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danberkeley
11-06-2008, 11:26 PM
How long till Obama gets us into his first war.

Golding
11-07-2008, 12:08 AM
How long till Obama gets us into his first war.Day 1.

Hi. We're already in multiple wars. Welcome to America.

IRONCLAD
11-07-2008, 12:10 AM
First New War - Now until the end of 2009 is my guess.

hypnagogue
11-07-2008, 04:10 AM
He hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he would be starting any new wars.

coyote_sprit
11-07-2008, 04:30 AM
He hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he would be starting any new wars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

vodalian
11-07-2008, 05:42 AM
He hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he would be starting any new wars.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Bruno
11-07-2008, 07:18 AM
He hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he would be starting any new wars.

Hope you watched the video posted by coyote spirit above.

Obama's strategy will be to move a few brigades from Iraq, giving people the sense that the Iraq war is coming to an end. He will make no real attempt to end the building of new bases and there will be at least 60,000 troops still in Iraq at the end of his first term.
He will move the brigades to Afghanistan and other places and casualties will mount there.
Those who thought they saw Obama as their "peace candidate" will be as surprised as Republicans who thought Bush was their "no nation-building candidate"

Captain Shays
11-07-2008, 09:18 AM
By the end of summer 2009. I expect it to be some kind of an attack which will be used as a pretext for a larger, and wider engagement. A Gulf of Tonkin incident that Ron Paul talked about. I know that this administration isn't out fo there until Jan so it could happen at any time. Know that Iran and Syria have a mutual defense agreement so if we're into it with one of them, we're also in it with the other as well. Both countries were on PNAC's target list. Bush was step #1 and Obama will be number two. The step that makes us fall into the rapids.

danberkeley
11-07-2008, 03:56 PM
shameless bump

CountryboyRonPaul
11-07-2008, 04:01 PM
"It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy."

-Joe Biden

mellamojuana
11-07-2008, 04:19 PM
Obama said during a debate he thought the troops should leave Iraq, and we should go after bin Laden in Afghanistan. I expect continued shotgun destruction with the USA at the trigger, although almost everyone seems to want us to stay at home and deal with our own problems. When they'll point the weapon in our name, I don't know. I do know that I am ashamed of our country. :(

nodope0695
11-07-2008, 04:25 PM
As soon as Israel attacks Iran's nuclear plants, a war will start, and Obama will not support Israel....forget not that Obama is good buddies with Rashim Qalidi (spelling?), a spokesman for Arafat. He is also pals with Lewis Farikan, a ardent anti-semite, who refered to Obama is "The One." His new chief of staff's father was a member of some group in Israel who, depending on whose fingers were getting smashed in the door jam, was a revolutionary group, or a terrorist cell.

Obama is NOT friends with Israel. All those ignorant jewish sheep who voted for him are in for a big suprise.

heavenlyboy34
11-07-2008, 04:32 PM
By the end of summer 2009. I expect it to be some kind of an attack which will be used as a pretext for a larger, and wider engagement. A Gulf of Tonkin incident that Ron Paul talked about. I know that this administration isn't out fo there until Jan so it could happen at any time. Know that Iran and Syria have a mutual defense agreement so if we're into it with one of them, we're also in it with the other as well. Both countries were on PNAC's target list. Bush was step #1 and Obama will be number two. The step that makes us fall into the rapids.

I don't think summer is a good time for a false flag attack. Most people are on vacation, and don't have time to get riled up and start calling their congressmen. It's also too hot for it to be practical in most places. Pearl Harbor was in winter, 9/11 in fall. However, Gulf of Tonkin was August, so I suppose there is some rationale to what you say. We also have to see how many neocons are appointed in the new cabinet and throughout the administration. When I know more, I make a call on it.

american.swan
11-07-2008, 04:34 PM
As much as he is being told to start wars, I am not so sure he will. I suspect at the end of his first term the economy will be in such back shape he will probably have many troops home but absolutely not all.

