Do you people actually watch O'Reilly?

[Taxidriver2929]

I've been a pretty "harcore" libertarian and I might even call myself an anarcho-capitalist, so obviously I don't agree with any of his beleif's but, the O'Reilly hate is something I have followed for awhile and I think the only reason I like the guy is cause, it's so Rediculous.

O'Reilly really isn't a cheerleader like Hannity, Limbaugh and Coulter. I mean you should hear the things he says about coulter sometimes. I know alot of the people supporting Ron Paul are socialists who like his foreign policy and might be interested in libertarian Ideals and probably watch Olbermann, but I know all the controversy's like Malmandy, the san francisco thing and others and they are all bull.

You guys act like Media Matters would kiss Ron's ass. I mean look at John Stossel him and Ron Paul line up on everything politically and he is lied about, unfairly attacked, and is painted as some neo con like sean hannity.

Most of you just watch edited clips on youtube that are replayed over and over again and you think you know everthing about him and the show. It's rediculous. O'Reilly isn't even a neo con or does he claim to be the I mean he's pro gun control, he's against the death penalty, and he doesn't paint a perfect picture of Iraq.

I mean bring up a critism and I'll show you that it's bull. I mean the guy is arrogant and can be an ass but, the olbermann's and the other hacks like him are far worse and have said actual lies and done viscous personal attacks.

That said Monday is ganna be interesting. I guarantee it's not ganna be a shouting match and he won't cut his mic.

[huchahucha]

I watch O'Reilly all the time and I think he will give RP a fair shake. O'Reilly is not a Libertarian but he is a traditionalist, and you can't get much more traditional than Thomas Jefferson, with whom RP seems to align himself very well.

[Chernitsky]

No, FNC is deleted from every television in my house. I will only watch if Paul is supposed to be on, other than that - out of sight, out of mind. Their bias and slant is too much for me to consider real news.

[Chernitsky]

I watch O'Reilly all the time and I think he will give RP a fair shake. O'Reilly is not a Libertarian but he is a traditionalist, and you can't get much more traditional than Thomas Jefferson, with whom RP seems to align himself very well.

Are you seriously comparing Thomas Jefferson to Bill O'Reilly?

[blazin_it_alwyz]

I've been a pretty "harcore" libertarian and I might even call myself an anarcho-capitalist, so obviously I don't agree with any of his beleif's but, the O'Reilly hate is something I have followed for awhile and I think the only reason I like the guy is cause, it's so Rediculous.

*Ridiculous.


Most of you just watch edited clips on youtube that are replayed over and over again and you think you know everthing about him and the show. It's rediculous. O'Reilly isn't even a neo con or does he claim to be the I mean he's pro gun control, he's against the death penalty, and he doesn't paint a perfect picture of Iraq.

He has called people who go against bush Anti-American. He has also berated people who wanted Bush impeached, citing that he hasn't broken any laws, but in fact he has, it's called the Constitution. Also calling someone Un-American for wanting to pull out of Iraq, is nazi type of thinking.

Also, O'Reilly still hasn't apologized for all his comments before the war happened, berating everyone, saying that the war was going to be a piece of cake, and he burned a lot of people for it. The comment is on this page

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/fouryearslater1.jpg


I mean bring up a critism and I'll show you that it's bull. I mean the guy is arrogant and can be an ass but, the olbermann's and the other hacks like him are far worse and have said actual lies and done viscous personal attacks.

I respect Olbermann much more than O'Reilly, Olbermann has made O'Reilly look stupid on numerous occasions, if you have ever bothered to watch some of his segments. Vicious attacks are totally warranted. When bush nullifies 9 of the 10 amendments we have, we have a right to viciously attack him verbally. Actually, under the Constitution, we have more than a right to do that.


That said Monday is ganna be interesting. I guarantee it's not ganna be a shouting match and he won't cut his mic.

He should never be cutting anyone's mic, but he still does. If you are going to invite someone on your show, you should let them speak, instead O'Reilly invites people on his show, and he usually does most of the talking.

