Gerald Celente Predicts Revolution [Celente SUPER-thread]

[linux]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg

[thomaspaine23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg

[RSLudlum]

Interesting...I also heard Schnitt (spelling??) on his radio show say he heard that Murdoch is telling FOX News to 'lay off' of Obama....You may notice that O'reilly et al are seemingly softening up.

[Bruno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg


We can only hope he is right (non-violently, of course)

[puppetmaster]

maybe sooner...

[Kludge]

Cool, I never realized how many ridiculous niceties and social "obligations" I could stop recognizing if America were indigent.

[Azurite]

I just learned about this guy and read a little prediction of his from 2007...
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=964

I am sure you are all familiar with him, and given his forecasts for 2009, he sure as hell appears to know what he is talking about.... Why isn't he a household name? Or am I just that far out of the loop?

[PatriotOne]

The signs are all around you. The experts are telling you. The only question is are you going to be a victim or not? I need a comprehensive book that tells me how to prepare for the worse. Any suggestions?

Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

Trend forecaster, renowned for being accurate in the past, says that America will cease to be a developed nation within 4 years, crisis will be “worse than the great depression”

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, November 13, 2008

The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.

Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

“We’re going to see the end of the retail Christmas….we’re going to see a fundamental shift take place….putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,” said Celente, adding that the situation would be “worse than the great depression”.

“America’s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,” said Celente, noting that people’s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.

Watch the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg&eurl=http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

Celente, who successfully predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar, told UPI in November last year that the following year would be known as “The Panic of 2008,” adding that “giants (would) tumble to their deaths,” which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and others. He also said that the dollar would eventually be devalued by as much as 90 per cent.

The consequence of what we have seen unfold this year would lead to a lowering in living standards, Celente predicted a year ago, which is also being borne out by plummeting retail sales figures.

The prospect of revolution was a concept echoed by a British Ministry of Defence report last year, which predicted that within 30 years, the growing gap between the super rich and the middle class, along with an urban underclass threatening social order would mean, “The world’s middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest,” and that, “The middle classes could become a revolutionary class.”

In a separate recent interview, Celente went further on the subject of revolution in America.

“There will be a revolution in this country,” he said. “It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen.”

“The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That’s going to be the big one because people can’t afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You’re going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop.”

“It’s going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and we’re going to see many more.”

“We’re going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. It’s going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. It’s going to come as a shock and with it, there’s going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, people’s minds weren’t wrecked on all these modern drugs – over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass of very desperate people with their minds chemically blown beyond anybody’s comprehension.”

The George Washington blog has compiled a list of quotes attesting to Celente’s accuracy as a trend forecaster.

“When CNN wants to know about the Top Trends, we ask Gerald Celente.”
— CNN Headline News

“A network of 25 experts whose range of specialties would rival many university faculties.”
— The Economist

“Gerald Celente has a knack for getting the zeitgeist right.”
— USA Today

“There’s not a better trend forecaster than Gerald Celente. The man knows what he’s talking about.”
- CNBC

“Those who take their predictions seriously … consider the Trends Research Institute.”
— The Wall Street Journal

“Gerald Celente is always ahead of the curve on trends and uncannily on the mark … he’s one of the most accurate forecasters around.”
— The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

“Mr. Celente tracks the world’s social, economic and business trends for corporate clients.”
— The New York Times

“Mr. Celente is a very intelligent guy. We are able to learn about trends from an authority.”
— 48 Hours, CBS News

“Gerald Celente has a solid track record. He has predicted everything from the 1987 stock market crash and the demise of the Soviet Union to green marketing and corporate downsizing.”
— The Detroit News

“Gerald Celente forecast the 1987 stock market crash, ‘green marketing,’ and the boom in gourmet coffees.”
— Chicago Tribune

“The Trends Research Institute is the Standard and Poors of Popular Culture.”
— The Los Angeles Times

“If Nostradamus were alive today, he’d have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente.”
— New York Post

So there you have it - hardly a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard now is he? The price of not heeding his warnings will be far greater than the cost of preparing for the future now. Storable food and gold are two good places to make a start.

[georgiapeach]

:eek: I don't think that there is any comprehensive book that will tell us how to prepare. In fact, I don't think you can comprehensively prepare for it.
We should start a link compilation to info that we can download for later. There is already some good links in the Freedom Living section where you will also find book suggestions for a lot of topics.
Get the basics covered: water - stored and a way to replenish,food and some type of food production, shelter, means to defend it. Then think backup plan should you need to relocate.
Anything after that is gravy. I like gravy.

[tropicangela]

This might help people.


Survival Report – Food Storage

http://www.survivalreportblog.com/Food_storage.html


Long term food storage

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7_cTn6YpE

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PylQCiFBtH4

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfcWNOWUit8




Food Storage Secrets Videos - Canning/Jarring

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paqaoVx1t-Y

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEA6qllrtzg

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2db54rv2pYg

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpC-RLkt11A


Survival Gardening

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t5LmLu2UCE

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOqxyGNjzI4

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpX_PjMvi9k

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4KXlKSxqWw

Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKydUzciyU

Part 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut5BjlilqRU

Part 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBhpzfrMgAk

Part 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQlneCkpuSA

[ghengis86]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=134413

ridiculous amount of info in this thread!

