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Bison
09-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Oreilly just said Ron Paul would be on his show on Monday.

JosephTheLibertarian
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Oreilly just said Ron Paul would be on his show on Monday.

ha

Spike Kojima
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Bill O'Reilly just said that Dr, Paul should be on his show on monday.

edit, i guess i wasnt fast enough, must be the transatlantic delay.

WillInMiami
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
...moments ago.

John of Des Moines
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
This is why I have a dvr - have the meetup meeting monday night.

nist7
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Oreilly just said Ron Paul would be on his show on Monday.


How very interesting. I have been wondering about how O'Reilly takes to this "rogue" republican.

Hurricane Bruiser
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Bill Oreilly on FOX NEWS just said that he thinks Ron Paul will be on his show on Monday for coverage of Petraus testimony and "it should be interesting"

MsDoodahs
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
I have it on Fox just to see what was going to be said (if anything) about the bin Laden tape, and then went to get a cup of coffee, and I could have sworn I heard that guy say Ron Paul would be on and that it should be interesting.

Anyone know if I am just tripping or ... is this a possibility?

Bison
09-07-2007, 06:06 PM
No Joke.

Paulitician
09-07-2007, 06:06 PM
Wow... what's the context. Did he sound negative about? Neutral? Sardonic? What?

Paulitician
09-07-2007, 06:07 PM
LOl like 5 threads already

jj111
09-07-2007, 06:07 PM
Are you kidding me? Ron Paul on O'Reilly? This would seem like Obi Wan Knobi against Darth Vader.

Hurricane Bruiser
09-07-2007, 06:07 PM
yep, said it should be "interesting"

Johnnybags
09-07-2007, 06:07 PM
Oreilly just said Ron Paul would be on his show on Monday.

Hume,Goler and Wallace failed so the biggest fish in Neocon pond will take his shot. Of course if he lets him speak, he loses, if he screams and cuts him off, he loses. Just like the debate. It would be his highest rated show in years.

Bison
09-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Oreilly said that he would cover Gen Pretraes testimony about the surge on Monday and that Ron would be on the show as well. He said it should be interesting.

Hurricane Bruiser
09-07-2007, 06:08 PM
yea, everyone seems to have posted about the same time. lol

John of Des Moines
09-07-2007, 06:08 PM
LOl like 5 threads already

Yeah, now we know who are closet O'Really fans on this board. :eek:

jj111
09-07-2007, 06:09 PM
Really people, what the heck are you doing watching O'Reilly? What is your excuse?

foofighter20x
09-07-2007, 06:09 PM
I don't like it for the fact that Bill will just explode at RP like Bill-O did to Geraldo.

themanhere
09-07-2007, 06:10 PM
I wish he would get on the Today show or something besides Fox. They do not like him one bit.

Well cant wait to watch it then come here and see all the Orielly is a piece of shit threads.

stevedasbach
09-07-2007, 06:10 PM
Yeah, now we know who are closet O'Really fans on this board. :eek:

This forum is the only way I would ever know what was said on O'Reilly. :)

John of Des Moines
09-07-2007, 06:11 PM
I don't like it for the fact that Bill will just explode at RP like Bill-O did to Geraldo.

But the Doctor will handle Billo the same way he handle Hannity the other night. "You should be nice to your guests."

B964
09-07-2007, 06:11 PM
Yeah he just said it. "Ron Paul should be here and it should be interesting" It was right after he was talking about how the left liberals were going to react to the General Petraeus report. Not sarcastic but as if he can't wait to sink his hooks in and be the Fox-neo con hero.

Spike Kojima
09-07-2007, 06:11 PM
Wow... what's the context. Did he sound negative about? Neutral? Sardonic? What?

He was doing a monologue in which he criticised the far left and their socialist progressive ways for criticising Patreus (sp?) /the surge.
At the end of the monologue he said the Generals report would be out on Monday and that Ron Paul should be on the show, which he said would be interesting.

jj111
09-07-2007, 06:13 PM
But the Doctor will handle Billo the same way he handle Hannity the other night. "You should be nice to your guests."

That was a somewhat clever comment Ron said there....

constituent
09-07-2007, 06:14 PM
ron paul can handle him... w/ o'reilly you let him explode and then say...

