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danny987
12-17-2008, 12:01 PM
What if we chose a day a month or two away, and blanketed all our cities with pro-liberty fliers? Or better yet, what if all the signs were the same? Im talking a sign on every block, every telephone poll, and an ad in every paper. I think if we all posted the same sign it would show unity, and let everyone (including the government) know just how many of us their really is. I'm sure there is at least one of us in every city. comments?

SamuraisWisdom
12-17-2008, 12:04 PM
That would cost a lot of money and would be extremely difficult to coordinate. Though I do think that if it actually did happen, and it all went according to plan with all of the signs being exactly the same, it would garner some attention. But the question is, then what? What does that accomplish exactly? I think the best way we can allocate resources is into educating people through talking with them. I've noticed that there's a lot of people dissatisfied with government action lately, so now's the time to express our views through conversation.

hadenough
12-17-2008, 12:09 PM
Exactly. We have to strike while the iron is hot. Right now, I believe we have a window of opportunity to spread knowledge of this corrupt institution that calls itself the Government. Get Informed. Get Moving. Spread The Word.

AJ Antimony
12-17-2008, 12:10 PM
No effect.

Instead, recruit a lot of people to a liberty meetup or something. Get like 500-1000 people. Then you can have a sign bomb.

danny987
12-17-2008, 12:12 PM
That would cost a lot of money and would be extremely difficult to coordinate. Though I do think that if it actually did happen, and it all went according to plan with all of the signs being exactly the same, it would garner some attention. But the question is, then what? What does that accomplish exactly? I think the best way we can allocate resources is into educating people through talking with them. I've noticed that there's a lot of people dissatisfied with government action lately, so now's the time to express our views through conversation.

The signs could be educational. ;)


I came up with this theory the other day. I think about 1/3 people currently are very dissatisfied with our government. Seriously ask someone for their impression of the average politician. Chances are the words corrupt, stupid, morons, etc.. come up. I think the major reason that no one is doing anything is because they have the "I am only one man" idea stuck in their head. If they knew that there was 10's of millions just like them, i think they would be a little more active.

danny987
12-17-2008, 12:15 PM
No effect.

Instead, recruit a lot of people to a liberty meetup or something. Get like 500-1000 people. Then you can have a sign bomb.


Us Ron Paulian's Have been known for our communication over the internet. Even if i had a meet up of a 1000 people that meet up still couldn't post signs across the country.

fr33domfightr
12-17-2008, 12:58 PM
Us Ron Paulian's Have been known for our communication over the internet. Even if i had a meet up of a 1000 people that meet up still couldn't post signs across the country.


No you couldn't, but you can put up signs in your area. When everyone coordinates together, we can cover the whole country.


FF

TonySutton
12-17-2008, 01:03 PM
Maybe if we use signs like this

http://cache.consumerist.com/assets/images/consumerist/2008/05/boston-guerilla-bomb-scare_02.jpg

fr33domfightr
12-17-2008, 01:03 PM
That would cost a lot of money and would be extremely difficult to coordinate. Though I do think that if it actually did happen, and it all went according to plan with all of the signs being exactly the same, it would garner some attention. But the question is, then what? What does that accomplish exactly? I think the best way we can allocate resources is into educating people through talking with them. I've noticed that there's a lot of people dissatisfied with government action lately, so now's the time to express our views through conversation.


I think a coordinated FREEWAY/HIGHWAY sign bomb could help get a message out. I'd go with "END THE FED.US" and make sure good information is there to lead them to the petition, online meetups, and activism.


FF

CableNewsJunkie
12-17-2008, 01:07 PM
We need a site to coordinate harmless 'flashmob' type activities.

Perhaps RPF can add a section to the forum where flashmob events could be unveiled on a weekly / monthly / quarterly basis - to keep the grassroots motivated and facilitate better coordination.

Maybe there could be Flashmob Fridays or something...who knows.

There are a lot of good ideas out there, so one of the problems would be in deciding which events would be promoted. Maybe an online poll could help solve that problem.

psywarrior13
12-17-2008, 01:33 PM
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

-Samuel Adams


If I didn't know any better I would swear Samuel Adams was referring to RPF'ers. :D

I like the idea. Just my .02 Cents

tangent4ronpaul
12-17-2008, 02:13 PM
The US highway system can be generalized a 5 highways E2W and 7 highways N2S - so that's 35 places where these cross x 2-4 signs at each intersection (ideally 4) with one placed leading up to or just past the intersection - say one exit, and probably just before is best as people will be looking at signs for directions at that point.

Add to this the roughly 111 beltways in the country x at least 6 signs per beltway and we could reach at least half the population of the US - especially if it was done on a major travel holiday like Labor day.

That's about 810 sighns - might be worth producing centrally and distributing via mail along with suggestions for the general area to hang them. What is that about 10 rolls of tyvex? - maybe $1,500 in materials all told?

0) Target issue / date.

1) Message planning - short, sweet memorable and ideally doubles as a web site address.

2) Web site development with positive, simple actions people can take.

3) Supplementary publicity - newspaper ads and being guests on talk shows.