[lucius]

Cut and paste--very nice. Thanks!


This might help people.


Survival Report – Food Storage

http://www.survivalreportblog.com/Food_storage.html


Long term food storage

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7_cTn6YpE

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PylQCiFBtH4

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfcWNOWUit8




Food Storage Secrets Videos - Canning/Jarring

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paqaoVx1t-Y

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEA6qllrtzg

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2db54rv2pYg

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpC-RLkt11A


Survival Gardening

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t5LmLu2UCE

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOqxyGNjzI4

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpX_PjMvi9k

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4KXlKSxqWw

Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKydUzciyU

Part 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut5BjlilqRU

Part 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBhpzfrMgAk

Part 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQlneCkpuSA

[Anti Federalist]

Could very well be, although TPTB have been incredibly successful over the years in keeping the status quo sputtering along.

This time, though, I think this may have gotten out of their control.

Yes, prepare, by all means, but also prepare for something more important and more transcedental.

Prepare to fight for a piece of land, a nation of our own, carved out of the land mass that will be the disintegrating USA.

A place that we can "reset the clock to zero" and start anew, with a refreshed vision of liberty and freedom for the 21st century and beyond.

Failure, in this effort, is not an option.

The alternative is a new dark ages, punctuated by, and enhanced with, a high tech, global "inquisition state" of stunning brutality.

[Arklatex]

Sweet youtubes, check this digg out:

http://digg.com/world_news/Major_Announcement_coming_to_American_People_Janua ry_2009

[ShowMeLiberty]

Could very well be, although TPTB have been incredibly successful over the years in keeping the status quo sputtering along.

This time, though, I think this may have gotten out of their control.

Yes, prepare, by all means, but also prepare for something more important and more transcedental.

Prepare to fight for a piece of land, a nation of our own, carved out of the land mass that will be the disintegrating USA.

A place that we can "reset the clock to zero" and start anew, with a refreshed vision of liberty and freedom for the 21st century and beyond.

Failure, in this effort, is not an option.

The alternative is a new dark ages, punctuated by, and enhanced with, a high tech, global "inquisition state" of stunning brutality.


+ Millions

There are many people who see it coming. It's not just us.

[PatriotLegion]

Just like Paul says "A Country that doesn't produce can survive". We lost millions of jobs through manufacturing, technology and service over the last 10 or so years. People been supplementing there income with credit, how good can that be, when all jobs are disappearing!

[Anti Federalist]

Just like Paul says "A Country that doesn't produce can survive". We lost millions of jobs through manufacturing, technology and service over the last 10 or so years. People been supplementing there income with credit, how good can that be, when all jobs are disappearing!

It can't. Be good that is.

The piling on of debt, like the piling on of cargo on a ship, has led to a literal "upside down" moment in housing. The only thing that can happen next is capsizing and sinking.

I suspect that TPTB had it all figured out to be contained within the housing financing market and associated businesses.

Their only solution is to create even more debt.

And this can only end in a couple of ways, all of which are bad.

[PatriotOne]

Good links. Thanks. I keep thinking if I prepared like I do for camping, except for one yr, all will be covered....lol. But somehow I don't think that will work when I can't even get a block of ice.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Good links. Thanks. I keep thinking if I prepared like I do for camping, except for one yr, all will be covered....lol. But somehow I don't think that will work when I can't even get a block of ice.

But that would be a good start. ;)

[Agent CSL]

Good links. I'd start with compiling knowledge above the bare essentials. The internet will probably cease to exist as we know it, and with it, years of lost history and dissenting articles. They can take your food, water, guns, silver, gold and shelter; but knowledge is something that they cannot take and something you can share with everyone.

Start with knowledge, then work your way down - water, food, then assets (silver, gold, weapons).

I'm by no means a survivalist or doomsdayer. Just someone who wants to put in her $1. :)

[ihsv]

Good post. Thanks for the info! I'm having enough trouble sleeping as it is :D

[RonPaulCentral]

:eek: I don't think that there is any comprehensive book that will tell us how to prepare. In fact, I don't think you can comprehensively prepare for it.
We should start a link compilation to info that we can download for later. There is already some good links in the Freedom Living section where you will also find book suggestions for a lot of topics.
Get the basics covered: water - stored and a way to replenish,food and some type of food production, shelter, means to defend it. Then think backup plan should you need to relocate.
Anything after that is gravy. I like gravy.

I highly suggest reading this book (it is fiction but it is more like a prep guide):

http://www2.xlibris.com/bookstore/bookdisplay.asp?bookid=35549

It was written by the guy that runs this blog:

http://www.survivalblog.com which is a great site.

