Glenn Beck - We Need To Unite With Obama.

[mconder]

Glenn Beck is on right now saying, "we need to unite with Obama. This nation needs to heal. He is my president for the next 4 years." Also, "stop with the birth certificate thing...the courts have already 'looked into it.'"

[SnappleLlama]

*Picture of Captain Picard holding his head*

[Pennsylvania]

stfu glenn

[gls]

When are people going to realize that NONE of these corporate media whores are on our side.

[RonPaulNewbee]

Glenn Beck = Douche Bag

That said, I agree with him here ... just like the fact that I agreed when he supported Ron Paul. Everything else I hear from him is douche water.

[Crash Martinez]

Wait, you agree with him WHERE?

...on uniting with Obama?? (btw were those really his words??)

I've been hearing a lot of disturbingly compromised speech from my supposed fellow revolutionaries over the past couple days.

Obama is the coming COMMUNIST DICTATOR! We need to do anything BUT unite with him. In fact, as much as we can possibly SEPARATE from him, that's exactly what we need to do!!!

[pacelli]

Yeah, Glenn Beck is a friend of the liberty movement. Took him long enough.

[Crash Martinez]

was he joking? he makes jokes sometimes...

[tommyzDad]

Anything to keep your job, eh, Glenn? :rolleyes:
See you in the Gulags, buddy.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

All the media needs to jump on board the Obama train. The media needs to be purged along with the political machine and the economy so we can have a fresh start.

The media lost its objective credibility long ago. We need to start over from scratch.

[brandon]

That said, I agree with him here

You think we should unite with Obama?? What about our principles? What about liberty and peace?

[brandon]

Glenn Beck = Douche Bag

That said, I agree with him here ... just like the fact that I agreed when he supported Ron Paul. Everything else I hear from him is douche water.

Oh I get it, You have been on here preaching for Obama for many months...

Last March...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1324171#post1324171

[Crash Martinez]

Good call!!

[Andrew-Austin]

Gate keeper.

[constitutional]

Gate keeper.

Gate Keeper my ass. Stop lying to yourself and learn to accept facts/reality. Beck just made a profound statement which he is known to do. He is not fully on our side and that's okay. BUT stop lying to yourself.

[Mini-Me]

This reminds me of something...ah, yes!

"And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helper!" he said, coming near and speaking now in a softer voice. "I said we, for we it may be, if you will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the old allies and policies will not avail us at all. There is no hope left in Elves or dying Númenor. This then is one choice before you, before us. We may join with that Power. It would be wise, Gandalf. There is hope that way. Its victory is at hand; and there will be rich reward for those that aided it. As the Power grows, its proved friends will also grow; and the Wise, such as you and I, may with patience come at last to direct its courses, to control it. We can bide our time, we can keep our thoughts in our hearts, deploring maybe evils done by the way, but approving the high and ultimate purpose: Knowledge, Rule, Order; all the things that we have so far striven in vain to accomplish, hindered rather than helped by our weak or idle friends. There need not be, there would not be, any real change in our designs, only in our means."


Or in the movie version:

"Against the power of Mordor there can be no victory. We must join with him, Gandalf. We must join with Sauron. It would be wise, my friend."

I will give credit to Obama where it is due and when he earns it...and only then, and for those specific actions.

[BuddyRey]

When are people going to realize that NONE of these corporate media whores are on our side.

QFT! From Tucker Carlson and Jack Cafferty to Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck, naive people propose than any or all of the above are genuine supporters of Ron Paul.

If there was even one single shred of evidence pointing to this, none of the aforementioned pundits would have jobs on corporate and FCC-funded cable television!!!

[HOLLYWOOD]

Hugo Chavez and Castro can unite with Obama... they seem to have much in common.

Uh... Socialism & Communism

Hell, Hugo even complemented Dubya Bush for his socialist policies, programs and actions.


LOL!!!

[heavenlyboy34]

I guess Beck needs a central planner too, like any other good sheeple. :rolleyes: :p

[youngbuck]

Listen to what Webster Tarplay says about Obama. I'm starting to agree with him more and more in that Obama is more of a fascist, than a socialist/communist.

Try to find his interview on the Alex Jones show (he actually gets to host the show for an hour and a half), and it really kinda freaked me out. It's from 11/5.

[dr. hfn]

glenn beck changes his mind every two seconds

[Andrew-Austin]

Gate Keeper my ass. Stop lying to yourself and learn to accept facts/reality. Beck just made a profound statement which he is known to do. He is not fully on our side and that's okay. BUT stop lying to yourself.

