Step 7: How to avoid communism by making people existentially significant.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Rather than just bail out the banks, the Federal government needs to split the cost and bail out the people likewise.

Why forgive the banks for their debt only to have the banks turn around and show no mercy towards the people for their debt?

The real solution is to bail out both the banks and the people and then finance that seeming absurdity by selling off land owned by the Federal government.

This is a nifty solution because it transfers power back to the states and the people. As Hegel pointed out, people can't be free unless they own property.

As it stands now, only bailing out the banks, and then further insuring that bail out, insures that wealth will transfer from other parts of the nation to the areas where the financial institutions are located. This will transfer wealth back to the regions of the nation populated mostly by Anglos. By both insuring the banks of their wealth and also fully forgiving the people of their debt by the selling off Federal land, the economy will continue expanding for all.

Of course, we need to close down the Federal government for a long while. The Federal government is a huge source of added income when taxes are slashed and the pay of Federal employees are cut by 30% across the board.

This Federal coruption reminds me of that part of the Apollo 13 movie when the full extent of the mission's crisis was finally realized. It was then determined that full power to the ship had to be shut off to save the vessel. That is our situation today. To save our nation, the powers of the Federal government need to be shut down as much as possible with only the life support systems left on.

Who are the banks lending to today? They are primarily lending to public projects. So, we need to shut down these public projects.

[Truth Warrior]

Rather than just bail out the banks, the Federal government needs to split the cost and bail out the people likewise.

Why forgive the banks for their debt only to have the banks turn around and show no mercy towards the people for their debt?

The real solution is to bail out both the banks and the people and then finance that seeming absurdity by selling off land owned by the Federal government.

This is a nifty solution because it transfers power back to the states and the people. As Hegel pointed out, people can't be free unless they own property.

As it stands now, only bailing out the banks, and then further insuring that bail out, insures that wealth will transfer from other parts of the nation to the areas where the financial institutions are located. This will transfer wealth back to the regions of the nation populated mostly by Anglos. By both insuring the banks of their wealth and also fully forgiving the people of their debt by the selling off Federal land, the economy will continue expanding for all.

Of course, we need to close down the Federal government for a long while. The Federal government is a huge source of added income when taxes are slashed and the pay of Federal employees are cut by 30% across the board.

This Federal coruption reminds me of that part of the Apollo 13 movie when the full extent of the mission's crisis was finally realized. It was then determined that full power to the ship had to be shut off to save the vessel. That is our situation today. To save our nation, the powers of the Federal government need to be shut down as much as possible with only the life support systems left on.

Who are the banks lending to today? They are primarily lending to public projects. So, we need to shut down these public projects.

"Socialism in America will come through the ballot box."
by: Gus Hall
[Arvo Gustav Halberg ] (1910-2000) leader of the Communist Party USA and its four-time U.S. presidential candidate
Source: in an interview with the Cleveland Plain-Dealer (1996)

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

"Socialism in America will come through the ballot box."
by: Gus Hall
[Arvo Gustav Halberg ] (1910-2000) leader of the Communist Party USA and its four-time U.S. presidential candidate
Source: in an interview with the Cleveland Plain-Dealer (1996)

Why forgive the banks for their debt only to have the banks turn around and show no mercy towards the people for their debt?

[Truth Warrior]

Why forgive the banks for their debt only to have the banks turn around and show no mercy towards the people for their debt?

SIR JOSIAH STAMP, (President of the Bank of England in the 1920's, the second richest man in Britain)

"Banking was conceived in iniquity, and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen, they will create enough deposits, to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."


"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." -- Lord Acton

[Aratus]

B.U.S or no B.U.S... either way, mr henry clay...

[pacelli]

Bail out the people, and shut down the public projects.

Can't wait for Step 8.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Bail out the people, and shut down the public projects.

Can't wait for Step 8.

It would be far cheaper for us all to be happy than to spend the trillions upon trillions of dollars necessary to create fifteen minutles of Hillary's dream. Indeed, such a dream would make us all responsible and equal for fifteen minutes before it all fell apart in shambles.
Sound familiar?

[Truth Warrior]

It would be far cheaper for us all to be happy than to spend the trillions upon trillions of dollars necessary to create fifteen minutles of Hillary's dream. Indeed, such a dream would make us all responsible and equal for fifteen minutes before it all fell apart in shambles.
Sound familiar? Collectivism SUCKS. And your's in particular. :p :rolleyes: All responsible, my ass.

[NYgs23]

It's not socialism so much as corporatism. Socialism is when you use the state apparatus to attempt to "level" the marketplace, supposedly to help the poor and the workers (not that it ever works out that way). Corporatism is when you use the state apparatus to deliberatly build up certain big business interests at the expense of everyone else.