[georgiapeach]

Since you mentioned the need for ice, you might be interested in a book I found on Amazon. I think I might put it on my Christmas list:

Preserving Food without Freezing or Canning: Traditional Techniques Using Salt, Oil, Sugar, Alcohol, Vinegar, Drying, Cold Storage, and Lactic Fermentation
by
The Gardeners and Farmers of Centre Terre Vivante


http://www.amazon.com/Preserving-Food-without-Freezing-Canning/dp/1933392592/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226606444&sr=8-1

[tangent4ronpaul]

Don't get caught with your pantry down <- primary - kind of an enlarged version of the easier to find "Making the Best of Basics"
Carla Emeries old fashioned recipe book

a good one is : Bad Times Primer - but it's OOP, try used.addall.com

When All Hell Breaks Loose looks really good (reading now) and is by the same author as the excellent: 98.6 Degrees: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive

For wilderness (and other) survival:
Outdoor Survival Skills - Larry Dean Olsen <- primary
Primitive Technology book of Earth Skills

7 things that will make a world of difference in order of priority:
a sheath knife
a high end expedition water filter that you can clean the filter on
A poncho
A GOOD (not disaster) wool blanket
flint and steel or a magnesium bar fire starter (purely luxury item)
50' of 550 (parachute) cord (pure luxury item)
a multi-tool

-t

[gilliganscorner]

Folks,

This thread leads to something I have been yammering on about for a while. It is that important. You can do it now. Today. Even if the State does NOT collapse (anyone buy that anymore?). Agorism. It's yours if the will is there. From a previous thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1652039):



As most of you know, we are unwilling or unwitting participants in the "red market", that is to say, we are enslaved to a taxation/inflation system backed by State violence. The State siphons off a HUGE (it wouldn't be out there to say 80% if you factor in ALL direct and indirect taxes you pay, and the REAL inflation rate - some say between 12 and 15%) of your productivity by confiscating your money directly via taxation, and indirectly via inflation.

You cannot trade your productivity for anything other than Federal Reserve Points (FRPs) in the red market - as you are required to report your earnings to the State for taxation, regulation, and confiscation. Legal tender laws ensure that. The State demands taxes be paid in FRPs. This creates an artificial demand for those notes that have an arbitrary unit (the dollar) whose purchasing power is stolen from you by an arbitrary force (the State/Banking cartel - a.k.a The Federal Reserve). In other words, the State ensures that Gresham's Law works (http://gilliganscorner.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/greshams-law-only-works-because-of-state-violence/).

If you do not pay your taxes, the State will ultimately (after a great deal of harassment) deploy bad guys wearing clown suits and shiny badges to your house with guns to waterboard you and your family. It is raw terrorism. Who are you more afraid of? The State or some guy allegedly hiding in a cave with bad kidneys (who is more than likely dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zScYmvmANcA)) half-way around the world, or the IRS Terrorist Regime? I think we all know the answer to that question.

OK, Back on track.

We all know the US is bankrupt. It is only a matter of time before the economic system we are enslaved to implodes. The only reason that it has not collapsed like a third rate banana republic is that it's dollar is still viewed as the world's reserve currency (thanks to the Bretton Woods agreement that created the US dollar hegemony)...But that viewpoint is rapidly changing as Dr. Paul noted in this speech to Congress in February of 2006 (http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm).

Prior to the implosion, you will feel the pain of your dollar losing value by seeing it in soaring prices. Average Americans, lobotomized of critical thinking skills and authoritarian brainwashing by government indoctrination camps we call "public education", will turn to the State pleading "something has to be done!" which of course the State will expand it's reach, size, and power like never before, similar to how the Fed is seeking greater expansion, essentially to nationalize the financially industry via the excuse of the recent $9/11 "credit crisis" hoax. The subverted MSM will do it's best to whip people into a frenzy by scaring the shit out of them via establishment deflections such as I.O.U.S.A. This is the same thing that happened in the 30's when the Fed CAUSED the Great Depression that allowed FDR to usher in the raw deal called the "New Deal" - arguably the greatest expansion of the State ever seen.

That all said, setting up a counter-economy network of trading partners prior to the coming crash is ABSOLUTELY crucial. Most of us lack the means to produce all the goods we need. This is why we need to identify trading partners and establish relationships now. This is how we take individual responsibility for ourselves into our hands and not wait for the State to violently fuck us over.

Social Engineer has provided the first step to identify potential trading partners. I would like to see this also grow into a site where people can identify potential employers/employees who are willing to trade their services using whatever money that is sound (i.e. probably gold or silver coins - but people are free to trade in whatever commodity they wish of course).

Initially, I foresee most people working part time in this counter economy (it actually has a name - "agorism (http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/2961/41106.aspx#41106)"), as we cannot work full time in it, due to the requirement of paying taxes in Federal Reserve Points, or we would need to purchase something in the red market that is not available from participants on SC's site...yet. You need gas? You would still have to get that from a red market participant...until an independent stepped into SC's website and was willing to trade sound money (i.e. not Federal Reserve Points). In the red market, if I hire you, I am required to report the transaction to the IRS. When you are paid, you are required to pay your taxes to the IRS. You literally need Federal Reserve permission points to work!

