www.jeffersonstate.com/images/jillsbarn2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/map_of_usa_highlighting_jefferson.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/jefferson_state_flag.jpg/800px-jefferson_state_flag.jpg

woohoo!!

:d

[Pauls' Revere]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8297/lukesmapqc9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7602/maplegendes2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Just to clarify my beautiful handwriting, two of the x's are from nuclear weapons, the third is from flooding and the fourth is an attempt to wipe out all traces of Obama's citizenship (on a special covert operation ordered by him under the war against terror).
The territory marked "Casey" is where I will be residing, probably named "Kingdom of Casey Jones" or "KCJ" for short.

This map looks like it was drawn by a serial killer!

:eek:

[literatim]

Lakotah will never have its own state. No State is going to let them secede and they don't have the numbers to do it by force. If they attempt a secession, that will probably be the end of the Lakotah people.

If the United States is going to break up, it will most likely happen along State borders with alliances of States forming new countries. The only way this will change is if war breaks out and land is split up. Balkanization will happen. Anyone who has ever studied history knows this always happens. It has already long started and it will do nothing but increase as turmoil plagues the nation.

[speciallyblend]

Lakotah will never have its own state. No State is going to let them secede and they don't have the numbers to do it by force. If they attempt a secession, that will probably be the end of the Lakotah people.

If the United States is going to break up, it will most likely happen along State borders with alliances of States forming new countries. The only way this will change is if war breaks out and land is split up. Balkanization will happen. Anyone who has ever studied history knows this always happens. It has already long started and it will do nothing but increase as turmoil plagues the nation.

hmm actually they already have their own state:)
they declared their nation awhile back and the feds have done nothing yet,in my eyes that means they have their own state already;)

[speciallyblend]

haha, well whatever happens I want to either go to Texas or the Mid-West. :)

Colorado Mtns /Period:) or lakota nation:) would do my best to secure the co mtns for the lakota nation:) and liberty/freedom loving americans. we have plenty of air force colorado graduates that would secure the lakota nation with NORAD:) hehe being goofy it is morning coffee..

RED DAWN / WOLVERINES:)

[acptulsa]

Texas will be a republic again, but we're taking Oklahoma, just so we have somebody to make fun of.

Small price to pay. Bring it on.

But you get your superior numbers together and elect Rick Perry to anything--from Brazos dog catcher to Wichita Falls fire ant inspector, I do mean anything--and we'll damned well secede from you too.

[LibertiORDeth]

This map looks like it was drawn by a serial killer!

:eek:

Please, not so loud :rolleyes:

[AmericasLastHope]

The destiny of empire is fracture.

[scandinaviany3]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4909/usamapfu2.jpg

Idea from Hamadeh http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1886806&postcount=16

map started with http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg/650px-Map_of_USA_with_state_names.svg.png

=)

So then what would happen to all those old treaties and purchases we did to form this country if the US broke up? It seems if lakota could go then why not others???

Would they be transferred to the new nation or is their language in each if terms of one party or the other dissolve or fail to live up to the the original terms that the treaty is dissolved.

That could get very, very interesting really quick

Think about the oregon country, southwestern US, Texas, Alaska????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Treaty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-American_Treaty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe-Hidalgo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Purchase

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Annexation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_purchase

Wonder then about the freestate projects like NH, SC and jefferson state?

http://www.jeffersonstate.com/

[ClockwiseSpark]

Colorado Mtns /Period:) or lakota nation:) would do my best to secure the co mtns for the lakota nation:) and liberty/freedom loving americans. we have plenty of air force colorado graduates that would secure the lakota nation with NORAD:) hehe being goofy it is morning coffee..

RED DAWN / WOLVERINES:)

Isn't that where Cheyenne Mountain is? Does that mean we'd get the Star Gate? :p

[Ex Post Facto]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/USBIOM1.jpg

From AGENDA 21 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=agenda+21&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=)

[james1906]

Small price to pay. Bring it on.

But you get your superior numbers together and elect Rick Perry to anything--from Brazos dog catcher to Wichita Falls fire ant inspector, I do mean anything--and we'll damned well secede from you too.

Agreed, if Perry gets elected to anything else, I'm moving to Oklahoma on the condition that I don't need to hire a private eye to find liquor.

[Minlawc]

Wow! In all of these maps Ohio gets screwed.


Or perhaps an objective student of history should be fair-minded enough to observe that balkanization seems to be the norm from Babylon to Yugoslavia...

