Has the Revolution ruined any movies, shows, etc. for you?

[self-evident]

For example:

Now, when I play games like Call of Duty 4, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, "Well, my character shouldn't even be in Baghdad or wherever he is in the first place."

Or when I watch the show Fringe I think, "That's nice, but my tax dollars are paying for her FBI operation to investigate crap."

It's ridiculous, but I can't help it now.

[m72mc]

The news, 24, meaningless entertainment, etc

[Expatriate]

Haha, 24 definitely, but I never really enjoyed it to begin with. I always thought the terrorist scenarios were pretty far-fetched, just to give an excuse for CTU to kidnap and torture etc.

Also, pretty much any modern war movie.

I was already pretty sick of TV before the Revolution, I actually started watching TV more to see if they mentioned Ron Paul or interviewed him.

[Elwar]

Oprah used to be my wife's mentor. She watched her daily and wanted to be such a great humanitarian like Oprah.

Not so much anymore...mainly because Oprah endorsed Obama. My wife feels she sold us all out.

[Agent CSL]

Yeah, once you start seeing things one way it's hard to see them any other way. You guys ruined most of my regular FOX shows! :o

[AdamT]

I can see subtle propaganda in virtually every Hollywood movie. Once you take the red pill and ditch the blinders, you can never go back.

[christagious]

I can see subtle propaganda in virtually every Hollywood movie. Once you take the red pill and ditch the blinders, you can never go back.

yep

[raystone]

Considering half of Hollywood publically supported Obama, I can't watch many movies anymore because of detest of the actors. Don't watch the idiot box anymore.

[Aldanga]

i can see subtle propaganda in virtually every hollywood movie. Once you take the red pill and ditch the blinders, you can never go back.

QFT

I have the same issues. I couldn't play CoD4 without thinking, "We shouldn't even be there..."

[sevin]

It's ruined most television for me. When I watch television, in the back of my mind I think, "This is what they use to hypnotize the sheeple." :eek: I read more lately.

[zadrock]

I can't even watch movies with my kids anymore. It's all communist propaganda! :p

One example:

Purple Pie Man (bad guy): Perhaps you can tell me why you're on MY land...

Strawberry Shortcake: But Strawberry-land belongs to us all.

Pie Man pulls out a deed to the land and kicks the girls off it.

So... the guy with a legal right to the property is at fault here?

:eek: :D

Z

[yongrel]

I can't eat at Blimpie anymore.

[Conza88]

Games ruined... Civilization, Sim City, most - where it requires you to be a social engineer.. lol

Pretty much can't read the paper in the morning without getting pissed off.. (It's a good sign... imo. It really shows you care)

Anything and everything I see... see "Body of Lies" - I'm like... yeah, massive propaganda for war on terror, in certain points etc...

Esoteric Agenda everywhere..

[FindLiberty]

I can see subtle propaganda in virtually every Hollywood movie. Once you take the red pill and ditch the blinders, you can never go back.

QFT - I just looked at the red pill many years ago and then could not watch any more new StarTrek-TNG's (the 2nd or 3rd season).

Gave up ALL live TV a few years ago ('cept for select movie DVDs).

[gls]

Daily Show/Colbert Report

Use to think they were funny, now all I see is liberal propoganda

[Jeremy]

Well it would ruin 24, but that show stopped existing since I became an RP supporter... and let's see... idk =p

I remember I made a Lincoln Mii on my Wii before I joined... then a couple months later I saw it and was like WTF and deleted it :p

[Jeremy]

I can't eat at Blimpie anymore.

rofl what? :D

[SnappleLlama]

i can't eat at blimpie anymore.

:d:d:d

[wizardwatson]

Bill Maher. I never really adored everything he did, but I thought he was funny and since he was attacking Bush most of the time, it was funny. But ever since this election fiasco, I can't stand to watch him. I literally get irritated listening to him or any of his guests.

Ditto on the Daily Show/Colbert, but only like 50% ruined. Those guys are still good with the jokes.

[wizardwatson]

Games ruined... Civilization, Sim City, most - where it requires you to be a social engineer.. lol

Pretty much can't read the paper in the morning without getting pissed off.. (It's a good sign... imo. It really shows you care)

Anything and everything I see... see "Body of Lies" - I'm like... yeah, massive propaganda for war on terror, in certain points etc...