By participating in what SC has set up, we get to protect the fruits of our labor from theft via taxation and inflation - provided we make the transition to sound money. Even if the State doesn't collapse during our working lifetime, we still profit from our activity. I think this is the only mechanism that stands a non-zero chance of success. For those of you who have read "Atlas Shrugged", it is a virtual Galt's Gulch, but you get to hide in plain sight!

Even if the State catches on and writes up some arbitrary rules to shut SC's site down, by then we would have established the network of trading partners - on pen and paper. New sites would spring up. Perhaps a P2P application will be built that facilitates trade with each other instead of files. The nice thing about P2P is that it is not centralized and would be difficult for the State to violently shut it down. It would be a "killer app".

Perhaps this site could be used where actors in the market rank the participant's trustworthiness. A State mole might be able to set up shop, but would not get far in the network.

I don't want to speak for you SC or hijack your idea to somewhere you didn't intend the purpose to go, but I thought I would highlight some possibilities to participants or lurkers in this thread.

Thoughts?

[sevin]

The government won't allow a tax revolution. They're too powerful. They'll just start locking people away in the 800 empty FEMA camps they have ready. :( I'm serious.

[powerofreason]

Ironically, people will read this and then go make a thread about how we need to elect so-and-so. We're out of time.

[slacker921]

and.. . you should also read what Celente said back in January (http://pacificfreepress.com/news/1/2236-the-bright-side-of-the-panic-of-08.html)..

[ihsv]

and.. . you should also read what Celente said back in January (http://pacificfreepress.com/news/1/2236-the-bright-side-of-the-panic-of-08.html)..

Very interesting. Thanks for this... I think :)

[PatriotOne]

and.. . you should also read what Celente said back in January (http://pacificfreepress.com/news/1/2236-the-bright-side-of-the-panic-of-08.html)..

I guess we can all throw away our sunglasses. Our future isn't so bright we don't have to wear shades :cool:

[qh4dotcom]

I don't think even the credibility of this guy and the warning of these events will wake up the Obama sheeple. I wouldn't be surprised that in the chaos of 2012 they will still be praising their Messiah.

[Anti Federalist]

ironically, people will read this and then go make a thread about how we need to elect so-and-so. we're out of time.

+1776

[RSLudlum]

http://www.trendsresearch.com/

;)

[gilliganscorner]

The government won't allow a tax revolution. They're too powerful. They'll just start locking people away in the 800 empty FEMA camps they have ready. :( I'm serious.

Stop looking to the government to allow or disallow anything. That is a self-defeating paradigm. Don't look for leaders to say it is OK or not. I am going to say something people react to with startlement, but think about it for a bit:

"You have to kill the cop in your head."

Note that I do NOT say that gives you license to hurt the innocent. I have nothing against the police. But I certainly do NOT advocate killing them. However, it is paralyzing you from protecting yourself. Jean-Francois Revel nailed it:


'The totalitarian phenomenon is not to be understood without making allowance for the thesis that some important part of every society consists of people who actively want tyranny: either to exercise it themselves or -- much more mysteriously -- to submit to it.'

Talk you people you trust. There are small shops that WILL take gold or silver coin for payment. Offer whatever off the books services you can in return for gold and silver. Ask the very same people you pay with sound money if you can do work for them that needs doing.

You are building a counter-economy. It isn't all that hard. All you need is 4-5 trustworthy trading partners to start. You can't work full time in the network because you need Federal Reserve Points to pay taxes or obtain goods and services that are not offered in your agorist market yet, but as the economy slides into the abyss, more will want to participate. Even America soldiers deployed into the streets will be paid in Federal Reserve points under massive inflation - devaluing their savings and making it more difficult to put food on their tables. How long will they put up with that nonsense or come to their senses, saying, "I never signed up to kill my fellow Countrymen."

Once the State collapses, your network will survive. Then you must be careful not to let a State form again. If men are good, we don't need the State. If men are bad or apathetic, we don't dare form one.

[wizardwatson]

and.. . you should also read what Celente said back in January (http://pacificfreepress.com/news/1/2236-the-bright-side-of-the-panic-of-08.html)..

wow...

What's really scary is their putting this stuff all over news and radio as if to prepare us. Or maybe nudge us a little in that direction? Who knows. The world is upside down.

[bander87]

Posted yet?

http://www.infowars.com/?p=5938

[Bruno]

yep

[sevin]

Stop looking to the government to allow or disallow anything. That is a self-defeating paradigm. Don't look for leaders to say it is OK or not. I am going to say something people react to with startlement, but think about it for a bit:

"You have to kill the cop in your head."

...

Talk you people you trust. There are small shops that WILL take gold or silver coin for payment. Offer whatever off the books services you can in return for gold and silver. Ask the very same people you pay with sound money if you can do work for them that needs doing.

You are building a counter-economy. It isn't all that hard. All you need is 4-5 trustworthy trading partners to start. You can't work full time in the network because you need Federal Reserve Points to pay taxes or obtain goods and services that are not offered in your agorist market yet, but as the economy slides into the abyss, more will want to participate. Even America soldiers deployed into the streets will be paid in Federal Reserve points under massive inflation - devaluing their savings and making it more difficult to put food on their tables. How long will they put up with that nonsense or come to their senses, saying, "I never signed up to kill my fellow Countrymen."

