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Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 10:23 AM
Somber Republicans contemplate what went wrong (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736)

Open Comment section on article Here (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/comment_article.php?ID=12736&PHPSESSID=c85d0e71df351678db4e1c914f896aa3)

By: Jay Basile

Aside from the drunken slurs and grumbling following the announcement that Barack Obama was the president-elect, discussion revolved around the simple question: What went wrong?

"There has been a swing in the political pendulum," said Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons. "Both parties were seeking a win and both worked very hard, but the people have spoken."

And spoken they have, as Obama won both the electoral and the popular vote.

Some attribute Obama's success to the fact that he can relate so well to young people.

"He is a very energetic and dynamic speaker," said Nevada Assemblyman John Hambrick. "That's what the Republican Party needs more of."

In addition, some feel that the Republicans have drifted away from not only their policies, but from one another.

"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.

"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.

"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is."

Despite the upset, some Republicans seem to be in high spirits and remain optimistic about their party and the state of Nevada.

"Nevada's brightest days are ahead of her," Gibbons said. "Currently renewable energy is our biggest portfolio right now. It would create tons of jobs and would remain 'recession proof.'"

Hambrick also had hope for Nevada, and the party's future.

"It's the nature of not only myself, but of all Republicans to remain optimistic. We don't run when things get tough," Hambrick said.

"We put the thinking caps on and try to find ways to better the party and the state."

Xenophage
11-06-2008, 10:25 AM
Lol

SnappleLlama
11-06-2008, 10:27 AM
They can go f*ck themselves. Ron Paul has inspired many. They can blame themselves for the loss.

steph3n
11-06-2008, 10:28 AM
they need to cut the 'they hate us for our freedom' "bullshit" if they want to get re-elected

pacelli
11-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Let's cut the bullshit and tell it how it really is.

The approximate combined total of third party & write-in voters during the general election was ~1.5 million people.

The total votes that Ron Paul got during the primaries was ~1.3 million people.

Obama got approximately 62 million votes.

McCain got approximately 55 million votes.

1,500,000 + 1,300,000 + 55 million = 57,800,000 votes.

Even if all 1.5 million third party voters & all Ron Paul voters put their votes behind McCain in the general, he still would have been approximately 4,200,000 short of beating Obama.

Cleaner44
11-06-2008, 10:32 AM
"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.

"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is."

If the Revolution had done nothing more than instill a sense of distrust then I consider this movement a success.

Republicans should stick to their policies, our frustration is that they haven't. Republicans have become a party of BIG GOVT, BIG DEFICITS, BIG DEBT, BIG BAILOUTS and WAR.

When Republicans cut their bullshit and return to being conservative like Ron Paul, then they can return to power. Thats's how it is bitch!

Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 10:32 AM
Lisa Marie Johnson - delegate that voted McCain so she could "fight another day"

This is one of the RP delegates that "crimped and folded" at the RNC.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=154109

HOLLYWOOD
11-06-2008, 10:33 AM
Hey made UNLV's "The Rebel Yell" NEWS! Ron Paul blamed for NVGOP NEOCON ignorance.

Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson is just like Sue Lawson... WORTHLESS NVGOP NEOCON IGNORANT FOSSIL!

http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736 (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736)
http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/images/photos/full/0b93df4ccb8dc2d66c9ba0185e39a7ff.jpg

Vet_from_cali
11-06-2008, 10:37 AM
its what they deserve for nominating McCain. lol, they really believed he was going to win?! Ron Paul was the best choice by far, they got noone to blame but themselves.

Lucille
11-06-2008, 10:39 AM
In addition, some feel that the Republicans have drifted away from not only their policies, but from one another.

"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.

"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.

"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is."

That is a laugh riot. Ron Paul was the only R hopeful who stuck to conservative principles, who told the "kids how it is" and who drew young people to support his campaign and true conservatism.