Esoteric Agenda everywhere..

HA! Never thought of that one. Hey you can still play Roller Coaster Tycoon!! :D

[Elwar]

Games ruined... Civilization, Sim City, most - where it requires you to be a social engineer.. lol


I like trying to play those games with no taxes.

I play age of empires and try to follow the principles of no taxes, friends with all...alliances with none, I don't attack other countries...

My economy was in great shape, all of my citizens were happy...

It really does make the game a challenge and you certainly have to get through some tough times (early attacks are the hardest) but you definitely become the most advanced and wealthy nation in the end.

[fr33domfightr]

QFT - I just looked at the red pill many years ago and then could not watch any more new StarTrek-TNG's (the 2nd or 3rd season).

Gave up ALL live TV a few years ago ('cept for select movie DVDs).


I especially noticed it during the Star Trek Voyager series years ago. It got so political (regarding plot themes) that I just didn't want to watch it anymore.

You will also see this blatantly when actors (or singers) promote their political philosophy, which generally is the Democrat Party platform, or some social agenda. It pisses me off, so I try and separate their work as performers from their politics. That helps.



FF

[PatriotOne]

I don't know if ruined is the right word for me. I have certainly started watching movies and television in a far different way and notice things I NEVER would have before.

Just the other night I was channel flipping and paused on The Big Bang Theory sitcom. It was doing the usual intro (or whatever you call the thing they do in the beginning of every show...lol) and many scenes were flashing very quickly in somekind of succession. I wasn't paying that close of attention and have no idea what the other scenes were but one of them was the pyramid with the eye on our dollar bill (Illuminati/Masonic symbolism). THAT one my eye picked up. One has to wonder what the hell that has to do with the Big Bang Theory. I wish I could get a recording of the intro so I could go through the other scenes slowly to see what they depict.

[PatriotOne]

What I cannot watch anymore is the news. It literally makes my blood pressure rise. If I was a dragon, flames would spew forth from my mouth and melt my TV while watching the news. Getting that angry on a regular basis isn't good for me so I just don't watch it anymore.

[Agent CSL]

I can see subtle propaganda in virtually every Hollywood movie. Once you take the red pill and ditch the blinders, you can never go back.
Yep.



Don't even get me started with Tomb Raider.......... :eek:


What I cannot watch anymore is the news. It literally makes my blood pressure rise. If I was a dragon, flames would spew forth from my mouth and melt my TV while watching the news. Getting that angry on a regular basis isn't good for me so I just don't watch it anymore.
SO TRUE! True true true true! Everything in the news is a string of propaganda, and I've seen it first hand. The flood in Washington isn't all that bad, it happens every year, but they make it seem like it's the end of the world. I saw them cut and edit out parts of the Snohomish river to make it look more dramatic. They were down by the soccer fields (which gets flooded even if there isn't much rain), to make it look dramatic! Yet the river was barely over the park! GAH!

*punches wall*

[RedLightning]

I can't watch the news anymore, or shows like 24...

[PatriotOne]

Yep.



Don't even get me started with Tomb Raider.......... :eek:


SO TRUE! True true true true! Everything in the news is a string of propaganda, and I've seen it first hand. The flood in Washington isn't all that bad, it happens every year, but they make it seem like it's the end of the world. I saw them cut and edit out parts of the Snohomish river to make it look more dramatic. They were down by the soccer fields (which gets flooded even if there isn't much rain), to make it look dramatic! Yet the river was barely over the park! GAH!

*punches wall*

No kidding! I have family all over Western Wa. They were all "WTF is the problem"? I can't remember. Was the news trying to tie it in w/Global Warming?

Ohhhh....I was just googling something and I see that is a current event. I was thinking of last yrs (or the yr before?) "catastrophe". I better call my family to make sure they haven't fallen victim to the deluge...lol.

[Minlawc]

QFT - I just looked at the red pill many years ago and then could not watch any more new StarTrek-TNG's (the 2nd or 3rd season).

I'm So mad now, the Revolution totally ruined my favorite Star Trek series. I began to realize that the Star Trek Federation showed classic signs of Communism.

'A lot has changed in the last 300 years. People are no longer obsessed with the acquisition of 'things'. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions. We've grown out of our infancy.' - Picard

And how did this 'change' come about? Did Obama become President?