Once the State collapses, your network will survive. Then you must be careful not to let a State form again. If men are good, we don't need the State. If men are bad or apathetic, we don't dare form one.

That's good advice. Thanks.

[heavenlyboy34]

:eek: I don't think that there is any comprehensive book that will tell us how to prepare. In fact, I don't think you can comprehensively prepare for it.
We should start a link compilation to info that we can download for later. There is already some good links in the Freedom Living section where you will also find book suggestions for a lot of topics.
Get the basics covered: water - stored and a way to replenish,food and some type of food production, shelter, means to defend it. Then think backup plan should you need to relocate.
Anything after that is gravy. I like gravy.


BTW...if you all store water, make sure to use glass bottles, not plastic. (except for the extremely hard type). The common plastics tend to leech into the water. :(

[A. Havnes]

Amazing article! I still say we should stop this government before these desperate times hit us.

[bander87]

Where's the original post at?

[gb13]

Gold and silver are a must if you indend to be able to buy anything. It's only a matter of time before the inflationary shtf.

[ArchPaul]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ad_1226630673


Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012...Trend forecaster, renowned for being accurate in the past, says
The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting fut More..ure world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.

Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

"We're going to see the end of the retail Christmas....we're going to see a fundamental shift take place....putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree," said Celente, adding that the situation would be "worse than the great depression".

"America's going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for," said Celente, noting that people's refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.

Celente, who successfully predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar, told UPI in November last year that the following year would be known as "The Panic of 2008," adding that "giants (would) tumble to their deaths," which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and others. He also said that the dollar would eventually be devalued by as much as 90 per cent.

The consequence of what we have seen unfold this year would lead to a lowering in living standards, Celente predicted a year ago, which is also being borne out by plummeting retail sales figures.

The prospect of revolution was a concept echoed by a British Ministry of Defence report last year, which predicted that within 30 years, the growing gap between the super rich and the middle class, along with an urban underclass threatening social order would mean, "The world's middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest," and that, "The middle classes could become a revolutionary class."

In a separate recent interview, Celente went further on the subject of revolution in America.

"There will be a revolution in this country," he said. "It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen."

"The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That’s going to be the big one because people can’t afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You’re going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop."

"It’s going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and we’re going to see many more."

"We’re going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. It’s going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. It’s going to come as a shock and with it, there’s going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, people’s minds weren’t wrecked on all these modern drugs – over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass of very desperate people with their minds chemically blown beyond anybody’s comprehension."

"When CNN wants to know about the Top Trends, we ask Gerald Celente."
— CNN Headline News

"A network of 25 experts whose range of specialties would rival many university faculties."
— The Economist

"Gerald Celente has a knack for getting the zeitgeist right."
— USA Today

"There’s not a better trend forecaster than Gerald Celente. The man knows what he’s talking about."
- CNBC

"Those who take their predictions seriously ... consider the Trends Research Institute."
— The Wall Street Journal

"Gerald Celente is always ahead of the curve on trends and uncannily on the mark ... he's one of the most accurate forecasters around."
— The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

"Mr. Celente tracks the world’s social, economic and business trends for corporate clients."
— The New York Times

"Mr. Celente is a very intelligent guy. We are able to learn about trends from an authority."
— 48 Hours, CBS News

"Gerald Celente has a solid track record. He has predicted everything from the 1987 stock market crash and the demise of the Soviet Union to green marketing and corporate downsizing."
— The Detroit News

"Gerald Celente forecast the 1987 stock market crash, ‘green marketing,’ and the boom in gourmet coffees."
— Chicago Tribune

"The Trends Research Institute is the Standard and Poors of Popular Culture."
— The Los Angeles Times

"If Nostradamus were alive today, he'd have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente."
— New York Post

So there you have it - hardly a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard now is he? The price of not heeding his warnings will be far greater than the cost of preparing for the future now. Storable food and gold are two good places to make a start.

[Michigan11]

Excellent post! 4 years is stretching it. I'm noticing things locally becoming very quiet lately, along with most people talking about what to do.

Most are now aware of the writing on the wall. I feel it now too. I actually think it's coming much sooner than we all expect. Be ready.

[Dr.3D]

Here is the youtube video of Celente talking about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg

[ArchPaul]

Thx, I'm not the author, but I posted the source link at the top. I
thought it was valid, and important.
I can't for sure say when, but I also feel there will a huge shift.
Like I told my mom, when people (boomers) start to see there benefits
vaporize, their children starving, and all cause greed. It will be
a mess. :(

[Dr.3D]

Excellent post! 4 years is stretching it. I'm noticing things locally becoming very quiet lately, along with most people talking about what to do.

Most are now aware of the writing on the wall. I feel it now too. I actually think it's coming much sooner than we all expect. Be ready.

For sure.... I see it more like coming down the pike in around 7 months or so.

[Original_Intent]

Excellent post! 4 years is stretching it. I'm noticing things locally becoming very quiet lately, along with most people talking about what to do.