[BillyDkid]

I watch O'Reilly all the time and I think he will give RP a fair shake. O'Reilly is not a Libertarian but he is a traditionalist, and you can't get much more traditional than Thomas Jefferson, with whom RP seems to align himself very well.
I would wager a lot of money that you are wrong. He will try to gut RP just like he tried to gut Harry Browne. O'Reilly has an agenda and it has nothing to do with the truth.

[Kregener]

Being an anarcho-capitalist and digging Bill O'Reilly is like being black and digging on the KKK.

???

[Brandybuck]

The first time I saw O'Reilly, I said "Hey, an extreme centrist!" He's not liberal, not conservative, just a big government centrist with a loud mouth. The only reason people think he's conservative is because he's on FOX and he's pro-war.

[Taxidriver2929]

*Ridiculous.



He has called people who go against bush Anti-American. He has also berated people who wanted Bush impeached, citing that he hasn't broken any laws, but in fact he has, it's called the Constitution. Also calling someone Un-American for wanting to pull out of Iraq, is nazi type of thinking.

Also, O'Reilly still hasn't apologized for all his comments before the war happened, berating everyone, saying that the war was going to be a piece of cake, and he burned a lot of people for it. The comment is on this page

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/fouryearslater1.jpg



I respect Olbermann much more than O'Reilly, Olbermann has made O'Reilly look stupid on numerous occasions, if you have ever bothered to watch some of his segments. Vicious attacks are totally warranted. When bush nullifies 9 of the 10 amendments we have, we have a right to viciously attack him verbally. Actually, under the Constitution, we have more than a right to do that.



He should never be cutting anyone's mic, but he still does. If you are going to invite someone on your show, you should let them speak, instead O'Reilly invites people on his show, and he usually does most of the talking.



Well first of all Bush hasn't commited an impeachable offence and all the talk about getting him impeached is mainly just people trying to make a name. There just isn't enough to do it yet and it will take so long that he will be out before he can be impeached. And the constitution has been toilet paper for a long time. And that's a lie he never said people who wanted to pull out of Iraq where Nazi thinking. Also the people he really berated where mostly far left shrills but, you are right but, he doesn't go after physical features and personally insult people like Keith Olbermann.

Also you don't watch O'Reilly and if you had seen what truely happend you wouldn't be bashing O'Reilly. Lets take the last few BS storys the one where KO said that Bill O'Reilly defended a pedophile from To Catch a Predator(a total lie), he mischaracterized the pink pistol thing(and had the pres. from CARE on the next day to apologize), and the thing at the baseball game with the gay pride parade. All total BS.

Also lol the costitution lets Olbermann personally attack people. WOW you know just cause, you can do something doesn't mean you should man. Also when you said he does most of the talking it's really 50/50 cause, the differance between his show and olbermann is he actually gets people with differant points of views to debate him instead of the same socialist shrill to nod there head at whatever Olbermann says.

[Taxidriver2929]

Being an anarcho-capitalist and digging Bill O'Reilly is like being black and digging on the KKK.

???

Well I also like Bill Maher too. I watch both sides. I think O'Reilly and Maher are wrong on everything but, just cause, I disagree with them doesn't mean I hate them. I realize that there are good and bad on both sides like you have coulter and olbermann too.

[Taxidriver2929]

The first time I saw O'Reilly, I said "Hey, an extreme centrist!" He's not liberal, not conservative, just a big government centrist with a loud mouth. The only reason people think he's conservative is because he's on FOX and he's pro-war.

Yeah your right he's just a big govt. guy. And when it comes to the war he isn't a Sean Hannity he will paint a decent picture of it.

[Taxidriver2929]

oh also I have watched O'Reilly for 3 years and I have seen him cut one mic and he was personally attacked. See Olbermann is never ganna get personally attacked because, everyone on his show belongs to his fan club.

[Taxidriver2929]

I would wager a lot of money that you are wrong. He will try to gut RP just like he tried to gut Harry Browne. O'Reilly has an agenda and it has nothing to do with the truth.