[Andrew-Austin]

Whats with so many people mentioning 24... I couldn't stomache that show long before I even knew who Paul was...


Daily Show/Colbert Report

Use to think they were funny, now all I see is liberal propoganda

Yeah I can't enjoy those shows much anymore either...


I'm So mad now, the Revolution totally ruined my favorite Star Trek series. I began to realize that the Star Trek Federation showed classic signs of Communism.

'A lot has changed in the last 300 years. People are no longer obsessed with the acquisition of 'things'. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions. We've grown out of our infancy.' - Picard

And how did this 'change' come about? Did Obama become President?


I don't know anything about Star Trek, but surely they meant they eliminated things like hunger through technological means? And people do become less material driven once their material needs are met, but I don't think human nature is as maleable as that quote implies.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

House.

total bullshit how in every other episode they talk about terrorists and stupid people who believe in "conspiracies"

i loved that show

[gls]

Whats with so many people mentioning 24... I couldn't stomache that show long before I even knew who Paul was...


The really sad part is they had to send Kiefer Sutherland ("Jack Bauer") to Westpoint to explain to the cadets that it is JUST A TV SHOW and that TORTURE DOESN'T ACTUALLY WORK.

"The best and the brightest" ladies and gentleman (as determined by your Congressional representatives)

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/3799

[Minlawc]

I don't know anything about Star Trek, but surely they meant they eliminated things like hunger through technological means? And people do become less material driven once their material needs are met, but I don't think human nature is as maleable as that quote implies.

Well, it's not just this quote, but maybe I shouldn't have sai communism.
It advicates a 'perfect' Socialist Utopian society. Many signs within the series point to this.

[dude58677]

I like trying to play those games with no taxes.

I play age of empires and try to follow the principles of no taxes, friends with all...alliances with none, I don't attack other countries...

My economy was in great shape, all of my citizens were happy...

It really does make the game a challenge and you certainly have to get through some tough times (early attacks are the hardest) but you definitely become the most advanced and wealthy nation in the end.

I did the same with Sim City where I had a surplus with no taxes after makig neighborhood deals and limited spending. The town threw a parade for me.

[ArrestPoliticians]

For example:

Now, when I play games like Call of Duty 4, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, "Well, my character shouldn't even be in Baghdad or wherever he is in the first place."

Or when I watch the show Fringe I think, "That's nice, but my tax dollars are paying for her FBI operation to investigate crap."

It's ridiculous, but I can't help it now.

Star Trek has become globalist NWO propaganda!

[dude58677]

Star Trek has become globalist NWO propaganda!

The movie "Independence Day" is another NWO propaganda movie. Movies that I do enjoy are "Enemy of the State" which is about the dangers of things like the Patriot Act. The other one is "The Patriot" with Mel Gibson.

[smithtg]

It's ruined most television for me. When I watch television, in the back of my mind I think, "This is what they use to hypnotize the sheeple." :eek: I read more lately.

EXACTLY how I feel. Nothing reporting "facts" on TV means squat to me anymore. I prefer to read online.

I still watch some mindless TV shows (comedies, dramas etc) and those are not yet ruined for me.

College sports seem pure enough too for me, except the college commericials at halftime claiming "how good they are" and in the back of my mind all they do is bellyache about how much the need to raise tuition because "the state didnt help them"

[dannno]

rofl what? :D

I think he's referencing the Ron Paul blimp..

[dannno]

I like trying to play those games with no taxes.

I play age of empires and try to follow the principles of no taxes, friends with all...alliances with none, I don't attack other countries...

My economy was in great shape, all of my citizens were happy...

It really does make the game a challenge and you certainly have to get through some tough times (early attacks are the hardest) but you definitely become the most advanced and wealthy nation in the end.

Well that's fucking interesting.

[undergroundrr]

I've always enjoyed a lot of socialist and even fascist art. Among the great achievers of the arts, especially theater and its offshoots in opera and modern TV/movies, there are about 2 libertarians, and they don't stand up well.

It's amazing how frequently collectivist windbags make daring, accomplished, individualistic art, never recognizing the contradiction. "Don't hang the painter with the painting" is the standard cliche.

