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qh4dotcom
11-10-2008, 03:49 PM
His latest Texas Straight Talk newsletter



With the election behind us, our country turns hopeful eyes to the future. I have a few hopes of my own.

I congratulate our first African-American president-elect. Martin Luther King, Jr. certainly would be proud to see this day. We are stronger for embracing diversity, and I am hopeful that we can continue working through the tensions and wrongs of the past and become a more just and colorblind society. I hope this new administration will help bring us together, and not further divide us. I have always found that freedom is the best way to break down barriers. A free society emphasizes the importance of individuals, and not because they are part of a certain group. That’s the only way equal justice can be achieved.

We will face more tough economic problems during this new administration. In fact, the worst is yet to come. A vast amount of problematic mortgages have not begun to reset their variable interest rates and go into default. We already have unprecedented deficits, spending is out of control, and more big industries are coming to government with their hands out. My hope is that this administration will handle this economic crisis better than the interventionists and big government spenders of the 1930’s, the bureaucrats that prolonged the Depression. I hope that new government programs and spiderwebs of red tape do not pop up to interfere with American productivity, and that we can quickly get our financial footing again. We have to understand that an economic correction needs to take place and the only way out of the coming recession is to go through it. Efforts to avoid it can only prolong it. I hope we can somehow find our way back to sound money and reject corporate cronyism.

We cannot address our budget problems at home without changing our disastrous foreign policy abroad. I am hopeful that the new administration can take on the mantle of peace and diplomacy in foreign policy that many Americans feel they were promised. Many other nations also have this hope, which exudes from their congratulatory sentiments offered after the election. They hope that national sovereignty will be respected. They hope that through diplomacy violence and war can be averted. I hope so too. One thing is unquestionable: our aggressive foreign policy of the past has been costly, in blood and in treasure. Our treasure is running out, and fewer volunteers are stepping up to enable that foreign policy. So for these reasons, if we are to continue to have an all-volunteer military, and see prosperity again in the future, I have every reason to hope our foreign policy will change. In order for it to remain the same, mandatory military service would have to return, as well as accelerated theft through debt and inflation to pay for it. I have a hard time imagining popular support for these policies, simply for the sake of war and conquest, when we clearly want peace.

I have many hopes for the future in this time of transition. But I have seen this country face many forks in the road, and sadly take the wrong one too many times. We have heard a lot of talk, and it remains to be seen what actions and specific policies that talk will translate into. So while I may be hopeful, I remain deeply concerned about our future.

Your thoughts?

AbolishTheGovt
11-10-2008, 03:52 PM
Hope is all we have left. =\

Pepsi
11-10-2008, 03:52 PM
He is right about the draft. We should let Congress know now we don't want it to return.

wizardwatson
11-10-2008, 03:57 PM
My thought is that if Paul is hoping, he is hoping against his own better judgement. As evident in the last sentence.

RickyJ
11-10-2008, 04:35 PM
I congratulate our first African-American president-elect. Martin Luther King, Jr. certainly would be proud to see this day. We are stronger for embracing diversity, and I am hopeful that we can continue working through the tensions and wrongs of the past and become a more just and colorblind society.

Who kidnapped Ron Paul and is writing this stuff?

Ron Paul knows we are not stronger for embracing diversity, we are only stronger by embracing the truth. And Martin Luther King Jr. would not be proud to see this day. King was not a racist, did not attend a racist church, and truly believed in equality for all in America, not racism toward whites.

fr33domfightr
11-10-2008, 04:35 PM
I think he believes that Obama wants to try dealing with other nations differently than Bush has. He's hopeful, but skeptical.


FF

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
11-10-2008, 04:39 PM
He is right about the draft. We should let Congress know now we don't want it to return.

We let Congress know that we did not want the bailout either but they did it anyway. These people do not give a crap what we want or what we say. They are going to do exactly what they and the lobbyist want them to do and the hell with us.

AJ Antimony
11-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Hope is just hope and there is nothing wrong with it. We can hate Obama after he starts implementing his crap policies. Until then, the most positive thing to do is hope he will actually be different than Bush. Of course I'd bet a lot against it, but stranger things have happened.

Knightskye
11-10-2008, 04:45 PM
I congratulate our first African-American president-elect. Martin Luther King, Jr. certainly would be proud to see this day. We are stronger for embracing diversity, and I am hopeful that we can continue working through the tensions and wrongs of the past and become a more just and colorblind society. I hope this new administration will help bring us together, and not further divide us. I have always found that freedom is the best way to break down barriers. A free society emphasizes the importance of individuals, and not because they are part of a certain group. That’s the only way equal justice can be achieved.

