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ryanduff
11-26-2008, 11:04 AM
Inside job? NYC was just talking about cutting subway lines, etc to save money...

http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/subway.terror.plot.2.874410.html


Feds Warn Of Terror Plot Against NYC Subways
Homeland Security: Expect Larger Police Presence In NYC And In Major Cities Across U.S. During Holidays
CBS News Interactive: America On Guard
NEW YORK (CBS/AP) ― Federal authorities are warning law enforcement personnel of a possible terror plot against the New York City subway and train systems during the holiday season, and police are beefing up security in preparation.

An internal memo obtained by The Associated Press says the FBI has received a "plausible but unsubstantiated" report that al-Qaida terrorists in late September may have discussed attacking the subway system.

A person briefed on the matter, speaking to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the intelligence-gathering work, said the threat may also be directed at the passenger rail lines running through New York, such as Amtrak and the Long Island Rail Road, which are particularly busy with Thanksgiving holiday travelers.

A U.S. counterterror official, also speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to do so publicly, said senior government officials have been briefed because the FBI very recently received credible information about possible attacks over the holiday season, and authorities are particularly concerned about this long holiday weekend.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko confirmed only that his agency and the Homeland Security Department issued a bulletin Tuesday night to state and local authorities, and the information is being reviewed.

Department of Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said the warning was issued as a routine matter, but added that there may be an increased police presence in New York and other large cities.

The internal bulletin says al-Qaida terrorists "in late September may have discussed targeting transit systems in and around New York City. These discussions reportedly involved the use of suicide bombers or explosives placed on subway/passenger rail systems," according to the document.

"We have no specific details to confirm that this plot has developed beyond aspirational planning, but we are issuing this warning out of concern that such an attack could possibly be conducted during the forthcoming holiday season," according to the warning dated Tuesday.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said they have received an unsubstantiated report and as a result have "deployed additional resources in the mass transit system."

While federal agencies regularly issue all sorts of advisory warnings, the language of this one is particularly blunt.

Intelligence and homeland security officials are working with local authorities to try to corroborate the information "and will continue to investigate every possible lead," the memo says.

Rep. Peter King, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, said authorities "have very real specifics as to who it is and where the conversation took place and who conducted it."

"It certainly involves suicide bombing attacks on the mass transit system in and around New York and it's plausible, but there's no evidence yet that it's in the process of being carried out," King said.

Knocke, the DHS spokesman, said the warning was issued "out of an abundance of caution going into this holiday season."

No changes are being made to the nation's threat level, or for transit systems at this time, he said.

"However, transit passengers in larger metropolitan areas like New York may see an increased security presence in the coming days," Knocke said.

The increased personnel could include uniformed and plainclothes "behavior detection" officers, federal air marshals, canine teams, and security inspectors, Knocke said.

acptulsa
11-26-2008, 11:06 AM
They're trying to make people afraid of NYC subways? Gee, that's not much of a challenge. They should set their sights a little higher...

SnappleLlama
11-26-2008, 11:07 AM
Don't they always warn us of a terrorist plot during the holidays?

Nirvikalpa
11-26-2008, 11:20 AM
Great, now the tickets will be cheap and no one is going to be on them! Hooray for joyriding to NYC all Thanksgiving and Christmas break!

PatriotLegion
11-26-2008, 11:20 AM
Yea it sounds like a fear job to me. I work 1 block from Time Square (42nd and 6th) I have the 3 subway lines less then a block work for me and a 10 min walk to either Grand Central or Penn Station. There are always heighten security/police presents around almost always. So IMO its business as usual for the MTA.

eric_cartman
11-26-2008, 11:34 AM
there are these threats and warnings all the time. the chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are probably as rare as getting stuck by lighting. nothing to freak out about. How many people are doing to die in car accidents this holiday season? how many men, women and children are going to die all around the world from starvation, preventable disease, war, crime, etc.? but for whatever reason, everyone is freaked out that someone MIGHT put a bomb on the subway. We are certain that all these other people will die for all these other horrible reasons, but we don't really care about that.

In Canada a few months ago, a guy got his head cut off for no reason when he was taking a greyhound bus. but am i worried that someone is going to cut my head off every time i take a bus... certainly not. but considering there have not been terrorist attacks in years, and we know that 9/11, 7/7, OKC, etc., were all inside jobs anyways.... it's crazy to think that people are still worried about this stuff. If they start happening all the time, then ya, maybe it would be time to start doing something about it, but until it starts happening, there's no real reason to freak out about it.

Agent CSL
11-26-2008, 12:08 PM
Don't they always warn us of a terrorist plot during the holidays?

Yep. :D

YES! Lower the price of tickets! I wasn't looking forward to paying $200 for a train ticket.

UtahApocalypse
11-26-2008, 12:10 PM
Funny, I just wrote this and posted:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=170257

LittleLightShining
11-26-2008, 12:23 PM
Well if they warn us and then something happens are we vindicated in our criticism of DHS?

qh4dotcom
11-26-2008, 06:20 PM
Terrorists don't need to attack again...here's why

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1EXKLVgEx0