Perhaps the most shocking thing that's happened to me in the last couple years was coming to see Star Wars Episodes I-III as insightful commentary on tyranny and political corruption. I used to think those movies sucked balls.

[PatriotOne]

Television is Social Engineering. They don't call the shows "programs" (programming) for nothing. You want to see into the future, start watching childrens cartoons and movies (don't forget to watch for subliminals in them). Programming works best on young children (5 and under is optimal).

[Elwar]

Everything in the news is a string of propaganda, and I've seen it first hand. The flood in Washington isn't all that bad, it happens every year, but they make it seem like it's the end of the world. I saw them cut and edit out parts of the Snohomish river to make it look more dramatic. They were down by the soccer fields (which gets flooded even if there isn't much rain), to make it look dramatic! Yet the river was barely over the park! GAH!
*punches wall*

I was in Kuwait City right on the Gulf and my buddy was telling me about how during the first Gulf War the news cameras had to choose their angles just right so that when they were shooting video with the news anchor talking with a Kuwaiti landmark in the background they couldn't show the water because if you were to see the water you'd see the jet skiiers and sail boats enjoying a typical afternoon on the water.

[Elwar]

Go back and watch the Drew Carey show...

you might even notice his Reason t-shirt on a couple of occasions

[tmosley]

I'm So mad now, the Revolution totally ruined my favorite Star Trek series. I began to realize that the Star Trek Federation showed classic signs of Communism.

'A lot has changed in the last 300 years. People are no longer obsessed with the acquisition of 'things'. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions. We've grown out of our infancy.' - Picard

And how did this 'change' come about? Did Obama become President?

Actually, they have access to unlimited amounts of any type of goods they want via the replicator. The type of civilization they have in that show is called "Eudamonia" (Greek for "happiness"), where economics move from those of scarcity to those of plenty (we are starting to see that with the internet--the information economy). In such a system, people no longer have to work for a living, but do so for pleasure. There is no need for factory workers and such, so people choose to become artisans, scientists, explorers, etc.

It's the ultimate end point of all paths of human society involving technological advance and imperfect government control systems. Free market gets there the fastest, as increasing mechanization reduces prices to the point where it is no longer economical to charge for most goods (much like you can access these forums or any number of other services on the internet for free).

In theory, communism leads there, but in reality, they stop short due to lack of incentives for industrialization and punishment of divergent ideas.

[Anti Federalist]

Nothing from the "pop culture", MSM, CW science and health or poltical realm enters my cerebellum without having to go through at least three or four bullshit filters.

Not to say it doesn't get through, it just gets, "quarantined" I suppose.

[Expatriate]

I like trying to play those games with no taxes.

I play age of empires and try to follow the principles of no taxes, friends with all...alliances with none, I don't attack other countries...

My economy was in great shape, all of my citizens were happy...

It really does make the game a challenge and you certainly have to get through some tough times (early attacks are the hardest) but you definitely become the most advanced and wealthy nation in the end.

The problem I've noticed with those games is they are designed to only work well if you use an authoritarian approach. In Sim City unless you zone all the land, run water, gas, electricity lines etc. nobody will even move in and start building. Then unless you raise taxes so you can buy the people everything they want nobody will ever be happy, and they will live in their houses and do nothing.

For once I'd like to see a game where your "subjects" had AI and could actually think for themselves without you telling them what to do. You would found a country, write a constitution and enact a system of government, then sit back and see if it would survive and flourish without you pulling the strings. It would be kind of like a culture in a petri dish.

Of course nobody will ever design a game like that because they want you to have your hands full running everything so you don't get bored. So in every strategy or economic simulator I own, the people are just mindless robots that do what you tell them, and do nothing if you don't give them a job. Totally unrealistic. Has anyone ever heard of a game that's not like that?

[Malakai]

Oh yes. Lots of stuff.

I still like 24 but it was far fetched enough to be considered fantasy for me. Even the torture they do is mellow, no beatings or waterboarding ect.

The FBI shows probably bug me the most right now. They seem to be pushing the idea that the constitution doesn't matter!
Any show that embraces gov or statism or collectivism pisses me off =)

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

For example:

Now, when I play games like Call of Duty 4, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, "Well, my character shouldn't even be in Baghdad or wherever he is in the first place."All through the demo I couldn't help thinking that the enemies looked way too sophisticated, organized, and well-funded to be terrorists.

