Schwarzenegger tells GOP that the party is dying

[njandrewg]

Someone saw Ron Paul speech :P


Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger threw down a political gauntlet Friday night to conservative activists who dominate the state GOP leadership, telling them their party is "dying at the box office" and must attract more moderate voters to survive.

"If our party doesn't address the needs of the people, the needs of Republicans themselves - the voters, registered Republicans included, will look elsewhere for their political affiliation," he told a packed - and largely silent - house at the state GOP convention dinner at the Renaissance Esmeralda Resort.

Schwarzenegger was greeted with a standing ovation, but warned the estimated 400 activists that "this is not going to be the typical convention address. ... I didn't come with a bunch of applause lines. But instead, I came here with some concerns about our party."

The applause largely died when Schwarzenegger told them that the party was "losing numbers" and that he feared it is on the road to being "relegated to the margins" of California politics.

The governor urged his fellow Republicans to return to the political "right of center," welcome independent voters and accept solutions to problems such as global warming and a lack of affordable health care that are supported by a majority of voters of all parties.

Schwarzenegger's speech comes during a widening split between the governor and the Republican leadership in Sacramento, who are in the minority in the Assembly and state Senate. Conservative Republican legislators, led by state Sen. Dick Ackerman of Irvine (Orange County), delayed the governor's recent budget for nearly two months, demanding he cut the red ink and some of the Democrats' pet programs.

The governor's drive for health care reform is seriously endangered by GOP opposition, and his efforts to control global warming have been met with widespread criticism within his own party.

Schwarzenegger, in his convention speech, noted that some in the room have publicly questioned his GOP credentials. But, he said, "I have been a Republican since Nixon ... I have been a Republican in spite of years of debates with (wife) Maria (Shriver, a member of the Democratic Kennedy family)."

"I am proud to be a member of the party of Abraham Lincoln," he said. "I am proud to be a member of the party of Ronald Reagan."

Yet, he said, "in movie terms, we are dying at the box office. We are not filling the seats."

Schwarzenegger said the number of independent, unaffiliated voters is growing - and they "generally agree with our core principles," including lower taxes and less government. "They can be reached."

He said the party must become more moderate.

"Our party has lost the middle, and we will not regain true political power in California until we get it back," he said. "I am of the Reagan view that we should not go off the cliff with flags flying."

Despite the quiet reception, some delegates said they agreed with Schwarzenegger.

"The governor got it right," said Lynn Daucher, a former Assemblywoman from Orange County. "What he said was true ... the way to win is what he's doing, by capturing the center. We've never had a Republican governor come to a convention like this and say what is on many of our minds."

[Lord Xar]

Well, George Bush wanted a legacy -- he has it! He destroyed the party.

[max]

Someone saw Ron Paul speech :P

What Arnold means is the GOP has to become even more scialist than it already is..

Ego maniac Arnold is in bed with the globalists like Rothchild.

[hard@work]

any video?

[njandrewg]

What Arnold means is the GOP has to become even more scialist than it already is..

Ego maniac Arnold is in bed with the globalists like Rothchild.

the way I see it...is that he sees the problem but sees a different solution.

Ron Paul's solution: bring back the conservative values that everyone claims to have

Arnold's solution: go even more liberal

its kinda like the whole debate: Ron Paul...big gov't was the problem, we need less government. While the rest want even more government

[max]

any video?

Photo of Arnold with Rothchild and Warren Buffet

http://images.scotsman.com/2002/09/25/2509ARNB.JPG

[quickmike]

What Arnold means is the GOP has to become even more scialist than it already is..

Ego maniac Arnold is in bed with the globalists like Rothchild.


Thats kinda the way I took this.

[Man from La Mancha]

Sounds like he doesn't have a clue by his actions and not his Reagan words. Just another actor.

http://www.nogw.com/images/rothschild_arn_buf.jpg


Schwarzenegger being Groomed for California's Governor
Warren Buffet, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Lord Jacob Rothschild at Waddesdon Manor
"Everything about this gathering made me think of Boccaccio. The setting was Waddesdon Manor, the magnificent baroque palace outside London, built by the Rothschild family, in the 1980s.... The hosts were Lord Rothschild,.... and Warren Buffet, the owner of NetJets, and the second richest man in the world." The themes were so unnerving, that "the conference agenda made me think of Boccacciossybarites, eating sweetmeats on their hilltop outside Florence, as the plague ravaged the world outside.."

