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Kotin
12-17-2008, 03:09 PM
http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx

Kotin
12-17-2008, 03:10 PM
bump

Texan4Life
12-17-2008, 03:12 PM
thx

LibertyEagle
12-17-2008, 03:26 PM
Does anyone have a link to what Alex was saying about the info directing from the war college? I know about the troops, but Alex said a few things that I had not heard. "engage the American people", etc. Does anyone have a link to this?

pacelli
12-17-2008, 03:30 PM
"Knowledge is the answer to the problems that we have today"-RP

Ok, is there a specific reason why Ron Paul didn't plug the campaign for liberty during the entire interview?

Bruno
12-17-2008, 03:43 PM
"Knowledge is the answer to the problems that we have today"-RP

Ok, is there a specific reason why Ron Paul didn't plug the campaign for liberty during the entire interview?


for the same inexplicable reason he hardly ever plugs it

revolutionary8
12-17-2008, 03:56 PM
Does anyone have a link to what Alex was saying about the info directing from the war college? I know about the troops, but Alex said a few things that I had not heard. "engage the American people", etc. Does anyone have a link to this?

Here you go LE


A recent report produced by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Institute warns that the United States may experience massive civil unrest in the wake of a series of crises which it has termed “strategic shock.”

The report, titled Known Unknowns: Unconventional Strategic Shocks in Defense Strategy Development, also suggests that the military may have to be used to quell domestic disorder.

“Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,” the report, authored by [Ret.] Lt. Col. Nathan Freir, reads.

“Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters are all paths to disruptive domestic shock.” it continues.

“An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home…”

“Already predisposed to defer to the primacy of civilian authorities in instances of domestic security and divest all but the most extreme demands in areas like civil support and consequence management, DoD might be forced by circumstances to put its broad resources at the disposal of civil authorities to contain and reverse violent threats to domestic tranquility. Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.” Lt. Col. Freir concludes.

See Pages 31-32 (PDF) for quoted sections.

Freir is a Senior Fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). He joined the think tank in April 2008 after retiring from the U.S. Army after 20 years as a lieutenant colonel. In his role at CSIS he rubs shoulders with a whole host of globalist luminaries including Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft and Richard Armitage.

Echoing recent comments made by Pentagon advisors, along with other notable figures such as Colin Powell and Joe Biden, Freir also warns that the incoming Obama administration should prepare for a “first term crisis” that could act as a catalyst for such unrest.

“The current administration confronted a game-changing ’strategic shock’ inside its first eight months in office,” the report reads. “The next administration would be well-advised to expect the same during the course of its first term. Indeed, the odds are very high against any of the challenges routinely at the top of the traditional defense agenda triggering the next watershed inside DoD [Department of Defense].”

More at link

http://http://www.prisonplanet.com/army-strategic-shock-report-says-troops-may-be-needed-to-quell-us-civil-unrest.html

anaconda
12-17-2008, 04:01 PM
I listened for many minutes and heard nothing from RP. Is it way way into the program or somethin'?

wizardwatson
12-17-2008, 04:05 PM
"Knowledge is the answer to the problems that we have today"-RP

Ok, is there a specific reason why Ron Paul didn't plug the campaign for liberty during the entire interview?

Other things going on?

http://www.free-nefl.com/

dannno
12-17-2008, 04:05 PM
Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj7_HdKK6Cg


Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr-L5WXIT7o

ClayTrainor
12-17-2008, 04:12 PM
Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj7_HdKK6Cg


Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr-L5WXIT7o

Thanks man!

I look forward to RP and AJ discussions more than i look forward to any TV Show or Movie...:cool:

pacelli
12-17-2008, 04:33 PM
Other things going on?

http://www.free-nefl.com/

Seems like Ron is distancing himself from the CFL. I just received an email about his FREE foundation, and a snail mail letter from Ron advertising FREE.

No mention of CFL in either one.

I'm thoroughly confused. What in the hell?

danberkeley
12-17-2008, 04:43 PM
Seems like Ron is distancing himself from the CFL. I just received an email about his FREE foundation, and a snail mail letter from Ron advertising FREE.

No mention of CFL in either one.

I'm thoroughly confused. What in the hell?

Why would he distance himself from CFL?

wizardwatson
12-17-2008, 04:53 PM
Seems like Ron is distancing himself from the CFL. I just received an email about his FREE foundation, and a snail mail letter from Ron advertising FREE.

No mention of CFL in either one.

I'm thoroughly confused. What in the hell?

I think there is a lot of skepticism about any major short term change occurring in world events from the Austrian community-Ron Paul included. I find this kind of paradoxical considering Praxeology and Mises whole "Human Action" theory was really a 'rage' against skepticism in the realm of economics.

So while a lot of the Rockwells, and RP's, and Hoppes feel it their duty to participate in many of these grass-roots activity, I don't think they have that fire in them that says we can do great things if we only try.

Like many of RP's supporters, I think a lot of the Austrian's, like Schiff and others see mass destruction before any real change will occur. My opinion has been for quite a few years, that this is due to a severe lack in any real strategic planning. All truly strategic planning has been isolated in the sphere of grass roots political action. Everyone sees that this avenue is severely blocked and controlled but we keep hammering away at it as if it's our only option.

The ones that see this reality simply say, "we need to focus on education". Yes, we need education, but we also need to develop strategies that go beyond grass roots political action.

My favorite chapter in Ethics of Liberty is the last one. It starts off with this paragraph.


THE ELABORATION OF A systematic theory of liberty has been rare enough, but exposition of a theory of strategy for liberty has been virtually nonexistent. Indeed, not only for liberty, strategy toward reaching any sort of desired social goal has been generally held to be catch-as-catch-can, a matter of hit-or-miss experimentation, of trial and error. Yet, if philosophy can set down any theoretical guidelines for a strategy for liberty it is certainly its responsibility to search for them. But the reader should be warned that we are setting out on an uncharted sea.

Even the great Rothbard recognized that the area of strategic planning in libertarian theory is an uncharted sea. It really disappoints me that he didn't give more grass roots pointers on how communities could develop their own banking systems given how much time he devoted to pointing out the flaws in centralized FRB's.

We need a Jeet Kune Do of social strategy.

Freedom Forever
12-17-2008, 06:32 PM
Did everyone get emails about his FREE Foundation?

dannno
12-17-2008, 06:45 PM
I did