[1000-points-of-fright]

I'm So mad now, the Revolution totally ruined my favorite Star Trek series. I began to realize that the Star Trek Federation showed classic signs of Communism.

'A lot has changed in the last 300 years. People are no longer obsessed with the acquisition of 'things'. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions. We've grown out of our infancy.' - Picard

And how did this 'change' come about? Did Obama become President?

Matter Replicators. Think about it... once buying a Matter Replicator becomes as cheap and easy as buying a microwave oven at Target, what else do you need besides a house and possibly a car (don't trust those transporters)? Get your own Holo-Deck and all your entertainment needs are fulfilled too.

[TastyWheat]

I've lost a lot of respect for Robin Hood.

[nygiantfan]

Well I always see those commercials: "Sell your old gold jewelry for COLD HARD CASH!" I'm like haha are you serious... :P

[haaaylee]

I went to watch a movie in the theatres awhile back with my dad and one of the ads (which is another thing that annoys me, adverts before movies now?? consumers consumers!) before it was a Kid Rock music video with soliders and war. But it made it all seem patriotic, and showed the soldiers giving kids candy or something. I forget the lyrics now but it seemed so bizarre i was sitting upright staring at the screen thinking "WTF" i almost wanted to turn to my dad and starting talking about interventionism.

[Conza88]

I've lost a lot of respect for Robin Hood.

The bastards (socialists - like they always do) subverted the message. Of course the media and elites set the esoteric agenda.

Robin Hood uses to TAKE FROM THE RICH (The king etc, because they TAXED exorbitantly) and give back to the POOR - the people's OWN property back...

1966 Robin Hood version is teh real deal from what I was watching.. :D actually states that pretty much.

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well one thing good came out of the movement...it's getting ya'll off the idiot box. I haven't been much of a tv watcher since the 80's. Movies, television, etc. all disinformation propaganda..used to brainwash people. I prefer the internet...i can go where I want. Watch what I want because all of the television channels are run by the same folk. First line of communist brainwashing are the governmetn schools..and then all media. tones

[SeanEdwards]

Everytime an overpowered ret pally melts my face I scream, "Damn you to hell Bernanke!!!!"

[RSLudlum]

hasn't ruined any of my 'entertainment'. It's actually enhanced much of what little media veiwing I take part in, eg the MSM is like a new form of comedy for me now.

[AstroSamurai]

The West Wing...it's always been extremely liberal, in fact it's been called the left wing, but I was pretty liberal too when it first came on the air in 1999 or whenever it was, and I truly loved that show. I still do for the quality writing and acting and the well intent, although misplaced. But these days I can pick apart its policies with ease and feel as though I could trounce President Bartlett in a debate.

[TheConstitutionLives]

For example:

Now, when I play games like Call of Duty 4, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, "Well, my character shouldn't even be in Baghdad or wherever he is in the first place."

It's ridiculous, but I can't help it now.


- Absolutely. I've thought the same thing when playing that very game.

[Mandrik]

Bill Maher. I never really adored everything he did, but I thought he was funny and since he was attacking Bush most of the time, it was funny. But ever since this election fiasco, I can't stand to watch him. I literally get irritated listening to him or any of his guests.

Ditto on the Daily Show/Colbert, but only like 50% ruined. Those guys are still good with the jokes.

x2 on this post. I used to watch Real Time with Bill Maher, mostly because I enjoyed his guest. But I haven't been able to watch that show in a while. I watched a little bit when he had RP on and was calling him his hero, but I couldn't stomach his show for much longer after that.

I stopped watching Stewart/Colbert for about 6 months. I started back up about a month ago, but it's not the same. So far Stewart has been very gentle on Obama, but I'll at least wait and see how he is towards Obama once he's sworn in. I want him to rip up the Democrats when they are constantly screwing up.

[Conza88]

x2 on this post. I used to watch Real Time with Bill Maher, mostly because I enjoyed his guest. But I haven't been able to watch that show in a while. I watched a little bit when he had RP on and was calling him his hero, but I couldn't stomach his show for much longer after that.

I stopped watching Stewart/Colbert for about 6 months. I started back up about a month ago, but it's not the same. So far Stewart has been very gentle on Obama, but I'll at least wait and see how he is towards Obama once he's sworn in. I want him to rip up the Democrats when they are constantly screwing up.

