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ghengis86
12-18-2008, 10:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/18/paterson.obesity/index.html

Gov. of New York wants to tax soda, for the sake of the children.

Like many New Yorkers, I remember a time when nearly everyone smoked. In 1950, Collier's reported that more than three-quarters of adult men smoked. This epidemic had a devastating and long-lasting impact on public health.

Today, we find ourselves in the midst of a new public health epidemic: childhood obesity.

What smoking was to my parents' generation, obesity is to my children's generation. Nearly one out of every four New Yorkers under the age of 18 is obese. In many high-poverty areas, the rate is closer to one out of three.

That is why, in the state budget I presented last Tuesday, I proposed a tax on sugared beverages like soda. Research has demonstrated that soft-drink consumption is one of the main drivers of childhood obesity.

For example, a study by Harvard researchers found that each additional 12-ounce soft drink consumed per day increases the risk of a child becoming obese by 60 percent. For adults, the association is similar.

If we are to succeed in reducing childhood obesity, we must reduce consumption of sugared beverages. That is the purpose of our proposed tax. We estimate that an 18 percent tax will reduce consumption by five percent.

Our tax would apply only to sugared drinks -- including fruit drinks that are less than 70 percent juice -- that are nondiet. The $404 million this tax would raise next year will go toward funding public health programs, including obesity prevention programs, across New York state.

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The surgeon general estimates that obesity was associated with 112,000 deaths in the United States every year. Here in New York state, we spend almost $6.1 billion on health care related to adult obesity -- the second-highest level of spending in the nation.

Last year, legitimate concerns about links between consumption of fast food and the prevalence of heart disease prompted New York City to ban the use of trans fats in restaurant food.

No one can deny the urgency of reducing the rate of obesity, including childhood obesity. Obesity causes serious health problems like type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. It puts children at much greater risk for life-threatening conditions such as cardiovascular disease and cancer.

We must never stigmatize children who are overweight or obese. Yet, for the sake of our children's health, we have an obligation to address this crisis. I believe we can ultimately curb the obesity epidemic the same way we curbed smoking: through smart public policy.

In recent decades, anti-smoking campaigns have raised awareness. Smoking bans have been enacted and enforced. And, perhaps most importantly, we have raised the price of cigarettes.

In June, New York state raised the state cigarette tax an additional $1.25. According to the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, this increase alone will prevent more than 243,000 kids from smoking, save more than 37,000 lives and produce more than $5 billion in health care savings.

These taxes may be unpopular, but their benefits are undeniable. Last month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that, for the first time in generations, fewer than 20 percent of Americans smoked. Lung cancer rates have finally begun to decline. As a result, we are all healthier.

Just as the cigarette tax has helped reduce the number of smokers and smoking-related deaths, a tax on highly caloric, non-nutritional beverages can help reduce the prevalence of obesity.

To address the obesity crisis, we need more than just a surcharge on soda. We need to take junk food out of our schools. We need to encourage our children to exercise more. And we need to increase the availability of healthy food in underserved communities.

But to make serious progress in this effort, we need to reduce the consumption of high-calorie drinks like nondiet soda among children and adults.

I understand that New Yorkers may not like paying a surcharge for their favorite drinks. But surely it's a small price to pay for our children's health.

satchelmcqueen
12-18-2008, 11:24 PM
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I understand that New Yorkers may not like paying a surcharge for their favorite drinks. But surely it's a small price to pay for our children's health."


lets just tax the air. and the blood flow rate in our veins. for the childrens sake.:mad:

jkm1864
12-19-2008, 06:35 AM
Fucking Bullshit .... Taxing is not going to get rid of the problem. The problem is kids are spending to much time in front of a damn play station instead of running outside and playing. Now schools have gotten rid of PE which in turn makes kids more fat and lazy. They drug them up for ADHD when all they need to do is take them outside and make them run for 45 minutes a day.

kathy88
12-19-2008, 06:40 AM
Fucking Bullshit .... Taxing is not going to get rid of the problem. The problem is kids are spending to much time in front of a damn play station instead of running outside and playing. Now schools have gotten rid of PE which in turn makes kids more fat and lazy. They drug them up for ADHD when all they need to do is take them outside and make them run for 45 minutes a day.

qft

cybloo
12-19-2008, 06:49 AM
Maybe if the gov't weren't subsidizing corn, High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) wouldn't be the main ingredient to these sodas. This is the perfect example of trying to fix gov't intervention with more gov't intervention.


Because it is metabolized by the liver, fructose does not cause the pancreas to release insulin the way it normally does. Fructose converts to fat more than any other sugar. This may be one of the reasons Americans continue to get fatter. Fructose raises serum triglycerides significantly. As a left-handed sugar, fructose digestion is very low. For complete internal conversion of fructose into glucose and acetates, it must rob ATP energy stores from the liver.21

Not only does fructose have more damaging effects in the presence of copper deficiency, fructose also inhibits copper metabolism--another example of the sweeteners double-whammy effect. A deficiency in copper leads to bone fragility, anemia, defects of the connective tissue, arteries, and bone, infertility, heart arrhythmias, high cholesterol levels, heart attacks, and an inability to control blood sugar levels.22

Although these studies were not designed to test the effects of fructose on weight gain, the observation of increased body weight associated with fructose ingestion is of interest. One explanation for this observation could be that fructose ingestion did not increase the production of two hormones, insulin and leptin, that have key roles in the long-term regulation of food intake and energy expenditure.23

Source: http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/highfructose.html


If New York wants to make a difference, then they need to seek to repeal farming subsidies, sugar quotas, and whatever other mess the US gov't decided to fuck around with that makes HFCS a prevalent/cheap sweetener.

tangent4ronpaul
12-19-2008, 07:55 AM
Just nuke the Micky D's distribution warehouses and the problem would magically go away....

-t

Elwar
12-19-2008, 08:08 AM
Yes, they've been working on this on Obama's advisory board for over a month now:

http://www.theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=181

"...I have a weight problem. And its all because of places like McDonalds... We need to have Obama introduce a program where we can tax the fast food restaurants.. Perhaps either by grams of fat, or number of calories and then give that money to the people so they can buy healthier foods.. maybe even organic food..."

Dorfsmith
12-19-2008, 08:57 AM
I remember telling people a couple years ago that this was going to happen. It was more of a joke but I guess some bad jokes come true :(

cybloo
12-19-2008, 09:16 AM
It's quite disturbing that some say that it's the gov't's role to help people lose weight. Because I want the gov't to control what goes in my mouth more than they already do...

Truth Warrior
12-19-2008, 09:28 AM
Smoking often tends to suppress appetite. :D

Feenix566
12-19-2008, 09:49 AM
Why do you guys hate children?

(sarcasm)

Feenix566
12-19-2008, 09:52 AM
If anybody in government actually cared about children, they'd stop running up the national debt. They're mortgaging our children's future!

malkusm
12-19-2008, 09:57 AM
If anybody in government actually cared about children, they'd stop running up the national debt. They're mortgaging our children's future!

They should want us all to be fat and unhealthy. Maybe that way our shorter life spans will reduce their obligations in Social Security, etc.

Jeremy
12-19-2008, 10:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4YbZ7iXFDA