He said that while everyone was drinking the best wines in the world, they were confronted with "three interconnected traumas" by those speaking: The Middle East, The collapse of shares, and the prospect of a global economic depression.

.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

ugh... Reagan, Reagan, Reagan. give me a break. Ron Paul is a million times better than Ronald Reagan. I'd prefer Barry Goldwater over Reagan! What was it? That he was the last GOP president that wasn't a fucking asshole? lol he was a nice guy, but I just think his war on drugs was a HUGE mistake. Prevent people from doing what they want to do? FUCK THAT! Why can't I smoke marijuana if I want to? god damn it. How dare he. Michael Badnarik is ten thousand times better than Reagan.

[Corydoras]

"I am of the Reagan view that we should not go off the cliff with flags flying."

Take that, Huckabee!

:D

[0zzy]

You guys hate on the Govonator too much ;) He's better then some of the other Republicans we have in office! I think:).

[JosephTheLibertarian]

You guys hate on the Govonator too much ;) He's better then some of the other Republicans we have in office! I think:).

he has let people get executed.. fuck that guy. I don't really care about the GOP, I just care that Ron Paul is in it. If RP were a member of the Socialist Party, I'd join that.

[lucius]

Sounds like he doesn't have a clue by his actions and not his Reagan words. Just another actor.

http://www.nogw.com/images/rothschild_arn_buf.jpg


Schwarzenegger being Groomed for California's Governor
Warren Buffet, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Lord Jacob Rothschild at Waddesdon Manor
"Everything about this gathering made me think of Boccaccio. The setting was Waddesdon Manor, the magnificent baroque palace outside London, built by the Rothschild family, in the 1980s.... The hosts were Lord Rothschild,.... and Warren Buffet, the owner of NetJets, and the second richest man in the world." The themes were so unnerving, that "the conference agenda made me think of Boccacciossybarites, eating sweetmeats on their hilltop outside Florence, as the plague ravaged the world outside.."

He said that while everyone was drinking the best wines in the world, they were confronted with "three interconnected traumas" by those speaking: The Middle East, The collapse of shares, and the prospect of a global economic depression.

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for the love of three cartridges...one with excellent alignment...just kidding ;)

[max]

he has let people get executed.. fuck that guy

Reagans biggest fuck up was in picking Bush the Elder as VP....thats how he became presient and his ass clown son then beacsme president..

Reagan stabbed his conservative base in the back when he picked Rockefeller tool Bush

[lucius]

Reagan was poison...

[BW4Paul]

You guys hate on the Govonator too much ;) He's better then some of the other Republicans we have in office! I think:).

Disagree. He is the worst kind of statist: all the big government of the Democrats mixed with all the greed of the Neo-Cons.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Reagans biggest fuck up was in picking Bush the Elder as VP....thats how he became presient and his ass clown son then beacsme president..

Reagan stabbed his conservative base in the back when he picked Rockefeller tool Bush

I don't dispute that Ronald Reagan was nice, I just hate the shit he has done lol I don't see a lot to brag about. Government expanded under him. We got harder on drugs. He did handle the SU good, but that's pretty trivial, no president really was threatening the SU lol Ron Paul would have probably got the SU to be our greatest friend :D

[speciallyblend]

Thats the point you should stress to any GOP,if they refuse to hear RON PAUL'S MESSAGE. Then the GOP will lose period.

Explain without Ron Paul for President in the GOP,then the GOP will be dead in the water no matter how many millions they spend ,they will lose the next election. My family's Votes do matter and we will not waste them on democrats or republicans either way they will screw us,unless we nominate RON PAUL 2008

[RP4ME]

What Arnold means is the GOP has to become even more scialist than it already is..

Ego maniac Arnold is in bed with the globalists like Rothchild.
ye my take away is that GOP needs to be moe socialistic as well....

[JosephTheLibertarian]

What he needs to do is deregulate the political process so that the LP can begin electing their guys.

