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11-06-2008, 09:18 AM
"I will only believe there’s no racism any more when they put a white man in charge of Rwanda".


Thursday, November 06, 2008
Obama's victory: the right-wing press

Jumping on the bandwagon, colour-related puns and conspiracy theories. The British right-wing press is talking about Obama's victory.

Finding admirers of John McCain and Sarah Palin is already looking as hopeless as the quest to unearth any supporter of John Major in the Nineties. You won't find a single paper or MP openly expressing disappointment at Obama's victory. Yesterday's pathetic exchange between David Cameron and Gordon Brown already looked like two slugs fighting for who could dribble the most in their "I'm-exactly-like-Obama" competition.

The Telegraph, for instance, is quite candid in its "Republican post-mortem", underlining the divide between the social conservatives who think gays should all be burned at the stake "and moderates who think the fanaticism of some evangelical voters has driven away independent voters".

Even Max Hastings in the Daily Mail is writing that "the miracle has happened", adding: "Almost all of us are thrilled that Obama has made it, passionately keen for him to succeed". In the same paper, David Jones calls it "a night to remember and to relish". Seriously, that's in today's Daily Mail. Look it up here and here if you don't want to be seen at the till with a copy of it.

But as we shift even further to the right, you can sense the unease. You can't expect the Daily Express, who is about as right wing as Thatcher's handbag, to do a Daily Mail and jump on the bandwagon. Theirs is a different angle. "TARGET OBAMA", is their headline, "FEARS PRESIDENT MAY NEVER MAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE", as they report what Ku Klux Klan International leader Railton Loy said of Mr Obama: “If that man is elected president, he’ll be shot sure as hell. The hate would be so deep down South".

Incidentally, a similarly grim prediction is made by BNP leader Nick Griffin. He writes that "At its worst, a string of white supremacist nuts and disgruntled ex-jarheads will be arrested plotting to assassinate him, and one will succeed, sparking not just programs but the legalised dispossession of a white America paralysed by fear and guilt". Followed by the predictable, "for at the very heart of Barak Obama there is a deep-seated anti-white racism". Textbook reverse psychology there.

On to more familiar territory, you can tell the whole Sun staff spent the past twenty four hours obsessing over colour-related puns. Kelvin MacKenzie's contribution is "Black? I hope Obama's got lots of grey". What a witty guy. Then look at this pearl, "I will only believe there’s no racism any more when they put a white man in charge of Rwanda". Put that page three down MacKenzie, get your hand off your knob and pick up a history book. You may have even heard of good old Rhodesia or apartheid South Africa. "White men" were "in charge" of Africa for quite a few years.

As for Jeremy Clarkson, not a word yet. So let's content ourselves with Fergus Shanahan, another one of our favourites, who goes for the Schwarznegger angle, "You look at [Obama's] slender frame and think: such a burden on such slim shoulders".

Oh aren't they seething.
written by Stan Moss at 8:50 AM

11-06-2008, 09:26 AM
I think that if we shut the effin' government down along with the government controlled media, then racism will stop. Government and its arms are the biggest propagator of racism.

They love to pit groups against each other.

Soca Taliban
11-06-2008, 09:31 AM
If you want to end racism, then we need stop trying to label people based on the color of their skin and get back to using color for what its main purpose was. An adjective and nothing more.

11-06-2008, 09:32 AM
end racism = desegregate our federal buildings

when criminals and violent people live together in a segregated mentality they bring that to the streets and teach their younger brothers and friends to stick to their own.

I think this one part would "help".

I mean I remember high school, everyone was in their own little areas with their own group of people. We like to be around people like us even when we were young. Not really sure why and don't really know how to stop that because you tend to feel more comfortable with those like you. Like I used to hang out with skaters and punk rock scene. That is where I felt comfortable.

So do we segregate ourselves due to race or due to wanting to be with people like us?

Truth Warrior
11-06-2008, 09:33 AM
If you want to end racism, then we need stop trying to label people based on the color of their skin and get back to using color for what its main purpose was. An adjective and nothing more. It goes much deeper than mere "skin color" both ways. :rolleyes:

11-06-2008, 10:31 AM
Racism always goes back to the collectivist mentality.

Only when it is possible to eliminate groups of all types and recognize all as individuals will racism be truly gone.

Pitting groups against one another is one of the strongest tools of those who seek to have power and control over people through the old-fashioned divide and conquer mechanism.

Some Dr. Paul comments:

Rights belong only to individuals, not collective groups
After 200 years, the constitutional protection of the right of the individual to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is virtually gone.
Today's current terminology describing rights reflects this sad change. It is commonplace for politicians and those desiring special privileges to refer to: black rights, Hispanic rights, handicap rights, employee rights, student rights, minority rights, women's rights, gay rights, children's rights, student rights, Asian-American rights, Jewish rights, AIDS victims' rights, poverty rights, homeless rights, etc.

Unless all the terms are dropped & we recognize that only an individual has rights, the solution to the mess in which we find ourselves will not be found. The longer we lack of definition of rights, the worse the economic and social problems will be.

Source: Freedom Under Siege, by Ron Paul, p. 14-15 Dec 31, 1987

Don't ask, don't tell is a decent policy for gays in army
Q: Most of our closest allies, including Great Britain and Israel, allow gays and lesbians to openly serve in the military. Is it time to end "Don't ask, don't tell" policy and allow gays and lesbians to serve openly in the US military?

A: I think the current policy is a decent policy. And the problem that we have with dealing with this subject is we see people as groups, as they belong to certain groups and that they derive their rights as belonging to groups. We don't get our rights because we're gays or women or minorities. We get our rights from our creator as individuals. So every individual should be treated the same way. So if there is homosexual behavior in the military that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. But if there's heterosexual sexual behavior that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. So it isn't the issue of homosexuality, it's the concept and the understanding of individual rights. If we understood that, we would not be dealing with this very important problem

Source: 2007 GOP debate at Saint Anselm College Jun 3, 2007

Gender-equal pay violates idea of voluntary contract
rejection of the idea of the voluntary contract. The idea that a businessman must hire anyone and is prevented from firing anyone for any reason he chooses, and in the name of rights, is a clear indication that the basic concept of a free society has been lost.
In the name of equal rights, Montana has forced insurance companies to charge women additional premiums to make the fees equal to those charged men, regardless of the economic realities that allow for a lower premium.

Source: Freedom Under Siege, by Ron Paul, p. 17-18 Dec 31, 1987

No affirmative action for any group
All rights are individuals. We do not get our rights because we belong to a group. Whether it's homosexuals, women, minorities, it leads us astray. You don't get your rights belonging to your group. A group can't force themselves on anybody else. So there should be no affirmative action for any group.
This violates the principle on the importance of the individual, and confuses us about the importance of individual rights, which is the purpose of the Constitution. Defend our individual rights.

Source: 2007 GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate Sep 17, 2007

11-07-2008, 12:45 PM
Let everyone stop using the N-word because it's racist if only blacks can use it.:p

11-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Laws that recognize race, perpetuate racism. If you want a nation to be "color blind," it can't use color to distinguish between groups of people. Affirmative action does more harm than good to the very people that it is supposed to be helping. Which, IMHO, is probably the plan. Keep us focused on fighting amongst ourselves long enough for all of us to lose all of our rights in the end anyway.