I agree with Dr. Paul.

gls
11-10-2008, 04:47 PM
Who kidnapped Ron Paul and is writing this stuff?

Ron Paul knows we are not stronger for embracing diversity, we are only stronger by embracing the truth. And Martin Luther King Jr. would not be proud to see this day. King was not a racist, did not attend a racist church, and truly believed in equality for all in America, not racism toward whites.

+1

I doubt he wrote the rest of it, either. He certainly doesn't take anything resembling an optimistic tone in any of the recent interviews I've heard.

vodalian
11-10-2008, 05:06 PM
Which ghost writer wrote this one? ;)

Join The Paul Side
11-10-2008, 05:17 PM
My thought is that if Paul is hoping, he is hoping against his own better judgement. As evident in the last sentence.


Care to clarify what you mean by that? Otherwise by first glance I think it's a crap thing for you to say about Dr. Paul.

You deserve a Bunchie for that. And I don't even like him but here you go.....

:bunchies:

torchbearer
11-10-2008, 05:31 PM
He didn't sound hopeful about Obama on Cavuto today... Compared him to FDR and prolonging the depression.

ItsTime
11-10-2008, 05:43 PM
He didn't sound hopeful about Obama on Cavuto today... Compared him to FDR and prolonging the depression.

We have a new new deal coming and they need a depression to sell it. :(

Sandra
11-10-2008, 06:32 PM
I agree with Dr. Paul.


+1

Let the man take office and get something done, then I'll mouth off.

gls
11-10-2008, 06:35 PM
+1

Let the man take office and get something done, then I'll mouth off.

I don't get this. His many anti-freedom votes/statements aren't enough for you?

Anti Federalist
11-10-2008, 06:39 PM
Political pabulum that could never be held against him years from now.

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies.

:rolleyes::D

BlackTerrel
11-10-2008, 06:49 PM
Who kidnapped Ron Paul and is writing this stuff?

Ron Paul knows we are not stronger for embracing diversity, we are only stronger by embracing the truth. And Martin Luther King Jr. would not be proud to see this day. King was not a racist, did not attend a racist church, and truly believed in equality for all in America, not racism toward whites.

Who's talking about racism towards whites? And of course we are stronger for embracing diversity... well said Dr. Paul.

tonesforjonesbones
11-10-2008, 06:49 PM
I wonder if Ron Paul writes any of his stuff. Since that came out about the Manifesto, i am skeptical. It is unbelieveable to me that Ron Paul hasn't said more about the communist leanings of Obama. smh. tones

dannno
11-10-2008, 06:54 PM
He didn't sound hopeful about Obama on Cavuto today... Compared him to FDR and prolonging the depression.

The title is meant to get Obama supporters to read it.

dannno
11-10-2008, 06:54 PM
It is unbelieveable to me that Ron Paul hasn't said more about the communist leanings of Obama. smh. tones

He's too busy talking about the communist leanings of McCain.

amonasro
11-10-2008, 06:55 PM
I wonder if Ron Paul writes any of his stuff. Since that came out about the Manifesto, i am skeptical. It is unbelieveable to me that Ron Paul hasn't said more about the communist leanings of Obama. smh. tones

How long do you think his political career would last if he did?

HOLLYWOOD
11-10-2008, 07:44 PM
since Ron Paul is on TV and Radio, just about every other day... can someone get RP a TV-Video Studio and broadband Sat link to his home so there's a professional digital video/audio feed to comm to the world!

makes sense, with all his coverage and the visibility would be great and help get the message out!

tonesforjonesbones
11-10-2008, 07:46 PM
He sure didn't mind going up against the neo cons did he? What's the difference? he can speak out against the neo cons but not communists? What the hell? tones

SnappleLlama
11-10-2008, 08:07 PM
Who kidnapped Ron Paul and is writing this stuff?

Ron Paul knows we are not stronger for embracing diversity, we are only stronger by embracing the truth. And Martin Luther King Jr. would not be proud to see this day. King was not a racist, did not attend a racist church, and truly believed in equality for all in America, not racism toward whites.

I agree. This letter sounded odd when I read it. :confused:

pacelli
11-10-2008, 08:20 PM
Who kidnapped Ron Paul and is writing this stuff?


His ghostwriter on A Revolution: The Manifesto, Tom Woods perhaps?

Conza88
11-10-2008, 08:27 PM
I buried this on digg.
F-ck lies. Hope in Obama? FALSE HOPE.

