Pre-collapse Christmas List

[georgiapeach]

I am putting a grain mill on my list this year and I'm not sure which one to get. I'd like to get a hand type, bonus points if it can be converted to electric.
I'd also like to get a *good* heirloom gardening book. I have one that is useless already. It's mostly pretty pictures and the rest is expounding the virtues of raising heirloom plants. I'd like one that goes more in depth as to how to prevent cross-pollination, how to keep seeds, etc. Companion planting and natural pest deterents would be great also.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
If you feel like sharing your list please do. It might give me some more ideas for mine.


Just doing my part to stimulate the economy. ;)

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Water purifying systems

Bow and arrow

Horse

[youngbuck]

For a grain mill, here is a very high quality one to consider, though the cost is kinda high: http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/store/prep_products/clgmill.html

The one main thing on my list is a little more ammo, and some extra filters for my Berkey water filter.

Here's a good place to order some very-long-term storage food for an awesome price:

https://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10151&langId=-1&storeId=10151&krypto=1uSEhjcmQDusd5Cn9kbBQgu8ChFvq1tWNK6FIV8mLmF dFR3yam08q2l%2Fx0S02pE4P0a%2FsZgvVpHt%0AHNSxqGZTQ% 2FZsIB2xn%2BV%2FOmnZEamqAnlc7FpslYerMqw%2F%2FzpDmS 0K&ddkey=http:ClickInfo

I'll probably pick some beans/rice from them, and get a nice stash of canned foods situated.

[heavenlyboy34]

I am putting a grain mill on my list this year and I'm not sure which one to get. I'd like to get a hand type, bonus points if it can be converted to electric.
I'd also like to get a *good* heirloom gardening book. I have one that is useless already. It's mostly pretty pictures and the rest is expounding the virtues of raising heirloom plants. I'd like one that goes more in depth as to how to prevent cross-pollination, how to keep seeds, etc. Companion planting and natural pest deterents would be great also.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
If you feel like sharing your list please do. It might give me some more ideas for mine.


Just doing my part to stimulate the economy. ;)

you don't need grains, mate. Grains are just for fattening up cattle (and humans, in many cases). You can live on fresh veggies, fruits, meats, nuts, dairy, and so on.

[youngbuck]

you don't need grains, mate. Grains are just for fattening up cattle (and humans, in many cases). You can live on fresh veggies, fruits, meats, nuts, dairy, and so on.

Except those thing don't keep nearly as well for long-term storage. Sure, it's ideal to have a sustainable and constant supply of the things you listed, but it's often not practical or attainable in an urban/suburban environment.

I agree though, humans consume waaay too much grains nowadays. We really ought to look at the profiles of human diets of ancient civilizations who had essentially NO chronic illness, and that will shed some light on how we should really eat.

Refer to Dr. Weston A. Price's book Nutriton and Physical Degeneration. ;)

[georgiapeach]

Thanks for the suggestions!! I am revising my list today. ;)

[Roxi]

omg so funny, my family thinks im crazy... i have MRE's and colloidal silver on my list (http://roxisjunk.blogspot.com)

it would be interesting to know what you all have on your lists this year

[tmosley]

I want solar cells. I've been wanting to make some solar panels for a while, but those things are pretty darn expensive.

[Danke]

I use bromine tables in my hot tub. Does anyone know if those Berkey water filters can make that water potable? Or any other filters for that matter? Thought in a emergency, that would be a easy water storage/supply.