McCain lost all by his lonesome, mostly because he wasn't conservative.

angelatc
11-06-2008, 10:40 AM
"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.

"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

Oh my god. Says a party hack that did everything they could legally do to change the rules as they went along just to suit their agenda.

If she wants trust, she should have earned it.

We stole "your" young people - na na na na na na!

Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 10:41 AM
Oh my god. Says a party hack that did everything they could legally do to change the rules as they went along just to suit their agenda.

If she wants trust, she should have earned it.

We stole "your" young people - na na na na na na!

All Your Young Peoples Are Belong To Us:D

angelatc
11-06-2008, 10:41 AM
Hey made UNLV's "The Rebel Yell" NEWS! Ron Paul blamed for NVGOP NEOCON ignorance.

Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson is just like Sue Lawson... WORTHLESS NVGOP NEOCON IGNORANT FOSSIL!

http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736 (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736)
http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/images/photos/full/0b93df4ccb8dc2d66c9ba0185e39a7ff.jpg

Is that her??? What the hell is she wearing? All she needs is a big red nose and a horn and she could be the official GOP clown!

HOLLYWOOD
11-06-2008, 10:44 AM
That is a laugh riot. Ron Paul was the only R hopeful who stuck to conservative principles, who told the "kids how it is" and who drew young people to support his campaign and true conservatism.

McCain lost all by his lonesome, mostly because he wasn't conservative.

McCain didn't even show-up during the POTUS campaign!

Obamawitz did like a dozen visits...

NVGOP didn't raise any money... not because of lack of donations... NO ONE WANTED McCAIN!

I see the NVGOP and their Fossil Minion republicans continue their lies... so the BULLSHYT continues throughout republican Nevada.

JohnJay
11-06-2008, 10:51 AM
Well, pat ourselves on the back if that was true -
McCain's "quasi-liberal" pandering, defacto amnesty plan, ignorance about the economy, bizarro behavior ("I'm off to save the country") , and the VP Palin pick had nothing to do with it.

If the neo-cons do not want to heed the warning of Ike in his 1961 Farewell Address to the Nation . . .

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex.
The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

-- Dwight D. Eisenhower

. . . then we will just have to keep reminding them.

Ninja Homer
11-06-2008, 10:55 AM
There's a lot I could say about this, but instead I'll just point my finger at them and say... HA HA!!!

bojo68
11-06-2008, 10:57 AM
Is it just me, or is it beyond belief that any allegedly human could blame somebody else for "putting a sense of distrust" in the young, and in the next sentence say they have to "cut the bullshit"?? Anybody that would believe that moron deserves what they get.

angelatc
11-06-2008, 11:00 AM
Is it just me, or is it beyond belief that any allegedly human could blame somebody else for "putting a sense of distrust" in the young, and in the next sentence say they have to "cut the bullshit"?? Anybody that would believe that moron deserves what they get.

For those of you just joining us, Nevada is the place where the GOP shut down the caucuses rather than let the Ron Paul people have votes.

And then it got worse!

HOLLYWOOD
11-06-2008, 11:00 AM
Is that her??? What the hell is she wearing? All she needs is a big red nose and a horn and she could be the official GOP clown!

Funny, a Clown Suit dyed Black!

here's Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson bio link:

maybe she should spend less time at the donut shop.

http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=106893 (http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=106893)

http://www.votesmart.org/canphoto/106893.jpg

angelatc
11-06-2008, 11:16 AM
Funny, a Clown Suit dyed Black!

here's a bio link:

http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=106893 (http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=106893)

]

I keep looking at that thinking "How the hell could somebody put that on and think 'Damn! I look good,' ?"

(Well, that sucked to punctuate! I wonder what the correct way is?)

Carole
11-06-2008, 11:39 AM
I think we all know where the fault lies in the GOP's losing.

However, if these GOP hacks think Dr. Ron Paul is this powerful, perhaps they should grab him and hold onto him and make him their leader. LOL :D

BTW GOP, along with all the great, truthful comments responding to that article, a simple sense of principles and personal responsibility to the Republican philosophy, as well as adhering to the Constitution would go a long way toward solving your problems.