At the start I was yeaah, go Colbert / Stewart.. would watch them nightly.. it became habit.. get my oreos and milk, lmao... And ha ha at the establishment..

Then comes teh Obama thong... hardly care for it anymore (don't).

[SeanEdwards]

Ok, on a serious note, I used to enjoy watching the Charlie Rose show, but his blatant shilling for the CFR agenda is just so overbearingly obvious that now I want to slap him. Right now on my TV, he's interviewing some asshole who came right out and said "we need a global central bank", and Charlie just goes along with facilitiating the lies about our economic system and hyping global governance.

"Capitalism out of control...we need a powerful international body that can restrain states like the U.S. from excessive borrowing...we need more global oversight of financial market...the IMF needs lots more money and power...."

Fucking prick.

[james1906]

On the other side, I love South Park more than ever before. I also think CNN should fire everyone but Cafferty.

[Conza88]

On the other side, I love South Park more than ever before. I also think CNN should fire everyone but Cafferty.

No, fire him too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS801ZWYeSs

[james1906]

hmmm....never saw that clip

[ClayTrainor]

I'm not able to tolerate much of what's on tv Anymore but I still watch the following shows regularly.

- south park
- the office
- entourage
- family guy
- two and a half men
- lost

That's pretty much every single show I bother to watch, my list is MUCH shorter than it was 2 years ago.

The news is something I will never attain from the tv again.

[qh4dotcom]

Considering half of Hollywood publically supported Obama, I can't watch many movies anymore because of detest of the actors. Don't watch the idiot box anymore.

I feel the same way too...why go waste my cash to look at actors in movies who just screwed me with their votes and endorsements.

[constitutional]

Yes! It feels like I hate many shows and movies. For example, the movie Eagle Eye, how many people died to save the president/congress? The machine was just following the constitution/declaration of independence!

I still enjoy Prison Break from Fox News. Still has the element of corrupt bastards running the country.

Gaming is a different story, I enjoy gaming. BF2 , BF DC, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six games still love em. :)

[briand92]

I went to watch a movie in the theatres awhile back with my dad and one of the ads (which is another thing that annoys me, adverts before movies now?? consumers consumers!) before it was a Kid Rock music video with soliders and war. But it made it all seem patriotic, and showed the soldiers giving kids candy or something. I forget the lyrics now but it seemed so bizarre i was sitting upright staring at the screen thinking "WTF" i almost wanted to turn to my dad and starting talking about interventionism.

Yes, I hate that video. It is blatant propaganda. I'd be willing to bet our tax dollars paid for it.

[Roxi]

No, fire him too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS801ZWYeSs



wow, and i read jack cafferty's book and loved it, i really like(d) the guy... im going to just justify that by saying he must have been brainwashed, so instead of hating him ill just feel bad for him :)

[danberkeley]

For me, it ruined Call of Duty x.x, Medal of Honor x.x, Battlefield Vietnam/etc, SimCity x.x, Civilization x.x, etc.
It ruined the World Cup, now only watch the UEFA Champions League.
Ruined any movies having to do with the state being great. I.e. ID4, Airforce One, etc.
Ruined Discovery Channel, Travel Channel, History Channel, TLC, Military Channel, etc.




I did the same with Sim City where I had a surplus with no taxes after makig neighborhood deals and limited spending. The town threw a parade for me.

lol. i loved those parades. :D


I was in Kuwait City right on the Gulf and my buddy was telling me about how during the first Gulf War the news cameras had to choose their angles just right so that when they were shooting video with the news anchor talking with a Kuwaiti landmark in the background they couldn't show the water because if you were to see the water you'd see the jet skiiers and sail boats enjoying a typical afternoon on the water.

lol. :D

[Wadesc]

Well you pretty much have to turn off your brain to even think about watching TV. Or watching a movie.

Theres a few notable exceptions (Jericho ruled :D)

[Conza88]

Well you pretty much have to turn off your brain to even think about watching TV. Or watching a movie.

Theres a few notable exceptions (Jericho ruled :D)

See sig. ;)

[amonasro]

I've noticed that the talking heads on all the major networks are far too good-looking to know what they're talking about.

[Mini-Me]

I've lost a lot of respect for Robin Hood.

