Bertrand Russell

[rational thinker]

"A History of Western Philosophy" -- this book is a fundamental reading for every critical thinker.

If anyone here is interested in mathematics, there is also "Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy" also by Bertrand Russell.

If you haven't read it, I also recommend "Why I am not a Christian" a collection of essays by Bertrand Russell, and the appendix also covers how he was barred from teaching at the College of New York City. The appendix is very interesting to read, the judge was a complete clown, leading a legal circus filled with religious idiots who had no concern for facts.

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/593

[haaaylee]

I almost started a thread on him, but more to ask questions than to recommend him. I read Why I am Not a Christian years ago but wasn't it just him more against organized religion than actually being an Atheist? Anyways, i picked up "Unpopular Essays" at a thrift store a few days ago. Haven't read them yet though. .. ?

[Truth Warrior]

"Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was false." -- Bertrand Russell

[Truth Warrior]

Bertrand Arthur William Russell (b.1872 - d.1970) was a British philosopher, logician, essayist, and social critic, best known for his work in mathematical logic and analytic philosophy. His most influential contributions include his defense of logicism (the view that mathematics is in some important sense reducible to logic), and his theories of definite descriptions and logical atomism. Along with G.E. Moore, Russell is generally recognized as one of the founders of analytic philosophy. Along with Kurt Gödel, he is also regularly credited with being one of the two most important logicians of the twentieth century.

Over the course of his long career, Russell made significant contributions, not just to logic and philosophy, but to a broad range of other subjects including education, history, political theory and religious studies. In addition, many of his writings on a wide variety of topics in both the sciences and the humanities have influenced generations of general readers. After a life marked by controversy (including dismissals from both Trinity College, Cambridge, and City College, New York), Russell was awarded the Order of Merit in 1949 and the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1950. Also noted for his many spirited anti-war and anti-nuclear protests, Russell remained a prominent public figure until his death at the age of 97.

Extract from:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/russell/ (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/russell/)

[lucius]

Bertrand Arthur William Russell (b.1872 - d.1970) was a British philosopher, logician, essayist, and social critic, best known for his work in mathematical logic and analytic philosophy. His most influential contributions include his defense of logicism (the view that mathematics is in some important sense reducible to logic), and his theories of definite descriptions and logical atomism. Along with G.E. Moore, Russell is generally recognized as one of the founders of analytic philosophy. Along with Kurt Gödel, he is also regularly credited with being one of the two most important logicians of the twentieth century.

Over the course of his long career, Russell made significant contributions, not just to logic and philosophy, but to a broad range of other subjects including education, history, political theory and religious studies. In addition, many of his writings on a wide variety of topics in both the sciences and the humanities have influenced generations of general readers. After a life marked by controversy (including dismissals from both Trinity College, Cambridge, and City College, New York), Russell was awarded the Order of Merit in 1949 and the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1950. Also noted for his many spirited anti-war and anti-nuclear protests, Russell remained a prominent public figure until his death at the age of 97.

Extract from:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/russell/ (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/russell/)

Fabian Scientist, Socialist and of the bloodline as well: Lord Russell.

Not a nice guy, read 1953 ‘The Impact of Science on Society’. I find this type of author appropriately egotistical, who by creating an underlying discourse, are actually boasting to their fellow brethren, but must realize that some of the ‘rubes’ will read their works as well, so they camouflage their true intent. A subtle tip-off is on page two with this telling gem, “The decay of human sacrifice in Mediterranean countries is not attributed to science, but presumably to humanitarian feelings.” Could that be a portent usage of decay in a sentence? I think so, and whole volumes have been written about just one page of this book, p. 50 (see Clymer’s ‘The Age of Treason’):

"Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished, But in his day this was an unattainable ideal: what he regarded as the best system in existence produced Karl Marx. In future such failures are not likely to occur where there is [scientific] dictatorship. DIET, INJECTIONS and INJUNCTIONS will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so. A totalitarian government with a scientific bent might do things that to us would seem horrifying. The Nazis were more scientific than the present rulers of Russia, and were more inclined towards the SORT OF ATROCITIES than I have in mind."

Few more 'pearls' from this kindly sweet old man:

Gradually...the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton."

From p.55: "...I do not believe that dictatorship is a lasting form of scientific society--unless (but this proviso is important) it can become world-wide."

"...modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called "education" ... It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment... Where all children go to school, and all schools are controlled by the government, the authorities can close the minds of the young to everything contrary to official orthodoxy... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." -- Bertrand Russell, "The Impact of Science on Society"

Not much liberty message there, read between the lines with his ilk.

Make no mistake this man was one of the architects of this tyrannical scientific dictatorship being weaved around us daily, malefic social engineer extraordinaire. I have a wry smile about the myth of the friendly acid-dropping/CIA promoting, anti-war Vietnam protesting, innocuous professor--this high functioning psychopath is a pure Tavistock mind-fucker, plain and simple...

His work is lynch-pin critical for our new given culture: dialectic materialistic secular humanism, the psyop-flavor of the century inculcations...elevating science/state to its proper status for the elite.

[Truth Warrior]

Fabian Scientist, Socialist and of the bloodline as well: Lord Russell.

Not a nice guy, read 1953 ‘The Impact of Science on Society’. I find this type of author appropriately egotistical, who by creating an underlying discourse, are actually boasting to their fellow brethren, but must realize that some of the ‘rubes’ will read their works as well, so they camouflage their true intent. A subtle tip-off is on page two with this telling gem, “The decay of human sacrifice in Mediterranean countries is not attributed to science, but presumably to humanitarian feelings.” Could that be a portent usage of decay in a sentence? I think so, and whole volumes have been written about just one page of this book, p. 50 (see Clymer’s ‘The Age of Treason’):

"Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished, But in his day this was an unattainable ideal: what he regarded as the best system in existence produced Karl Marx. In future such failures are not likely to occur where there is [scientific] dictatorship. DIET, INJECTIONS and INJUNCTIONS will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so. A totalitarian government with a scientific bent might do things that to us would seem horrifying. The Nazis were more scientific than the present rulers of Russia, and were more inclined towards the SORT OF ATROCITIES than I have in mind."