Hilarious article though. :D
:D:D

brandon
11-06-2008, 11:43 AM
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

I think this is the part where we win.

We didn't win what we set out to win, but it is a victory nonetheless.

Fuck you Nevada GOP!!

wizardwatson
11-06-2008, 11:57 AM
The article just shows the ignorance that comes from believing in party politics and its ability to change anything.

Sorry to break up your collectivist, brainwashed, corrupted, follow-the-leader, state-worshipping, criminal enterprise. Please send us a bill, and we will deduct it from all the damage you have done to freedom and liberty over the years since the civil war.

I'm tired of all the claptrap from these adolescent boot-lickers.

Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 12:27 PM
the article just shows the ignorance that comes from believing in party politics and its ability to change anything.

Sorry to break up your collectivist, brainwashed, corrupted, follow-the-leader, state-worshipping, criminal enterprise. Please send us a bill, and we will deduct it from all the damage you have done to freedom and liberty over the years since the civil war.

I'm tired of all the claptrap from these adolescent boot-lickers.

+1

ww ftw!

dannno
11-06-2008, 12:30 PM
Morons!!

JaylieWoW
11-06-2008, 12:32 PM
These asshats need to start listening to those in the Republican party who are now speaking out about how the Republican Party lost its way.

I have heard interview after interview after interview where Democrat AND Republican "experts" all agree that this victory was NOT a victory for the Democratic party. This victory was complete and TOTAL repudiation of what the Republican party has now become.

I had an idea about a video that would show that not only was Ron Paul right about the economy and everything else he's spoken of but also that he was right about the direction the party had taken. I heard one Republican pundit say almost word for word what Ron Paul said in one of the debates where he was accused of being "out of step" with the party. I'll find the YouTube and post the link. The Ron Paul bumper stickers need to read...

Ron Paul was right, Right and RIGHT!

Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 12:35 PM
There's a lot I could say about this, but instead I'll just point my finger at them and say... HA HA!!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2302/2510825375_176f1608a0_m.jpg

JaylieWoW
11-06-2008, 12:38 PM
Here is one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hfa7vT02lA

I can't remember which of the other debates it was... help help!

Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 12:40 PM
Ron Paul vs. Mike Huckabee on Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK1Gyb6ra0

Mani
11-06-2008, 12:41 PM
If the Revolution had done nothing more than instill a sense of distrust then I consider this movement a success.

Republicans should stick to their policies, our frustration is that they haven't. Republicans have become a party of BIG GOVT, BIG DEFICITS, BIG DEBT, BIG BAILOUTS and WAR.

When Republicans cut their bullshit and return to being conservative like Ron Paul, then they can return to power. Thats's how it is bitch!

QFT!

They still don't get it, THEIR POLICIES ARE SHIT! And Ron Paul simply pointed it out. DumbFucks.

Flash
11-06-2008, 12:59 PM
Protecting Israel. Dats true conservatiff values. god save the jews! Wheres my beer.

RP4EVER
11-06-2008, 02:18 PM
I have spoken to one of the Nevada Patriots and have been assured that this article is completely untrue.

First off Lisa Marie is not an assemblywoman; she was a candidate and she lost.

mrwiizrd
11-06-2008, 02:25 PM
I have spoken to one of the Nevada Patriots and have been assured that this article is completely untrue.

First off Lisa Marie is not an assemblywoman; she was a candidate and she lost.

She posted some comments of her own, got to love politics, one never knows who to believe:

http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/comment_article.php?ID=12736&PHPSESSID=c85d0e71df351678db4e1c914f896aa3

pauletteNV
11-06-2008, 02:33 PM
Much of the support Obama received was also from young people. Ron Paul, had he been given proper support and coverage from the RNC and the media instead of marginalization and worse (name calling), would have been a threat to the Democrats. A couple of candidates, including Bob Beers, paid the price. Too bad...they could have behaved like real conservatives and helped to save the RNC. Sometimes, it is rewarding to be able to say, to someone like Bob Beers "I told you so." Again, I would like to salute the young people that Ron Paul so rightly reached out to...you are the ones who must carry the banner.

