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Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-14-2008, 12:06 PM
The United States was not rationalized by deduction or induction but by reduction unalienably to a natural law. Natural law served as a sole metaphysical conclusion during that time as self-evident truths to the extent that it was not opposed by any other theory, law, conclusion, opinion or any other principality or power save for God Himself.

Consider how European politics has long poisoned American politics:

1) The nation of the United States was born before the advent of Immanuel Kant, the philosopher science, and the birth of the epistomological cognizant sciences. Marxism, that European thing, was born during the development of such deep and questionable cognizant sciences.

2) When declaring our independence and reinstituting a new nation, our Founding Fathers took up the roles not as Lordly American "gentlemen," which they were, but as mouthpieces for the Commoner American people.

3) Our Founding Fathers used the science of the day, natural law, to narrow down to what is commonly partisan in all Americans. This became our Civil-Purpose intended to challenge all other legal precedents established prior to and after the establishment of the more perfect government of the United States.

4) Our Founding Fathers established a formal divorce decree from tyranny in The Declaration of Independence and then a formal marriage decree to a more proper government in The U.S. Constitution. They did so while acting in unison the part of the commoner people of the United States.

These are all simple things which are easy to follow but equally easy to muck up with European complexity. For cripes sake, can't we all just take a break? Can't we just go fishing?

Aratus
11-14-2008, 12:39 PM
http://www.truveo.com/Tennessee-Johnson-Original-Trailer/id/2436587225 we were always as a
people more than simply whig, or tory... or both at the same time! after bill clinton,
after g.w bush, will our next 3 industrious presidents dare to rock the boat? to buck
public opinion??? ---- http://www.americanpresidents.org/ram/amp070999_2.ram

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-14-2008, 01:24 PM
http://www.truveo.com/Tennessee-Johnson-Original-Trailer/id/2436587225 we were always as a
people more than simply whig, or tory... or both at the same time! after bill clinton,
after g.w bush, will our next 3 industrious presidents dare to rock the boat? to buck
public opinion??? ---- http://www.americanpresidents.org/ram/amp070999_2.ram

Andrew Johnson was a great man while Bill Clinton was an exposed penis walking around the halls of the whitehouse.

Aratus
11-14-2008, 01:29 PM
JFK devoted chapters in his book to both Andrew Johnson and Senator Ross...

Aratus
11-14-2008, 01:33 PM
has Potus Barack Obama the ability to dodge GRIDLOCK II the movie?
there was a story about NEWT GINGRICH desiring to be the chairman
of the REPUBLICAN PARTY! this is as the G.O.P desires a re-attachment
to its history and ideals. was Andrew Johnson actually a 1700s burkean
conservative? methinks he did see himself as a political heir to OLD HICKORY!

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-14-2008, 01:56 PM
has Potus Barack Obama the ability to dodge GRIDLOCK II the movie?
there was a story about NEWT GINGRICH desiring to be the chairman
of the REPUBLICAN PARTY! this is as the G.O.P desires a re-attachment
to its history and ideals. was Andrew Johnson actually a 1700s burkean
conservative? methinks he did see himself as a political heir to OLD HICKORY!

When Americans go fishing, we talk about football, fishing and pretty women. This is real American politics. The European men like to sashay their way to the study where they will grumble and growl over politics while sipping from a glass of brandy and smoking from either a pipe or a fine cigar.

Xenophage
11-14-2008, 02:48 PM
JFK devoted chapters in his book to both Andrew Johnson and Senator Ross...

The book his father had written for him? :P

Xenophage
11-14-2008, 02:50 PM
When Americans go fishing, we talk about football, fishing and pretty women. This is real American politics. The European men like to sashay their way to the study where they will grumble and growl over politics while sipping from a glass of brandy and smoking from either a pipe or a fine cigar.

That's utterly ridiculous. I'd wager 99% of European politics gets hashed out in a pub after someone's favorite football team gets beaten.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-18-2008, 10:16 AM
That's utterly ridiculous. I'd wager 99% of European politics gets hashed out in a pub after someone's favorite football team gets beaten.

Our founding fathers created our government prior to the advent of the cognitive sciences.

A natural right existed beyond an ideal to narrow not to a cognitive but a physical science. This conclusion used natural law to create an undeniable, self-evident truth that reduced unalienably to be imprinted indelibly on the conscience of every human soul.

In contrast to this U.S. simplicity, the development of the "social contract theory" took a darker turn in Europe through Hegel and Marx because of the development and incorporation of the cognitive sciences. Rather than deem the people as having the same deep message written onto their human souls, the "political science" of Europe came to the conclusion that their people needed to be manipulated towards that which was good for them.

As a result, the young men from villages in Vietnam were beheaded with their heads stuck on the end of sticks all for the purpose of using that terror to manipulate the people towards that which was best for their happiness.

Understand that the cognitive sciences are very questionable as legitimate science. The philosophy of science approaches this problem by questioning whether the cognitive sciences legitimately unify (unification) with natural science by sufficiently reducing (reduction) to it. Many think the cognitive sciences would be better classified as artistic endeavors. For example, every fiction novel written introduces its own unique psychology and sociological paradigms.

Xenophage
11-18-2008, 02:32 PM
Our founding fathers created our government prior to the advent of the cognitive sciences.