4) Contact and build teams in every state - OCH still has contact with many meetup organizers / groups or we could do mass postings to the Meetups themselves like we did for the March, etc.

5) banner manufacture - including lead time to get materials and cut stencils.

6) reconnaissance of best locations to hang and alternates as well as route planning for banner hanging routes. Also check out traffic patterns so we can get them up right before busy times to guarantee max display time and viewership.

7) D-Day - do it!

It wouldn't be that hard to pull off, but we need a bit better coordination, placement and timing than in the past. The really big thing is placement! - in past sign bombs, many were placed where they didn't get much viewership - but on the flip side, there is something to be said for repeated views.

-t

tangent4ronpaul
12-17-2008, 02:23 PM
how about a web site like: Brace4Hyper-Inflation.com

sign:

WARNING:

Brace4Hyper-Inflation.com

I think that is going to trigger the curiosity gene a bit better than something like EndTheFed.com as the Fed is kind of an abstract concept and most people think it's part of the government.

Also, as to a date - the RETURN trip of a holiday will be best as many going out of town won't have Internet access but on their way home, it will be fresh in their mind and they will soon be checking their e-mail.

-t

tangent4ronpaul
12-17-2008, 03:23 PM
List of Beltways:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beltways

-t

EastWindRain
12-17-2008, 06:12 PM
A sign bomb is a good idea. It is easy to do, and it gets the people off their computers and out into the streets.

How about "Obama Election Illegal! He wasn't born in US. Birth Certificate is FORGED"

Just like the current front page of the globe.

If just 4 people in every major city participated, and got out about 400 signs between them, it would make National News. Then the supreme court would have to listen. Obama would get disqualified, and there would be a new election. Ron Paul would then have another great shot at President.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll248/tere98/Globe.jpg

All we have to do is make up a flyer. Then print one copy off, and take it somewhere where cheap photocopying can be done for under 5 cents a copy. 400 x 0.05 = $20 bucks. Divided by 4 is $5 dollars each!

So say we had 200 cities participating. That is only 200 cities x 4 people = 800 people is all to bring about National Media Attention, which quite possibly will lead to a real shake up of the Zionist system. If the flyer was ready to go, people could head off to distribute their 100 flyers each. One could staple up 100 flyers in about 2-3 hours.

tangent4ronpaul
12-17-2008, 07:28 PM
re: fliers - reach 0.025% of the population at a cost of $4,000
vs
banners: - reach 50% of the population for $1,500

I'm probably a bit off here (rounded), but do crunch some numbers...

Current US population is 304,000,000 people. So to reach half of them would only cost half a million (I'm assuming a 1 cent a copy bulk discount on printing) and as at our peak we had under 20,000 supporters, assuming they would all distribute them - that would be only 7,100 fliers to be distributed per person...

Personally I like banners and from looking at traffic stats, I know that 2/3rds of the state population drives on our local beltway EVERY DAY!

The math should be pretty close, but again I did round a bit. Number checking encouraged!

-t

mczerone
12-17-2008, 07:49 PM
Obama would get disqualified, and there would be a new election. Ron Paul would then have another great shot at President.

....

So say we had 200 cities participating. That is only 200 cities x 4 people = 800 people is all to bring about National Media Attention, which quite possibly will lead to a real shake up of the Zionist system.

You can make your own posters.

1) Ron Paul wouldn't then have any better shot at the presidency than he had before.

2) People don't care that Obama may not have been born here, at least not enough to make it a serious issue already

3) "Zionist" is a term that implies a different leadership cabal would be more preferable to you. Perhaps you are not looking for Liberty, but for a WASP controlled system?

4) People wouldn't remember what we stood for, and would just lump our cause in with the rest of the Republicans fighting Obama's citizenship.

I don't have time to donate, but get some good posters and a good distribution plan together, and let me know where to donate.

slacker921
12-17-2008, 08:06 PM
A sign bomb went off in SC for Ron Paul.. there were signs everywhere. There were more Ron Paul signs than Huckabee or McCain signs. How did Paul do in SC? Signs aren't going to do the trick.

Get a good, slick TV infomercial or 60 sec ad and run it. Run it a lot. Or better yet, get 10 short ads that each inform on a very specific fact or concept and cycle those at random for a couple of weeks. Want an example? Go ask random people at the mall if they support T. Boone Pickens energy plan.

The corporate advertising budgets are waaaay down which means the media is desperate for advertising revenue. This is the time to get a bargain, and if we had an organization like the Campaign for Liberty that was effective at organizing and motivating then the money for an advertising campaign could be pulled together and could lay the groundwork for 2010 campaigns.

cska80
12-17-2008, 08:33 PM
I like to write random things in public bathrooms while I'm working (on the road). My latest and favorite is "...Socialism will kill you, your kids and your grandkids. Read history, stupid."

tangent4ronpaul
12-17-2008, 11:14 PM
The corporate advertising budgets are waaaay down which means the media is desperate for advertising revenue. This is the time to get a bargain

Could be good for us...



if we had an organization like the Campaign for Liberty that was effective at organizing and motivating...

I think you just defined the problem...

C4L + effective at (advertising / organizing / motivating) = oxymoron!

-t