TruthAtLast
11-06-2008, 02:39 PM
so let me get this straight.

They got their asses handed to them and in stead of saying "hey maybe our platform is really not what conservative Republicans want" their solution is "we need to do a better job of brainwashing people and forcing the kids to see it our way".

RP4EVER
11-06-2008, 02:43 PM
wait.....Beers lost?

JosephTheLibertarian
11-06-2008, 02:45 PM
Somber Republicans contemplate what went wrong (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736)

Open Comment section on article Here (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/comment_article.php?ID=12736&PHPSESSID=c85d0e71df351678db4e1c914f896aa3)

By: Jay Basile

Aside from the drunken slurs and grumbling following the announcement that Barack Obama was the president-elect, discussion revolved around the simple question: What went wrong?

"There has been a swing in the political pendulum," said Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons. "Both parties were seeking a win and both worked very hard, but the people have spoken."

And spoken they have, as Obama won both the electoral and the popular vote.

Some attribute Obama's success to the fact that he can relate so well to young people.

"He is a very energetic and dynamic speaker," said Nevada Assemblyman John Hambrick. "That's what the Republican Party needs more of."

In addition, some feel that the Republicans have drifted away from not only their policies, but from one another.

"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.

"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.

"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is."

Despite the upset, some Republicans seem to be in high spirits and remain optimistic about their party and the state of Nevada.

"Nevada's brightest days are ahead of her," Gibbons said. "Currently renewable energy is our biggest portfolio right now. It would create tons of jobs and would remain 'recession proof.'"

Hambrick also had hope for Nevada, and the party's future.

"It's the nature of not only myself, but of all Republicans to remain optimistic. We don't run when things get tough," Hambrick said.

"We put the thinking caps on and try to find ways to better the party and the state."

Negative attention is better than no attention. ;) I disagree with that wench though. They lost because they sucked. No substance, supporting an unpopular war, you know, the usual.

bojo68
11-06-2008, 02:54 PM
Ron Paul vs. Mike Huckabee on Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK1Gyb6ra0

Huckabe is giving even Guiliani a run for top moron status in that one.

surf
11-06-2008, 03:04 PM
take it easy everyone -

By: LisaMarie Johnson: 11:09am, November 6, 2008


HOLD YOUR HORSES. I never said the things this writer claims I said. In fact, I said the opposite - that the party was divided because they ignored the Ron Paul supporters and kept out hard working conservatives. That the huge losses we saw across the nation including the white house were precisely because the party lost its way and needed to return to its conservative roots and the will of the people. I also commented that it was time to draw in the youth whose rebel spirit could relate to the founding fathers. This goes to show that all media is corrupt.


By: LisaMarie Johnson: 11:12am, November 6, 2008


Also, I was seated at the convention in place of another Ron Paul supporte who had already voted. All I did was uphold his decision. If you have questions, please call me at 413-2415

gls
11-06-2008, 03:07 PM
She posted some comments of her own, got to love politics, one never knows who to believe:

http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/comment_article.php?ID=12736&PHPSESSID=c85d0e71df351678db4e1c914f896aa3

If this is true, and she's not just doing some serious backpedaling, this "newspaper" got it really wrong. I'd demand a retraction if I were her.


HOLD YOUR HORSES. I never said the things this writer claims I said. In fact, I said the opposite - that the party was divided because they ignored the Ron Paul supporters and kept out hard working conservatives. That the huge losses we saw across the nation including the white house were precisely because the party lost its way and needed to return to its conservative roots and the will of the people. I also commented that it was time to draw in the youth whose rebel spirit could relate to the founding fathers. This goes to show that all media is corrupt.