'are you finished?' with a really condescending tone...

then he lets you speak you address him constantly by his first name,

'now bill, you asked me a question, i expect a fair opportunity to answer it.'

he fires back,

'look are you insinuating something here buddy, 'cuz blah blah blah'

and Ron Paul says,

'listen here friend, my life is a story of devotion to my country. during the vietnam era, i served 5 yrs. as a flight surgeon in the US airforce. i've stared down ridicule and slander the whole latter half of my life for no other reason than my desire to see a better world for my children and grandchildren. for you to behave in such a manner to make a show, and for what some measly ratings? have you no honor sir? no sense of duty your country?'

and that's it... no more o'reilly factor.

Thom1776
09-07-2007, 06:17 PM
Looks like I'll be busy at Fred Thompson Forum (http://fredthompsonforum.com/index.php).

blazin_it_alwyz
09-07-2007, 06:23 PM
wow this is bigger than the debate.......... wow the anticipation for this, I am scared and anticipated at the same time........ I honestly think how this is going to play out, is O'Reiley is going to spew his nonsense, cut Ron off, switch the subject, cut him off again, switch subject quickly, and then cut his mic, or just end the segment.

Whatever, I trust Ron Paul, hopefully he is doing what is right.

Hook
09-07-2007, 06:25 PM
Dr. Paul's positions require lots of explanation because they are more complicated than soundbites can express. That isn't going to go well with O'Rilley because he only gives you 4 words between his diatribes. That show is only for the simple-minded that don't want to carefully think about the issues.

happyphilter
09-07-2007, 06:26 PM
this is good. Even people who arent in love with Bill O watch the show. I Bill for my own reasons, so this will be interesting.

A Swede
09-07-2007, 06:27 PM
According to the O'Relly Factor Wikipedia article (which you find here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_O'Reilly_Factor)) Dr Paul has already declined to appear on his show once. When was that?

tmg19103
09-07-2007, 06:27 PM
You know what, as biased as Fox is and as much as they tried to belittle RP at the debate, that debate got 3.1 million viewers and the most exciting part was the Paul/Huckabee exchange.

While I would not put anything past O'Really and Fox, they just may also realize that RP might mean higher ratings - and if that is the case that WILL get RP mainstream media exposure. He is unique as the only anti-war Republican candidate AND he is more anti-war than any legit Dem.

I still don't trust Fox, but I wonder if they might be trying to see what this does for ratings. EVERYBODY should tune in. If RP turns into ratings the MSM will clamor to have him on.

BuddyRey
09-07-2007, 06:28 PM
I hope Ron doesn't take ANY crap from Billo. That guy takes bullying to the level of an artform. If RP shows any weakness at all, he'll risk losing credibility. Good luck, Ron!!!

JosephTheLibertarian
09-07-2007, 06:28 PM
Yeah, now we know who are closet O'Really fans on this board. :eek:

nope. I used to find it entertaining when he argued with some of his guests, but I'm not a fan. I don't really agree with all of his opinions. Olbermann can be entertaining, but he's just too much of a Democratic Party shill.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
09-07-2007, 06:30 PM
Oh boy, now Geraldo is going to tell us what he thinks about the bin Laden tape.

Cant wait.



Ron Paul keeps being brought up. And now Osama talking about Scheuer, and that translating into CNN and Fox talking to and about Scheuer.

how long before they accept the notion that we where attacked because of our involvement?

When will they play off "They hate us for our freedoms" idea, as another Bush administration lie right next to WMDs and Iraq's involvement with 9/11?

paulitics
09-07-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm predicting an all time high view on Youtube, easily 500,000 views or more. It will be nasty too.

ProximoAZ
09-07-2007, 06:33 PM
Well I think this verifies we are definitely now in the "and then they attack you" phase

mannycp
09-07-2007, 06:33 PM
Really people, what the heck are you doing watching O'Reilly? What is your excuse?


What is your excuse?

wecandoit
09-07-2007, 06:34 PM
DECLINE THIS OFFER RON!!

Man I hope Ron doesn't go on this show unless he absolutely insists it's live. All his answers will be edited to unrecognizable gibberish.

