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heavenlyboy34
12-24-2008, 12:33 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-12-23_089_there_is_hope.mp3

Grimnir Wotansvolk
12-24-2008, 01:18 PM
"I'm beginning to think that maybe they don't care that it doesn't work..."

I'm sorry, but that sounded horribly naive. How could he not see this fact already?

Truth Warrior
12-24-2008, 02:11 PM
The Rise of the Fourth Reich
The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America
By Jim Marrs
http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061245589/The_Rise_of_the_Fourth_Reich/index.aspx (http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061245589/The_Rise_of_the_Fourth_Reich/index.aspx)

Fox McCloud
12-24-2008, 02:14 PM
"I'm beginning to think that maybe they don't care that it doesn't work..."

I'm sorry, but that sounded horribly naive. How could he not see this fact already?

Ron is one that has always remained positive and tried to avoid, as much as possible, the conspiracy-side of things....so I wouldn't say its naivety, so much as it has been him remaining very cautious to point a finger over the years.

lodge939
12-24-2008, 02:15 PM
"I'm beginning to think that maybe they don't care that it doesn't work..."

I'm sorry, but that sounded horribly naive. How could he not see this fact already?I'm sure he has a better picture of the innerworkings of the elites than you. They might be just dumb rather than evil/corrupt

lodge939
12-24-2008, 02:15 PM
Ron is one that has always remained positive and tried to avoid, as much as possible, the conspiracy-side of things....so I wouldn't say its naivety, so much as it has been him remaining very cautious to point a finger over the years.Besides, if there is a NWO conspiracy run by all powerful bad dudes, we're screwed anyway

heavenlyboy34
12-24-2008, 02:20 PM
The Rise of the Fourth Reich
The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America
By Jim Marrs
http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061245589/The_Rise_of_the_Fourth_Reich/index.aspx (http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061245589/The_Rise_of_the_Fourth_Reich/index.aspx)

This is depressing. :(

nodope0695
12-24-2008, 02:24 PM
Okay so now it's unanimous....day late and a fiat dollar short.:D

Truth Warrior
12-24-2008, 02:27 PM
This is depressing. :( Especially so, if the point of NO return has been LONG passed, before we were even born.<IMHO> :eek: :(

TheConstitutionLives
12-24-2008, 04:29 PM
Everything that happens is not a conspiracy. The world is much too complex for a few people to be steering it like some choose to believe. To believe that there are a few guiding the entire thing is to believe they have god-like powers. I don't care what Alex Jones says. It's not rational thinking. These people are not god-like - they're typical dumbed down selfish human beings who happen to be in powerful positions. To get caught up in all this and believe this is part of some massive hidden agenda is childish. Do people conspire behind closed doors and do bad things? Yes. Do they control the whole f-ing world? No.

Kludge
12-24-2008, 04:37 PM
I'm sure he has a better picture of the innerworkings of the elites than you. They might be just dumb rather than evil/corrupt

Politicians are usually both stupid and evil. They're short-sighted and worry only about their re-election so that they can do more "good" for their community. They keep compromising, meeting with local Unions and PACs, giving them what they want in hopes for a campaign endorsement or other contribution (forming sub-governments/"Iron Triangles"). They do "case work" instead of thinking/writing/speaking about policy, where they "cut through the red tape" to show a citizen that they care. Pretty soon, they've compromised away their soul. They no longer have positions and instead resort to baby kissing and softballs instead of having real issue-centered debates. I don't think it's power that corrupts them so much as the fear of losing power.

torchbearer
12-24-2008, 05:10 PM
Politicians are usually both stupid and evil. They're short-sighted and worry only about their re-election so that they can do more "good" for their community. They keep compromising, meeting with local Unions and PACs, giving them what they want in hopes for a campaign endorsement or other contribution (forming sub-governments/"Iron Triangles"). They do "case work" instead of thinking/writing/speaking about policy, where they "cut through the red tape" to show a citizen that they care. Pretty soon, they've compromised away their soul. They no longer have positions and instead resort to baby kissing and softballs instead of having real issue-centered debates. I don't think it's power that corrupts them so much as the fear of losing power.

well, now you are just being rational.
You really need to stop.

Where are the good flaming threads and insults?
Come on... :)

Kludge
12-24-2008, 05:12 PM
well, now you are just being rational.
You really need to stop.

Where are the good flaming threads and insults?
Come on... :)

It didn't take a long answer to give an explanation effectively. I'm lazy, not just a troll :p

torchbearer
12-24-2008, 05:14 PM
It didn't take a long answer to give an explanation effectively. I'm lazy, not just a troll :p

I am afraid when I see the moments of your genius...

syborius
12-24-2008, 05:28 PM
Everything that happens is not a conspiracy. The world is much too complex for a few people to be steering it like some choose to believe. To believe that there are a few guiding the entire thing is to believe they have god-like powers. I don't care what Alex Jones says. It's not rational thinking. These people are not god-like - they're typical dumbed down selfish human beings who happen to be in powerful positions. To get caught up in all this and believe this is part of some massive hidden agenda is childish. Do people conspire behind closed doors and do bad things? Yes. Do they control the whole f-ing world? No.

