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Cowlesy
11-28-2008, 09:12 AM
One trampled, one lady had a mis-carriage.

All for cheap ass junk from the chinese embassy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/28/2008-11-28_worker_dies_at_long_island_walmart_after.html


Hope they had cameras on the doors....

ShowMeLiberty
11-28-2008, 09:21 AM
It's really sad and I think it shows a desperation in people that didn't exist even a year ago. I've worked in retail on "Black Fridays" in years past. The crowds were elbow-to-elbow but I never saw this kind of "escape the burning building" mob mentality. Ever.

It's really scary too because this could end up being typical behavior at grocery stores if the worst-case-scenario predictions about our economy come true.

Cowlesy
11-28-2008, 09:28 AM
I think they should have locked and chained the doors behind those people. Leave them there for a year or two to think about what kind of drag they are on the gene pool.

Sandra
11-28-2008, 09:39 AM
They closed the store for the day. Long Island's Black Friday 2008 is no longer. Best Buy used to make customers take numbers for entry to avoid this crud.

acptulsa
11-28-2008, 09:48 AM
Long Island's Black Friday...

Gives whole new meaning to the term.

The jealousy, the greed is the unravelling, its the unravelling
And it undoes all the joy that can be.--Joni Mitchell

tonesforjonesbones
11-28-2008, 09:58 AM
This is disgusting. No wonder God is smiting the Usa. tones

LibertyEagle
11-28-2008, 10:22 AM
We're smiting ourselves, Tones. We're the ones who allowed our government to go to &^%%^.

danberkeley
11-28-2008, 11:47 AM
Oh noes! The Wal-Marts is evils! Grrr!

Kotin
11-28-2008, 11:50 AM
we're smiting ourselves, tones. We're the ones who allowed our government to go to &^%%^.

qft!

freedom-maniac
11-28-2008, 12:31 PM
Alas! Mobocracy, the inevitable fate of democracy...

One lone Wal-Mart employee versus a mob of shoppers....The majority ruled right over his trampled body.

Dustancostine
11-28-2008, 12:56 PM
Wal Mart should have chained the doors like the other poster suggested and then charged them all with involuntary manslaughter. Then not sold them crap.

Dieseler
11-28-2008, 01:27 PM
I wonder if the employees drew straws to see who would unlock the doors?

acptulsa
11-28-2008, 01:47 PM
One lone Wal-Mart employee versus a mob of shoppers....The majority ruled right over his trampled body.

Just when we get past using the word 'sheeple' they go and act for all the world like a herd of animals again...

zach
11-28-2008, 02:16 PM
Spend, spend, spend.. vicious cycle.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-28-2008, 02:52 PM
It's really sad and I think it shows a desperation in people that didn't exist even a year ago. I've worked in retail on "Black Fridays" in years past. The crowds were elbow-to-elbow but I never saw this kind of "escape the burning building" mob mentality. Ever.

It's really scary too because this could end up being typical behavior at grocery stores if the worst-case-scenario predictions about our economy come true.

We eat for enjoyment. The healthiest food to eat in the world is wheat grass and other grasses. Once a crop of this gets started, it costs nothing but water and sunlight to maintain perpetuatlly. But, we aren't here just for our health but for our happiness. I mean, wheat grass tastes horrible.
Still, feel comforted in knowing that we can all eat grass cheaply if government fails in its function of taking care of us. Just think of all that potential food stuff we mow wastefully?

weatherbill
11-28-2008, 03:06 PM
:mad:WALMART NEEDS TO GET SUED BIG TIME

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f55_1227894806

link to www.votemotion.com]

Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stamped
"A worker died after being trampled and a woman miscarried when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island Wal-Mart Friday morning, witnesses said."

link: ( [link to www.nydailynews.com]
submitted by: RonPaulFan 6 hours ago
category: News keywords: walmart

[link to www.nydailynews.com]

WAL-MART NEEDS TO GET SUED BIG TIME! THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING!!!

acptulsa
11-28-2008, 03:07 PM
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damania
11-28-2008, 03:22 PM
I hear the lines were short at the local Best Buys in the barrio neighborhoods.

Mini-Me
11-28-2008, 03:23 PM
Well, I sure hope the cheap TV was worth it. :rolleyes: Barbarians. :mad:

hopeforamerica
11-28-2008, 03:24 PM
The woman did not lose her baby. She was taken to the hospital for observation.