Most are now aware of the writing on the wall. I feel it now too. I actually think it's coming much sooner than we all expect. Be ready.

It's basically a dry tinder situation, I feel. A spark will set of devastating changes.

Sadly, I think food riots, etc will be welcomed by the elites as we will spend our energy fighting each other. If people actually joined forces to overthrow the gatekeepers and the overseers, I would welcome it. But I expect as it is a lot of good people will get hurt or killed and nothing positive will come of it.

I have been accused of being a pessimist. ;)

[Michigan11]

For sure.... I see it more like coming down the pike in around 7 months or so.

That could be an accurate timeline. Something is brewing.

[Cowlesy]

Well that would suck....

[ArchPaul]

It's basically a dry tinder situation, I feel. A spark will set of devastating changes.

Sadly, I think food riots, etc will be welcomed by the elites as we will spend our energy fighting each other. If people actually joined forces to overthrow the gatekeepers and the overseers, I would welcome it. But I expect as it is a lot of good people will get hurt or killed and nothing positive will come of it.

I have been accused of being a pessimist. ;)

But the elites do not like change. If they did we wouldn't have the same ole knuckle heads in washington... And it will cut into thier bottom line. If money is power, and nobody is making money, then where is the power? They would have to hide out...

[Dorfsmith]

I am a big fan of Celente. I think he's going to be proven right again.

[tmosley]

It's basically a dry tinder situation, I feel. A spark will set of devastating changes.

Sadly, I think food riots, etc will be welcomed by the elites as we will spend our energy fighting each other. If people actually joined forces to overthrow the gatekeepers and the overseers, I would welcome it. But I expect as it is a lot of good people will get hurt or killed and nothing positive will come of it.

I have been accused of being a pessimist. ;)

Be ready, and you can lead a mob and storm their homes and offices.

Anyone have a list of home addresses of the Fed's board of directors?

[AmericasLastHope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg

[LittleLightShining]

I saw him at the Vermont Independence Convention last week. What an insightful and amazing speaker he is.

[heavenlyboy34]

This was on Faux TV. Methinks TPTB are just trying to stir up trouble among the masses. :mad:

[cindy25]

food riots? I doubt it. even during the great depression there were none.

but I could see anti-black, anti-Jewish riots if they try to impose a draft.

tax revolt? in some ways yes-school budgets being voted down etc but if people have no jobs they pay no income taxes.

[A. Havnes]

We're filling our house with food, mostly canned stuff, in case something like this happens. We're also stocking up on vegetables to feed our animals in case we can no longer buy dog and cat food. Luckily, we still have enough alfalfa to feed our goat for at least a year.

[cindy25]

I don't a food shortage, but a shortage of money to buy food.

more important than a food stockpile is a generator and/or inverter

[tmosley]

I don't a food shortage, but a shortage of money to buy food.

more important than a food stockpile is a generator and/or inverter

Not so. When there is no money flow, the store shelves empty FAST.

[Dianne]

Some sobering thoughts to awaken too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg

http://patdollard.com/2008/11/i-am-a-student-of-history/

[ArchPaul]

Not so. When there is no money flow, the store shelves empty FAST.


Exactly. Keep in mind, a lot of farms are/or like big corporations now, in that they
operate on debt/credit. So when the banks won't lend to them or can't lend to them
they can't farm. No farm no food, no food... a mass of angry mobs trying to survive.

The Great Depression had a much smaller population, now we have baby boomers and illegals, with younger generations thrown in the mix. Also, I may be mistaken, but I don't think we were as well armed then as we are now :confused:
No there wasn't food riots to speak of, or maybe too small to mention. But our
society has fundamentally changed... We didn't have people shooting up half a dozen co-workers once a month either...

It maybe alarmist. But like my mom has always said. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. ;)

[tggroo7]

Is that piece written by Celente?? Who is TPS? And I really wish he would put links in his article or at the very least go into a detail about some of the things he brings up. Like:
"We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?" - how so? Come on, either give some sort of detail or don't mention it at all.

"(Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course." - Yeah, that would be something where a link to more information would be greatly appreciated.

"In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again." - He doesn't back up ANY of this.

"(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)...Read your history books." - Nice. The complete opposite of a decent informative piece, basically saying, "No, I'm not citing sources, go do it yourself."

Is this actually the article by Celente because if it is, he lost a lot of his credibilty in my mind. Comparing Obama to Hitler merely by how they appear is a pretty reckless way to form a conclusion about a correlation. People don't form valid correlations just based on how two things appear on the surface, it's the underlying details you need to compare. I highly doubt Obama is going to round up Americans (much less millions of them) and throw them into labor and torture camps.

[MsDoodahs]

1920 census shows 30 percent of the US population were farmers.

Today, 1 -2 percent of the US population are farmers.

Just sayin....

[John of Des Moines]

Exactly. Keep in mind, a lot of farms are/or like big corporations now, in that they
operate on debt/credit. So when the banks won't lend to them or can't lend to them
they can't farm. No farm no food, no food... a mass of angry mobs trying to survive.