The Disney version is still awesome though, from what I remember...King John is the bad guy, using the Sheriff of Nottingham to collect taxes and rob the poor. In other words, it's a bit like real life, and I can't fault Robin Hood for stealing things back from that asshole. :D

[Mini-Me]

I went to watch a movie in the theatres awhile back with my dad and one of the ads (which is another thing that annoys me, adverts before movies now?? consumers consumers!) before it was a Kid Rock music video with soliders and war. But it made it all seem patriotic, and showed the soldiers giving kids candy or something. I forget the lyrics now but it seemed so bizarre i was sitting upright staring at the screen thinking "WTF" i almost wanted to turn to my dad and starting talking about interventionism.

Soldiers: ENJOYYYYYYY!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k)

Alright, my turn:
I've pretty much experienced the same disillusionment as everyone else. I'm a lot more critical and perceptive now whenever I'm exposed to any popular media, and I can pick up on subtle [and blatant] propaganda a lot more easily than I used to be able to. I'm not even sure if my conscious or subconscious mind is doing the brunt of the work, but I've certainly become more guarded when I take in new information than I used to be. Thankfully, I've never really watched much TV anyway...I'll watch the occasional episode of South Park or Family Guy, and I'll also catch some of the news when it's on and I happen to be around. Sometimes it just makes me roll my eyes, and other times it makes me unspeakably angry (someone gave a great image of a fire-breathing dragon earlier in this thread...). I've always gotten more of my news from the Internet than from anywhere else anyway (at least since my mid teens), but never before have I been so entirely disgusted with TV news. Everyone around me now knows that news channels put me into a mood and invite comments about what's true, what's half-true and deliberately distorted, what is a flat-out lie, etc. ;)

I've never been a big TV guy, but I've definitely always enjoyed video games and movies...
A few people mentioned Call of Duty 4. I've never really played any of the Call of Duty games (or any "realistic" combat games), but you guys are right...I can't even bring myself to start the single player campaign, because of the same exact reason everyone else mentioned: After watching the intro to the campaign, I thought, "Why the hell am I even over in the Middle East?" I have no problem playing an obvious and over-the-top antihero like Kratos from God of War, but the real-life parallels of modern war games really bother me and make me question the morality of the cause my "hero" character is fighting for.

When it comes to movies, I'm constantly noticing the same propaganda that everyone else has mentioned. Sometimes this doesn't really bother me or hurt my enjoyment of a film, since I can entertain ideas without accepting them. Like AntiFederalist mentioned about himself, my anti-bullshit filters tend to "quarantine" facts and concepts that are meant to consciously or subconsciously influence my beliefs. For instance, watching American Gangster was an interesting exercise, because I don't really think it's meant to be a particularly propagandistic movie, but it carries several false assumptions that I have problems with. On one hand, Russell Crowe's character was sympathetic, and his goal of bringing down corrupt cops was a noble cause I could get behind. On the other hand, considering he was a federal agent in the "war on drugs," I couldn't help but see him as more of an antihero. Sure, Denzel was a pretty ruthless gangster and all, but I kept thinking, "Damn, if only they legalized drugs, none of this would have ever been necessary, and none of this violence would have ever occurred." When Crowe busted into the drug lab unannounced with a team of cops and a lot of guns, I couldn't exactly cheer for him as he blew away guys who were basically shooting at intruders who were breaking and entering and raiding their business. I still enjoyed the movie a lot, but the underlying premise of the War on Drugs and federal involvement really bothered me (though I did like Denzel's lines about how taking him down wouldn't change anything about the drug business...I feel like the inclusion of such insights helped redeem the sour aspects of the movie). Of course, sometimes the indoctrination-to-entertainment ratio is unacceptably high, and I spend (or expect to spend) so much time noticing and filtering out attempts to push some agenda that it's just not worth it. For instance, I can't even bring myself to watch Eagle Eye, since the Department of Homeland Gestapo propaganda in the previews and synopsis alone was enough to turn me away. I recall Billy Bob Thornton's character was described as a "patriotic" homeland security agent...YUCK! Of course, now that I've bothered to write a few sentences about it, if anyone else knows that the actual movie was more even-handed (or even enjoyable), let me know. ;)

[Andrew Ryan]

I can't watch the Jon Daily show anymore.