Hmm I never saw harry browne on his show, but O'Reilly really doesn't have an agenda he might of disagreed with the guy but, he isn't a cheerleader for Bush like the neo cons.

[Mesogen]

Wasn't O'Reilly the one that said if the WMD were never found then he'd never trust the Bush administration again?

And of course, there's the falafel thing. So why would anyone listen to that hypocrite? Entertainment?

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/j/-/oreilly_meinfalafel.jpg

[blazin_it_alwyz]

Well first of all Bush hasn't commited an impeachable offence

* offense.

And pardoning a convicted man, and also passing Wiretapping laws, which violate the freedoms of the people, is a violation of the constitution, a violation of the constitution is illegal, an illegal act is impeachable, and I have many more examples.


And all the talk about getting him impeached is mainly just people trying to make a name.

Yeah it wouldn't be that people are scared that he will invoke Martial Law, from his unconstitutional bills........


There just isn't enough to do it yet and it will take so long that he will be out before he can be impeached

And the constitution has been toilet paper for a long time.

You do realize that when the President enters office, he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution? The fact that he passes laws that violate it is more than enough grounds to get impeached. And before you slander the Constitution, don't forget that it is the very writ that made this country free, you wouldn't be celebrating July 4th every year if it wasn't for it.


And that's a lie he never said people who wanted to pull out of Iraq where Nazi thinking.

Wow you are not capable of critical thinking are you? Go back to the post where I responded to you, and see if that is what I said.


Also the people he really berated where mostly far left shrills

Because it is alright to berate "far left shrills"..........


but, you are right but, he doesn't go after physical features and personally insult people like Keith Olbermann.

Also you don't watch O'Reilly and if you had seen what truely happend you wouldn't be bashing O'Reilly. Lets take the last few BS storys the one where KO said that Bill O'Reilly defended a pedophile from To Catch a Predator(a total lie), he mischaracterized the pink pistol thing(and had the pres. from CARE on the next day to apologize), and the thing at the baseball game with the gay pride parade. All total BS.

Yep, the 50 videos on YouTube are all "total BS". Honestly, I would "usually" go and paste like bunches of movies into this post and point out exactly where he said what he said, but there is no point, you already clearly are a O'Reilly fan, going so far as calling the constitution "toilet paper", that amount of work to prove "you" wrong is not even worth it.


Also lol the costitution lets Olbermann personally attack people. WOW you know just cause, you can do something doesn't mean you should man. Also when you said he does most of the talking it's really 50/50 cause, the differance between his show and olbermann is he actually gets people with differant points of views to debate him instead of the same socialist shrill to nod there head at whatever Olbermann says.

* Constitution
* Difference
* Different.

And yes, when Bush gets rid of our personal freedoms, people get a little PISSED. And yes, everyone who watches Olbermann just sits there and nods their head, as with O'Reilly, it is actually intelligent conversation, shame on me for thinking otherwise, you clearly are a intelligent person who has more of an idea that I do about happenings. I concede this argument to you :rolleyes:

[Taxidriver2929]

Okay first of all ass hole I never called the constitution toilet paper I said, it's been use like it and it has dick hole. And he doesn't personally attack people on the far left he goes after what they say, just as people on the far right should be attacked for what they say not personal features. It's not right to personally attack anyone.

Also just cause, you screw over the constitution you can't get impeached. If that was true every one that was president while there was a central bank and the income tax would be impeached. I would like to see him impeachd but, you can't do it and it's just political bickering. I was against Bill Clintons impeachment too, but it wouldn't matter who ever took Clintons place was ganna do the same crap.

Also I have never heard anyone in congress complain about martial law. All these democrats and neo cons are the same you act like the democrats are some repressed people or some freedom fighters.

Also name one of those shitty Socialist propaganda video's by George Soros I'll tell you why it's BS I know all the controversys 99% is BS name one.

