Star Trek = NWO

[FreedomFighter8008]

Has anyone else noticed this? Think about it: several different planets all under one government aka the Federation aka NWO. Creepy.

[Kotin]

ok..

the idea of a one world government in itself is not a sinister or even bad idea.. just when it is for control and enslavement..


and it seems to work just fine in star trek ;)

[FreedomFighter8008]

I was thinking more like they were using the show to program us into thinking it's a good idea. Sorry, I'm in conspiracy mode tonight. ;)

[vodalian]

The world government in star trek is far different than what Alex Jones talks about. The philosophy in star trek is that humanity comes together towards a common goal, space exploration and survival. They realized that humanity is insignificant in the grand scheme of things that it's far more logical to work together as a species rather than being split up into tons of fractions and fighting over scraps. The NWO Alex Jones talks about involves humanity becoming slaves to a small group of people who run the world.

[FreedomFighter8008]

The world government in star trek is far different than what Alex Jones talks about. The philosophy in star trek is that humanity comes together towards a common goal, space exploration and survival. They realized that humanity is insignificant in the grand scheme of things that it's far more logical to work together as a species rather than being split up into tons of fractions and fighting over scraps. The NWO Alex Jones talks about involves humanity becoming slaves to a small group of people who run the world.

Good point.

[Athan]

Thats why I GREATLY prefer star wars over the trek.
Hate getting socialist shit preached to me.

[jonahtrainer]

the idea of a one world government in itself is not a sinister or even bad idea.. just when it is for control and enslavement..

That is the only purpose of government. The problem is having firms that provide 'equity and justice' having a monopoly over a geographic region. Individuals should not have to move to change 'equity and justice' provider firms. That increased competition would provide a higher quality of 'equity and justice' at a lower cost. The monopoly gives a lower quality for a higher price.

[Alawn]

ok..

the idea of a one world government in itself is not a sinister or even bad idea.. just when it is for control and enslavement..


and it seems to work just fine in star trek ;)

The idea is bad no matter how well intentioned it is.

[lucius]

Has anyone else noticed this? Think about it: several different planets all under one government aka the Federation aka NWO. Creepy.

Nice observation--psyop term is called predictive programming.

[Theocrat]

I wonder if that is what the new Star Trek (http://www.startrekmovie.com/) movie is about.

[mavtek]

Star Trek is not a "One World Government" because the world is no longer the only place to Govern. The "World" is only one planet in a "Federation of Planets",while every planet has their own governments and their own laws. Technology has allowed trade and commerce to act much like we do now between states, except for them it's between planets. In a sense Star Trek and their prime directive have perfected the idea of a Libertarian Republic (with the exception of monetary policy).

[Xenophage]

You guys don't understand The Federation at ALL! Damn!

Every planet is sovereign! The Federation is a militiary and economic alliance between peaceful civilizations. Earth doesn't control Vulcan!

As far as the NWO goes, however, yeah. Earth is a one world government :)

[Conza88]

Star Wars > Star Trek.

And I ain't a nut invested in either of them. Completely unbiased perspective here. :)

[emazur]

The Venus Project as advocated by Zeitgeist Addendum reminded me of Star Trek. The Star Trek government was able to work because of such an abundance of resources, but there will never be such an abundance unless it is produced from capitalism. Venus Project is trying to skip a step - won't work.

[ihsv]

Gene Roddenberry was a globalist, and consequently used his Star Trek franchise to push that ideology. Global governance was a necessary step in creating a utopian future such as he presented onscreen.

[lucius]

These humanist-Masonic concepts remain firmly embedded within the science fiction genre. In an interview with humanist David Alexander, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry commented:

“As nearly as I can concentrate on the question today, I believe I am God; certainly you are, I think we intelligent beings on this planet are all a piece of God, are becoming God.” (568)

In addition to espousing this core precept of the humanist-Masonic religion, Roddenberry's Star Trek presented a technocratic world government under the appellation of the "Federation." Of course, one could argue that such concepts are simply part of an innocuous fiction concocted for entertainment. According to Bainbridge, however, there is "government-encouraged research" devoted to the realization of "the Star Trek prophecies" ("Memorials"). Apparently, the demarcations between fact and fiction are becoming increasingly indiscernible.

From this:

Fiction as a Precursor to Fact: Sci-fi "Predictive Programming" and the Emergent World Religion

- by Phillip D. Collins ©, Feb. 6th, 2005

The New Religious Consciousness

Aldous Huxley first presented the "scientific dictatorship" to the public imagination in his book Brave New World. In Dope, Inc., associates of political dissident Lyndon LaRouche claim that Huxley's book was actually a "mass appeal" organizing document written "on behalf of one-world order" (Dope, Inc. 538). The book also claims the United States is the only place where Huxley's "science fiction classic" is taught as an allegorical condemnation of fascism (Dope, Inc. 538). If this is true, then the "scientific dictatorship" presented within the pages of his 1932 novel Brave New World is a thinly disguised roman a clef--a novel that thinly veils real people or events--awaiting tangible enactment.