Having an opinion is not the same thing as lying to myself.

I'm really not holding Beck to high expectations or anything, hes either against fascism and socialism or hes not. Check out Obama's propaganda website and tell me that is not creepy stuff, how can Beck think its a good idea to unite behind that.

[ItsTime]

anyone have the audio of this?

[Maverick]

glenn beck changes his mind every two seconds

He hasn't been able to stay consistent on anything lately. I think he lost his mind a couple of months ago and hasn't found it again yet.

[sparebulb]

Glen Bleckt: backstabbing, drug addicted, bipolar, neo-con shill. He is no friend of RP's values or the Constitution. This guy would blow Cheney for increased market share. He'll blow Obamination tomorrow for the same.

[ChickenHawk]

Glenn Beck is right. Obama is the next President and there is no point in attacking him until he actually does something wrong. If you listened to what he said you would know that he said we need to unite because this country has serious problems that need to be addressed. He also said that he would stand in opposition to Obama if (when) it becomes necessary. He never said that we need to help Obama push through his Marxist agenda. We don't even know if Obama will even be a radical leftist yet (I'll place bets though).

Unfortunately many people here think that unless someone is pushing a pure libertarian agenda they need to be destroyed. Lets wait and see what Obama does. If he's only as bad as Clinton then we will survive.

[klamath]

I won't go as far as saying I will unite behind him but I am waiting to see his actual actions. Maybe just maybe Obama is a closet Libertarian and it is the Democrats turn to be pissed that they were suckered just like the rank and file Republicans feel about Bush. I can dream.

[heavenlyboy34]

I won't go as far as saying I will unite behind him but I am waiting to see his actual actions. Maybe just maybe Obama is a closet Libertarian and it is the Democrats turn to be pissed that they were suckered just like the rank and file Republicans feel about Bush. I can dream.

:rolleyes: Sounds like a quip from someone living in a fantasy fairyland.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

Glenn Beck is right. Obama is the next President and there is no point in attacking him until he actually does something wrong. If you listened to what he said you would know that he said we need to unite because this country has serious problems that need to be addressed. He also said that he would stand in opposition to Obama if (when) it becomes necessary. He never said that we need to help Obama push through his Marxist agenda. We don't even know if Obama will even be a radical leftist yet (I'll place bets though).

Unfortunately many people here think that unless someone is pushing a pure libertarian agenda they need to be destroyed. Lets wait and see what Obama does. If he's only as bad as Clinton then we will survive.

so sad. look at the people that Obama surrounds himself with and you will know exactly what to expect.

[ChickenHawk]

so sad. look at the people that Obama surrounds himself with and you will know exactly what to expect.

I agree. I'm pretty sure I know what Obama will do but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Probably too much.

[satchelmcqueen]

wait a minute! is this the same glenn beck that was burying obama 2 months ago on his tv show?

seems glenn has changed his opinion real quick like since signing with the White House Chan...i mean FOX News Channel.

[ChickenHawk]

wait a minute! is this the same glenn beck that was burying obama 2 months ago on his tv show?

seems glenn has changed his opinion real quick like since signing with the White House Chan...i mean FOX News Channel.

Glenn was trashing Obama two days ago. The election is over. It's pointless to trash him until he starts doing what we all know he's probably going to do. Don't let anyone say we didn't give him a chance.

[SouthGeorgia61]

Glenn was trashing Obama two days ago. The election is over. It's pointless to trash him until he starts doing what we all know he's probably going to do. Don't let anyone say we didn't give him a chance.

This

Ya Obama will probably be a terrible president, but why not give him a chance since we are stuck with him anyway, might as well hope he won't be terrilbe and just mediocre lol.

[ChickenHawk]

This

Ya Obama will probably be a terrible president, but why not give him a chance since we are stuck with him anyway, might as well hope he won't be terrilbe and just mediocre lol.


Exactly. If you attack from day one (or in this case before day one) it hurts your credibilty when you attack later. People will just say that you are against him no matter what and dismiss you as a partisan hack.

[The_Orlonater]

You guys aren't seriously this dumb. He's saying that all of us Libertarians should unite under Obama, or in fact everybody. No one is praising an Obama administration, we have to all pull through this together. Let's all secede(My opinion :D)

[heavenlyboy34]

You guys aren't seriously this dumb. He's saying that all of us Libertarians should unite under Obama, or in fact everybody. No one is praising an Obama administration, we have to all pull through this together. Let's all secede(My opinion :D)

I second your opinion. The opinion now goes to the floor for a consensus vote among RPFers :D.