Mini-Me
11-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Somber Republicans contemplate what went wrong (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736)

Open Comment section on article Here (http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/comment_article.php?ID=12736&PHPSESSID=c85d0e71df351678db4e1c914f896aa3)

By: Jay Basile

Aside from the drunken slurs and grumbling following the announcement that Barack Obama was the president-elect, discussion revolved around the simple question: What went wrong?

"There has been a swing in the political pendulum," said Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons. "Both parties were seeking a win and both worked very hard, but the people have spoken."

And spoken they have, as Obama won both the electoral and the popular vote.

Some attribute Obama's success to the fact that he can relate so well to young people.

"He is a very energetic and dynamic speaker," said Nevada Assemblyman John Hambrick. "That's what the Republican Party needs more of."

In addition, some feel that the Republicans have drifted away from not only their policies, but from one another.

"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.

"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.

"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is."

Despite the upset, some Republicans seem to be in high spirits and remain optimistic about their party and the state of Nevada.

"Nevada's brightest days are ahead of her," Gibbons said. "Currently renewable energy is our biggest portfolio right now. It would create tons of jobs and would remain 'recession proof.'"

Hambrick also had hope for Nevada, and the party's future.

"It's the nature of not only myself, but of all Republicans to remain optimistic. We don't run when things get tough," Hambrick said.

"We put the thinking caps on and try to find ways to better the party and the state."

Awfully defensive, aren't they? I love their authoritarian rhetoric, "We also need to cut the bullshit and tell these kids how it is." OH, REALLY?
It's nice that she's at least saying the media misquoted her, though. Whether it's true or she's just backpedaling and realizing she made a mistake, both are improvements.

jonahtrainer
11-06-2008, 03:38 PM
[url="http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=12736"]In addition, some feel that the Republicans have drifted away from not only their policies, but from one another.

"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.

"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.

"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is."

No kidding! The Republican party is a bunch of untrustworthy liars, crooks, thieves and murdering genocidal maniacs. There is NO reason to trust them or any government official. The two parties are two wings on the same bird.

TruthAtLast
11-06-2008, 04:00 PM
So, is this true? Hard to know who is an ally or an enemy these days.


By: LisaMarie Johnson: 11:09am, November 6, 2008


HOLD YOUR HORSES. I never said the things this writer claims I said. In fact, I said the opposite - that the party was divided because they ignored the Ron Paul supporters and kept out hard working conservatives. That the huge losses we saw across the nation including the white house were precisely because the party lost its way and needed to return to its conservative roots and the will of the people. I also commented that it was time to draw in the youth whose rebel spirit could relate to the founding fathers. This goes to show that all media is corrupt.


By: LisaMarie Johnson: 11:12am, November 6, 2008


Also, I was seated at the convention in place of another Ron Paul supporte who had already voted. All I did was uphold his decision. If you have questions, please call me at 413-2415

Pennsylvania
11-06-2008, 04:03 PM
If that post is true she ought to be sueing.

HOLLYWOOD
11-06-2008, 05:50 PM
No kidding! The Republican party is a bunch of untrustworthy liars, crooks, thieves and murdering genocidal maniacs. There is NO reason to trust them or any government official. The two parties are two wings on the same bird.

Glad to see you realize the realm of the GOP...


Welcome... to the REAL WORLD NEO!

rodo1776
11-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Yeah Bob Beers our good friend. Looks like he lost by 3,000 votes.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/elections/2008/nov/04/races/

That is what you get for fucking us over slimeball. Send him a note folks.

And check out his blog (where you can email him)

http://http://www.beers4nevada.org/wordpress/

He is a big cry baby and suing the person who beat him.

WAH WAH WAH tough shit

dr. hfn
11-06-2008, 06:30 PM
die GOP die! your like a damn roach infestation!