This is both good and bad news. It's good that Ron has now graduated to the top attack dog, it shows how worried they are.

It's bad news if Ron accepts this on a tape delayed basis and lets O'Rielly put a hatchet job on him.

allyinoh
09-07-2007, 06:36 PM
I don't watch Bill "O'Really?" I think he and Geraldo Rivera are perverts.

I think Ron Paul should decline. Bill isn't going to let RP get a sentence in. I won't watch it if it does happen.

Sorry to be so negative but I think Ron Paul should decline that sleazeball's invitation. (But I still think RP would "pwn" OReilly)

njandrewg
09-07-2007, 06:36 PM
I predict this:

O'reiley talks about how the surge is working. He then talks about how Petreous says that the troops need to be there until spring 08. Then asks Ron..."Now Ron since you take orders for Osama...what do you say about this?"

<RON> Well B... <O'reily...no spin here, looks like we are out of time>

themanhere
09-07-2007, 06:37 PM
Looks like I'll be busy at Fred Thompson Forum (http://fredthompsonforum.com/index.php).

HAHA that site cracks me up. The t shirt thread had me rolling. http://fredthompsonforum.com/showthread.php?t=368

RP4ME
09-07-2007, 06:39 PM
im scaaaaaawed!

Kuldebar
09-07-2007, 06:40 PM
I'm not really sure I like the idea of Paul going on that show. :/

It smells of ambush to me. But, I guess it depends on how much spittle and frothing at the mouth O'Reilly is going to do.

I don't like the idea Paul is going to get shouted down or kept from answering things fully...

RJB
09-07-2007, 06:41 PM
HAHA that site cracks me up. The t shirt thread had me rolling. http://fredthompsonforum.com/showthread.php?t=368

Karl Rove remade it better.
http://fredthompsonforum.com/showthread.php?p=5348#post5348

itsnobody
09-07-2007, 06:41 PM
O'Reilly secretly LOVES Ron Paul...can't you guys tell? He's never attacked Ron Paul or anything...

wecandoit
09-07-2007, 06:42 PM
O'Reilly only does tape delay, and there is no way in heck they are going to release a version that shows Paul in any positive light whatsoever.

DECLINE!!

JosephTheLibertarian
09-07-2007, 06:42 PM
I hope O'reilly doesn't give Ron Paul what he gave Tom Tancredo! something like "you really don't expect to win, right?"

Paulitician
09-07-2007, 06:43 PM
I hope O'reilly doesn't give Ron Paul what he gave Tom Tancredo! something like "you really don't expect to win, right?"
How did Tancredo respond?

Shink
09-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Karl Rove remade it better.
http://fredthompsonforum.com/showthread.php?p=5348#post5348

FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN.

RJB
09-07-2007, 06:47 PM
O'Reilly secretly LOVES Ron Paul...can't you guys tell? He's never attacked Ron Paul or anything...

He's called Dr. Paul dopey at least once.

I think O'Rielly was really in the Ignore him stage. Now it's attack...

DJ RP
09-07-2007, 06:48 PM
I can't stand O'reilly but a while back he had Richard Dawkins on the show. Now Dawkins is a personal hero of mine and I was very worried O'reilly would just shout over him because there had been a LOT of rediculous attacks at the atheist movement on TV and especially fox in the run up to the interview.

I was scared for him.

O'Reilly surprised me, he let Dawkins speak.

Now afterwards o'reilly claimed to have won the debate and had guests on agreeing with him and such. But the actual interview was reasonably fair and anybody who had been watching with an open mind would have been able to see Dawkins made good points.

The moral is, it might not be too bad, and it could be GREAT.

Remember, Ron Paul is a slippery eel of debating, the guy can't be cornered.

This is MASSIVE MASSIVE PUBLICITY.

I say go Ron!

(But I'm nervous :D)

LibertyEagle
09-07-2007, 06:48 PM
Wow... what's the context. Did he sound negative about? Neutral? Sardonic? What?

He said something like... that will be interesting, while he had a sour look on his face.

transistor
09-07-2007, 06:49 PM
i really hate how bill cuts people off

for a lot of positions that ron paul has, he needs more than one sentence for it to make sense and i doubt bill will give him that

JosephTheLibertarian
09-07-2007, 06:49 PM
He's called Dr. Paul dopey at least once.