Such is often the case with "science fiction" literature. According to researcher Michael Hoffman, this literary genre is instrumental in the indoctrination of the masses into the doctrines of the elite:

“Traditionally, 'science fiction' has appeared to most people as an adolescent genre, the province of time-wasting fantasies. This has been the great strength of this genre as a vehicle for the inculcation of the ideology favored by the Cryptocracy. As J.H. Towsen points out in Clowns, only when people think they are not buying something can the real sales pitch begin. While it is true that with the success of NASA's Gemini space program and the Apollo moon flights more serious attention and respectability was accorded 'science fiction,' nonetheless in its formative seeding time, from the late 19th century through the 1950s, the predictive program known as 'science fiction' had the advantage of being derided as the solitary vice of misfit juveniles and marginal adults.” (205)

Thus, "science fiction" is a means of conditioning the masses to accept future visions that the elite wish to tangibly enact. This process of gradual and subtle inculcation is dubbed "predictive programming." Hoffman elaborates: "Predictive programming works by means of the propagation of the illusion of an infallibly accurate vision of how the world is going to look in the future" (205). Also dubbed "sci-fi inevitabilism" by Hoffman, predictive programming is analogous to a virus that infects its hosts with the false belief that it is:


Useless to resist central, establishment control.
Or it posits a counter-cultural alternative to such control which is actually a counterfeit, covertly emanating from the establishment itself.
That the blackening (pollution) of earth is as unavoidable as entropy.
That extinction ('evolution") of the species is inevitable.
That the reinhabitation of the earth by the "old gods" (Genesis 6:4), is our stellar scientific destiny. (8)


Memes (contagious ideas) are instilled through the circulation of "mass appeal" documents under the guise of "science fiction" literature. Once subsumed on a psychocognitive level, these memes become self-fulfilling prophecies, embraced by the masses and outwardly approximated through the efforts of the elite.

In addition to spreading virulent strains of thought, sci-fi has also been instrumental in the promulgation of Darwinism. For instance, the sci-fi literature of Freemason H.G. Wells would play an important role in promulgating the concept of evolution. J.P. Vernier reveals Wells' religious adherence to the concept of evolution and its inspiration on him as an author of science fiction:

“The impact of the theory of evolution on his [Wells'] mind is well known: it was first felt when he attended the Lectures of T.H. Huxley, at South Kensington, in 1884 and 1885, and, ten years later, evolution was to provide him with the fundamental theme of his "scientific romances" and of many of his short stories.”

- "Evolution as a Literary Theme in H.G. Wells's Science Fiction," 70

J.P. Vernier elaborates on the role of sci-fi literature, particularly Wells' "scientific romances," in promulgating evolutionary thought:

“Science fiction is admittedly almost impossible to define; readers all think they know what it is and yet no definition will cover all its various aspects. However, I would suggest that evolution, as presented by Wells, that is a kind of mutation resulting in the confrontation of man with different species, is one of the main themes of modern science fiction.”

- "Evolution as a Literary Theme in H.G. Wells's Science Fiction," 85

In Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future, Bishop Seraphim Rose expands on the role of sci-fi in the promulgation of evolutionary thought:

“The center of the science fiction universe (in place of the absent God) is man--not usually man as he is now, but man as he will 'become' in the future, in accordance with the modern mythology of evolution.” (73)

Reiterating Vernier's contention that the sci-fi notion of evolution is "a kind of mutation resulting in the confrontation of man with different species," Rose observes:

“Although the heroes of science fiction stories are usually recognizable humans, the story interest often centers about their encounters with various kinds of 'supermen' from 'highly-evolved' races of the future (or sometimes, the past), or from distant galaxies. The idea of the possibility of 'highly-evolved' intelligent life on other planets has become so much a part of the contemporary mentality that even respectable scientific (and semi-scientific) speculations assume it as a matter of course. Thus, one popular series of books (Erich von Daniken, Chariots of the Gods?, Gods From Outer Space) finds supposed evidence of the presence of 'extraterrestrial' beings or 'gods' in ancient history, who are supposedly responsible for the sudden appearance of intelligence in man, difficult to account for by the usual evolutionary theory.” (73)

According to Rose, science fiction's traditional depiction of religion suggests that the future will inherit a nebulous and indefinable spirituality:

“Religion, in the traditional sense, is absent, or else present in a very incidental or artificial way. The literary form itself is obviously a product of the 'post-Christian' age (evident already in the stories of Poe and Shelley). The science fiction universe is a totally secular one, although often with 'mystical' overtones of an occult or Eastern kind. 'God,' if mentioned at all, is a vague and impersonal power, not a personal being (for example, the 'Force' of Star Wars, a cosmic energy that has its evil as well as good side). The increasing fascination of contemporary man with science fiction themes is a direct reflection of the loss of traditional religious values.” (73)

Expanding on the "mystical" themes of sci-fi, researcher Carl Raschke asserts that the literary genre invariably extends itself into the realm of the occult:

“The snug relationship between occult fantasy and the actual practice of the occult is well established in history. Writers such as H.P. Lovecraft and Edgar Rice Burroughs, progenitor of the Tarzan and Jane tales, were practicing occultists.” (303)

Raschke explains that sci-fi presents a future that has rediscovered the occult traditions of its past:

“Increasingly, science fiction with its vistas of the technological future intertwines with the neopagan and the medieval. The synthesis was first achieved with polished artistry in Lucas' Star Wars trilogy.” (398)

Eloquently summarizing the close correlation between science fiction and occultism, Raschke states: "Science fiction, 'science fantasy,' pure fantasy, and the world of esoteric thought and activity have all been intimately connected historically." (303)

Clearly, such ideas are fantastic to say the least. Yet, they have been given serious credence by contemporary scientists:

“Serious scientists in the Soviet Union speculate that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was due to a nuclear explosion, that 'extraterrestrial' beings visited earth centuries ago, that Jesus Christ may have been a 'cosmonaut,' and that today 'we may be on the threshold of a 'second coming' of intelligent beings from outer space.' Equally serious scientists in the West think the existence of 'extraterrestrial intelligences' likely enough that for at least 18 years they have been trying to establish contact with them by means of radio telescopes, and currently there are at least six searches being conducted by astronomers around the world for intelligent radio signals from space.” (Rose 73-74)

According to Rose, the sci-fi genre's influence upon science could, in turn, provoke a shift in religious thinking:

“Contemporary Protestant and Roman Catholic 'theologians'--who have become accustomed to follow wherever 'science' seems to be leading - speculate in turn in the new realm of 'exotheology' (the 'theology of outer space') concerning what nature the 'extraterrestrial' races might have (see Time magazine, April 24, 1978). It can hardly be denied that the myth behind science fiction has a powerful fascination even among many learned men of our day.” (74)

In his final assessment of science fiction, Rose concludes that this ostensibly "scientific and non-religious" genre is, in truth, the "leading propagator (in a secular form) of the 'new religious consciousness'" that is gradually supplanting Christianity (77). Laced with occultism and intimations of an emergent pagan spirituality, science fiction could be facilitating a paradigm shift in religious thinking.

Secularization: A Segue for Humanism

Such a paradigm shift could already be underway. Among one of its chief "evangelists" is William Sims Bainbridge, sociologist and member of the National Science Foundation. Bainbridge concerns himself predominantly with the development of a new world religion, which he dubs the "Church of God Galactic." Expanding on the characteristics intrinsic to such a church, Bainbridge suggests, "its most likely origins are in science fiction" ("Religions for a Galactic Civilization").

According to Bainbridge, secularization provides the religio-cultural segue for this new religion. Examining the sociological phenomenon of secularization, Bainbridge makes an interesting observation:

“Secularization does not mean a decline in the need for religion, but only a loss of power by traditional denominations. Studies of the geography of religion show that where the churches become weak, cults and occultism explode to fill the spiritual vacuum.”

- "Religions for a Galactic Civilization"

Secularization has been commonly associated with atheism. Indeed, past periods of secularization have seen the decline of theistic faiths and a general rejection of traditional notions of God. No doubt, the publication of Origin of the Species and the subsequent widespread promotion of evolutionary thought had this effect. However, periods of secularization do not represent the obliteration of religion, but the preparation of the dominant religio-cultural milieu for the arrival of a new religion. Secularization and its correlative, atheism, only act as a catalyst for an enormous paradigm shift. This begins with the realization of a significant philosophical paradox intrinsic to atheism. Authors Ron Carlson and Ed Decker explain this intrinsic paradox:

“It is philosophically impossible to be an atheist, since to be an atheist you must have infinite knowledge in order to know absolutely that there is no God. But to have infinite knowledge, you would have to be God yourself. It's hard to be God yourself and an atheist at the same time!” (17)

In order to be philosophically consistent, the atheist must eventually conclude that he/she is a god. Whittaker Chambers, former member of the communist underground in America, revealed the name of this faith in one's own intrinsic divinity:

“Humanism is not new. It is, in fact, man's second oldest faith. Its promise was whispered in the first days of Creation under the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil: 'Ye shall be as gods.'” (Qutd. in Baker 206)

Simply stated, humanism is the religion of self-deification. Its god is Man, spelled with a capital M to denote the purported divinity intrinsic to humanity. Of course, this was also the religion of Freemasonry. In fact, humanism and Masonry have shared a long historical relationship. In The Keys of this Blood, deceased Vatican insider Malachi Martin examined the emergence of "a network of Humanist associations" throughout early-Renaissance Italy (518-19). These organizations represented:

“a revolt against the traditional interpretation of the Bible as maintained by the ecclesiastical and civil authorities, and against the philosophical and theological underpinnings provided by the Church for civil and political life.” (519)

Although these groups espoused an ostensible belief in God, their notions of a Supreme Being were largely derivative of the Kabbala:

“Not surprisingly given such an animus, these associations had their own conception of the original message of the Bible and of God's revelation. They latched onto what they considered to be an ultrasecret body of knowledge, a gnosis, which they based in part on cultic and occultist strains deriving from North Africa-notably, Egypt-and, in part, on the classical Jewish Kabbala.” (519)

Thirty-third Degree Freemason Albert Pike revealed that "all the Masonic associations owe to it [the Kabbala] their Secrets and their Symbols" (Pike 744). According to Martin, however, this ancient Hebraic doctrine was modified considerably by the early humanists:

“Whether out of historical ignorance or willfulness of both, Italian humanists bowdlerized the idea of Kabbala almost beyond recognition. They reconstructed the concept of gnosis, and transferred it to a thoroughly this-worldly plane. The special gnosis they sought was a secret knowledge of how to master the blind forces of nature for a sociopolitical purpose.” (519-20)

Many of the semiotic artifacts comprising the early humanists's iconography and jargon were also directly related to Masonry:

“Initiates of those early humanist associations were devotees of the Great Force--the Great Architect of the Cosmos--which they represented under the form of the Sacred Tetragrammaton, YHWH, the Jewish symbol for the name of the divinity that was not to be pronounced by mortal lips. They borrowed other symbols--the Pyramid and the All-Seeing Eye--mainly from Egyptian sources.” (Martin 520)

The Great Architect of the Cosmos, the All-Seeing Eye, and the Pyramid also comprise the esoteric semiology of Freemasonry. What is the explanation for all of these commonalities? According to Martin, these shared characteristics were the result of a merger between the humanists and the old Mason guilds:

“In other northern climes, meanwhile, a far more important union took place, with the humanists. A union that no one could have expected. In the 1300s, during the time that the cabalist--humanist associations were beginning to find their bearings, there already existed--particularly in England, Scotland and France-medieval guilds of men who worked with ax, chisel and mallet in freestone. Freemasons by trade, and God-fearing in their religion, these were men who fitted perfectly into the hierarchic order of things on which their world rested.” (521)

Evidently, there couldn't have been two organizations that were more diametrically opposed than Masonry and humanism:

“No one alive in the 1300s could have predicted a merger of minds between freemason guilds and the Italian humanists. The traditional faith of the one, and the ideological hostility to both tradition and faith of the other, should have made the two groups about as likely to mix as oil and water.” (Martin 522)

Nevertheless, the late 1500s would witness the amalgamation of these two groups (Martin 522). The most evident corollary of this organizational coalescence was a noticeable difference in recruiting practices:

“As the number of working or 'operative,' freemasons diminished progressively, they were replaced by what were called Accepted Masons--gentlemen of leisure, aristocrats, even members of royal families--who lifted ax, chisel and mallet only in the ultrasecret symbolic ceremonies of the lodge, still guarded by the 'Charges' and the 'Mason Word.' The 'speculative' mason was born. The new Masonry shifted away from all allegiance to Roman ecclesiastical Christianity.” (Martin 522)

Indeed, the new Masonic doctrine appeared to be one that thoroughly eschewed Christian concepts:

“There was no conceptual basis by which such a belief could be reconciled with Christianity. For precluded were all such ideas as sin, Hell for punishment and Heaven for reward, and eternally perpetual Sacrifice of the Mass, saints and angels, priest and pope.” (522)

The new Mason was no longer an architect of freestone. Instead, he was an architect of the technocratic Utopia mandated by Bacon's New Atlantis. His god was Man himself, an emergent deity sculpted by the Kabbalistic golem of nature through the occult process of "becoming." Of course, this concept would later be disseminated on the popular level as Darwinism and the world would call it "evolution."

These humanist-Masonic concepts remain firmly embedded within the science fiction genre. In an interview with humanist David Alexander, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry commented:

“As nearly as I can concentrate on the question today, I believe I am God; certainly you are, I think we intelligent beings on this planet are all a piece of God, are becoming God.” (568)

In addition to espousing this core precept of the humanist-Masonic religion, Roddenberry's Star Trek presented a technocratic world government under the appellation of the "Federation." Of course, one could argue that such concepts are simply part of an innocuous fiction concocted for entertainment. According to Bainbridge, however, there is "government-encouraged research" devoted to the realization of "the Star Trek prophecies" ("Memorials"). Apparently, the demarcations between fact and fiction are becoming increasingly indiscernible.

As science fiction vigorously proselytizes the masses in the humanist-Masonic religion, the spiritual vacuum left by secularization is being filled. As Bainbridge previously stated, the immediate elements to supplant the orthodox ecclesiastical authority are "cults and occultism" ("Religions for a Galactic Civilization"). The contemporary religious counterculture movement has most vividly expressed itself through the explosion of scientistic cults in the late twentieth and early twenty-first century. Bainbridge himself has been actively involved with some of these cults, which act as working models for his Church of God Galactic.

Building the Church of God Galactic

Examining the most promising model for the Church of God Galactic, Bainbridge makes the following recommendation:

“Today there exists one highly effective religion actually derived from science fiction, one which fits all the known sociological requirements for a successful Church of God Galactic. I refer, of course, to Scientology.”

- "Religions for a Galactic Civilization"

Indeed, Scientology meets all the prerequisites for Bainbridge's Church of God Galactic, one of which being the cult's origins with science fiction. Carl Raschke explains:

“L. Ron Hubbard, architect of the controversial religion known as Scientology, openly and consciously decided to convert his science fiction work into a working belief system upon which a "church" was set up.” (303)

As a derivation of science fiction, Scientology inherited a central feature of the genre: Darwinism. In Dianetics, Scientologist high priest L. Ron Hubbard reveals the movement's adherence to evolutionary thought:

“It is fairly well accepted in these times that life in all forms evolved from the basic building blocks: the virus and the cell. Its only relevance to Dianetics is that such a proposition works--and actually that is all we ask of Dianetics. There is no point to writing here a vast tome on biology and evolution. We can add some chapters to those things, but Charles Darwin did his job well and the fundamental principles of evolution can be found in his and other works. The proposition on which Dianetics was originally entered was evolution.” (69; emphasis added)

Darwinian thought is especially evident in Scientology's preoccupation with survival. In Dianetics, Hubbard opines: "The dynamic principle of existence is survival" (52). In this statement, one can discern echoes of the Darwinian mantra: "Survival of the fittest." Hubbard proceeds to enumerate four dynamics of survival. It is within the fourth dynamic that the astute reader will recognize Darwinism's corresponding religion of self-deification: "Dynamic four is the thrust toward potential immortality of mankind as a species"(53; emphasis added). Of course, immortality is a trait reserved only for gods. Again, the religious theme of man's evolutionary ascent towards apotheosis becomes evident.

Eventually, Hubbard's church of Scientology "suffered religious schisms which spawned other cults" (Bainbridge, "Religions for a Galactic Civilization). One of the resulting sects was the Process Church of Final Judgement, a satanic cult that was the subject of a five-year ethnographic study conducted by Bainbridge ("Social Construction from Within: Satan's Process"). Enamored with the group, Bainbridge praised the Process Church as a "remarkably aesthetic and intelligent alternative to conventional religion" ("Social Construction from Within: Satan's Process").