Yes, very rational, case in point. The good people of Europe, holding hands, in song and dance, getting together in a voice of unison to form the European Union, for the benefit of the everyone. It's really lovely how so many people can decide for all of Europe what benefits all of them the most.............................................. ........... :cool:

torchbearer
12-24-2008, 05:31 PM
Yes, very rational, case in point. The good people of Europe, holding hands, in song and dance, getting together in a voice of unison to form the European Union, for the benefit of the everyone. It's really lovely how so many people can decide for all of Europe what benefits all of them the most.............................................. ........... :cool:

good point.

The U.S. government was put together by only a handful of influential people.
The movements of vast resources has always been in the hands of a few people.

Truth Warrior
12-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Everything that happens is not a conspiracy. The world is much too complex for a few people to be steering it like some choose to believe. To believe that there are a few guiding the entire thing is to believe they have god-like powers. I don't care what Alex Jones says. It's not rational thinking. These people are not god-like - they're typical dumbed down selfish human beings who happen to be in powerful positions. To get caught up in all this and believe this is part of some massive hidden agenda is childish. Do people conspire behind closed doors and do bad things? Yes. Do they control the whole f-ing world? No.

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The One
12-24-2008, 06:35 PM
Everything that happens is not a conspiracy. The world is much too complex for a few people to be steering it like some choose to believe. To believe that there are a few guiding the entire thing is to believe they have god-like powers. I don't care what Alex Jones says. It's not rational thinking. These people are not god-like - they're typical dumbed down selfish human beings who happen to be in powerful positions. To get caught up in all this and believe this is part of some massive hidden agenda is childish. Do people conspire behind closed doors and do bad things? Yes. Do they control the whole f-ing world? No.


You're not looking high enough, and you don't understand how they utilize their power and wealth to influence the shaping of the world.

liberteebell
12-24-2008, 06:55 PM
Everything that happens is not a conspiracy. The world is much too complex for a few people to be steering it like some choose to believe. To believe that there are a few guiding the entire thing is to believe they have god-like powers. I don't care what Alex Jones says. It's not rational thinking. These people are not god-like - they're typical dumbed down selfish human beings who happen to be in powerful positions. To get caught up in all this and believe this is part of some massive hidden agenda is childish. Do people conspire behind closed doors and do bad things? Yes. Do they control the whole f-ing world? No.

Forget Alex Jones. Who needs him if you have one of the players actually admitting it:

"Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world." ~Henry Kissinger

Incidentally, I've been reading about this conspiracy stuff for years. I've heard Alex Jones' radio show exactly one time and I've only read articles from his website on occasion; cross referencing them to other sources because it sometimes seems so far fetched.

Once I understood the monetary system and how it works, all the pieces of the puzzle fell into place. Yes indeed, I believe that they intend to control the whole f-ing world and everyone and everything in it.

zach
12-24-2008, 07:37 PM
It wouldn't have helped his image more if he would've said:

"I believe that mysterious human beings have all-powerful ways that control the world and are making shit hit the fan."

Regardless if he believes that, he probably realizes that being cautious in saying things is what's giving him a more positive image these days.

Kludge
12-24-2008, 07:40 PM
"I believe that mysterious human beings have all-powerful ways that control the world and are making shit hit the fan."

Anyone else just imagine this happening as though it were an Ed Wood film?


Brown pieces of styrofoam being inched closer to a fan via visible string as it cuts to lame reaction shots to a ridiculously dressed Ron Paul watching from his styrofoam alien ship which is on fire.

Truth Warrior
12-24-2008, 07:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations)

Arklatex
12-24-2008, 08:34 PM
"I'm beginning to think that maybe they don't care that it doesn't work..."

I'm sorry, but that sounded horribly naive. How could he not see this fact already?

I think Dr. Paul is very cordial and nice. I believe he has details even. I'm sure he catches stories in the wind.

zach
12-24-2008, 09:25 PM
Brown pieces of styrofoam being inched closer to a fan via visible string as it cuts to lame reaction shots to a ridiculously dressed Ron Paul watching from his styrofoam alien ship which is on fire.

Ha! :D I can try to imagine that.

DeadheadForPaul
12-24-2008, 10:31 PM
everything that happens is not a conspiracy. The world is much too complex for a few people to be steering it like some choose to believe. To believe that there are a few guiding the entire thing is to believe they have god-like powers. I don't care what alex jones says. It's not rational thinking. These people are not god-like - they're typical dumbed down selfish human beings who happen to be in powerful positions. To get caught up in all this and believe this is part of some massive hidden agenda is childish. Do people conspire behind closed doors and do bad things? Yes. Do they control the whole f-ing world? No.

+1776

Truth Warrior
12-25-2008, 07:47 AM
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

surf
12-25-2008, 11:33 PM
TPTB is...?

i don't have a pod

heavenlyboy34
12-25-2008, 11:38 PM
TPTB is...?

i don't have a pod

The Powers That Be.

heavenlyboy34
12-25-2008, 11:39 PM
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
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