[Lord Xar]

ye my take away is that GOP needs to be moe socialistic as well....

yikes.... I don't believe give people things is the job of government.

Socialism is a road to revolution...

[quickmike]

ugh... Reagan, Reagan, Reagan. give me a break. Ron Paul is a million times better than Ronald Reagan. I'd prefer Barry Goldwater over Reagan! What was it? That he was the last GOP president that wasn't a fucking asshole? lol he was a nice guy, but I just think his war on drugs was a HUGE mistake. Prevent people from doing what they want to do? FUCK THAT! Why can't I smoke marijuana if I want to? god damn it. How dare he. Michael Badnarik is ten thousand times better than Reagan.

Badnarik is too smart for his own good sometimes.

you ever watch a dogs head tilt sideways when it sees something it doesnt understand? Well, thats the impression of the average american voter when they would hear Badnarik speak.

I voted for him in 04 and out of 40,000 votes in my county, he got 235

People dont use their heads much in this country anymore. Instead, they vote based on emotion and name recognition.

When someone smart speaks, most people just go "wuuuh? pfffft............ that guy dont make no sense!!!! " Yeah, he doesnt make sense because these people are like dogs watching a human turn a door knob and wondering what the hell they are doing.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Badnarik is too smart for his own good sometimes.

you ever watch a dogs head tilt sideways when it sees something it doesnt understand? Well, thats the impression of the average american voter when they would hear Badnarik speak.

I voted for him in 04 and out of 40,000 votes in my county, he got 235

People dont use their heads much in this country anymore. Instead, they vote based on emotion and name recognition.

When someone smart speaks, most people just go "wuuuh? pfffft............ that guy dont make no sense!!!! " Yeah, he doesnt make sense because these people are like dogs watching a human turn a door knob and wondering what the hell they are doing.

lol. the problem is that he runs unrealistic campaigns. You can not get anywhere with how the LP currently is operating, it needs reforms. Also, I think he'd get elected if he were to run for the Democratic Party, or the GOP

[james1906]

The problem is the California is too liberal for a true conservative. Look at Tom McClintock. He's well liked and respected. He's ran for statewide office 3 times, and has lost every time. He usually gets more votes than other GOP candidates though, I'm sure most of that coming from the Libertarian and A. Ind. parties. CA simply doesn't want someone who wants to cut government.

This is the state that votes to stop banks from charging ATM fees, requires gas stations to supply free air and water, and won't rest until everywhere is 'smoke-free'

[Kregener]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Kregener/National-Debt-GDP.gif


Yeah, Reagan was a real CHAMP.

[Kregener]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Kregener/usdebtbyReagan.gif

[quickmike]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Kregener/National-Debt-GDP.gif


Yeah, Reagan was a real CHAMP.

Hey, he ALMOST beat truman.......... give the guy a break ....... LOL

[gtjwkq]

That speech is crazy, but I still think Schwarzenegger can be turned around (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=12588), he can become a Ron Paul supporter. The Governator used to be a disciple of Milton Friedman.

I used to be a classic liberal myself, but I deviated from those principles and became a Bush supporter in these last years.

Ron Paul's powerful message woke me up. It can do the same for Arnold.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

wow.. Truman sucked lol

[Chester Copperpot]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Kregener/National-Debt-GDP.gif


Yeah, Reagan was a real CHAMP.

That chart is a little misleading but only because it uses GDP... technically it means those numbers are actually worse then if they compared it against GNP.


GDP is a worse index because it hides the fact that foreigners have been buying up more of American property

[blazin_it_alwyz]

You guys hate on the Govonator too much ;) He's better then some of the other Republicans we have in office! I think:).

He is just as bad as Hillary. He was one of the main ones, trying to pass laws to censor video games, and fine anyone for trying to sell them to minors.

[4Horsemen]

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6702/arnieab2.png

Nice Nazi belt.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Bloomberg is jewish lol. ?

[4Horsemen]

I wonder why the ADL doesn't protest Time magazine?

[inibo]

Yeah, he doesn't make sense because these people are like dogs watching a human turn a door knob and wondering what the hell they are doing.

Hammer, Nail, Wham!

:D