I'm hopeful for the LIBERTY movement, not some retarded administration that will be the end of us all.

tonesforjonesbones
11-10-2008, 08:33 PM
DOPE for Obama. tones

lasenorita
11-10-2008, 09:58 PM
...prepare for the worst.

Minuteman2008
11-11-2008, 02:55 AM
The whole "embracing diversity" schtick seems to contradict ideas about individual liberty and striving to be a colorblind society. If you truly care about those things why would you care about diversity one way or the other? More PC nonsense in my opinion.

Kludge
11-11-2008, 03:11 AM
Ron Paul knows we are not stronger for embracing diversity, we are only stronger by embracing the truth. And Martin Luther King Jr. would not be proud to see this day. King was not a racist, did not attend a racist church, and truly believed in equality for all in America, not racism toward whites.

His "colorblind" comment was peculiar, but otherwise, I agree with Dr. Paul. Embracing diversity moves us forward as a society as it lessens racial tension, allowing us to focus on issues instead of who played the "race card" when or "racial undertones" in Clinton's latest speech.

When Paul says MLK, jr. would be proud, he'd be proud that enough white folks would vote for Obama to offset the lesser number of racial minority voters voting Obama. MLK would be proud that whites accepted a different race (if even only partially) as their representative, focusing on issues (or, at least, personality). While racism within the white community has been ridiculed and talked of in the news every hour, racism among the black community needs to be addressed as well. IMO, it's time to disband racially divisive organizations such as the NAACP, eliminate affirmative action, and eliminate grants giving only to people of a specific race.

It's very important to point out that racial minorities STILL tend to be indigent, imprisoned, and uneducated moreso than their white counterparts. This is perhaps why many would want a socialist government which spends excessive money at home instead of abroad (this is a particular issue as Obama is portrayed as a Dove, and McCain as a batshit crazy hawk hellbent on taking all terrorists to hell with him).

IMO, King would be proud but very wary of where this is heading.

tonesforjonesbones
11-11-2008, 03:34 AM
They are imprisioned by the democrat social programs. Ever been on welfare"? You can't do ANYTHING. I was in that system a very short time after I got out of the Army , had two younguns alone and was trying to go to school. After about 9 months of it, I had to get out of there. Talk about being a slave, THAT is being a slave. Tones

constituent
11-11-2008, 04:06 AM
i think if he plays his cards right in this regard, then he will soon find himself the most powerful man in congress.

ClayTrainor
11-11-2008, 04:37 AM
They are imprisioned by the democrat social programs. Ever been on welfare"? You can't do ANYTHING. I was in that system a very short time after I got out of the Army , had two younguns alone and was trying to go to school. After about 9 months of it, I had to get out of there. Talk about being a slave, THAT is being a slave. Tones

Well said!

nodope0695
11-11-2008, 04:50 AM
I have always found that freedom is the best way to break down barriers. A free society emphasizes the importance of individuals, and not because they are part of a certain group. That’s the only way equal justice can be achieved.


Very true, and exactly what he's said for years.


We cannot address our budget problems at home without changing our disastrous foreign policy abroad. I am hopeful that the new administration can take on the mantle of peace and diplomacy in foreign policy that many Americans feel they were promised. Many other nations also have this hope, which exudes from their congratulatory sentiments offered after the election. They hope that national sovereignty will be respected. They hope that through diplomacy violence and war can be averted. I hope so too.

Sadly, I don't think this will be the case under an Obama administration. He'll fall in line wiht the ruling elite just as Dubya and Clinton did.


In order for it to remain the same, mandatory military service would have to return, as well as accelerated theft through debt and inflation to pay for it. I have a hard time imagining popular support for these policies, simply for the sake of war and conquest, when we clearly want peace.

As they did with the Bail Out Package, the government will ignore the concerns of the citizens, and do what they want regardless of any outcry in opposition. Don't forget, they "know what's good for us." <groan>


I have many hopes for the future in this time of transition. But I have seen this country face many forks in the road, and sadly take the wrong one too many times. We have heard a lot of talk, and it remains to be seen what actions and specific policies that talk will translate into. So while I may be hopeful, I remain deeply concerned about our future.