Well, if you're going to get racial...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png/800px-Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png

[Ex Post Facto]

Wow! In all of these maps Ohio gets screwed.



Well, if you're going to get racial...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png/800px-Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png

Not too many people claim American...no wonder we've lost the constitution. We've been invaded by Germany :D

[AmericasLastHope]

Not too many people claim American...no wonder we've lost the constitution. We've been invaded by Germany :D

Yeah, especially too many invaders in Texas' Congressional District 14.

[Jeremy]

Ron Paul is of German descent :rolleyes:

[Uriel999]

Isn't that where Cheyenne Mountain is? Does that mean we'd get the Star Gate? :p

LOL, awesome to know other Fargate fans are out there. :)


Not too many people claim American...no wonder we've lost the constitution. We've been invaded by Germany :D

:D

[Nyte]

blimp

[AmericasLastHope]

'The Empire is Dying! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYB0L4g573s&feature=channel_page

Left and Right Work Together Against the Empire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSKBRpDVwuI

[torchbearer]

this map looks like it was drawn by a serial killer!

:eek:

lmao!

[AmericasLastHope]

Ron Paul Advocates Secession? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lmwg4eQ2s&feature=channel_page

[Jester's Joker]

http://www.jestersjoker.com/Texas_Bear2.GIF

http://www.jestersjoker.com/3-Chapter_Three_Texas__Atlantica_and_the_rebirth_of_ the_Phoenix.pdf

http://www.jestersjoker.com

My question is. If this prediction comes true.

Will Barack Obama become President of Hawaii?

Will Hillary Clinton become President of Atlantica?

Will John McCain become President of Texas?

Will Sarah Palin become President of Canada?

[constituent]

http://i40.tinypic.com/dd2xw9.jpg

[heavenlyboy34]

lol @ thread :)

[Jester's Joker]

This is an outline of the various fictional remnants of the United States government created in the aftermath of the nuclear attacks in the CBS series Jericho.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/ASA-USA_Jericho_Map.svg/250px-ASA-USA_Jericho_Map.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_in_Jericho

[Jester's Joker]

lol @ thread :)

I would like to say my prediction is based on the many dreams I have had and the dreams and visions others have had.

Historically the early Texans and Californians dreamed of a country that stretched form Texas to California and the Oregon territories, side by side with the United States, equal in size and population.

Conservatives are mostly country folk.
Liberals are mostly city folk.
Almost every state in the union has this division.
This last election was decided in the suburbs of America were the country meets the city.

This coming split is not based on Conservative vs. Liberals but based on Federal rights vs. State rights although this is a major part of the catalyst or reason for the split.
So far 33 states have declared sovereignty. Will an economic collapse along with the Federal Government taking over functions that were once left to the State result in State secession not to mention another major war overseas. Does the Federal Government serve the State as our constitution states or does the state serve the Federal Government? Only time will tell.
Along with historical writings, dreams and vision there is an organization that supports my belief that the country will split along the lines I have layed out and that organization is the Western Governors Association.

Than there is NAFTA and the Amero.

[literatim]

Lakotah will never have its own province. They don't have enough people for a war to separate from the States.

[jkm1864]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/ElectoralCollege2004.svg/800px-ElectoralCollege2004.svg.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/ElectoralCollege2000.svg/800px-ElectoralCollege2000.svg.png


Here You go if it happens it will be the red states vs the blue states. By the way the federals can keep California and the North east since they love slavery so much and hate freedom.

[ItsTime]

by 2020 the whole of the united states will be under water, just as Al Gore


My map

http://www.ornj.net/webalbum/sample/water.jpg

[Jester's Joker]

I think this gives a more acurate picture of the election of 2008
useing red, blue, and shades of purple in between to indicate percentages of votes.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/countymappurpler512.png

[Icymudpuppy]

Red county in a blue state...

http://www.calconco.net/2008_Election_Map.jpg

[Jester's Joker]

[QUOTE=Icymudpuppy;2157067]Red county in a blue state...

QUOTE]

That’s fine but it does not take into account how many people voted republican or democrat in each county. Not everyone in each county voted democrat or republican.

[heavenlyboy34]

Ron Paul Advocates Secession? YouTube - Ron Paul - Republic of Texas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lmwg4eQ2s&feature=channel_page)

danged crazy libertarian! Who would think such madness? ;):cool::D:)

[scandinaviany3]

I doubt there will be any change, but I like "Ecotopia." That's so true. West coasters are crazy environmentalists. :P

Perhaps Lakota will show up on the map as a territory, but I severely doubt that.

I thought it was because of the climate