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ItsTime
12-14-2008, 11:34 AM
Time to start using other search engines. Now I see why Obama and Google are in bed together.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/12/googlewashing_revisited/page2.html

Try http://Ant.com

tropicangela
12-14-2008, 11:54 AM
Post suggestions here.

M House
12-14-2008, 11:57 AM
I used to use Altavista and Lycos till I decided just to go with google almost exclusively for the shear amount of content. I don't know how good those are these days.

Andrew Ryan
12-14-2008, 12:00 PM
I guess I'll start using Yahoo search or Ask.

evilfunnystuff
12-14-2008, 12:00 PM
man this sux i havent found a seach engine even remotely as good as google

cuil and ixquick were a couple of newer ones recomended to me but both were pretty lame imo i really hope someone out there has a decent alternative

M House
12-14-2008, 12:02 PM
Isn't Yahoo powered by google or something?

Kludge
12-14-2008, 12:04 PM
Your source (a small foreign website) doesn't appear to have a source...

torchbearer
12-14-2008, 12:04 PM
here: http://www.copernic.com/en/products/agent/index.html

Search from all search engines at once.

JoshLowry
12-14-2008, 12:05 PM
Basically the article says that if a search result is voted down by thousands of what I imagine to be power users, then they would remove the result.

I actually trust google the most, I believe they are the least evil of search engines.

Yahoo is bad bad bad bad bad.

http://www.votemotion.com/images/yahoo1thumb.jpg (http://www.votemotion.com/images/rpyahoo1.gif) http://www.votemotion.com/images/yahoo2thumb.jpg (http://www.votemotion.com/images/rpyahoo2.gif)

torchbearer
12-14-2008, 12:10 PM
here: http://www.copernic.com/en/products/agent/index.html

Search from all search engines at once.

added some info: WEB SEARCHING

More than 90 search engines grouped into 10 categories
Elimination of duplicates and broken links
Web page preview

evilfunnystuff
12-14-2008, 12:10 PM
Your source (a small foreign website) doesn't appear to have a source...

its source is google


Today, Google's cute little explanation of being "uniquely democratic" is no longer present on that page. A subtly different explanation has taken its place - one which acknowledges that in the new democracy of Web 2.0, some votes are more equal than others.

PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts a vote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value, thus giving the linked page greater value. We have always taken a pragmatic approach to help improve search quality and create useful products, and our technology uses the collective intelligence of the web to determine a page's importance.


added some info: WEB SEARCHING

More than 90 search engines grouped into 10 categories
Elimination of duplicates and broken links
Web page preview

nice


Basically the article says that if a search result is voted down by thousands of what I imagine to be power users, then they would remove the result.

I actually trust google the most, I believe they are the least evil of search engines.

the head of google attended bilderburg this year and now they are changing the system so that some will have greater power in determining what is worthy for us to see. i dunno but i dont like the sounds of that.

Kludge
12-14-2008, 12:34 PM
its source is google

Yesterday, Barack Obama said he was going to resign.

JoshLowry
12-14-2008, 01:02 PM
Yesterday, Barack Obama said he was going to resign.

lol source plz

Kludge
12-14-2008, 01:03 PM
lol source plz

Source is Barack Obama :p

Knightskye
12-14-2008, 01:08 PM
You make it sound like Google will be doing the "censorship".

The way the article looked - to me - is that Google would become like Digg, and HuffPo and Paulites would control all the results.

evilfunnystuff
12-14-2008, 01:12 PM
Source is Barack Obama :p

http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html

BeFranklin
12-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Basically the article says that if a search result is voted down by thousands of what I imagine to be power users, then they would remove the result.

I actually trust google the most, I believe they are the least evil of search engines.

Yahoo is bad bad bad bad bad.

http://www.votemotion.com/images/yahoo1thumb.jpg (http://www.votemotion.com/images/rpyahoo1.gif) http://www.votemotion.com/images/yahoo2thumb.jpg (http://www.votemotion.com/images/rpyahoo2.gif)

I've had one of my websites removed from google adsense for religious opinions on the pedophile priest scandal and the pope.

This was in the earlier days before it became widely known. So the censorship had a political purpose.

Censorship is censorship. Search engines need to be decentralized, and use a more peer-to-peer type of technology. It might be slower, but it will be more accurate.

JoshLowry
12-14-2008, 01:17 PM
I've had one of my websites removed from google adsense for religious opinions on the pedophile priest scandal and the pope.