VegasAmerican
11-06-2008, 11:12 PM
...it would take a long time and a ton of money to sue everyone who's said false things about me. Unfortunately, the Ron Paul people have told harsher lies than the press. Facts have been distorted and partial truths evolved into ridiculous statements like the game of telephone when you were a kid. It feels worse when coming from people who stick to their principles, than those who don't. Whether it's me or someone else, stick together when they try to divide, rather than turn on each other. Don't automatically believe what they say. If you doubt one of your own, call 'em up and ask for the truth one on one. They want to divide you, do not let that happen. Regardless, I still believe in the ideals our country was built on. I wish I could say the same for the party leadership. However, the Republican party is the largest PAC for conservatives and the only one with the means to get people elected to high offices consistently. We need to remain in the party even when they don't want us there. Show up even when they don't tell us about meetings. Stay informed. Get involved. Speak out.

Love & Liberty,
:) LisaMarie

Anti Federalist
11-06-2008, 11:32 PM
...it would take a long time and a ton of money to sue everyone who's said false things about me. Unfortunately, the Ron Paul people have told harsher lies than the press. Facts have been distorted and partial truths evolved into ridiculous statements like the game of telephone when you were a kid. It feels worse when coming from people who stick to their principles, than those who don't. Whether it's me or someone else, stick together when they try to divide, rather than turn on each other. Don't automatically believe what they say. If you doubt one of your own, call 'em up and ask for the truth one on one. They want to divide you, do not let that happen. Regardless, I still believe in the ideals our country was built on. I wish I could say the same for the party leadership. However, the Republican party is the largest PAC for conservatives and the only one with the means to get people elected to high offices consistently. We need to remain in the party even when they don't want us there. Show up even when they don't tell us about meetings. Stay informed. Get involved. Speak out.

Love & Liberty,
:) LisaMarie

Lisa,

I put this story up as written.

Just to be clear, this is quoted as you:

"He (Ron Paul) damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."

Now, you are saying this is a complete fabrication and distortion of what you said, correct?

You never meant to be quoted that way, you don't in any way think that, and reject the premise, correct?

Also, I tried to find a contact number or email to confirm this, but wasn't able to and have been busy all day.

RSLudlum
11-06-2008, 11:38 PM
Before 'they' even start thinking about policies and convincing people, they need to figure out their damn principles!! Then they won't have to "bullshit" so much.

HOLLYWOOD
11-07-2008, 12:10 AM
Here's the coverage of the GOP losing in Nevada.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/nov/05/two-gop-pillars-state-senate-felled/

one thing... Congressman Dean Heller survived, Why? Because he voted NO on the BAILOUTS and he has admitted that northern Nevada is Ron Paul territory.

Dean is a smart politican... Bob Beers, and the rest, are just NEOCON, lying, corrupt, party before people = fools.

Now the NVGOP are paying the price, for paying all their attention... to themselves!

ValidusCustodiae
11-07-2008, 04:57 AM
They're angry at Ron Paul because they LOVE war and the killing of innocents.

Badger Paul
11-07-2008, 12:28 PM
If Mr. Beers had been a little more fair, a little nicer to our supporters, then maybe he would not have suffered this fate.

This, my friends, is power in action. And Mr. Beers and the Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. Either they accept Paul supporters or they will be a permanent minority in Nevada.

HOLLYWOOD
11-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Yeah Bob Beers our good friend. Looks like he lost by 3,000 votes.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/elections/2008/nov/04/races/

That is what you get for fucking us over slimeball. Send him a note folks.

And check out his blog (where you can email him)

http://http://www.beers4nevada.org/wordpress/

He is a big cry baby and suing the person who beat him.

WAH WAH WAH tough shit

Well we should ALL congratulate Bob Beers on his Lying, 2 face, conspiring, NEOCON crook that he truly represents in nevada.

A nice spicey one!!!
http://carryabigsticker.com/images/obamas_soup300.gif

VegasAmerican
11-07-2008, 03:19 PM
Now, you are saying this is a complete fabrication and distortion of what you said, correct?