I think O'Rielly was really in the Ignore him stage. Now it's attack...

really? I was beginning to think that Ron Paul and Bill O'Reilly were in two different parallel universes.

speciallyblend
09-07-2007, 06:49 PM
I did write a letter to oreilly asking to have Ron Paul on ,maybe my letter helped???? naaaaaa but this is great Ron Paul will do well and oreilly will ask hard questions RON PAUL2008

wgadget
09-07-2007, 06:51 PM
I don't like it for the fact that Bill will just explode at RP like Bill-O did to Geraldo.

Yep, and Ron will sit there patiently waiting for him to get over his little tantrum.

RJB
09-07-2007, 06:53 PM
Remember, Ron Paul is a slippery eel of debating, the guy can't be cornered.
:D)

I think it's because everything can be trace to the constitution-- The docment neocons claim to love yet only care about when democrats break it.

JosephTheLibertarian
09-07-2007, 06:54 PM
I can't stand O'reilly but a while back he had Richard Dawkins on the show. Now Dawkins is a personal hero of mine and I was very worried O'reilly would just shout over him because there had been a LOT of rediculous attacks at the atheist movement on TV and especially fox in the run up to the interview.

I was scared for him.

O'Reilly surprised me, he let Dawkins speak.

Now afterwards o'reilly claimed to have won the debate and had guests on agreeing with him and such. But the actual interview was reasonably fair and anybody who had been watching with an open mind would have been able to see Dawkins made good points.

The moral is, it might not be too bad, and it could be GREAT.

Remember, Ron Paul is a slippery eel of debating, the guy can't be cornered.

This is MASSIVE MASSIVE PUBLICITY.

I say go Ron!

(But I'm nervous :D)

ha.. I like some of what Christopher Hitchens says, I just don't like that he's pro war, and the fact that he's a socialist. George Galloway had a good debate with him

Kuldebar
09-07-2007, 06:54 PM
I did write a letter to oreilly asking to have Ron Paul on ,maybe my letter helped???? naaaaaa but this is great Ron Paul will do well and oreilly will ask hard questions RON PAUL2008

BO: Congressman Paul, you are an isolationist, ya, I know you don't like that label, but that's in fact what you are, that theory of foreign policy went out of style, and rightfully so about 100 years ago. I think you need to wake up and realize the real world and get out of that libertarian wonderland you are living in.

RP: Well, I disag...

BO: Congressman we are out of time. Thanks for watching the Factor. The No Spin Zone, goodnight!

Colleen
09-07-2007, 06:55 PM
Bill may be really hard on him. But I think the people are wise to His tactics, by now.

I, for one, will be praying for Ron that night.

jjschless
09-07-2007, 06:55 PM
Are you kidding me? Ron Paul on O'Reilly? This would seem like Obi Wan Knobi against Darth Vader.

Paul V Cheney

quickmike
09-07-2007, 06:55 PM
Are you kidding me? Ron Paul on O'Reilly? This would seem like Obi Wan Knobi against Darth Vader.

O'reilly can be fair sometimes, but yeah, hes usually an ass. Way better than Hannity in my opinion.


Still an asshat though.............. doesnt say much for Hannity. :D

I bet he will be respectful of Dr Paul.

Bruehound
09-07-2007, 06:57 PM
If Dr. Ron could handle Morton Downey Jr. in the 80's, he surely can handle blowhard bill.

allyinoh
09-07-2007, 06:57 PM
Does anyone else get the heeby jeebys from OReilly? He creeeeps me out!

American
09-07-2007, 06:58 PM
Dr. Paul needs to incorporate this line that rudy uses when he replies he always starts out with "Well, the reality is...."

Should be good, I hope RP kicks ass.

blazin_it_alwyz
09-07-2007, 07:11 PM
honestly, now that I think of it, out of all the debates O'Reiley has had with guests, I don't think any guest ever made him look like a complete idiot. You have to give it to the guy, he thinks quick on his feet, and he interrupts you and changes the topic very smoothly and very quickly before you know it.