The Great Depression had a much smaller population, now we have baby boomers and illegals, with younger generations thrown in the mix. Also, I may be mistaken, but I don't think we were as well armed then as we are now :confused:
No there wasn't food riots to speak of, or maybe too small to mention. But our
society has fundamentally changed... We didn't have people shooting up half a dozen co-workers once a month either...

It maybe alarmist. But like my mom has always said. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. ;)

And on top of this during the Great Depression 85 to 90% of the people lived on farms or rural areas where food could be grown easily. Now 90% in cities. Good luck shopping right after one family of four decided to stock up for one year. (At your local supermarket including Waly World supermarkets but not including the Sam's, BJ's, Costco's of the world.) There'd be no flour, sugar, honey, dried milk, or rice and the soup and cereal aisles would look hurt. If they where stocking up for a grid up situation they the meat case would be hit well too. Now think what would happen if only 1% of the store's shoppers decided they wanted to stock up as well.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Is that piece written by Celente?? Who is TPS? And I really wish he would put links in his article or at the very least go into a detail about some of the things he brings up. Like:
"We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?" - how so? Come on, either give some sort of detail or don't mention it at all.

"(Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course." - Yeah, that would be something where a link to more information would be greatly appreciated.

"In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again." - He doesn't back up ANY of this.

"(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)...Read your history books." - Nice. The complete opposite of a decent informative piece, basically saying, "No, I'm not citing sources, go do it yourself."

Is this actually the article by Celente because if it is, he lost a lot of his credibilty in my mind. Comparing Obama to Hitler merely by how they appear is a pretty reckless way to form a conclusion about a correlation. People don't form valid correlations just based on how two things appear on the surface, it's the underlying details you need to compare. I highly doubt Obama is going to round up Americans (much less millions of them) and throw them into labor and torture camps.

No, that's not Celente. I have no idea who TPS is.

Actual interviews with Celente:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1485&category=Environment

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg&eurl=http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

[Cowlesy]

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[slacker921]

also.. go read "Reinventing Collapse" by Dmitry Orlov the short version of it is here (http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259) if you want to get an idea of what he's getting at.

I think Celente exaggerates or misjudges what the American public will do. In his earlier predictions he assumed the public would react to economic collapse as if they were in Central America or something (riots, people grabbing the children of the wealthy for ransom, etc). He underestimates how totally apathetic the American public is and how much programming they will accept from the media. If the media says another stimulus will fix our problems then by golly we'll get another stimulus package and the public will be happy and run out to the mall.

Orlov also exaggerates how bad things will get (putting mobile homes on the Interstates??) but BOTH have some very interesting observations that need to be paid attention to. Orlov's book has some good common sense advice on what will work if things really do collapse. He watched what happened in Russia.. he's seen it before.

[ShowMeLiberty]

also.. go read "Reinventing Collapse" by Dmitry Orlov the short version of it is here (http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259) if you want to get an idea of what he's getting at.

I think Celente exaggerates or misjudges what the American public will do. In his earlier predictions he assumed the public would react to economic collapse as if they were in Central America or something (riots, people grabbing the children of the wealthy for ransom, etc). He underestimates how totally apathetic the American public is and how much programming they will accept from the media. If the media says another stimulus will fix our problems then by golly we'll get another stimulus package and the public will be happy and run out to the mall.

Orlov also exaggerates how bad things will get (putting mobile homes on the Interstates??) but BOTH have some very interesting observations that need to be paid attention to. Orlov's book has some good common sense advice on what will work if things really do collapse. He watched what happened in Russia.. he's seen it before.

Anytime I start to think that Celente or someone else is exaggerating how Americans would react to real crisis, I just stop and remember Hurricane Katrina. "Civilization" to chaos in about three days.

It's a good way to "pinch" myself whenever I start feeling lazy about preparing for whatever may come.

[sevin]

There's one thing that bothers me about this. In general, I tend to distrust the MSM and always assume there's an ulterior motive. Why would they allow someone like Celente to come out and say this? Don't they normally try to hide the truth? What's their motive?

[stilltrying]

Stop looking to the government to allow or disallow anything. That is a self-defeating paradigm. Don't look for leaders to say it is OK or not. I am going to say something people react to with startlement, but think about it for a bit:

"You have to kill the cop in your head."

Note that I do NOT say that gives you license to hurt the innocent. I have nothing against the police. But I certainly do NOT advocate killing them. However, it is paralyzing you from protecting yourself. Jean-Francois Revel nailed it:



Talk you people you trust. There are small shops that WILL take gold or silver coin for payment. Offer whatever off the books services you can in return for gold and silver. Ask the very same people you pay with sound money if you can do work for them that needs doing.

You are building a counter-economy. It isn't all that hard. All you need is 4-5 trustworthy trading partners to start. You can't work full time in the network because you need Federal Reserve Points to pay taxes or obtain goods and services that are not offered in your agorist market yet, but as the economy slides into the abyss, more will want to participate. Even America soldiers deployed into the streets will be paid in Federal Reserve points under massive inflation - devaluing their savings and making it more difficult to put food on their tables. How long will they put up with that nonsense or come to their senses, saying, "I never signed up to kill my fellow Countrymen."