You never meant to be quoted that way, you don't in any way think that, and reject the premise, correct?

Also, I tried to find a contact number or email to confirm this, but wasn't able to and have been busy all day.

Absolutely not me. It isn't even that I didn't mean to be quoted that way. I flat out never said such things and would never. I am constantly sticking up for Paul people here locally. I am VERY verbal about how they are treated.

In discussion last night, we determined that he either put the wrong name on it or someone said it and gave my name. Several people also commented that I was drinking, but in fact, I rarely drink 1 drink and certainly don't get to slurring as was insinuated. I actually suspect I know who said it, because a supposed Paul sympathizer came up to me and slurring, told me it was Ron Paul's fault for dividing the party. Sounds too familiar.

Also, I was not elected unfortunately. They had that wrong too. In any case, I contacted the editor for a retraction, but have had ZERO response.

Do not allow anyone to divide and conquer.

My email address is lisamarie@vegasamerican.com and my phone number is 702-413-2415. Please feel free to call me. I have nothing to hide and the truth on my side.

Love & Liberty,
LisaMarie

Dianne
11-07-2008, 07:33 PM
Well I just sent an e mail to her and said real republicans just cut the bulls--t and told her and the other phoney republicans where we are..........

PatriotOne
11-07-2008, 08:22 PM
"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."



ROLF. There are so many things wrong this sentence i don't even know where to start. I suppose it is self evident on this board so I won't even bother :D

Anti Federalist
11-07-2008, 08:27 PM
Absolutely not me. It isn't even that I didn't mean to be quoted that way. I flat out never said such things and would never. I am constantly sticking up for Paul people here locally. I am VERY verbal about how they are treated.

In discussion last night, we determined that he either put the wrong name on it or someone said it and gave my name. Several people also commented that I was drinking, but in fact, I rarely drink 1 drink and certainly don't get to slurring as was insinuated. I actually suspect I know who said it, because a supposed Paul sympathizer came up to me and slurring, told me it was Ron Paul's fault for dividing the party. Sounds too familiar.

Also, I was not elected unfortunately. They had that wrong too. In any case, I contacted the editor for a retraction, but have had ZERO response.

Do not allow anyone to divide and conquer.

My email address is lisamarie@vegasamerican.com and my phone number is 702-413-2415. Please feel free to call me. I have nothing to hide and the truth on my side.

Love & Liberty,
LisaMarie

No need to.

Fair enough, I'll chalk it up to journalistic incompetence and leave it at that.

Appreciate the reply.

AF

Theocrat
11-07-2008, 08:33 PM
The Republican Party has no one to blame but itself. If anything, they should've listened to Dr. Paul when he told them they would lose more elections this year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK1Gyb6ra0) if they didn't turn back to their principles, especially on foreign policy.

The Nevada GOP is just a sore loser. They deserved to lose, especially after all the drama they put Ron Paul supporters in their state through during the Primary election.

FindLiberty
11-07-2008, 09:07 PM
The Republican Party has no one to blame but itself. If anything, they should've listened to Dr. Paul...The Nevada GOP is just a sore loser. They deserved to lose, especially after all the drama they put Ron Paul supporters in their state through during the Primary election.

Yep,

I think there are many reasons the GOP lost BIG TIME this time.

Imagine a young voter hearing this:

My fellow prisoners, Ron Paul talks about freedom this and freedom that. Well, as you already know, that's just not how it works with the GOP. Don't let anyone distract you from our true mission, our eternal quest for more power, regulation, endless war and higher taxes. We still have a job to do, and that job is just not gonna' get done now without the glorious leadership of the Republican Party. We've had the majority vote in both houses of congress and the presidency for eight years and now, all our progress is lost now, snatched from us by those awful liberals who will now proceed to ruin the entire country with their socialist plans. Why, they'll just undo all our efforts thanks to Ron Paul, the other 3rd party candidates and Obama supporters have managed to unseat loyal Republicans who...