[jsu718]

Glenn Beck will be on O'Reilly on Monday, and his own show on Fox will start in January... I am sure you can let him know how you feel, or at least try to, on Monday. You all know how to get in :)

[Anti Federalist]

LoL, I heard Hannity saying essentially the same thing the other day.

Look, it's really very simple:

The media is not "liberal" nor is it "conservative", or any other variation or permutation thereof.

It is "statist".

It is "all government - all the time".

It is Pravda.

It will tow the party line, it will regurgitate the press releases as fact, it is owned by the corporate interests that are vested in an expansionist, welfare/warfare state.

The snits and alarums, the petty biases of the punditry, the "left wing" or "right wing" cheerleading is just a show, it's fake, it's all theater, it's pro wrestling.

There has not been an investigative, hard hitting, independent media for 30 years now, maybe longer.

And there is no-one, regardless of how pleasant their overtures may be, in mainstream media that is a true friend of limited government and liberty.

[gls]

And there is no-one, regardless of how pleasant their overtures may be, in mainstream media that is a true friend of limited government and liberty.

John Stossel is the real deal, but he's the only one I can think of.

[Anti Federalist]

John Stossel is the real deal, but he's the only one I can think of.

He very well may be.

He did an outstanding interview with Ron Paul that could have worked wonders to introduce him to people.

ABC sat on it and refused to air it on broadcast TV.

[RonPaulNewbee]

You think we should unite with Obama?? What about our principles? What about liberty and peace?

Well let's take Peace first. You like having a say in your government? Well, after 9/11 the majority of the people wanted some kind of justice. And even the world recognized we deserved to get us some payback after that attack. Now, we don't know-from Letters of Marque. And we don't have that kind of Army, unless you want to hire it out to Blackwater. Those are your fucking choices dude!

NO ONE blamed us for going off to kick some ass. We all know what happened after that. The Republican in Chief became terrorist in chief, didn't he? Yeah, Clinton had bombed Iraq because Bush 41 never finished the job, but Bush43 was going to finish it. Do I have it right so far? Peace is Obama. As I've said before, you don't just declare peace ... it would be too dangerous for WE THE PEOPLE serving in the military. It has to be an orderly withdrawal. I'll tackle Liberty next.

[RonPaulNewbee]

Liberty is a bit of a land mine around here because of the conspiracy theories running rampant. Let's just say that nobody would have done Liberty like Ron Paul. That said, there are some harsh political realities in the world that are not easy choices. Barack will get us out of Iraq. Not easy. Barack will win the war with the Taliban. Not easy considering it was equated in the minds of EVERYONE with "The War On Terror" (which we all know its not). But one has to get elected to change anything.

The biggest drain on us financially is all the war. Common sense would have been to raise taxes. Bush did not and that is one time NOT raising taxes hurt us. Normally I'm against taxes! But Bush made right wrong, left right, and up down. We have to turn it all around. Still! Obama is cutting taxes. You are pissed because Obama won't kill the FED. Won't kill the IRS. Won't kill the Pentagon Budget. No responsible president would do that in these times. Ron Paul's proposed changes wouldn't even begin to take effect while in his first term! But you expect MORE from Barack?

Barack is an establishment guy. There's no doubting it. That doesn't make him evil, it just makes him NOT JESUS. Well guess what? Ron is not establishment and he's still NOT JESUS so get over it. These are problems that only a down and dirty politician can solve. I certainly would not want to have that stupid job. You couldn't pay me enough! I still can't figure out why Ron wanted that dirty job. Anyway, Barack is going to bring back your Liberty that Bush stole from you with all those signing statements first thing. Next he'll tackle the Patriot Act. And you are going to pay less in taxes if you make less than 200k.

Yes we need to support him ... but we need to be vigilant and keep in contact with our Representatives to make sure too much time doesn't get in the way of the change we need.

[Kludge]

When are people going to realize that NONE of these corporate media whores are on our side.

Heeey... Tucker hasn't let us down yet! Nor has Napolitano!


Oh.... Right... -- and Stossel!

[pacelli]

Glenn Beck is right. Obama is the next President and there is no point in attacking him until he actually does something wrong. If you listened to what he said you would know that he said we need to unite because this country has serious problems that need to be addressed. He also said that he would stand in opposition to Obama if (when) it becomes necessary. He never said that we need to help Obama push through his Marxist agenda. We don't even know if Obama will even be a radical leftist yet (I'll place bets though).