A deeper examination of this scientistic cult reveals that its adherents probably retained much of the Darwinian thought intrinsic to its progenitor, Scientology. One case in point is the theology of the group's founder, Robert de Grimston. Bainbridge delineates this theology:

“Robert de Grimston's theology was Hegelianism in the extreme. For every thesis (Christ, Jehovah) there was an antithesis (Satan, Lucifer), and the cult aimed to achieve a final synthesis of all these dichotomies in the rebirth of GOD. Indeed, one way of explaining the failure of The Process is to note that it promised a Heaven on earth to members, yet it delivered something less.”

- "Social Construction from Within: Satan's Process"

Like Processean theology, Darwinian evolution also exhibits an inherently Hegelian framework. The organism (thesis) comes into conflict with nature (antithesis) resulting in a newly enhanced species (synthesis), the culmination of the evolutionary process (Marrs, Circle of Intrigue, 127). A similar dialectical framework was distilled in an allegorical form by H.G. Wells, a Freemason and protégé of Darwinian apologist T.H. Huxley. W. Warren Wagar elaborates:

“In the symbolic prologue to The Undying Fire, he [Wells] even likened the opposition of essence and existence to the interplay of good and evil. God was here represented as the inscrutable creator, who created things perfect and exact, only to allow the intrusion of a marginal inexactness in things through the intervention of Satan. God corrected the marginal uniqueness by creation at a higher level, and Satan upset the equilibrium all over again. Satan's intervention permitted evolution, but the ultimate purpose of God was by implication a perfect and finished and evolved absolute unity.” (104-05)

The Processeans shared Wells' notion of Satan, which portrayed the Devil as a necessary element of instability:

“For Processeans, Satan was no crude beast but an intellectual principle by which God could be unfolded into several parts, accomplishing the repaganization of religion and the remystification of the world.”

- Bainbridge, "Social Construction from Within: Satan's Process"

This portrait of an ongoing dialectical conflict echoes the Masonic dictum: Ordo Ab Chao (Latin for Order out of Chaos). The dialectical process underpins evolution, which began with the Masonic doctrine of "becoming." The final goal of a repaganized world synchronizes very well with Freemasonic occultism. All comprise the new religious consciousness being promulgated by science fiction. This is the future that the masses are being conditioned to accept by sci-fi predictive programming.

In Religion and the Social Order, Bainbridge presented the following mandate:

“It is time to move beyond mere observation of scientistic cults and use the knowledge we have gained of recruitment strategies, cultural innovation, and social needs to create better religions than the world currently possesses. At the very least, unobtrusive observation must be supplemented by active experimentation. Religions are human creations. Our society quite consciously tries to improve every other kind of social institution, why not religion? Members of The Process, founded mainly by students from an architecture school, referred to the creation of their cult as religious engineering, the conscious, systematic, skilled creation of a new religion. I propose that we become religious engineers.”

To understand what sort of faith is being sculpted by the technocratic "religious engineers," one need only look to Scientology and the Process Church. Both of these scientistic cults, awash in Darwinism and its corresponding humanist-Masonic religion of apotheosized Man, are microcosms for an emergent one-world religion.

Heralding the Technocratic Messiah

Of course, a new world religion requires a new world messiah. There is even a messianic legacy within Masonic mythology. Thirty-third degree Mason Albert Pike states:

“Behold the object, the end, the result, of the great speculation and logomachies of antiquity; the ultimate annihilation of evil, and restoration of Man to his first estate, by a Redeemer, a Masayah, a Christos, the incarnate Word, Reason, or Power of Diety.” (274)

The astute reader will immediately notice the capital M in "Man," denoting humanity's intrinsic divinity. Being a god was humanity's "first estate." Thus, the Masonic messiah is not the transcendent Creator incarnated as Jesus Christ. Instead, Masonry posits that the messiah is within Man himself. According to Masonic doctrine, humanity's cognizance of its innate divinity is integral to achieving apotheosis. Pike recapitulates:

“Thus self-consciousness leads us to consciousness of God, and at last to consciousness of an infinite God. That is the highest evidence of our own existence and it is the highest evidence of His.” (709)

As for the early Christians who believed that Jesus was the transcendent God clothed in flesh, Pike derisively portrays them as superstitious simpletons:

“The dunces who led primitive Christianity astray, by substituting faith for science, reverie for experience, the fantastic for the reality; and the inquisitors who for so many ages waged against Magism a war of extermination, have succeeded in shrouding in darkness the ancient discoveries of the human mind; so that we now grope in the dark to find again the key of the phenomena of nature.” (732)

Pike's reprimand concerning Christianity's substitution of faith for science betrays Masonry's scientistic proclivities. Earlier in human history, such scientistic belief was less powerful. However, in this post-Masonic era where the doctrine of the elite's epistemological cartel has been fully externalized, scientism rules the day. As such, the present scientistic society demands a scientistic messiah.

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[The One]

Star Trek=Dumbest and most annoying fucking TV series ever......Nanu, nanu

[V-rod]

Star Trek=Dumbest and most annoying fucking TV series ever......Nanu, nanu

Only someone who watched the show sporadically would say that. Could say that about any popular tv show. I "hate" Grey's Anatomy, but I seen about 2 episodes over 2 years. :D

[Chester Copperpot]

The beauty of Star Trek is that they dont use money because they have the replicator. Money becomes obsolete because people can have whatever they want, WHENEVER they want for free ala the replicator.. So all control of the people is lost.. People are free to do what they like.

