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Panoptimist
11-04-2008, 11:43 PM
So people are seemingly ecstatic about Obama's victory, attitudes creating an aire of bliss...it's like people think all of our problems will be solved now that a democratic African American is in office. It seems that this social attitude is evidence that people don't want to take responsibility. "Oh, look what the Republicans did. A Democrat will fix everything."

What do we really have to do as a people to take advantage of this outcome? Problems won't fix themselves.

A. Havnes
11-04-2008, 11:46 PM
Oh, he's not just a democrat, but a black democrat. That makes all the difference because it proves we're not racist.

Oh, and Obama's not a democrat, but a socialist. McCain was the democrat in this election!

bluto20
11-04-2008, 11:54 PM
it means absolutely nothing will change.

Theocrat
11-04-2008, 11:59 PM
It means yes, we can! :p

Michigan11
11-05-2008, 12:00 AM
It also means another traitor in office

ClayTrainor
11-05-2008, 12:07 AM
It means the constitution is dead.

Has he presented his Birth Certificate yet? Shouldn't that be a requirement for this job?

RedLightning
11-05-2008, 12:10 AM
It means that we're racist if we don't like him.

TheWhiteRider
11-05-2008, 12:24 AM
I think this is incredible news for Paul supporters.

Lemme start by telling you where I come from. I'm 18, first time voter today for Obama. I've been for the democratic candidate since Gore which was the first election I remember, but always been interested in 3rd party candidates. When the whole Ron Paul thing went down I was really interested in the race and became a full Ron Paul supporter.

why? because he was a different kind of republican. My experience with the Paul campaign taught me that the republican values are not necessarily always bad. I think you can almost say there are two kinds of republicans, the so-called neocons (Bush, McCain, Rudy, Romney, Cheney etc.), and then there are the Ron Pauls, and though there aren't many right now, he really does represent the true core values of a republican, and I can respect and honor these and perhaps even support them. I cannot do so for the neocons, they are, basically, insane.

Now, my point, why this is incredible news for the Paul supporters.

There has been much talk of the death of the Republican party because of this crushing defeat for them. Now of course I don't think the party itself is actually gonna die, I think we are at the end of the era of the neocons. I don't think we will ever see another president like Bush for a very very long time. I think when a new republican star does rise, he will bear a striking resemblance to the Paul ideals rather than the conservatism we are used to.

I think we have very good days ahead of us. I think we have witnessed the death of the neocons, not the death of conservatism. I think Obama/Biden will do an incredible job as leaders of the country, and I think when the republicans do rise again (as is inevitable, however long it may be), it will be a much more traditional Ron Paul-ish republican. So we have very good days ahead of us.

Wickwire
11-05-2008, 12:27 AM
I think this is incredible news for Paul supporters.

Lemme start by telling you where I come from. I'm 18, first time voter today for Obama. I've been for the democratic candidate since Gore which was the first election I remember, but always been interested in 3rd party candidates. When the whole Ron Paul thing went down I was really interested in the race and became a full Ron Paul supporter.

why? because he was a different kind of republican. My experience with the Paul campaign taught me that the republican values are not necessarily always bad. I think you can almost say there are two kinds of republicans, the so-called neocons (Bush, McCain, Rudy, Romney, Cheney etc.), and then there are the Ron Pauls, and though there aren't many right now, he really does represent the true core values of a republican, and I can respect and honor these and perhaps even support them. I cannot do so for the neocons, they are, basically, insane.

Now, my point, why this is incredible news for the Paul supporters.

There has been much talk of the death of the Republican party because of this crushing defeat for them. Now of course I don't think the party itself is actually gonna die, I think we are at the end of the era of the neocons. I don't think we will ever see another president like Bush for a very very long time. I think when a new republican star does rise, he will bear a striking resemblance to the Paul ideals rather than the conservatism we are used to.

I think we have very good days ahead of us. I think we have witnessed the death of the neocons, not the death of conservatism. I think Obama/Biden will do an incredible job as leaders of the country, and I think when the republicans do rise again (as is inevitable, however long it may be), it will be a much more traditional Ron Paul-ish republican. So we have very good days ahead of us.


I think you still have much to learn.

seapilot
11-05-2008, 12:42 AM
I think you still have much to learn.

On the right track with the wrong train. 1+ With BO we will swing so far to the left that conservative democrats will seem far right. Welcome to communism.

Kludge
11-05-2008, 12:45 AM
Butterfly effect -- I don't know. There are too many variables. Perhaps the "lunch lady" will feel apathetic due to the outcome and not wash her hands, leading to me becoming infected with some bacteria.

Perhaps some fellow will offer me a stick of gum out of generosity inspired by satisfaction from the outcome...

RSLudlum
11-05-2008, 12:47 AM
On the right track with the wrong train. 1+ With BO we will swing so far to the left that conservative democrats will seem far right.

And those conservative democrats will face the possibility of the national dem party not supporting them at all during their next election, as long as there are still Lindsey Graham Republicans running against them.

Panoptimist
11-05-2008, 01:18 AM
Oh, he's not just a democrat, but a black democrat. That makes all the difference because it proves we're not racist.

Oh, and Obama's not a democrat, but a socialist. McCain was the democrat in this election!

Elaborate?

Josh_LA
11-05-2008, 01:20 AM
it means the White House and government has been politically "bailed out".

addressing the problems with government will be delayed, faith has been restored to the system and people are happy they have a "new guy".

it means the fight has just begun.

TheWhiteRider
11-05-2008, 01:20 AM
far left in the United States is like moderate compared to the rest of the world.

RonPaulNewbee
11-05-2008, 01:34 AM
WhiteRider, I haven't read more of your posts but you have the right idea. The 15 year old RP Circle Jerks here are clueless about reality. You are spot on. They think this and that about an Obama presidency and they are utterly clueless. Or maybe "hopeless". I didn't vote for Barry but I'm glad he won (I voted Baldwin).

Anyway, we have to find a way to work in the new paradigm. Most of the people on this site I've come to realize are either racist or ideologues in the worst sort of way. I agree with their political philosophy! But they are flawed. I guess that says something about me. Sorry, I'm not perfect either. But I'm not willing to write off a mandate of the People, yes We thee People!

The People have spoken ... in a landslide victory (820 electoral votes). People here would say something like: "they picked Obama so the people want to remain on the govt. dole". Brilliant. No, it means they reject the politics of divisiveness. They don't remember Bobby Kennedy. Oh, yeah, "he's one of them reptilians". Again, brilliant!

Kludge
11-05-2008, 01:35 AM
far left in the United States is like moderate compared to the rest of the world.

+1 :( (or :)... unsure)

Truth Warrior
11-05-2008, 03:38 AM
Let me make a SWAG here: More and bigger government? :rolleyes:

Thanks for nothing, voters. :p