I think if there is another 911 event, we'll be in for trouble.

heavenlyboy34
11-07-2008, 04:36 PM
As soon as Israel attacks Iran's nuclear plants, a war will start, and Obama will not support Israel....forget not that Obama is good buddies with Rashim Qalidi (spelling?), a spokesman for Arafat. He is also pals with Lewis Farikan, a ardent anti-semite, who refered to Obama is "The One." His new chief of staff's father was a member of some group in Israel who, depending on whose fingers were getting smashed in the door jam, was a revolutionary group, or a terrorist cell.

Obama is NOT friends with Israel. All those ignorant jewish sheep who voted for him are in for a big suprise.

I don't understand why Israel would make such a move when they don't have the same implicit backing that they had when the Bush neocons ruled-nor do I know of Zionists in the Obama regime. Please explain.

danberkeley
11-07-2008, 04:38 PM
As soon as Israel attacks Iran's nuclear plants, a war will start, and Obama will not support Israel....forget not that Obama is good buddies with Rashim Qalidi (spelling?), a spokesman for Arafat. He is also pals with Lewis Farikan, a ardent anti-semite, who refered to Obama is "The One." His new chief of staff's father was a member of some group in Israel who, depending on whose fingers were getting smashed in the door jam, was a revolutionary group, or a terrorist cell.

Obama is NOT friends with Israel. All those ignorant jewish sheep who voted for him are in for a big suprise.

He also spoke in front of AIPAC.

danberkeley
11-07-2008, 04:41 PM
I don't understand why Israel would make such a move when they don't have the same implicit backing that they had when the Bush neocons ruled-nor do I know of Zionists in the Obama regime. Please explain.

They could always do it from now till inauguration

danberkeley
11-07-2008, 06:02 PM
another shameless bump :D

vodalian
11-07-2008, 06:25 PM
As much as he is being told to start wars, I am not so sure he will. I suspect at the end of his first term the economy will be in such back shape he will probably have many troops home but absolutely not all.

I think if there is another 911 event, we'll be in for trouble.

That's quite the assumption considering he has been promising war throughout his entire campaign.

hypnagogue
11-07-2008, 06:25 PM
Okay, I've watched the video. I'm still not convinced that he will be starting any new wars. Will he fully disengage in Iraq? Probably not. Will he escalate action in Afghanistan? Yes. It seems he may even make unilateral strikes on targets within Pakistan. I don't see him attacking Pakistan as a nation, however. That's what I mean when I say I don't see any new wars.

CountryboyRonPaul
11-07-2008, 10:04 PM
His new chief of staff's father was a member of some group in Israel who, depending on whose fingers were getting smashed in the door jam, was a revolutionary group, or a terrorist cell.

Obama is NOT friends with Israel. All those ignorant jewish sheep who voted for him are in for a big suprise.

Rahm's father was a member of a Pro-Israeli Terrorist group.


His father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and former member of the Irgun,[34] a radical Zionist paramilitary group

And don't even get started on Biden's ties to AIPAC.

Expect Obama to bow to AIPAC as easily as any other Neo-Con.

Contumacious
11-07-2008, 10:08 PM
He hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he would be starting any new wars.

No?

His Chief Of Staff - Rahm Israel Emanuel - Is a Member Of the Israeli Defense Forces - He has Dual US -Israel Citizenship.

'nuff said.

cindy25
11-07-2008, 10:46 PM
whenever the Israeli PM (aka his boss) says so

The_Orlonater
11-07-2008, 11:05 PM
Secession! More reasons, the global beaurocratic socialists are shunning us. I f they want to live in this country, fine but we should secede. I won't shut up about this, it's important.

danberkeley
11-08-2008, 01:31 AM
bumpzies

anaconda
11-08-2008, 02:15 AM
Brzezinski is already in charge and we are already bombing Pakistan. So Obama has already started a war with Pakistan before he has been sworn in. This wasn't one of the choices on the poll.

danberkeley
11-08-2008, 02:57 AM
Brzezinski is already in charge and we are already bombing Pakistan. So Obama has already started a war with Pakistan before he has been sworn in. This wasn't one of the choices on the poll.

"Now to inauguration" is option numero uno

:bunchies:

anaconda
11-08-2008, 04:17 AM
"Now to inauguration" is option numero uno

We started bombing Pakistan way before "now." Brzezinski seized power several months ago.

danberkeley
11-09-2008, 12:19 AM
We started bombing Pakistan way before "now." Brzezinski seized power several months ago.