This was in the earlier days before it became widely known. So the censorship has a political purpose.

Censorship is censorship. Search engines need to be decentralized, and use a more peer-to-peer type of technology. It might be slower, but it will be more accurate.

Keywords are "least evil", Google is far from perfect. :)

That's a neat idea.

JoshLowry
12-14-2008, 01:19 PM
Search engines need to be decentralized, and use a more peer-to-peer type of technology. It might be slower, but it will be more accurate.

Just found this: http://www.faroo.com/

via google... :p

Kludge
12-14-2008, 01:21 PM
//

libertarian4321
12-14-2008, 01:22 PM
I sometimes use goodsearch.com . It may not be better than the others (uses yahoo search), but every search gives a penny to the charity of your choice.

gls
12-14-2008, 01:49 PM
I use Live.com strictly for the free airline miles... www.getsearchperks.com

inibo
12-14-2008, 02:57 PM
Your source (a small foreign website) doesn't appear to have a source...

Actually, http://www.theregister.co.uk/ is not all that small, at least not among the technogeek community. I suspect almost everyone in the IT industry reads it at least once a day. I know I do.

inibo
12-14-2008, 03:01 PM
Just found this: http://www.faroo.com/

via google... :p


http://www.faroo.com/images/linux.gif Linux version coming soon.

I'm a sad penguin. :(

BeFranklin
12-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Actually, http://www.theregister.co.uk/ is not all that small, at least not among the technogeek community. I suspect almost everyone in the IT industry reads it at least once a day. I know I do.

Yes, "biting the hide that feeds IT". Lol.

I read it off and on. You're right, it isn't that small. I didn't read Kludge's comments that way initially, because it isn't. Probably bigger than slashdot (who can read through all those comments).

ItsTime
12-14-2008, 03:03 PM
Try http://Ant.com

BeFranklin
12-14-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm a sad penguin. :(

Lol. Maybe I'll try running Linux on my new laptop. It worked well for what I wanted, and never crashed. Than I moved to a laptop and had potential driver troubles, but that was years ago.

Linux *STILL* worked better than windows. It never crashed.

BeFranklin
12-14-2008, 03:12 PM
Try http://Ant.com

Ach, Ron Paul forums comes in second place, for a thread on Ron Paul jokes.

http://ant.com/web/ron%20paul%20forums

Edit: some old posts there.

Slist
12-14-2008, 03:23 PM
I actually propose two search engines:

http://www.exalead.com/

and

http://www.clusty.com/

And for all those having "privacy issues" with google: scroogle.org. It hides your queries so that google cannot find out for what you searched.

Freedom 4 all
12-14-2008, 03:37 PM
Post suggestions here.

www.goodsearch.com You can give to charity too for free by searching. I like America's Second Harvest.

rpfan2008
12-14-2008, 04:18 PM
http://devilfinder.com/

Agent CSL
12-14-2008, 06:41 PM
Being the techipony I am, I flipped my head when I saw Google's new features. This can only mean disaster. The system is going to be used against all sorts of websites that people don't like.

Knightskye
12-14-2008, 06:48 PM
Just found this: http://www.faroo.com/

via google... :p

Other than the spelling/grammar errors, it looks pretty cool.

ShowMeLiberty
12-14-2008, 06:54 PM
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r304/webby65/scroogle/kmarx2.gif


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r304/webby65/scroogle/goostep2.gif


www.scroogle.org

www.dogpile.com

akihabro
12-16-2008, 01:14 AM
I'm sure that what everyone has loved about the internet is the complete freedom of information. I guess they feel the need to curb our fantasies, craving for information or entertainment. Boo! Yes I have noticed some sites omitted from different searches I've done. I wonder if the traditional media (TV and newspapers) have had a hand in this idea or the reason for this.

porcupine
12-16-2008, 11:37 AM
People are posting alternatives without considering whether the alternatives do the exact same thing Google does.

hypnagogue
12-16-2008, 05:56 PM
There is potential for abuse in the changes being discussed, but we can't say how it will really turn out. I mean, what types of editorial decisions will they be making? Will it be, "This site has better features and a bigger community," or will it be, "This site is more favorable to democrats/republicans/martians/whoever." We can't say.

Yes it's a mistake, and it undermines Google's usefulness, but it's too much to start declaring them CIA whitewashers.