Unfortunately many people here think that unless someone is pushing a pure libertarian agenda they need to be destroyed. Lets wait and see what Obama does. If he's only as bad as Clinton then we will survive.

The problem is that if/when it becomes necessary to stand in opposition to Obama, it will be too late to do so without consequences.

[ehidle]

When are people going to realize that NONE of these corporate media whores are on our side.

Absolutely correct. Michael Smerconish endorsed Obama proudly on his radio show serving greater Philadelphia. I don't think PA would have gone McCain had he not, but still, for someone to claim to be all about the principles of the founder to come out and worship the New Messiah is just proof that these media whores are just that.

Now is not the time to fall in line and cooperate with the coordinated financial, social, and political raping of the American People. Now is the time to resist as strongly as possible the radical and immoral ideals of this new leftist regime.

When Hugo Chavez came to power, the people loved him. He was their Obama. He was going to make everything better. Do you know what Venezuelans are saying now? "WTF?!?!"

What we have here is no different. We have a marxist social party taking over the United States, promising everything will be better. Once the government owns all of the banks (which is well on its way to happening), and own the rest of the means of production, it will be all over.

[Pete]

Totally agreed, Ehidle. Welcome to the forum! :)

I think it is wrong to smear and condemn a person any time, and that we will win more hearts and minds sticking to the issues rather than speculating on what BO's unstated objectives are, or predicting what he will fail at.

For example, the 'Not my President' T-shirts are a little OTT and hostile to be used at this time, in my opinion. However, there is still plenty of grist for the mill in criticizing his staff and Cabinet appointments based on their records, and arguing against planks in his campaign that are unconstitutional.

There is no way I'm going to go along with such things as his national service bondage 'just to see if it works'.

[angelatc]

seems glenn has changed his opinion real quick like since signing with the White House Chan...i mean FOX News Channel.

Excellent point. It is the neoconservative philosophy. There's no real reason for the neocons *not* to support Obama.

[literatim]

Glenn Beck has always been a tool.

[LibertyEagle]

Liberty is a bit of a land mine around here because of the conspiracy theories running rampant. Let's just say that nobody would have done Liberty like Ron Paul. That said, there are some harsh political realities in the world that are not easy choices. Barack will get us out of Iraq. Not easy. Barack will win the war with the Taliban. Not easy considering it was equated in the minds of EVERYONE with "The War On Terror" (which we all know its not). But one has to get elected to change anything.


You are in dreamland. Obama MAY get us partially out of Iraq in a year or more, but even then, he will leave a huge military presence there at the many bases built in Iraq. Obama WILL get us into another war. Count on it.

Nor will he bring our troops home from the over 130 countries in which we now have a military presence.


The biggest drain on us financially is all the war. Common sense would have been to raise taxes. Bush did not and that is one time NOT raising taxes hurt us. Normally I'm against taxes! But Bush made right wrong, left right, and up down. We have to turn it all around. Still! Obama is cutting taxes.

No, the responsible thing to do would have been not to attack a country which had nothing to do with 9-11.


You are pissed because Obama won't kill the FED. Won't kill the IRS. Won't kill the Pentagon Budget. No responsible president would do that in these times. Ron Paul's proposed changes wouldn't even begin to take effect while in his first term! But you expect MORE from Barack?

Obama does not recognize the need to cut back the size of the federal government to its Constitutional level. Nor does he recognize the role the Federal Reserve has in our economic turmoil. If one does not even recognize the problems, they sure as hell are not going to fix them.


Barack is an establishment guy. There's no doubting it. That doesn't make him evil, it just makes him NOT JESUS. Well guess what? Ron is not establishment and he's still NOT JESUS so get over it. These are problems that only a down and dirty politician can solve. I certainly would not want to have that stupid job. You couldn't pay me enough! I still can't figure out why Ron wanted that dirty job. Anyway, Barack is going to bring back your Liberty that Bush stole from you with all those signing statements first thing. Next he'll tackle the Patriot Act. And you are going to pay less in taxes if you make less than 200k.

You are also in dreamland that Obama will return our liberty. Obama VOTED to REAUTHORIZE THE PATRIOT ACT. Why on earth do you think he will try to get it rescinded? The Dems had control of the Congress for the last 2 years. Did you notice them rescinding the Patriot Acts, or the Military Commission Act, or anything else for that matter? Hell no, you didn't. The wonderful Democratic Congress also passed a resolution for IRAN to hand the power over to the President to bomb the crap out of them at his whim, JUST LIKE THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE WITH IRAQ.