Also I don't really understand what you ment when you responded to me saying Olbermann only has people on his show to nod there heads to anything he says and he does. All though he does is get the same people with the same point of view with scripted Q and A's. If you actually watched O'Reilly instead of some guy giving you his biased summary of things he said you would know your just acting like some brainwashed media matters junkie.

Also before you call me a neo con or something I would defend Bill Maher like this too, cause I'm not some fake libertarian who just listens to far left banters. I actually listen to both sides and know that there are decent people and scum on both sides. I'm never ganna agree with anything that Maher or O'Reilly says but, they arn't like Coulter or Olbermann.

Also people that lack an argument can only point out spelling mistakes to try and make them sound superior.

[fletcher]

Years ago I would watch him, but now I think he is just as bad as Olbermann. They are both self-righteous assholes. Tucker is the only pundit worth watching.

[nayjevin]

all i ever needed to know about oreilly i learned when his guest was a family member of a victim of 9/11 who wanted a new investigation.

Ron Paul's response: "if the families aren't happy, I'm not happy"
Bill O'Reilly's response: "You're a leftist crackpot anti-american. you're a liar, and a waste of time. now for a commercial break."

he is completely unfit for the job he holds.

people with popular journalism shows should be capable of journalism.

[Taxidriver2929]

your right he is self-rigeous but, he's one of the few people who says someone's got a good point even if he disagree with them and he does give people like Scheuer an open forum. I actually really didn't like Tucker at all but, I can't not like him anymore after all the stuff he's done for DR. Paul

let me do a rank best to worst(all of them are kinda lame)

Colmes
O'Reilly
Tucker
Matthews
Hannity
Olbermann

[Taxidriver2929]

all i ever needed to know about oreilly i learned when his guest was a family member of a victim of 9/11 who wanted a new investigation.

Ron Paul's response: "if the families aren't happy, I'm not happy"
Bill O'Reilly's response: "You're a leftist crackpot anti-american. you're a liar, and a waste of time. now for a commercial break."

he is completely unfit for the job he holds.

people with popular journalism shows should be capable of journalism.




Yeah that's exactly what ganaa happen. God why would he say that to Ron Paul when he calls Scheuer a patriot. Get off of move on for a sec and watch the show.

[Taxidriver2929]

Wasn't O'Reilly the one that said if the WMD were never found then he'd never trust the Bush administration again?

And of course, there's the falafel thing. So why would anyone listen to that hypocrite? Entertainment?

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/j/-/oreilly_meinfalafel.jpg

your right he shouldn't trust them anymore, but I don't think I would call him a nazi...

[ghemminger]

Taxi...your new to this forum...seriosusly are you a screener for BO?....I appreciate your input - and to win the Presidency - we are eventually going to have to convert the people watching Fox News - They are not the enemy! Are you guys expecting Dems to come over in large numbers first????

What has RP Fans so insensed is the MAJOR RIFT between the Internet world and the cable tv-radio world

Both sides at this point do not undertand eachother - you are the perfect example of what we have been lacking...someone who has watched BO for 3 years????

I want to talk to you!!! - Please explain this alien world to us - because if most RP supporters were honest we only watch clips of MSM - we are far too busy with other pursuits online etc. to sit through commercials or mundade TV programming

[Chernitsky]

It's not surprising to see the ignorance and lack of education that surrounds any thread involving Bill O'Reilly. It must be the status quo to lack knowledge in order to support him.

How sad.

[Taxidriver2929]

Taxi...your new to this forum...seriosusly are you a screener for BO?....I appreciate your input - and to win the Presidency - we are eventually going to have to convert the people watching Fox News - They are not the enemy! Are you guys expecting Dems to come over in large numbers first????

What has RP Fans so insensed is the MAJOR RIFT between the Internet world and the cable tv-radio world

Both sides at this point do not undertand eachother - you are the perfect example of what we have been lacking...someone who has watched BO for 3 years????