Oh. I see what you are saying. However, could you provide a source for "Brzezinski seized power several months ago"?

Brooklyn Red Leg
11-09-2008, 08:44 AM
"It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy."

-Joe Biden

Yea, I came to the awful realisation before the election that Biden had let something slip that he shouldn't have. Namely the plans for getting us into another war and/or a reason for the looter thugs in office to start cracking skulls of any and all protestors at home. Expect more and more Katrina-type firearm seizures once 'the state of emergency' comes to fruition.

Gadsden Flag
11-09-2008, 12:05 PM
I might disagree with him about a lot of stuff, but he wouldn't start a new war.

anaconda
11-09-2008, 02:33 PM
Oh. I see what you are saying. However, could you provide a source for "Brzezinski seized power several months ago"?

Good and relevant question. Here ya go....

http://www.rense.com/general82/uspol.htm

http://www.rense.com/general80/bz.htm

Natalie
11-09-2008, 02:36 PM
I can't wait until Obama starts his first war, so that all the anti-war people who supported him realize how very wrong they are.

danberkeley
11-11-2008, 12:16 PM
"It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy."

-Joe Biden

yup

revolutionist
11-11-2008, 03:42 PM
I can't wait until Obama starts his first war, so that all the anti-war people who supported him realize how very wrong they are.

That isn't a good reason to wish for war. You want more people to die so you can prove a point? Wow...

danberkeley
11-11-2008, 04:02 PM
That isn't a good reason to wish for war. You want more people to die so you can prove a point? Wow...

She is not wishing for a war. She knows a war will happen, and is waiting impatiently for it to happen... so that she can prove a point.

brandon
11-11-2008, 04:04 PM
What counts as a war anymore?

I mean, we say what we are doing in Iraq is a war...yet it was never declared as one.

And when we attack other countries like Syria and Pakistan we say it's not a war.


So maybe you should make the poll a little more clear...like "How long until the first attack on a foreign nation other then Iraq and Afghanistan after Obama takes office?" In which case I would say in the first month this will happen.

danberkeley
11-11-2008, 04:09 PM
What counts as a war anymore?

I mean, we say what we are doing in Iraq is a war...yet it was never declared as one.

And when we attack other countries like Syria and Pakistan we say it's not a war.

I thought about that question after starting the poll. I should have mention proxy wars.


So maybe you should make the poll a little more clear...like "How long until the first attack on a foreign nation other then Iraq and Afghanistan after Obama takes office?" In which case I would say in the first month this will happen.

I agree.

revolutionist
11-11-2008, 04:36 PM
She is not wishing for a war. She knows a war will happen, and is waiting impatiently for it to happen... so that she can prove a point.

Only power hungry tyrants wait impatiently for war to happen.


It's against the character of the liberty movement to hope for war to advance our agenda. It goes completely against what we stand for. I think you need to rethink what the implications of what you are hoping for are.

torchbearer
11-11-2008, 04:44 PM
this country can't afford another war.
we don't have the troops for another war.
and without a major false-flag event, we don't have the will for another war.

danberkeley
11-11-2008, 04:57 PM
Only power hungry tyrants wait impatiently for war to happen.


It's against the character of the liberty movement to hope for war to advance our agenda. It goes completely against what we stand for. I think you need to rethink what the implications of what you are hoping for are.

Who was the last US president to not invade, attack, embargo, or otherwise go to war with another nation? History tells us that Obama will likely start or continue a war, be it a simple bombing run or full blown nuclear war.

danberkeley
11-11-2008, 04:59 PM
this country can't afford another war.
we don't have the troops for another war.
and without a major false-flag event, we don't have the will for another war.

Yup. I think it will be the way of false-flag.

Danke
11-11-2008, 05:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

Added Feb. 2008. Wow. We have some talented people in this movement. I hope they stick around.

anaconda
11-11-2008, 11:49 PM
Obama is a slimy dickhead.

Kludge
12-06-2008, 07:57 PM
Added Feb. 2008. Wow. We have some talented people in this movement. I hope they stick around.
This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.