Dieseler
11-28-2008, 03:28 PM
Poor guy should have had a clue. Maybe Darwin was on to something when he said Survival of the fittest.
Would you have stood in front of those doors after seeing this?
http://cdnll-9.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899431.jpg?h=937838ca2677baa1eb6299e3d 2ee4089&e=1228511525&rs=150
or this?
http://cdnll-8.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899392.jpg?h=01fdaa709aa3070c41f36535a 1300cc9&e=1228511525&rs=150
or this?
http://cdnll-7.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899357.jpg?h=83cb34bc89f9c14ec1530dc1b 60865e2&e=1228511525&rs=150
If you would, be prepared for this,
http://cdnll-6.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899269.jpg?h=bf5dbe2f0aee728447669b09f bae5108&e=1228511525&rs=150
and your dumb ass deserves what you get.

damania
11-28-2008, 03:28 PM
I think the 30% off DVDs was the straw that broke the camel's back.

constituent
11-28-2008, 03:31 PM
the straw that broke the camel's back.

too soon.

heavenlyboy34
11-28-2008, 03:35 PM
Poor guy should have had a clue. Maybe Darwin was on to something when he said Survival of the fittest.
Would you have stood in front of those doors after seeing this?
http://cdnll-9.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899431.jpg?h=937838ca2677baa1eb6299e3d 2ee4089&e=1228511525&rs=150
or this?
http://cdnll-8.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899392.jpg?h=01fdaa709aa3070c41f36535a 1300cc9&e=1228511525&rs=150
or this?
http://cdnll-7.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899357.jpg?h=83cb34bc89f9c14ec1530dc1b 60865e2&e=1228511525&rs=150
If you would, be prepared for this,
http://cdnll-6.liveleak.com/s/18/media18/2008/Nov/28/1823771_1227899269.jpg?h=bf5dbe2f0aee728447669b09f bae5108&e=1228511525&rs=150
and your dumb ass deserves what you get.

I've been in some crazy black Friday situations, that's fuckin nuts! :eek:

damania
11-28-2008, 03:36 PM
Walmart creates unsuitable work place IN THE USA. Just ask the dead greeter.

danberkeley
11-28-2008, 03:39 PM
Walmart creates unsuitable work place IN THE USA. Just ask the dead greeter.

People usually learn from other people's mistakes.

constituent
11-28-2008, 03:41 PM
Walmart creates unsuitable work place IN THE USA. Just ask the dead greeter.

having worked at wal-mart myself, i can tell you that the worst thing about the workplace is the mgmt and the irremovable old folks that run the place, that and beating down customers for as a mechanism for containing/limiting their rampant stupidity is frowned upon.... though it certainly might have saved this guy's life.

f* dying on the job, i've always said that work is the one place where i absolutely refuse to die.

Anti Federalist
11-28-2008, 03:48 PM
And people wonder..."why all the guns AF"?

When the wheels fall off this crab cart, between the corrupt, out of control cops and the batshit, starving, feral mobs, you damn well better be well armed and know how to use them and be willing to use them. Even then, the odds are against you, but better to die standing on your feet than on your knees.

And that also brings up another point...

In what alternate reality are some of us in, to think that there can ever be any "education" of the roiling mob? In what bizarro world world can there be enough well made points and effective campaign strategies to think you could ever vote your way out this mess we are in, when stories like this indicate the mindset of the voting masses.

People who would do this, and I mean just standing around ready to riot over cheap Chinese shit at Wal-Marx, let alone actually trampling people to death over it, are so far divorced from my mindset and my reality that there can never be any unity of purpose, there can never be any reconciliation or common shared ground.

You people out there...fellow travelers...you want freedom, you want liberty? Well you better be prepared to TAKE it, to separate from the whole corrupt system and demand it!!!

Anything short of that and you are fucking jerking yourself off.

Jbrabble
11-28-2008, 03:51 PM
Walmart def does not need to be sued. The idiots who fucking trampled another human being to get some junk they could have bought any other day, should be arrested. Hold the actual criminals accountable not the store where it happened.

Nate K
11-28-2008, 03:52 PM
i wish they all died honestly. stupid people are clogging up this planet way too much.

Dorfsmith
11-28-2008, 03:52 PM
And people wonder..."why all the guns AF"?

When the wheels fall off this crab cart, between the corrupt, out of control cops and the batshit, starving, feral mobs, you damn well better be well armed and know how to use them and be willing to use them. Even then, the odds are against you, but better to die standing on your feet than on your knees.