Once the State collapses, your network will survive. Then you must be careful not to let a State form again. If men are good, we don't need the State. If men are bad or apathetic, we don't dare form one.


You are right on. A lot of people on this forum say the govt wont allow it or anything else as if they have already succumbed to the government, they are thinking like slaves. They have already been brainwashed to say things like that. You nailed it on the head "kill the cop in your head". I hope that more people can see and understand exactly what you stated in your first paragraph.

[Bill M DC]

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/nov/24/nostradamus-redux/


DE BORCHGRAVE: Nostradamus redux
Arnaud de Borchgrave
Monday, November 24, 2008
COMMENTARY:
SINGAPORE.

Although political forecasting and economic prognostication have long made astrology look respectable, there is still a latter-day Nostradamus who has defied the odds. "If Nostradamus were alive today," said the New York Post, "he'd have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente" - the man who tracks the world's social, economic, and business trends for corporate clients.

Mr. Celente's accurate forecasts include the 1987 stock market crash, the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the 1997 Asian currency crash, the 2007 subprime mortgage scandal that he said would soon engulf the world at a time when Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, a macroeconomist and expert on the Great Depression, told us, "the worst is behind us." In November 2007, Mr. Celente also told UPI a massive devaluation of the dollar was coming and that some Wall Street giants were headed for total collapse. He called it "The Panic of 2008."

"Worse than the Great Depression," Mr. Celente opined. Beginning with a sharp drop in standards of living, and continuing with an angry urban underclass that threatens a social order that allowed the mega-rich to continue living behind gated communities with summer escapades to luxurious homes on the French and Italian Rivieras or to bigger and better and more expensive boats from year to year.

This time, Mr. Celente's Trends Research Institute, which the Los Angeles Times described as the Standard & Poor's of pop culture, can see a tax rebellion in America by 2012, food riots, squatter rebellions, job marches and a culture that puts a higher premium on food on the table than gifts under the Christmas tree.

Mr. Celente says, "There will be a revolution in this country," though not until 2012, and it will take the form of a bloodless coup and the meteoric rise of a third party. While all this sounds like claptrap to sophisticated observers inside the Beltway, one can't ignore the high marks his forecasting gets from such prestigious global publications as the Economist: "A network of 25 experts whose range of specialties would rival many university faculties."

The George Washington blog listed all the kudos Celeste Celente received from a wide variety of newspapers, magazines and television shows. He has a solid track record. The catastrophe that is about to hit our nation, he says, has its origin in wars we were told would be "off budget" and would not affect more tax cuts. This is the school that says there's nothing wrong with a little deficit funding.

One of the cornerstones of America 's giant economy is the ability to borrow from other countries - primarily China and Japan - from $2 billion to $3 billion a day in order to maintain the world's highest standard living, which is based on conspicuous consumption, at a time of growing world shortages. That was bound to change. But Mr. Celente does not believe we can switch to a thrifty society without a gigantic upheaval from which a new paradigm will emerge.

On a global scale, scarce resources, including energy and water, will, at the very least touch off regional resource conflicts. Mr. Celente is not that far removed from what the 100,000-strong, 16-agency Intelligence community has been doing with its almost $50 billion Intel budget. A report released by the National Intelligence Council (NIC) this week, titled "Global Trends 2025," points to global mayhem, but not as soon as 2012, or in three years time, as Mr. Celente predicts.

The Mideast and nuclear proliferation, says NIC's report, will continue to be the CIA's principal concern inside the "great arc of instability stretching from sub-Sahara Africa through North Africa and the Middle East, the Balkans, the Caucasus, South and Central Asia and parts of Southeast Asia."

NIC's most immediate alarm is "The Prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran spawning a nuclear arms race in the greater Middle East will bring new security challenges to an already conflict-prone region, particularly in conjunction with the proliferation of long-range missile systems."

By 2025, NIC also says the United States will have to face the prospect of a relative decline of its economic and military power. In the interim, new superpowers will have emerged in China and India . And China is "poised to have more impact on the world over the next 20 years than any other country."

Iraq , following a U.S. withdrawal at the end of 2011, will have to face many conflicting tribal and ethnic groups that could easily explode and spill over into neighboring states. The perennial Mideast conflict over the creation of a state for Palestinians will certainly not be settled by the time President Bush leaves office. And it will retain its lethal potential for sudden eruptions of violence and wider conflict.

ehind the scenes, Palestinians mutter darkly about a "one-state solution displacing the two-state approach." The secret Palestinian weapon is quite simply demographics. Since creation of the state of Israel in 1947, Arabs have gone from 87 million to 310 million. They expect to be half a billion by 2025.

Assuming President Obama can revive the long-playing peace process and come up with a new road map to peace, it will be a nonstarter if it doesn't include Arab East Jerusalem as the site of the Palestinian capital. For Israel , Jerusalem is a red line, a capital that cannot be shared.


Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large for The Washington Times and for United Press International.