[heavenlyboy34]

I would suggest you add a greenhouse and seedlings for all your favorite fruits and veggies to your list. This will help you feed yourself during the depression. A distillery would be nice too! :D

[steve005]

add seeds, ammo, and for drinking water they have water distillers that all you need is a fire or heat source and you get 100% pure water

[Ninja Homer]

All I want for Christmas: :D

http://www.milehidistilling.com/13_Gallon_50L_2_Piece_Column_Stainless_Steel_Mil_p/16016.htm

[Danke]

All I want for Christmas: :D

http://www.milehidistilling.com/13_Gallon_50L_2_Piece_Column_Stainless_Steel_Mil_p/16016.htm

http://www.milehidistilling.com/v/vspfiles/photos/16016-2.gif

If you get that for x-mas, can I come over and see it in action? Maybe a test drive too? :D

[thehighwaymanq]

-new RP book
-C4L supplies

[Danke]

I want a B-61

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/B-61_bomb_(DOE).jpg

[DamianTV]

http://www.yeedesign.com/themenu/uploaded_images/TopRamen.jpg

[georgiapeach]

I was thinking green house mats and a, um, "koi" pond should be on the list, but I didn't want to be too greedy.
I think that a distillery might make him a good present though. :D

[roho76]

I want solar cells. I've been wanting to make some solar panels for a while, but those things are pretty darn expensive.

You can buy lots of .5 Volt solar cells off ebay for pretty cheap. Wire them in series and make a nice panel out of plywood. The cost of each panel would be around $200-$300.

Here is the Instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build_a_60_Watt_Solar_Panel/

I also like this one too:
Convert motorcycle into electric.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-96-Volt-Electric-Motorcycle/

[tmosley]

You can buy lots of .5 Volt solar cells off ebay for pretty cheap. Wire them in series and make a nice panel out of plywood. The cost of each panel would be around $200-$300.

Here is the Instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build_a_60_Watt_Solar_Panel/

I also like this one too:
Convert motorcycle into electric.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-96-Volt-Electric-Motorcycle/

Yup. That's why I'm asking for that for Christmas. Without Ebay, no-one could find that kind of stuff.

I'm also getting my grandfather's .30-06, and I'm going to try to talk my Dad into giving me his reloading equipment (he never uses it anymore, where both me and my uncle live within 100 miles of each other, and are both survival "nuts".

[ihsv]

Ammo and mags.

[SnappleLlama]

Aw, come on! Am I the only one who wants a Wii Fit for X-Moose?! :)

[enjerth]

For a grain mill, here is a very high quality one to consider, though the cost is kinda high: http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/store/prep_products/clgmill.html

The one main thing on my list is a little more ammo, and some extra filters for my Berkey water filter.

Here's a good place to order some very-long-term storage food for an awesome price:

https://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10151&langId=-1&storeId=10151&krypto=1uSEhjcmQDusd5Cn9kbBQgu8ChFvq1tWNK6FIV8mLmF dFR3yam08q2l%2Fx0S02pE4P0a%2FsZgvVpHt%0AHNSxqGZTQ% 2FZsIB2xn%2BV%2FOmnZEamqAnlc7FpslYerMqw%2F%2FzpDmS 0K&ddkey=http:ClickInfo

I'll probably pick some beans/rice from them, and get a nice stash of canned foods situated.

I was just looking at that one, but I need to stretch my buying power a bit further. This one, significantly cheaper, has a package for $269 that will also roll grains and grind meat.

http://www.survivalunlimited.com/grainmill.htm

[Original_Intent]

I am putting a grain mill on my list this year and I'm not sure which one to get. I'd like to get a hand type, bonus points if it can be converted to electric.
I'd also like to get a *good* heirloom gardening book. I have one that is useless already. It's mostly pretty pictures and the rest is expounding the virtues of raising heirloom plants. I'd like one that goes more in depth as to how to prevent cross-pollination, how to keep seeds, etc. Companion planting and natural pest deterents would be great also.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
If you feel like sharing your list please do. It might give me some more ideas for mine.


Just doing my part to stimulate the economy. ;)

I think I read a while back about a grain mill that was run from an exercise bike. I'd sure like one of those! If you have ever used a hand grinder to make even a cup of flour, you know what I am talking about.

[angelatc]

No gift cards!!!


. We really ought to look at the profiles of human diets of ancient civilizations who had essentially NO chronic illness, and that will shed some light on how we should really eat.