And that also brings up another point...

In what alternate reality are some of us in, to think that there can ever be any "education" of the roiling mob? In what bizarro world world can there be enough well made points and effective campaign strategies to think you could ever vote your way out this mess we are in, when stories like this indicate the mindset of the voting masses.

People who would do this, and I mean just standing around ready to riot over cheap Chinese shit at Wal-Marx, let alone actually trampling people to death over it, are so far divorced from my mindset and my reality that there can never be any unity of purpose, there can never be any reconciliation or common shared ground.

You people out there...fellow travelers...you want freedom, you want liberty? Well you better be prepared to TAKE it, to separate from the whole corrupt system and demand it!!!

Anything short of that and you are fucking jerking yourself off.

I hate to say it but I think you're 100% correct. Sad reality.

lodge939
11-28-2008, 03:54 PM
They were just doing their patriotic duty as well - spending to keep the economy going.

Dorfsmith
11-28-2008, 04:03 PM
They were just doing their patriotic duty as well - spending to keep the economy going.

Well, Bush must be proud.

acptulsa
11-28-2008, 04:28 PM
In what alternate reality are some of us in, to think that there can ever be any "education" of the roiling mob? In what bizarro world world can there be enough well made points and effective campaign strategies to think you could ever vote your way out this mess we are in, when stories like this indicate the mindset of the voting masses.

As you well know, the roiling mob in the South was once trained by the establishment to grind minorities under its heel just so they could know deep in their hearts that they weren't the bottom of the totem pole, and would therefore not lynch instead the politicians who were robbing them blind. They are now educated differently, and much of that institution is now gone. No alternate reality, my friend, though it does seem like it to some graybeards around here.


People who would do this, and I mean just standing around ready to riot over cheap Chinese shit at Wal-Marx, let alone actually trampling people to death over it, are so far divorced from my mindset and my reality that there can never be any unity of purpose, there can never be any reconciliation or common shared ground.

I feel the same way. How, though, do you separate the wheat from the chaff? Until such a predicament arises and you see who stops in their tracks and risks getting knocked down and trampled themselves do you know who is who.


You people out there...fellow travelers...you want freedom, you want liberty? Well you better be prepared to TAKE it, to separate from the whole corrupt system and demand it!!!

Anything short of that and you are fucking jerking yourself off.

Agreed. But if you want to win, we have to enrich our numbers. And if you do that by any method but persuasion, you have become exactly like your enemy.

weatherbill
11-28-2008, 05:17 PM
wal-mart needs to get sued big time

Nate K
11-28-2008, 05:22 PM
sue the people, better yet - give them all lethal injection.

Leadman584
11-28-2008, 06:26 PM
Found a few videos on the tube from today's "festivities?". Hopefully Al Jazeera isn't putting these and other clips together for world consumption. When the Islamic viewers see American TV, at least we can claim it's fake. These are "normal" Americans in the videos.

Trying to save dead Wal-Mart worker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3wuAkNsd0

News report of the deadly stampede:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZSulclZd0

ToysRUs shooting report, 2 dead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NRIfEzN420

XBox 360 melee at Wal-Mart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-tBl_3Iwws

Best Buy campers at 11:30 Thanksgiving night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoAJGOCv1Go

Anti Federalist
11-28-2008, 06:54 PM
Since it appears that the mob was storming the store to buy electronic junk, made me think of this song:

Bad Religion - 21st Century Digital Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyHYuS0aMM)

"everything I want, I really don't need"

paulitics
11-28-2008, 07:26 PM
It's no way Walmarts fault, its those disgusting people, human life > $400 TV.

Is this what Christmas has become? Not a time to spend time with family, but a time to trample someone to death to make their family happy?

Oh come on, this was negligence. If there is a mob of 1,000 lunatics who are there waiting since midnight to be one of the few who gets their hands onthe latest greatest video game that walmart advertises is in short supply, well this is no surprise. This no longer becomes a shopping experience, but an aggressive stampede of low iq morons.

Blaming the crowd for their own stupidity is futile. The herdlike nature of humans will not change when conditions become favorable, esp when it is encouraged by an ad campaign targeting the emotional, primal instincts of the human brain.

Humans are irrational, and savages when in large numbers without any control. It was up to Walmart to safeguard this from happening. From what I have seen on the videos, they had no more than a couple minimum wage kids open the doors, to get trampled on.