I share your cautious optimism, Dr. Paul.

nodope0695
11-11-2008, 04:53 AM
They are imprisioned by the democrat social programs. Ever been on welfare"? You can't do ANYTHING. I was in that system a very short time after I got out of the Army , had two younguns alone and was trying to go to school. After about 9 months of it, I had to get out of there. Talk about being a slave, THAT is being a slave. Tones

Me too, dude. I got out of the Navy for a year. After I got out I applied to recieve unemployment compensation. What a mistake that was. I stayed with it for a month, and decided it was far more trouble than it's worth. How anybody can continue to live as a ward of the state is beyond me. Weak minded, and lazy fools are the ones who work and live by the state's welfare program. Anybody who values hard work, and has any self respect would stay on it only as long as it took to get off of it.

Cinderella
11-11-2008, 08:42 AM
Dr. Paul knows we're in for a shit storm...

LEK
11-11-2008, 09:09 AM
How can we have hope in something that is fake and contrived?

I believe Ron Paul is being gracious and as non-alarming as possible.

The last paragraph sets the real tone for his article:

I have many hopes for the future in this time of transition. But I have seen this country face many forks in the road, and sadly take the wrong one too many times. We have heard a lot of talk, and it remains to be seen what actions and specific policies that talk will translate into. So while I may be hopeful, I remain deeply concerned about our future.

Mort
11-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Ron Paul does believe in the ideals of a color blind society. That's a big part of being libertarian. You see a person as an individual and not as a member of whichever group.

Of course, when the government tries to implement policies to help one group or another, it hinders in the long term. Just like bailouts hinder the free market in the long term.

Original_Intent
11-11-2008, 09:31 AM
His "colorblind" comment was peculiar, but otherwise, I agree with Dr. Paul. Embracing diversity moves us forward as a society as it lessens racial tension, allowing us to focus on issues instead of who played the "race card" when or "racial undertones" in Clinton's latest speech.

When Paul says MLK, jr. would be proud, he'd be proud that enough white folks would vote for Obama to offset the lesser number of racial minority voters voting Obama. MLK would be proud that whites accepted a different race (if even only partially) as their representative, focusing on issues (or, at least, personality). While racism within the white community has been ridiculed and talked of in the news every hour, racism among the black community needs to be addressed as well. IMO, it's time to disband racially divisive organizations such as the NAACP, eliminate affirmative action, and eliminate grants giving only to people of a specific race.

It's very important to point out that racial minorities STILL tend to be indigent, imprisoned, and uneducated moreso than their white counterparts. This is perhaps why many would want a socialist government which spends excessive money at home instead of abroad (this is a particular issue as Obama is portrayed as a Dove, and McCain as a batshit crazy hawk hellbent on taking all terrorists to hell with him).

IMO, King would be proud but very wary of where this is heading.

I don't know that he was embracing diversity with his comments. He reiterated waht he said during the campaign - people should be dealt with as individuals, not as members of any group.

acptulsa
11-11-2008, 09:39 AM
He did a masterful job of separating race from policy, and was obviously working to demonstrate that libertarianism isn't about pre-judging people. And we could all stand to learn from this excellent example.

Some audiences need a hard pitch and some audiences need a soft pitch. Dr. Paul can do both.

libertarian4321
11-11-2008, 02:41 PM
Who kidnapped Ron Paul and is writing this stuff?

Ron Paul knows we are not stronger for embracing diversity, we are only stronger by embracing the truth. And Martin Luther King Jr. would not be proud to see this day. King was not a racist, did not attend a racist church, and truly believed in equality for all in America, not racism toward whites.

This kind of drooling at the mouth blather is yet another reason Ron Paul supporters are so easily dismissed as "kooks."

I don't think most rational Americans think Obama, who is half-white and was raised by the white side of his family, is "racist toward whites."

RonPaulR3VOLUTION
11-11-2008, 06:00 PM
Ron Paul has stated repeatedly that he believes Obama is no different and is more of the same: status quo.

If he did write this, it was probably to attract Obama supporters, emphasize how Obama won't even be against more foreign policy interventionism, or something of that nature.

qh4dotcom
11-11-2008, 08:35 PM
Ron Paul has stated repeatedly that he believes Obama is no different and is more of the same: status quo.

If he did write this, it was probably to attract Obama supporters, emphasize how Obama won't even be against more foreign policy interventionism, or something of that nature.

Yep...I guess this is his first or one of his rare flip-flops.

Winning the lottery seems more likely than an Obama strict adherence to the Constitution.

RonPaulR3VOLUTION
11-12-2008, 10:59 AM
"That's why the candidate demanding 'change' won the election. It mattered not that the change offered was no change at all, only a change in the engineer of a runaway train." --Ron Paul, Nov. 11, 2008

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/11/paul.republican/index.html



http://digg.com/business_finance/Ron_Paul_Why_U_S_is_on_the_wrong_track