What do you think will most endanger your individual freedom in the next decade?

[Conza88]

What can you do about it?


I've got to write an essay covering this... And I'd be so greatful if anyone would be able to offer some quality sources, or things that I should cover.

Thanks

[Sandra]

eminent domain... and the government's ever encompassing definition of "domain".

[Truth Warrior]

Uhhhhh, government ................. maybe? :rolleyes: :D

[moostraks]

The war against a philosophy with agents that according to those propagating the war exist everywhere and are out to get you "because you are free". Then by using fear they are able to coerce previously rational individuals to accept the most widespread program of domestic surveillance ever fathomed before. To me, being constantly snooped on and having situations misconstrued leaving the accused to prove their innocence especially when one does not have right to face their accuser cuts to the heart of individual freedom.

http://www.usaonwatch.org/

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/loss/loss_ch2.htm

http://www.policevolunteers.org/about/

Let us know which topic you decide upon and if I get a chance will try to look in that direction, but this would be my personnal choice...

[Truth Warrior]

The Grand Deception
A Second Look at the War on Terrorism
G. Edward Griffin
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/deception.html (http://www.silverbearcafe.com/deception.html)

[Conza88]

The war against a philosophy with agents that according to those propagating the war exist everywhere and are out to get you "because you are free". Then by using fear they are able to coerce previously rational individuals to accept the most widespread program of domestic surveillance ever fathomed before. To me, being constantly snooped on and having situations misconstrued leaving the accused to prove their innocence especially when one does not have right to face their accuser cuts to the heart of individual freedom.

http://www.usaonwatch.org/

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/loss/loss_ch2.htm

http://www.policevolunteers.org/about/

Let us know which topic you decide upon and if I get a chance will try to look in that direction, but this would be my personnal choice...

Thanks! I am dicing out which way I want to go with this... Breaking it into two parts obviously, the first question - what is the greatest danger to your individual freedom, and then - what can you do about it.

Thinking about the best route to take this, as there are alot of avenues open..

[moostraks]

Thanks! I am dicing out which way I want to go with this... Breaking it into two parts obviously, the first question - what is the greatest danger to your individual freedom, and then - what can you do about it.

Thinking about the best route to take this, as there are alot of avenues open..

Your welcome! That would be my problem too because they have opened the door to abusing powers so broadly it would be hard to say where it won't go so that was why I narrowed it down to this facet.

A correlation can be made between how this mentality will affect society at large and how those accused of child abuse/neglect are treated. The similarities are astounding in how we accept for the benefit of having informants come forward, a loss in the right to face one's accuser. It destroys the ability to defend oneself if you fight from the stance of not even knowing when or why an accusation was made. The agencies also have a tendency to warp the information they receive.

Furthermore the perception is in proving one's innocence not in proving one's guilt, due to this confidentiality stance. Information is taken to be true and the person accused must prove it is not factual rather than the person claiming someone is doing something criminal proving the existence of a wrongful act.

Also putting certain people in a position of fear of legal repercussions if they don't come forward has a tendency to overblow situations and destroy lives based on fallacies, especially if there is a prejudice towards the individual in one aspect or another (say those from strict religious organizations that are hunted down because of views outside the norm being harassed by social services and those of a particular nationality in the war on terror being harassed by surveillance groups). I would venture a guess that local police don't want to be the one's whose watch the next "terrorist" attack occurs on so they are harder than than they might be on suspected individuals.

Just a thought if you are looking for some historical documentation on government abuse with this type of surveillance for the purpose of protecting others...

Good luck!

[gls]

This is a pretty broad-based question but overall my biggest concern relative to the loss of freedom relates to loss of sovereignty. Town government gives way to county government, county gives way to state; state gives way to federal, federal gives way to international bureaucracies such as the U.N. and the WTO/IMF. Each step of the way the individual becomes less significant, less free.

[PatriotOne]

What do you think will most endanger your individual freedom in the next decade?

Long post short......fear. Those trying to control and enslave us have always used fear throughout history. Fear of God and hell. Fear of "terrorists". Fear of global destruction. Fear of the tyranical Government. Fear of prison/concentration camps. Fear, fear, fear...............

[heavenlyboy34]

I've got to write an essay covering this... And I'd be so greatful if anyone would be able to offer some quality sources, or things that I should cover.

Thanks

Mass ignorance and disinformation campaigns waged by elitists. Some good books include "The Dumbing Down Of America", "A Nation Of Sheep", and "The Grand Deception". Good luck on your essay! :)

[acptulsa]

Long post short......fear.

Right. And the alleged 'terrists' are but one aspect of this. The crashing economy is another. As they try to shove through their socialistic agenda, they will be trying to shove through totalitarianism as part and parcel of it. And the economic conditions and the seeming 'band-aids' that they apply to the financial system will be a--if not the--major part of the agenda.