[Truth Warrior]

It's not socialism so much as corporatism. Socialism is when you use the state apparatus to attempt to "level" the marketplace, supposedly to help the poor and the workers (not that it ever works out that way). Corporatism is when you use the state apparatus to deliberatly build up certain big business interests at the expense of everyone else. NWO from the socialist left or the socialist right. Mox nix! http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Collectivism SUCKS. And your's in particular. :p :rolleyes: All responsible, my ass.

Once again, you express a European point of view. Indeed, the American founding fathers they were existential in how they held the contentment of the American people as primary in purpose. But the complex concept of "collectivism" first needed the cognizant sciences to be developed which happened after the creation of our great nation.

[Truth Warrior]

Once again, you express a European point of view. Indeed, the American founding fathers they were existential in how they held the contentment of the American people as primary in purpose. But the complex concept of "collectivism" first needed the cognizant sciences to be developed which happened after the creation of our great nation. The individual vs. the collective, never ending battle, goes back to the prehistory of the species. Europe has NOTHING to do with it.

If anything, the base American viewpoint and value WAS on the individual.<IMHO> That was the D of I revolution and the "unalienable" TRUTH, merely betrayed by the treasonist Federalist coup of 1789. :( :p :rolleyes:

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

The individual vs. the collective, never ending battle, goes back to the prehistory of the species. Europe has NOTHING to do with it.

If anything, the base American viewpoint and value WAS on the individual.<IMHO> That was the D of I revolution and the "unalienable" TRUTH, merely betrayed by the treasonist Federalist coup of 1789. :( :p :rolleyes:

Were talking about context here.

For example, Cervantes used the genre of humor in "Don Quixote De La Mancha" while Mark Twain could define scientifically what and how he used humor as contrasted to how others used comedy. Comedy ended with the premise. Humor is hid as the premise in the middle of the paragraph while the narrator pretended to ignore it while continuing in dialogue with tongue in cheek seriousness. An example of this is how Huckleberry Finn's father taught him how to borrow watermelons. It isn't a big man picking on the little man kind of funny like in Comedy. Ha ha. Mark Twain expresses humor by transcending into the little character Huckleberry Finn. He reintroduces the parable as Cervantes did. This use of humor is so superior to comedy.

One of the funniest bits of humor, not comedy, is how Sancho, the minor sidekick to Don Quixote, had to excrete his waste while standing next to his more famed protagonist sidekick. He is afraid to go into the woods to relieve himself because of the noises from the modern world of factories and such.

Okay, similarly, our founding fathers were involved in social and pyschological business. But science had yet to substantiate science on the cognizant level. That advent of science did not happen until after Immanuel Kant who was a peer of our founding fathers he being a vital figure and co-founding father of the French Revolution He was later so enraptured that he was led away from the philosophy of science to become existentially involved with the condition of man.

An unalienable truth is self-evident. It can't be betrayed by anyone regardless while its superior power will win out regardless. This is why a self-evident truth reduces to supercede over that of the corrupt power of tyranny. A self-evident truth is something that reduces unalienably to be imprinted onto the souls of every human-being -- both king and peasant alike. In King George's persecution of the people, he was defying his own conscience.

[heavenlyboy34]

the individual vs. The collective, never ending battle, goes back to the prehistory of the species. Europe has nothing to do with it.

if anything, the base american viewpoint and value was on the individual.<imho> that was the d of i revolution and the "unalienable" truth, merely betrayed by the treasonist federalist coup of 1789. :( :p :rolleyes:

qft!! :d

[Truth Warrior]

Were talking about context here.

You are talking about context here. As usual, I am talking about REALITY.

For example, Cervantes used the genre of humor in "Don Quixote De La Mancha" while Mark Twain could define scientifically what and how he used humor as contrasted to how others used comedy. Comedy ended with the premise. Humor is hid as the premise in the middle of the paragraph while the narrator pretended to ignore it while continuing in dialogue with tongue in cheek seriousness. An example of this is how Huckleberry Finn's father taught him how to borrow watermelons. It isn't a big man picking on the little man kind of funny like in Comedy. Ha ha. Mark Twain expresses humor by transcending into the little character Huckleberry Finn. He reintroduces the parable as Cervantes did. This use of humor is so superior to comedy.

I enjoy the FICTIONS of Cervantes and Twain too. However, unlike you, I usually much prefer REALITY.

One of the funniest bits of humor, not comedy, is how Sancho, the minor sidekick to Don Quixote, had to excrete his waste while standing next to his more famed protagonist sidekick. He is afraid to go into the woods to relieve himself because of the noises from the modern world of factories and such.