So, suffice it to say, I think you have your head in the clouds to believe that Barack "The One" Obama will do anything to return our liberty to us. Actually, if one really listens to what he has been saying, we will lose many more liberties.


Yes we need to support him ... but we need to be vigilant and keep in contact with our Representatives to make sure too much time doesn't get in the way of the change we need.

:rolleyes:

YOU need to go check your facts and pull your head out ....................

[Crash Martinez]

Thanks Liberty Eagle!

You know, some of you people are really baffling me right now. I mean, you've gotta be kidding me!!

I've long suspected that the Cuban government might be hiding the fact that Fidel Castro has been dead for a couple years now (just conjecture) ...but now I have proof, since we've just elected his reincarnation to the Presidency!!! :D

Seriously... Of the crimes of statism, collectivism, armed robbery, murder, negligence, and corruption, all politicians should be considered guilty until proven innocent. 'Cuz I'll be damned if I’m one of the people who gave Stalin the benefit of the doubt.

[FindLiberty]

Relax, There is still a posibility we won't have to watch GB kiss BO's hand...

Ron Paul can still become POTUS after the EC votes for him on 12/15/08.

[LibertyEagle]

Ron Paul can still become POTUS after the EC votes for him on 12/15/08.

What?!! :eek::rolleyes:

[acptulsa]

'Unite with Obama'?

Is that another way to say, 'Bend over'?

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

Seems to me, that railing immediately about Obama, on the day after his election, would be percieved as ranting, and the ranter will lose credibility. Everyone will just say "Obama is now EVERYONE's president, let's hope he does good for the country".

After he is in office, THEN is the time attack his socialist policies, or his interventionism. And then your attacks seem more credible, with the perception that you gave him a chance.

[Matt23]

He's only going soft to watch his own back, he has to when the dems want to implement the fairness doctrine. He made sure he pushed it hard before Obama got elected so when he is president he wouldint have to emphasize it that much.

[Crash Martinez]

Seems to me, that railing immediately about Obama, on the day after his election, would be percieved as ranting, and the ranter will lose credibility. Everyone will just say "Obama is now EVERYONE's president, let's hope he does good for the country".

After he is in office, THEN is the time attack his socialist policies, or his interventionism. And then your attacks seem more credible, with the perception that you gave him a chance.

I don't give a crap about anybody's perceptions of me anymore... (with respect to this sort of thing, I should say.) If anybody hasn't seen by now that Obama is a radical communist, I'm not going to waste my time trying to find the "tact" or whatever else to convince them.

I'm sick of this. It's not audacity of hope time. It's duck and cover time.

[CUnknown]

We have one party rule in this country and the talking heads know it. Unite with Obama, because he is the leader of the one party. It's like Hillary Clinton talking about uniting with Obama and healing after she lost the primary.

[RonPaulR3VOLUTION]

1. Obama has already committed many crimes. What is there to wait for? Is his slate magically wiped clean because he is going to be the President? :rolleyes:

2. Obama is in almost complete opposition to peace, so there is no point in bringing up that deception-based view. :rolleyes:

Israel's military action last year "was entirely justified," Obama said, to knock out Syria's "weapons of mass destruction" program. "The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat," he added.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060403508.html

Obama's Promise Of More War
American liberals can't quite face the fact that if their man does win in November, and if he has meant a single serious word he's ever said, it means more war, and more bitter and protracted war at that -- not less.
http://www.slate.com/id/2200134

Obama: Expand the wars -- starting with Pakistan
"The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."
"So the second step in my strategy will be to build our capacity and our partnerships to track down, capture or kill terrorists around the world."
"... take down terrorist networks from the remote islands of Indonesia, to the sprawling cities of Africa."
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php

And et cetera...

In summary, Obama is opposed to freedom, Obama is opposed to non-interventionist foreign policy, and Glenn Beck has, beyond all doubt, exposed himself as a complete fraud*.

* Assuming he sincerely believes what is claimed.

[Theocrat]

Glenn Beck is on right now saying, "we need to unite with Obama. This nation needs to heal. He is my president for the next 4 years." Also, "stop with the birth certificate thing...the courts have already 'looked into it.'"

"YouTube, or it didn't happen." :D

[BlackTerrel]

Wait, you agree with him WHERE?

...on uniting with Obama?? (btw were those really his words??)