Nautargos
11-28-2008, 07:42 PM
I have to wonder... People did this out of greed. Imagine what they'll do out of fear.

jkm1864
11-28-2008, 08:08 PM
Well when the food shortages begin You better get used to this behavior. It will be everyone for themselves so its about time to think of bug out plans. I would rather live on my fathers land in a tent than deal with idiots like that. Oh I was thinking they must be Obama supporters because they are sheep and it looks like I am right. These people are no better than cattle and even stampede like cattle for what 50 dollars off for a TV or a new doll. I am sure they will tell their children that they killed someone to get that new video game. I sure hope they feel guilty for killing a poor sap at wal mart. Not like his life wasn't crappy enough with low wages lets just kill him to put icing on the crap cake.

jkm1864
11-28-2008, 08:11 PM
Yeah I remember working at K-mart as a teen. The people were animals and had no respect for other human beings. I don't remember how many times I had to clean the rest room because people smeared crap all over the walls. I guess they felt they were getting one on the man but in reality I was the one that had to clean the fecal matter off the wall. I have lost all hope in humanity and its about time for a flush to wash all the crap down the drain.

Leadman584
11-28-2008, 08:28 PM
The XBox 360 video scared me the most. The deaths today seemed to be very isolated events. It is tragic that anyone is injured shopping. People battling over a game console is insane.

When we do finally see widespread food shortages, these people will be armed. If people will fight that hard for a game, how will they handle the last loaf of bread in the store?

Brassmouth
11-28-2008, 08:29 PM
It was up to Walmart to safeguard this from happening.

Huh?

I went to my local best buy and it was swarming with cops doing crowd control. Where the fuck were those pompous, overpaid pigs when that guy needed them? Nowhere of course. The idiots weren't even there despite a ridiculous crowd.

Don't blame Walmart for the incompetence of a bunch of government stooges.

The local police department is responsible for that man's death.

danberkeley
11-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Huh?

I went to my local best buy and it was swarming with cops doing crowd control. Where the fuck were those pompous, overpaid pigs when that guy needed them? Nowhere of course. The idiots weren't even there despite a ridiculous crowd.

Don't blame Walmart for the incompetence of a bunch of government stooges.

The local police department is responsible for that man's death.

I figured we could just blame the people who ran on top of employee.

christagious
12-01-2008, 09:34 AM
If this is what American society has become, I want nothing to do with it.

John of Des Moines
12-01-2008, 10:17 AM
Huh?

I went to my local best buy and it was swarming with cops doing crowd control. Where the fuck were those pompous, overpaid pigs when that guy needed them? Nowhere of course. The idiots weren't even there despite a ridiculous crowd.

Don't blame Walmart for the incompetence of a bunch of government stooges.

The local police department is responsible for that man's death.

Most of the time cops in the stores are off-duty and are allowed to wear the uniform or the city literally leases them out paying them overtime rates. Cops you see outside the stores in their cars or directing traffic in and out of the parking lots on to the city street are usually on-duty directly responsible to the city.

It's Walmart's fault. They knew or reasonably should have known that by running an ad with lower than normal sale prices it would likely cause a lot of sheeple to show up. It's no different then a concert promoter has a responsibility to ensure people get to their seats safely (recall a The Who concert in Cincinnati with open seating) Wally World had several reasonable options open to them such as handing out numbers tickets to the early bird sheeple, using them line snakes like at amusement parks, etc.

I'm sure they had let the media in a lot of their stores for the purpose of free advertising. And I'm sure somebody in the company knew of past incidents of sheeple shopper stampedes.

Yes, blame the sheeple as a whole for allowing themselves to be seduced into the "shop until the you drop attitude" but don't blame the sheeple there at the store per se. Once a mob of sheeple get going in a surge nobody can individually do anything to stop the rest of the sheeple.

qh4dotcom
12-01-2008, 08:33 PM
:(

qh4dotcom
12-01-2008, 08:37 PM
Wal Mart should have chained the doors like the other poster suggested and then charged them all with involuntary manslaughter. Then not sold them crap.

That was sad...but let's be fair...only the shoppers who stepped on the guy or touched him should be charged, particularly the ones who knocked him to the ground....not everyone did.

politicsNproverbs
12-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Just when we get past using the word 'sheeple' they go and act for all the world like a herd of animals again...

Didn't they act this same way back when those ugly Cabbage Patch dolls came out years ago? I remember hearing of out of control mobs and fights in the stores, etc. (however, I do not remember if anyone was ever killed over it).

This is terribly sad. The families must be heartsick.