Im sure on some part of the planet Earth in the Star Trek world there is a group of people toking up, getting high 24/7 even if its not shown.. 23rd century Amsterdam perhaps.

[Danke]

Star Trek=Dumbest and most annoying fucking TV series ever......Nanu, nanu

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[unconsious767]

Hmmm :p

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[literatim]

The Venus Project as advocated by Zeitgeist Addendum reminded me of Star Trek. The Star Trek government was able to work because of such an abundance of resources, but there will never be such an abundance unless it is produced from capitalism. Venus Project is trying to skip a step - won't work.

There is capitalism is Star Trek. Though certain things have no intrinsic value because they are so abundant due to technological advancement.


The beauty of Star Trek is that they dont use money because they have the replicator. Money becomes obsolete because people can have whatever they want, WHENEVER they want for free ala the replicator.. So all control of the people is lost.. People are free to do what they like.

Im sure on some part of the planet Earth in the Star Trek world there is a group of people toking up, getting high 24/7 even if its not shown.. 23rd century Amsterdam perhaps.

Though there is inconsistencies in the Star Trek universe. There does seem to be money in the Federation and trade among the various governments of the universe. The Federation currency is credits, they often gamble them when playing poker in the Next Generation. In Deep Space Nine, they pay for their drinks at Quark's bar, usually gold-pressed latinum. In the original Star Trek, in the episode 'The Doomsday Machine', Kirk mentions Scotty being paid for his work.

[Matt Collins]

The beauty of Star Trek is that they dont use money because they have the replicator. Money becomes obsolete because people can have whatever they want, WHENEVER they want for free ala the replicator.. So all control of the people is lost.. People are free to do what they like.



The Star Trek government was able to work because of such an abundance of resources, but there will never be such an abundance unless it is produced from capitalism.

The technology that would have to happen would be fusion combined with quantum computing. Once fusion happens energy will essentially be free. And we'll be able to separate molecules of anything into individual elements and then rebuild them as anything.

Gold? HA, ya just dump garbage into the fusion reactor and then reassemble the atoms the way you want and you get gold. SCARCITY WILL NO LONGER EXIST! And as the technology gets better things like food will be replicated.

It will completely change the face of humanity and economics as we know it will experience a paradigm shift similar to when Copernicus discovered the world was not the center of the universe and solar system.

I give us a century before we are there, two at most. This of course assumes we don't get bogged down in the welfare state, wars, self-ignorance, etc

There is a great lecture about this from an 80's physicist called Ripe Tomatoes and the Fusion Torch. If you can find it you should definitely watch it.

[literatim]

The technology that would have to happen would be fusion combined with quantum computing. Once fusion happens energy will essentially be free. And we'll be able to separate molecules of anything into individual elements and then rebuild them as anything.

Gold? HA, ya just dump garbage into the fusion reactor and then reassemble the atoms the way you want and you get gold. SCARCITY WILL NO LONGER EXIST! And as the technology gets better things like food will be replicated.

It will completely change the face of humanity and economics as we know it will experience a paradigm shift similar to when Copernicus discovered the world was not the center of the universe and solar system.

I give us a century before we are there, two at most. This of course assumes we don't get bogged down in the welfare state, wars, self-ignorance, etc

There is a great lecture about this from an 80's physicist called Ripe Tomatoes and the Fusion Torch. If you can find it you should definitely watch it.

You are assuming it can be done in the first place. Just because one can imagine something, doesn't mean it is physically possible.

[The One]

Only someone who watched the show sporadically would say that. Could say that about any popular tv show. I "hate" Grey's Anatomy, but I seen about 2 episodes over 2 years. :D

It sucks balls.

[Matt Collins]

You are assuming it can be done in the first place. Just because one can imagine something, doesn't mean it is physically possible.Oh it can definitely be done. But technology hasn't caught up to theory yet.

And even Einstein said "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."

He also said: "Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."

And "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."

And "To raise new questions, new possibilities, to regard old problems from a new angle, requires creative imagination and marks real advance in science."

[anaconda]

It is too bad that Rodenberry never really did an episode that dealt with a totalitarian power grab within the Federation and how it was equipped to handle such a situation.

[mediahasyou]

ok..

the idea of a one world government in itself is not a sinister or even bad idea.. just when it is for control and enslavement..


and it seems to work just fine in star trek ;)

all government is for control and enslavement :rolleyes:

[mediahasyou]

Dont make it easy for the statists. One world government means only one government needs to be manipulated.

[literatim]

Oh it can definitely be done. But technology hasn't caught up to theory yet.

You can't say it can be done until you actually do it.


And even Einstein said "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."

He also said: "Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."

And "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."

And "To raise new questions, new possibilities, to regard old problems from a new angle, requires creative imagination and marks real advance in science."

So?

[Peace&Freedom]

The absence of money is an unrealistic concept, considering that human excellence will be reflected in personal wealth---the top business execs, professionals, entertainers, etc. will always be financially better off than average people. This alone shows the Star Trek model is misleading.

[FreedomFighter8008]

Just found this on YouTube:

Old Star Trek Reveals How to Destroy the New World Order (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACxv767LR1A&feature=related)

LOL!!

[Matt Collins]

You can't say it can be done until you actually do it.
Anything humans can imagine can be done so long as it is not a logical fallacy or against the laws of physics. It's just a matter of technology, resources, and will.