Few more 'pearls' from this kindly sweet old man:

Gradually...the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton."

From p.55: "...I do not believe that dictatorship is a lasting form of scientific society--unless (but this proviso is important) it can become world-wide."

"...modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called "education" ... It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment... Where all children go to school, and all schools are controlled by the government, the authorities can close the minds of the young to everything contrary to official orthodoxy... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." -- Bertrand Russell, "The Impact of Science on Society"

Not much liberty message there, read between the lines with his ilk.

Make no mistake this man was one of the architects of this tyrannical scientific dictatorship being weaved around us everyday, malefic social engineer extraordinaire. I have a wry smile about the myth of the friendly acid-dropping/CIA promoting, anti-war Vietnam protesting, friendly professor--this high functioning psychopath is a pure Tavistock mind-fucker, plain and simple...

Yep, you ARE correct. ;)

I despised that about him. But I still REALLY LIKE the above quote ( post #4 ). Even the bad guys speak a TRUTH, just now and then, on occasion.<IMHO>

Thanks! :)

[lucius]

Yep, you ARE correct. ;)

I despised that about him. But I still REALLY LIKE the above quote ( post #4 ). Even the bad guys speak a TRUTH, just now and then, on occasion.<IMHO>

Thanks! :)

I love to read his work, most of it is dead-on accurate and very portent (just need to read between the lines). Like a hammer, can build things constructive with its use or in Russell's case--smash little kids heads in (limiting their self-determination through social-engineering/mind-fucking).

ps: Magnificent mind, he was homeschooled... :)

[Truth Warrior]

I love to read his work, most of it is dead-on accurate and very portent (just read between the lines). Like a hammer, can build things constructive with it's use or in Russell's case--smash little kids heads in (limiting their self-determination through social-engineering/mind-fucking).

ps: Magnificent mind, he was homeschooled... :) Correct again. ;) :)

[tonesforjonesbones]

Damn Fabians and their Hegelian Dialectic PFFFT . Tones

[lucius]

His work is lynch-pin critical for our new given culture: dialectic materialistic secular humanism, the psyop-flavor of the century inculcations...elevating science/state to its proper status for the elite. Bump

[LibertyEagle]

His work is lynch-pin critical for our new given culture: dialectic materialistic secular humanism, the psyop-flavor of the century inculcations...elevating science/state to its proper status for the elite. Bump

Indeed and it seems that a number of people are falling for it. :( Even in our own camp.

[rational thinker]

Indeed and it seems that a number of people are falling for it. :( Even in our own camp.

:( Don't worry LibertyEagle, I'll always be on the side of liberty. Both of us may disagree wholeheartedly on a whole bunch of issues concerning metaphysical and other philosophical inquiries, but we both supported Ron Paul to our fullest for the same reason: liberty. Just remember that.:)

[Truth Warrior]

His work is lynch-pin critical for our new given culture: dialectic materialistic secular humanism, the psyop-flavor of the century inculcations...elevating science/state to its proper status for the elite. Bump I trace it back to Hegel, Marx, etc. Russell was just another "modern day" lackey NWO enabler.<IMHO> :p :(

He shoulda just stuck with math and logic. ;)

[lucius]

:( Don't worry LibertyEagle, I'll always be on the side of liberty. Both of us may disagree wholeheartedly on a whole bunch of issues concerning metaphysical and other philosophical inquiries, but we both supported Ron Paul to our fullest for the same reason: liberty. Just remember that.:)

qft! (+1) I as well...

[LibertyEagle]

:( Don't worry LibertyEagle, I'll always be on the side of liberty. Both of us may disagree wholeheartedly on a whole bunch of issues concerning metaphysical and other philosophical inquiries, but we both supported Ron Paul to our fullest for the same reason: liberty. Just remember that.:)

Yes, I do, but now that the campaign is over, we seem to have forgotten what brought us together. We are splintering all over the place and seem to be wandering around aimlessly. Some, I'm sure, think that is a great thing, but it is not exactly what we came here to do. Just because Ron is no longer running, our objectives did not die, or did they?

[Truth Warrior]

And didn't THAT turn out well? :rolleyes: Damn, kinda like individuals. :D "Sheeple-bots" excluded, of course. ;)

[RCA]

I'd give this forum a spin:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=195

where are the mods???

[RonPaulMania]

Russell had great intellectual capacities, but sadly he was lacking in many areas of traditional dialectics and secularism.

Russell was a moron parading himself as a genius.

Here is a great debate with Russell getting OWNED:
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p20.htm

[rational thinker]

Yes, I do, but now that the campaign is over, we seem to have forgotten what brought us together. We are splintering all over the place and seem to be wandering around aimlessly. Some, I'm sure, think that is a great thing, but it is not exactly what we came here to do. Just because Ron is no longer running, our objectives did not die, or did they?

I wouldn't say they died. Just that we're going more off-topic now. We just need something to fire us back up. That's kind of hard to do without a campaign in place.

[LibertyEagle]

I wouldn't say they died. Just that we're going more off-topic now. We just need something to fire us back up. That's kind of hard to do without a campaign in place.

But why? There are things to do. Get involved with the C4L, the JBS, or any number of organizations. Take back your local government.

We were never going to win at the national level. Especially the presidency. Our only hope is from the ground floor on up. It's now or never. If we wait around for some kind of miracle to occur, the next step is going to be the gulag.