Okay, similarly, our founding fathers were involved in social and pyschological business. But science had yet to substantiate science on the cognizant level. That advent of science did not happen until after Immanuel Kant who was a peer of our founding fathers he being a vital figure and co-founding father of the French Revolution He was later so enraptured that he was led away from the philosophy of science to become existentially involved with the condition of man.

I like Kant's categorical imperative, but not really too much else of his. BTW, weren't Kant AND the French Revolution ( not to even mention here both existentialism AND communism ) ......... both European. :eek: :D

An unalienable truth is self-evident. It can't be betrayed by anyone regardless while its superior power will win out regardless. This is why a self-evident truth reduces to supercede over that of the corrupt power of tyranny. A self-evident truth is something that reduces unalienably to be imprinted onto the souls of every human-being -- both king and peasant alike. In King George's persecution of the people, he was defying his own conscience.

Several BILLION of your species predecessors just might choose to quibble with your analysis, if they could, but they are DEAD, merely MURDERED, over time, at the tyrannical hands of both ( collectivist ;) ) church and state. I kinda doubt that very many of the victims were any too neither HAPPY nor CONTENTED about their ( individual ;) ) situations, at the time. :rolleyes:

King George was merely exercising his delusional mystical and mythical traditional "divine rights" ( so called ), bestowed upon him by "GOD". :rolleyes:


"The instinct to command others, in its primitive essence, is a carnivorous, altogether bestial and savage instinct. Under the influence of the mental development of man, it takes on a somewhat more ideal form and becomes somewhat ennobled, presenting itself as the instrument of reason and the devoted servant of that abstraction, or political fiction, which is called the public good. But in its essence it remains just as baneful, and it becomes even more so when, with the application of science, it extends its scope and intensifies the power of its action. If there is a devil in history, it is this power principle." -- Mikhail Aleksandrovich Bakunin

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Your argument against tyranny shows that you have a very naive idea of what tyranny is. This makes you a second-class member of tyranny itself. The power in Civil-Purpose is greater than the legal-precedence of tyranny because a self-evident truth cannot be destroyed, because a natural law is not a theory but an undenial truth, and because there is no acceptible argument against it. Any legal argument made against an unalienable natural-right is in contempt with God.
Why do you pagan Europeans choose to live under a system led by the cognizant sciences? One which reduces every living-thing to an animal? On the other hand, the metaphysical sciences at least raised the stature of animals by existentially personifying them to mankind? Modern science has polluted the earth by degrading it into a world populated by animals. On the other hand, the metaphysical science our founding-fathers used wasn't true because it established undeniable proof; but, it was true because it existentially reduced to mankind's need for happiness and his and her prerequisite need for liberty.

[Truth Warrior]

Your argument against tyranny shows that you have a very naive idea of what tyranny is. This makes you a second-class member of tyranny itself. The power in Civil-Purpose is greater than the legal-precedence of tyranny because a self-evident truth cannot be destroyed, because a natural law is not a theory but an undenial truth, and because there is no acceptible argument against it. Any legal argument made against an unalienable natural-right is in contempt with God.

I'll pit my idea of tyranny against your's ANY day of the week. :p Merely making up and fabricating bogus and phony concepts like "Civil-Purpose" ( so called ) still does not make you intelligent, just merely sadly foolish. :( I didn't say destroyed, merely violated, denied and tyrannized against. Your God is too small.<IMHO>

Why do you pagan Europeans choose to live under a system led by the cognizant sciences? One which reduces every living-thing to an animal? On the other hand, the metaphysical sciences at least raised the stature of animals by existentially personificating them to mankind? We have polluted the earth by degrading it into a world of animals. On the other hand, the metaphysical science our founding-fathers used wasn't true because it established undeniable proof. It was true because it existentially reduced to mankind's need for happiness and his and her prerequisite need for liberty.

As ALWAYS your conclusions do NOT follow logically from your premises. A stinging indictment of purely screwy first axioms, BTW. Get a clue. This is still REALLY pathetic and boring. :rolleyes: The Europeans continue to be merely your gig and hangup, as your posts and threads continue to merely display.



"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are." -- H.L. Mencken

[lucius]

"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are." -- H.L. Mencken

I like this one:

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~Henry Louis Mencken

[torchbearer]

I like this one:

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~Henry Louis Mencken

aaargh matey!

[Truth Warrior]

I like this one:

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~Henry Louis Mencken

Me too. ;) :)

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[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Me too. ;) :)

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Thus the need for step nine.

[Truth Warrior]

Thus the need for step nine.

Thus the need for a padded cell. :D