He's your president now, so live with it. Just like you lived with your past 40 some white Presidents. I didn't vote for Bush but he was my Prez and I lived with it.

[allyinoh]

He's your president now, so live with it. Just like you lived with your past 40 some white Presidents. I didn't vote for Bush but he was my Prez and I lived with it.

Hey if we survived Clinton and Bush we can survive Obama. I don't like Obama (and it has nothing to do with race) but we'll give him a chance and see if he can do any better than Bush.

It's just a little scary since Obama is as far left as you could possibly go, and he never really has said what his plans were to change things. He just always threw out the "change" and "hope" catch phrases and open ended statements. We'll see though.

[Athan]

Wait... we are supposed to unite with a dumbass AGAIN GLENN? Obama has no fucking clue how to solve this meltdown so go fuck yourself son. Fool me once (etc)

[nodope0695]

http://www.turboconnection.com/images/picard.jpg
"Ah, sheesh, Glenn."


http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd57/martinhimself/Funny%20Pics/picard_finger.jpg
"Shut the fuck up!"

[nodope0695]

+1 LibertyEagle.

I'm tellin' ya, the liberal shills are here, and they will continue to be spokesmouths for Obama...

[Lucille]

I prefer the long-range torpedo plans (http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20191232&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8) myself:


*Appoint U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois Patrick Fitzpatrick as a special prosecutor so he can pursue his investigation of Tony Rezko and his corrupt dealings with Illinois's governor and other creatures and spoilsmen of the Daley Machine. This will make it politically difficult for a President Obama to pardon Mr. Rezko and impossible for him to terminate Mr. Fitzpatrick as a federal officer come January 21 as a way of de-railing this investigation.

* Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate ACORN's voter registration methods and its dealings with the Obama campaign.

* Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Obama campaign's on-line fundraising operation, including its disabling of the credit card security software on its on-line donations system. File a complaint with the Federal Election Commission regarding same.

* Appoint a bipartisan (love that word!) presidential commission to review the candidates' fundraising in this election cycle and to recommend changes in federal election laws.

File ethics complaints against Sen. Chris Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank for their relationship with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Countrywide Mortgage.

Be it noted that, in his day, this is probably what Newt Gingrich would have done, too. It was then-Congressman Gingrich's persistent filing of ethics complaints against then-House Speaker Jim Wright, D Texas, which eventually brought Speaker Wright down and made possible the Republicans' re-taking of Congress in 1994 on the platform of the Contract with America.

[Lucille]

File ethics complaints against Sen. Chris Dodd

Breaking:

Prosecutors look at Countrywide VIP loans (http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/articles/index.cfm?id=17895&section=News)


A federal criminal investigation into possible wrongdoing by mortgage giant Countrywide Home Loans now includes scrutiny of Countrywide’s VIP program that gave special mortgage deals to government officials including Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., and Chris Dodd, D-Conn.

[mkiv808]

If you truly believe in libertarian ideals, you will see that Obama will be worse than Bush.

[Conservative Christian]

He's your president now, so live with it. Just like you lived with your past 40 some white Presidents. I didn't vote for Bush but he was my Prez and I lived with it.

Race has nothing to do with it.

I've spoken out many times against Bush's many anti-liberty policies, and I will speak out against Obama's upcoming anti-liberty policies.

My God-given rights aren't negotiable. I'll defend them vigorously, and have no intention of "living with" any attacks on them, regardless of who's making those attacks.

[Conservative Christian]

If you truly believe in libertarian ideals, you will see that Obama will be worse than Bush.

That's debatable.

Bush is a socialist trojan horse in the conservative movement. Many mainstream conservatives and Christians were fooled into believing that he was one of them. They thought "all is well" in Washington with "one of their own" there.

So they let down their guard and were oblivious to his many anti-liberty policies. On the rare occasion they realized he had done something wrong, they would merely shrug their shoulders and bray something simplistic like "Everybody makes a mistake. At least he's not a Democrat!"

They would even stoop so low as to defend his anti-liberty policies, often resorting to the most pathetic excuses, simply because they viewed him as one of their own.

A trojan horse "within the gates" is more dangerous than a known enemy outside the gates.

If there's one good thing about an Obama win, it's that the mainstream conservatives, Republicans and Christians who were put to sleep by Bush, have now been given a very loud wakeup call.

They view Obama as a political "enemy", and will once again start acting like genuine conservatives, instead of being Bush shills. They will unite to oppose Obama's socialist policies, whereas they previously were either oblivious to or gave a "pass" to Bush's socialist policies.