A natural right existed beyond an ideal to narrow not to a cognitive but a physical science. This conclusion used natural law to create an undeniable, self-evident truth that reduced unalienably to be imprinted indelibly on the conscience of every human soul.

In contrast to this U.S. simplicity, the development of the "social contract theory" took a darker turn in Europe through Hegel and Marx because of the development and incorporation of the cognitive sciences. Rather than deem the people as having the same deep message written onto their human souls, the "political science" of Europe came to the conclusion that their people needed to be manipulated towards that which was good for them.

As a result, the young men from villages in Vietnam were beheaded with their heads stuck on the end of sticks all for the purpose of using that terror to manipulate the people towards that which was best for their happiness.

Understand that the cognitive sciences are very questionable as legitimate science. The philosophy of science approaches this problem by questioning whether the cognitive sciences legitimately unify (unification) with natural science by sufficiently reducing (reduction) to it. Many think the cognitive sciences would be better classified as artistic endeavors. For example, every fiction novel written introduces its own unique psychology and sociological paradigms.

A rational mind requires sensory evidence and logical conclusions. Can you prove that human rights exist in nature?

They don't. They are entirely a social construct. "Rights are moral principles defining a persons freedom of action in a social context." (Rand) Sans the necessity of engaging other humans socially, a right doesn't even make sense. They have nothing to do with physical science - they don't physically exist. They have everything to do with social science! Read "Human Action" by Mises.

Why do we need rights? We need freedom. We need to be able to engage one another peaceably and through trade, rather than through force and fraud. Its essential to us as self-interested individuals, and essential to civilization.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-19-2008, 12:55 AM
A rational mind requires sensory evidence and logical conclusions. Can you prove that human rights exist in nature?

They don't. They are entirely a social construct. "Rights are moral principles defining a persons freedom of action in a social context." (Rand) Sans the necessity of engaging other humans socially, a right doesn't even make sense. They have nothing to do with physical science - they don't physically exist. They have everything to do with social science! Read "Human Action" by Mises.

Why do we need rights? We need freedom. We need to be able to engage one another peaceably and through trade, rather than through force and fraud. Its essential to us as self-interested individuals, and essential to civilization.

You are using cognitive evidence established after our founding fathers created our government.

Natural rights were established by the use of natural law. They existed as self-evident truths beyond even the cognitive level to unalienably reduce to be indelibly imprinted on each and every human-soul.

hypnagogue
11-19-2008, 04:50 AM
You are using cognitive evidence established after our founding fathers created our government. Yeah! Quit understanding about things!

Anti Federalist
11-19-2008, 05:07 AM
The United States was not rationalized by deduction or induction but by reduction unalienably to a natural law. Natural law served as a sole metaphysical conclusion during that time as self-evident truths to the extent that it was not opposed by any other theory, law, conclusion, opinion or any other principality or power save for God Himself.

Consider how European politics has long poisoned American politics:

1) The nation of the United States was born before the advent of Immanuel Kant, the philosopher science, and the birth of the epistomological cognizant sciences. Marxism, that European thing, was born during the development of such deep and questionable cognizant sciences.

2) When declaring our independence and reinstituting a new nation, our Founding Fathers took up the roles not as Lordly American "gentlemen," which they were, but as mouthpieces for the Commoner American people.

3) Our Founding Fathers used the science of the day, natural law, to narrow down to what is commonly partisan in all Americans. This became our Civil-Purpose intended to challenge all other legal precedents established prior to and after the establishment of the more perfect government of the United States.

4) Our Founding Fathers established a formal divorce decree from tyranny in The Declaration of Independence and then a formal marriage decree to a more proper government in The U.S. Constitution. They did so while acting in unison the part of the commoner people of the United States.

These are all simple things which are easy to follow but equally easy to muck up with European complexity. For cripes sake, can't we all just take a break? Can't we just go fishing?

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Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-19-2008, 12:50 PM
Yeah! Quit understanding about things!

I hate using the word naive but you are being quite naive. As I already mentioned, scientific conclusion had been established only on a physical level during the time our founding fathers created our government.
The cognitive sciences were very controversial as they still are today. This is in reference to the question of "unification" and "reduction" in the philosophy of science.
Simply put, the socalled "cognitive" sciences take on more the characteristics of the endeavor of art than they do science.
Allowing the "cognitives" to operate under the classification of science has poisoned the world's social-contract-theory. The cognitives have led the natural sciences to neglect the contentment of mankind as existential in purpose. They have shunned the nations as foolish. They have neglected the ideal of civilization choosing to flee instead to live in their own international community.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-19-2008, 01:00 PM
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The point? The point is that European culture endangers the U.S. ideal more than even the rebellious African and Hispanic cultures that are perversing it. We were designed Americans by our founding fathers, recognized as Americans by Ralph Waldo Emerson, and saved as Americans by Abraham Lincoln. Ralph Emerson is the principle figure who recognized the distinct differences between Americans and Europeans by shining a light on the The Declaration of Independence and then, ironically, using the Native American as the best example of the happy lives our founding fathers intended for us to enjoy. Thus incorporating the Native American as a positive character in American culture rather than a savage.
Therefore, American Transcendentalism.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
11-19-2008, 01:26 PM
...and saved as Americans by Abraham Lincoln.*bzzzzzzt*

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-19-2008, 02:58 PM
*bzzzzzzt*

Thank you for your thoughtful response.