[Matt Collins]

The absence of money is an unrealistic concept, considering that human excellence will be reflected in personal wealthI remember episodes of DS9 where latinum was used as a currency. So not all of Star Trek was without currency. However what is interesting is that latinum was always associated with the Ferengi race which was shown as greedy. Subliminal messages perhaps?

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Latinum

[A. Havnes]

Ah, Star Trek. The mind pressing questions, such as: Does it promote socialism? Does it mirror the UN? What about the Federation's foreign policy, and how Kirk seems to interpret it? How many illegitimate children do you suppose Kirk has? ;)

The Enterprise is a starship under the the United Federation of Planets, an organization that undermines each planet's sovereignty, but is still represented as a benevolent force. The Enterprise travels the known galaxies and beyond, in search of "new life and new civilizations" to recruit into the Federation. The only known governments that oppose the Federation are the Klingon Empire and Romulans. I've only watch TOS in its entireity, so I could be wrong about that.

I wouldn't say that it necessarily promotes socialism (the only thing I can think of would be an episode of Voyager that mentioned a New World Economy), but it's definately reminiscent of the United Nations. For example, the first clue should be what the Federation refers to as the "Constitution", which draws its inspiration, and some text even, from the United Nations Charter. In fact, it's official name is called the Charter of the United Federation of Planets, and the Federation's history is kind of like the UN as well.

Technically, each planet still maintains its own government (and did anyone other than me notice that each planet only seems to have a centralized government? No nations, kings, presidents, etc.), and the Federation isn't supposed to intervene in local governments, thus it's supposed to have a non-intervention foreign policy, but much like our own, it often breaks this rule and gets involved with settling disputes between planets of interest.

In fact, the Enterprise does a lot of interfering! Most of this is due to Kirk's own arrogance, and the fact that he doesn't often seem to bat an eye when either Spock or McCoy try and deter him from his plans. He readily prepares to intervene with all kinds of government systems, often times allowing his own philosophical ideals interfere with his work. I'm thinking of an episode in which he discovered a group of people who do not age or get sick, but they are very primitive, don't engage in sexual intercourse, etc. They are basically as Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and that is exactly what this episode alludes to.

Anyway, the people give sacrifices to a machine that was placed on the planet a long time ago, and the people believe it is a god. This machine is the reason for their extreme health and lifespan, but Kirk can't stand it. In Kirk's eyes, only people who strive towards progress, developing new technology, etc. are really "living", as he puts it. Spock claims that the people are happy, healthy, and don't need to build great cities and space ships, and McCoy gently reminds him of Starfleet's non-intervention policy. Naturally, Kirk defies them both and "liberates" the people, who will now know poverty, hunger, sickness, death, greed, etc. Was Kirk right? He very well may have been, but the point is that he defied the foreign policy, and he also didn't get reprimanded by Starfleet for it.

That's awfully nitpicky, but the Federation, and those subject to it, don't always have the best policies. It's a shame I don't know more about the Klingon Empire or the Romulans, because that would be very interesting.

And, finally, how many illegitimate children does Kirk have? :D We can only guess... He seems to pick up a new girl on every planet he visits, though. Wait, the episode I just used as an example is an exception.

Now, I like Star Trek and Star Wars both. However, I couldn't help but think, "Would Ron Paul campaign against the Federation if he were in Star Trek?"

[AJ Antimony]

Whether that's true or not, luckily for you star trek has a bad connotation when brought up in conversation

[itshappening]

money still exists in star trek for other species and commodities like 'latinum' are sought after like gold is for us and used in trading as I understand it though I think the original creator Roddenbury was insistant on there being no money they have softened it a bit with 'credits' but I think the guy was basically a communist...

however, lets not forget that in a star trek universe you can take off and go wherever you want so if you dont like earth/the federation and their way of doing things, you can go somewhere else (at warp speed) :D

[Pepsi]

I remember a few TNG episodes were they use Credits as money. In a DS9 episode they also talk about how the lion share of the wealth of the the Federation went to Earth.

[vodalian]

In star trek, humans don't trade amongst themselves because they have everything they could possibly want, they do use precious metal and technology for trading with other species though, normally to gain new technology or favors.

[ArrestPoliticians]

Has anyone else noticed this? Think about it: several different planets all under one government aka the Federation aka NWO. Creepy.

I disagree. If you have a bunch of aliens, the smallest unit of government would likely become the plant. A federation of planets would be like the U.S.

[CUnknown]

I love both Star Wars and Star Trek, but yeah, it's true that Star Trek has a strong political vision attached to it. Star Trek is a Utopian vision of the future in which the Earth has been united under one banner, where people hardly know scarcity, disease, or death anymore because the great minds who are controlling the world have eradicated them. Science is the ultimate good that can solve any problem. A lot is made in the show of the argument between science (Spock) v humanity and compassion (McCoy). In these arguments, Spock just about always wins (although he is made fun of constantly). In the Next Generation, Data takes Spock's place and shows the triumph of science through his very existence (he is a living miracle of science). Data saves the day in just about every other episode (in the other episodes, its Wesely Crusher who saves the day).

The Borg are the most powerful enemy in the Star Trek universe, and they have a way of life very similar to Starfleet's, actually. Unite for the common good, that is how they are so powerful. It's just that they give new planets no choice except to unite -- "Resistance is futile." Starfleet does the same thing, but instead uses reason and science to convince people to join of their own free will, but besides that it is the same.

Firefly is far, far superior to Star Trek and has a political message of freedom and individual soverignty. If you haven't seen it, check it out!

[A. Havnes]

Never heard of firefly. I'll have to do just that!