I want to talk to you!!! - Please explain this alien world to us - because if most RP supporters were honest we only watch clips of MSM - we are far too busy with other pursuits online etc. to sit through commercials or mundade TV programming



I'm not a screamer for Bill O'Reilly but, the stuff against him is rediculous and you don't need to "convert" me I'm against all media. The problem with the media isn't that it is left or right wing it's that it is soulless and plays storys of paris hilton all day. I mean I watch network news cause, there are cons to the internet where you can get sucked into alot of edited stuff but, I'm no shrill for Bill O'Reilly but, people act like he is a neo nazi trying to control the world. And I say the same thing to the nuts that bash people on the left who don't deserve it. I have my problems with Bill O'Reilly but, the fact that these people except some propaganda stuff from the far left is troubling especially on a Ron Paul forum. O'Reilly is just a big govt. moderate who is arrogant that's it but, most of the stuff is rediculous and the fact that some of these people are such huge fans of KO is embarrasing.

[Taxidriver2929]

Seriously though I don't see a huge differance between Fox, MSNBC, CNN, and CBS.

[blazin_it_alwyz]

I'm not a screamer for Bill O'Reilly but, the stuff against him is rediculous and you don't need to "convert" me I'm against all media.

The correct spelling of the word is *ridiculous, as I have pointed out at least 6 times.


The problem with the media isn't that it is left or right wing it's that it is soulless and plays storys of paris hilton all day. I mean I watch network news cause, there are cons to the internet

The internet is much more credible than any show on Television. Tell me this, why do news stations like fox, including Bill O'Reilly, censor news stories. North American Union was never mentioned on fox really, neither was news of Bush's impeachment on the table.


I'm no shrill for Bill O'Reilly


really :rolleyes:


O'Reilly is just a big govt. moderate

you do realize that O'Reilly has claimed he is libertarian? What say you to that?


who is arrogant that's it but, most of the stuff is rediculous and the fact that some of these people are such huge fans of KO is embarrasing.

*ridiculous
*embarrassing.

and what do you mean, KO?

[Taxidriver2929]

Actually sorry that it got a little fierey. But, the North American Union hasn't really been mentioned by anyone and I guess I'm a shrill for O'Reilly cause, I don't want to rip his head off but, oh well. Also I dought he ever claimed that he even said I don't get these libertarians when things like this happen(where some mountain climber was stuck and he had to be rescued and crap). Ridiculous...

[blazin_it_alwyz]

Actually sorry that it got a little fierey. But, the North American Union hasn't really been mentioned by anyone

except on the internet, hence my claim for why it is more credible than all these news stations (all of them, FOX, CBS, CNN, ABC)


and I guess I'm a shrill for O'Reilly cause, I don't want to rip his head off but, oh well. Also I dought he ever claimed that he even said I don't get these libertarians when things like this happen(where some mountain climber was stuck and he had to be rescued and crap). Ridiculous...

The word is *doubt.

And he has "claimed" he is libertarian, you can take that up with O'Reilly if you want to, but that is what has came out of his mouth, you are the one that supports him, so that is a question you should be asking yourself...


dude honestly this was a nice little debate while it lasted, but it's time for me to finish this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IofbEgq9bTQ

^^ That video pretty much effectively nullifies everything good you have said about O'Reilly.

[brandon]

taxi driver, take a clue.

Bill-O is nothing but a talking (yelling) head for big government and fox's neocon agenda.

As a student of mathematics, I can tell you that in every clip I have ever seen of Bill_O he builds all of his arguments on logical fallacies and sensationalism.

His conclusions NEVER follow from the premise.

[1776blues]

Bill is not interested in history? He tells Ron Paul no time for history lesson. Exactly why why his statement twice about the incident at Malmedy was wrong and he erased it from his shows transcripts. No Bill is not an okay guy, he is a jackass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7JPvbVsDdY

[they walked in line]

The first time I saw O'Reilly, I said "Hey, an extreme centrist!" He's not liberal, not conservative, just a big government centrist with a loud mouth. The only reason people think he's conservative is because he's on FOX and he's pro-war.

This is probably the best summarization of O'Reilly that I have ever seen, ha.