*CLICK*

nelsonwinters
11-07-2008, 11:02 PM
It's funny that the Libertarians and Republicans are both blaming Ron Paul for their party's misfortunes. That is giving Ron Paul a lot of credit. Ron Paul's constituency has been upgraded from being perceied as a handful of spammers to a group large enough to decide an election. And remember, perception is reality.

Let us not forget: First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Now that we're a perceived threat, I guess the fighting has begun.

puppetmaster
11-08-2008, 05:15 AM
Absolutely not me. It isn't even that I didn't mean to be quoted that way. I flat out never said such things and would never. I am constantly sticking up for Paul people here locally. I am VERY verbal about how they are treated.

In discussion last night, we determined that he either put the wrong name on it or someone said it and gave my name. Several people also commented that I was drinking, but in fact, I rarely drink 1 drink and certainly don't get to slurring as was insinuated. I actually suspect I know who said it, because a supposed Paul sympathizer came up to me and slurring, told me it was Ron Paul's fault for dividing the party. Sounds too familiar.

Also, I was not elected unfortunately. They had that wrong too. In any case, I contacted the editor for a retraction, but have had ZERO response.

Do not allow anyone to divide and conquer.

My email address is lisamarie@vegasamerican.com and my phone number is 702-413-2415. Please feel free to call me. I have nothing to hide and the truth on my side.

Love & Liberty,
LisaMarie

Let me ask a question, were you a delegat. e and did you vote for Ron Paul at the GOP national convention?

Brian
11-08-2008, 09:09 AM
I would be surprised if Lisa Marie said that. She's been a Ron Paul supporter from day 1.

Keep in mind this is the UNLV student newspaper the Rebel Yell. Errors do occur ... and often.

The circumstances of the Nevada delegates are varied. Some were told their votes didn't matter, others went to the RATM concert to blow off steam. All were manipulated. Some have apologized for not being stronger. Either way, they have collectively lost our trust.

What ever this creature is it's going in my post. :bunchies: It's a sheeple, right?

On the bright side, Porter lost because he voted for the bailout, Heller won because he voted against the bailout, and Bob Beers, the closest thing we have to a true conservative in the party establishment, lost because of his involvement with the antics at the state convention. Ain't karma a bitch?

georgiaboy
11-08-2008, 10:56 AM
What ever this creature is it's going in my post. :bunchies: It's a sheeple, right?



Bunchies the Llama.

Debates in off-topic subforum about what it is, what it's name is, and whether it stays.

worl
11-08-2008, 10:58 AM
We will know in the coming months where we stand with the gop. I will always remember all the censoring, snearing, laughing at a man with the best conservative voting record of them all. The way I see it, the censoring of Ron took away all our voices & looked more like russia than America. I won't trust the gop. until I see a lot of changes & also I believe they should all apologize publicly to Ron & us. This also includes the fox rep. news.

heavenlyboy34
11-08-2008, 11:07 AM
"In addition, some feel that the Republicans have drifted away from not only their policies, but from one another.
"I believe that Ron Paul divided this party," said Nevada Assemblywoman Lisa Marie Johnson.
"He damaged the values of this party and has instilled a sense of distrust in young voters."
"In order to reach the younger voters of not only Nevada, but of the nation, [Republicans] need to convince the people of our policy and stick to it," Hambrick said.
"We also need to cut the bulls--t and tell these kids how it is.""

Yeah, the 10-term congressman is to blame. It has absolutely nothing to do with stupid policy and hacks in office. :rolleyes: ~cough~bullshit!~cough~

V3n
11-08-2008, 11:09 AM
I blame Nevada GOP hacks for Ron Paul's loss. So there.

heavenlyboy34
11-08-2008, 11:11 AM
I blame Nevada GOP hacks for Ron Paul's loss. So there.

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