DIdn't those folks have an average life span of about 35?

[angelatc]

Aw, come on! Am I the only one who wants a Wii Fit for X-Moose?! :)

No and I want Aerosmith Guitar Hero too.

[Danke]

All I want for X-mas...
http://www.funnypicturefunnyphoto.com/funny-picture-photo-blowupdoll-skyguy-pic.jpg

[clowns789]

All I want for X-mas...
http://www.funnypicturefunnyphoto.com/funny-picture-photo-blowupdoll-skyguy-pic.jpg

Whatever happened to two front teeth? :p

[rancher89]

16 rain barrels (complete kits please......I have a lot of roof space..)
MORE spare Berkey filters
5 cords of dried, split firewood, stacked neatly please
2 paw paw trees, a couple more blueberry plants
slave labor to help me finish clearing the sod off the new garden plot (it's the same size it was yesterday, but I swear it looks a lot bigger each time I look at it. sigh)
distilling equipment (I'll take the attachment in the picture if it's still available, see slave labor above...)
Wine making equipment
Jerusalem artichoke tubers (I can't believe these are so hard to find and are so expensive when you find them, example 1# for $25...???:eek::confused:)
More smilies on rpf's:D

oh, yeah, peace

[Danke]

http://www.efoodsdirect.com/product-display.html?c=1&id=uholi

[Osprey]

16 rain barrels (complete kits please......I have a lot of roof space..)
MORE spare Berkey filters
5 cords of dried, split firewood, stacked neatly please
2 paw paw trees, a couple more blueberry plants
slave labor to help me finish clearing the sod off the new garden plot (it's the same size it was yesterday, but I swear it looks a lot bigger each time I look at it. sigh)
distilling equipment (I'll take the attachment in the picture if it's still available, see slave labor above...)
Wine making equipment
Jerusalem artichoke tubers (I can't believe these are so hard to find and are so expensive when you find them, example 1# for $25...???:eek::confused:)
More smilies on rpf's:D

oh, yeah, peace

Yes, I need to get some more black berkey's (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/berkeyfilterreplacements-c-67/blackberkeyfilters2-p-187) for backup. I'm thinking at least one set of 2, but I may opt for 2 sets just in case conditions are poor for a long duration.

[heavenlyboy34]

http://www.milehidistilling.com/v/vspfiles/photos/16016-2.gif

If you get that for x-mas, can I come over and see it in action? Maybe a test drive too? :D
I'll take one of those too...as long as all parts shown are included. ;)

[tangent4ronpaul]

I am putting a grain mill on my list this year and I'm not sure which one to get. I'd like to get a hand type, bonus points if it can be converted to electric.
I'd also like to get a *good* heirloom gardening book. I have one that is useless already. It's mostly pretty pictures and the rest is expounding the virtues of raising heirloom plants. I'd like one that goes more in depth as to how to prevent cross-pollination, how to keep seeds, etc. Companion planting and natural pest deterents would be great also.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
If you feel like sharing your list please do. It might give me some more ideas for mine.


Just doing my part to stimulate the economy. ;)

I'm going to second the suggestion for the Country Living grain mill. It's a pleasure to operate. I had another grain mill before and almost never used it because it was a real pain to grind even a cup of flower.

It also has spare parts available and not just the burrs.

-t

[s35wf]

i just ordered this grain mill from beprepared.com
http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_FP%20M100_A_name_E_Hand%20Grain %20Mill

i've never used a grain mill and havent baked bread in several decades; so wish me luck! I also just ordered a global sun oven, so ill give it a whirl when all the stuff gets here.

[tmosley]

i just ordered this grain mill from beprepared.com
http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_FP%20M100_A_name_E_Hand%20Grain %20Mill

i've never used a grain mill and havent baked bread in several decades; so wish me luck! I also just ordered a global sun oven, so ill give it a whirl when all the stuff gets here.

Heh, I got that same one from a garage sale for $2.

Just thought I'd make you jealous :p