[mconder]

Has anyone else noticed this? Think about it: several different planets all under one government aka the Federation aka NWO. Creepy.

Havn't you ever noticed the "United Federation of Planets" logo is the same as the UN logo? This is why Star Wars is better...because they are rebels fighting against Empire instead of a bunch of New World Order bitches.

[mconder]

Star Trek is not a "One World Government" because the world is no longer the only place to Govern. The "World" is only one planet in a "Federation of Planets",while every planet has their own governments and their own laws. Technology has allowed trade and commerce to act much like we do now between states, except for them it's between planets. In a sense Star Trek and their prime directive have perfected the idea of a Libertarian Republic (with the exception of monetary policy).

No the Federation is a collective if NWO style planets. Please look at the Federation of Planets logo and compare it to the U.N. logo and tell me that was coincidence.

http://www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/StarTrek_UnitedFederationofPlanets_freedesktopwall paper_1600.shtml

[mconder]

Oh, by the way...if the Star Trek universe is so libertarian as some of you are saying, who pays for all those fancy space craft and sexy uniforms?

[CUnknown]

Omg, you've never heard of Firefly? Unfortunately, it was cancelled after only one season (really less than one, actually). There was a movie, though -- Serenity. The movie wasn't as good as the series, but it's still good, especially if you saw the show.

Firefly is the anti-Star Trek. The Star Trek guys are still around (they are called the Alliance), but they're the enemies. The captain of the ship (Mal) would have so voted for Ron Paul (if he would have voted at all, which I doubt). The other members of the crew aren't so libertarian, but Mal definitely is.

A Mal quote: "That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way."

Mal was a sergeant in the War for Unification -- he faught for the independents who resisted unification. The independents lost. Now he's a smuggler trying to make a living on the edge of the galaxy, it's great!

[John E]

Firefly was an awesome show and I had to buy it on DVD. Excellent Excellent Excellent!!

Star Trek has some conflicting information regarding money... on enterprise, with the exception of the occasional card games, there never is really reference to it. Everything appears to be magically available via the magical powers of the "replicator".

I am not a Trek fanatic but there were a few episodes in TNG and DS9 and Voyager reference a few interesting things such as the fact that the replicators and the warp drives run off a mineral that is very hard to find and very hard to mine. I want to say that there is almost a subservient subclass that essentially does this. Them or the equivilant of lower class citizens in the federation who are found on these often harsh and brutal worlds.

I also remember them saying that some items are so complex that it becomes to costly (in terms of raw supplies?) to replicate it. Latnum was one such item which is why "gold pressed latnum" was a commodity in DS9.

Mostly though these facts were glossed over except in Voyager where they were forced to conserve resources and went to great lengths like growing their own food.

[josephadel_3]

star trek = military ideology

[mavtek]

No the Federation is a collective if NWO style planets. Please look at the Federation of Planets logo and compare it to the U.N. logo and tell me that was coincidence.

http://www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/StarTrek_UnitedFederationofPlanets_freedesktopwall paper_1600.shtml

:) Ok Gene took a bit of the logo and ran with it, call it creative indulgence ala Shakespeare. He may have even liked the idea or the perception of the UN, personally I'm not against a "UN" style organization, just the current one. If we had a UN that literally had the credo of non-interference I might even support it. Imagine a UN that only helped when asked, or ran itself on a "Prime Directive". Utopian banter, maybe, after all it was a fantasy based TV show.

The most hilarious thing about this entire topic is the implication that Star Trek was a show that was construed to prepare us for World Government. Lets make sure these people living in 1967 are prepared for a 1 World Government by 2150! Sorry, I might be the only one who sees the ridiculousness in that.

Lets not forget what Star Trek did for freedom. An episode where a white man has an affair with a black woman in the 60's no less. An episode where an entire planet destroys itself because 1 race has white on 1 side of it's face and the other has black. The next generation brought us the 1st lesbian kiss! Lets not forget the incredible logic and rational that Spock brought to Kirk in his leadership, imagine if Bush had a Spock at his side these last 8 years. Things might be quite different.

[mavtek]

Oh, by the way...if the Star Trek universe is so libertarian as some of you are saying, who pays for all those fancy space craft and sexy uniforms?

That's quite simple actually. Energy and matter are almost 1 and the same in Star Trek. Titanium hulls are brought into existence from replicator or energy to matter transference. The traditional class based empires mine the di-lithium based crystals for a fusion process and the Federation pays for these crystals or finds them themselves. Energy is also vastly available via hydro electric power, solar, and wind.

In a fantasy situation like Star Trek, where material possessions are simply a wish a way it's hard to fantasize what life maybe like. If you do watch a lot of episodes you see many are attracted to science and exploration and some military. Unfortunately because the show is based on an exploration vehicle you rarely see the rest of the civilization as a whole. This is why I personally enjoyed Deep Space 9 so much as you could see how these future civilizations actually lived in an environment much like our own. Imagine a Star Trek where people were reporters, cooks, bartenders, miners, transporters, religious leaders, or even prophets. Fascinating indeed! To dismiss Star Trek and it's many iterations as socialist utopia is unfortunate because it's actually an expanse of many ideologies and many possibilities. The most important thing to remember is that it is truly artistic fantasy at it's best and that's what it is, so sit back, drink a beer and enjoy!

[Doktor_Jeep]

I once asked an old Trekky about this subject, and he stated that Gene Roddenberry got away with pushing "one world government" because he made it look to the American audience that the US would be the dominant group in it.


As usual, the trees cared not for the axe in the forest as they thought the handle was one of them.