After all, what is the point of accumulating greater power if it doesn't net you greater wealth, right?

The 'Alphabet Soup' of the Depression-era New Deal had some interesting effects on our freedoms. This time, they'll be more organized. I know the propaganda at the moment is that the powers that be didn't foresee this catastrophe they created and don't know what to do about it. Do you really believe this? Honestly? Or do you believe the whole thing was put up and set up and the 'we're playing it by ear' rhetoric is just designed to propigate the 'accidental view of history' and lead us to shut up?

The economy is at least as great a threat to our freedoms as all their false flag operations. You could probably sell people on shipping their kids to reeducation camps if you could make a convincing case that it would help the economy... :rolleyes:

[pcosmar]

Collectivism in general.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:collectivism&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
Collectivists, in particular.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:collectivist&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

FEMA camps...

[PatriotOne]

Right. And the alleged 'terrists' are but one aspect of this. The crashing economy is another. As they try to shove through their socialistic agenda, they will be trying to shove through totalitarianism as part and parcel of it. And the economic conditions and the seeming 'band-aids' that they apply to the financial system will be a--if not the--major part of the agenda.

After all, what is the point of accumulating greater power if it doesn't net you greater wealth, right?

The 'Alphabet Soup' of the Depression-era New Deal had some interesting effects on our freedoms. This time, they'll be more organized. I know the propaganda at the moment is that the powers that be didn't foresee this catastrophe they created and don't know what to do about it. Do you really believe this? Honestly? Or do you believe the whole thing was put up and set up and the 'we're playing it by ear' rhetoric is just designed to propigate the 'accidental view of history' and lead us to shut up?

The economy is at least as great a threat to our freedoms as all their false flag operations. You could probably sell people on shipping their kids to reeducation camps if you could make a convincing case that it would help the economy... :rolleyes:

I take it those aren't really questions aimed at me in particular because you probably know you are preaching to the choir when addressing me :cool:

[SnappleLlama]

Real ID

[moostraks]

Right. And the alleged 'terrists' are but one aspect of this. The crashing economy is another. ...

The economy is at least as great a threat to our freedoms as all their false flag operations. You could probably sell people on shipping their kids to reeducation camps if you could make a convincing case that it would help the economy... :rolleyes:

That one is an equal threat to the "war on terror". However your last suggestion I thought they already did and called it "public schools" which is what their detractors refer to lovingly as "government schools". :rolleyes:Then those of age in the family can go repay their debts to society for the tax burden they owe to repay the interest on the national debt. Soon Obama will have us all employed, yippee!!!

[libertea]

The Hollywood Blvd. nightclub crowd.

[Theocrat]

Relativism, in both religious and political affairs. This has already endangered all of our God-given freedoms, and its vehicle is secular humanism.

[BenIsForRon]

Disinformation campaigns (see: citibank is to big to fail) along with just arresting people spreading true information (see: journalists getting arrested before the DNC ever started).

[raystone]

Obama's attacks (beautifully packaged, of course) on gun rights. If successful on reducing gun ownership/use, will undermine ALL other future personal liberties and ability for us to keep government in check.

[Conza88]

I am wondering; it mentions "individual" freedom.

Do you think there is any truth to the notion or point, that if your neighbor ain't free, then neither are you. :confused:

I am tempted to discuss the societal issues, but then I don't think that would be addressing the question.


• What do you think will most endanger your individual freedom in the next decade?

The growth of the state

The move towards one world government

Good versus Evil

Freedom and Liberty vs. Tyranny
- Freedom vs. Coercion

Individualism vs. Collectivism

Taxation is Theft
- 50% income tax, half a slave

The State is an Anti-Social Institution

Collectivists gravitate towards power, they seek to impose their will on others

Pure minds do not wish to rule

But I guess... reallly, they are all threats to your individual freedom.. you can't out run world government. You've got to fight in. Above is a real rough draft of the points I'd cover.. for the first q.

[Working Poor]

I think there is a risk of alien take over

[heavenlyboy34]

I think there is a risk of alien take over

How do you know they haven't? Maybe Paulson and Bernanke, et. al are really aliens! :eek:

[satchelmcqueen]

to many things to say just one, but credit scores scare the crap out of me now. ive always had very good credit since 2001 till now. before that time i had very good credit but not mush credit history so to say. i always try not to get loans unless i need them which has been rare. now im thinking of never having another loan as long as i live, hence no credit. this good intent to be responsible and self reliant will make my credit score suck or non existent and now it seems most places will not hire someone with no credit or low credit even though for me it just means i stay out of that system. very crooked to have credit tied into having a job or not. bad system.

[The_Orlonater]

The globalization of countries and the nationalization of major industries is a threat.

[SeanEdwards]

Poverty.

[Conza88]

Hyper inflation.... fiat currency..

Store wealth in things that hold value.

[xd9fan]

my fellow americans will do more harm to my liberty than any country ever could.