Honestly guys, if this was a straight up debate, Ron Paul hands down, but there is no way O'Reiley is going to let him talk. He is going to do what he usually does, and start some sort of debate, and then say something absolutely absurd and slanderous at the end, and then "that's all the time we have for tonight folks".

Honestly, the only person I have ever seen that went 1 on 1 with O'Reiley is Geraldo Rivera, and most of the people who were well on their way to owning him, he cut their mic.

I mean also I love RP, but he is not the quickest on his feet, and a lot of his stances really need to be explained, not in a 5 minute time frame, with O'Reiley taking up 4 minutes of that time.

The table is tilted, and the game is rigged with this interview, I just wish RP would reconsider this, I absolutely hope he has something EXCELLENT under his sleeve if he is agreeing to this interview, make no mistake, O'Reiley is going to try to bury Ron Paul.

jj111
09-07-2007, 07:27 PM
I really would not have wanted Paul to accept an O'Reilly interview. It's a bit like asking to be cheated and abused by someone.

Bison
09-07-2007, 07:28 PM
The upside is that if he handles Oreilly well, it will impact a lot of people.

jj111
09-07-2007, 07:28 PM
I Ron can pull off an O'Reilly interview positively, it would be like he's a magician.

quickmike
09-07-2007, 07:29 PM
honestly, now that I think of it, out of all the debates O'Reiley has had with guests, I don't think any guest ever made him look like a complete idiot. You have to give it to the guy, he thinks quick on his feet, and he interrupts you and changes the topic very smoothly and very quickly before you know it.

Honestly guys, if this was a straight up debate, Ron Paul hands down, but there is no way O'Reiley is going to let him talk. He is going to do what he usually does, and start some sort of debate, and then say something absolutely absurd and slanderous at the end, and then "that's all the time we have for tonight folks".

Honestly, the only person I have ever seen that went 1 on 1 with O'Reiley is Geraldo Rivera, and most of the people who were well on their way to owning him, he cut their mic.

I mean also I love RP, but he is not the quickest on his feet, and a lot of his stances really need to be explained, not in a 5 minute time frame, with O'Reiley taking up 4 minutes of that time.

The table is tilted, and the game is rigged with this interview, I just wish RP would reconsider this, I absolutely hope he has something EXCELLENT under his sleeve if he is agreeing to this interview, make no mistake, O'Reiley is going to try to bury Ron Paul.



That one was pretty good I agree, but the BEST one ive seen was with someone I cant stand personaly................... PHIL DONAHUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c

stevedasbach
09-07-2007, 07:30 PM
If at all possible, Paul arrange to do the interview in studio with O'Reilly. It's a lot harder for the interviewer to pull crap when the guest is seated at the same table.

itsnobody
09-07-2007, 07:31 PM
You guys are thinking too negatively, Ron Paul will be GREAT in this, he's excellent at debating, O'Reilly gets MILLIONS of viewers, so this will be a really good time for Ron Paul...

jj111
09-07-2007, 07:31 PM
I hope Ron has some tricks up his sleeve planned. And O'Reilly could edit them ALL out. O'Reilly could have Ron on for an hour interview, and then cut out all the good stuff, and leave after editing only the 3 minutes of the interview that make Ron look the worst.

It's too much in the control of the editors and producers. I say the stack is too much against Ron in a situation like that. There is no level playing field.

Michael Ingram
09-07-2007, 07:34 PM
What O'Reilly is counting on is the fact that he think Petraeus will give a positive report (Which he most likely will). He will then proceed to ask RP what his opinion is, "Should we cut and run now that we are winning?"

richard1984
09-07-2007, 07:34 PM
I Ron can pull off an O'Reilly interview positively, it would be like he's a magician.

I agree. Dr. Paul is very intelligent. He understands strategy--it comes to him naturally. He would know how to handle O'Reilly just like he knows how to handle a temperamental child.

Don't underestimate the power of Ron Paul. He completely dominated everyone Wednesday night. He really shouldn't have much of a problem with Billy boy.

Joe Knows
09-07-2007, 07:43 PM
Dr. Paul's positions require lots of explanation because they are more complicated than soundbites can express. That isn't going to go well with O'Rilley because he only gives you 4 words between his diatribes. That show is only for the simple-minded that don't want to carefully think about the issues.

Ron Paul---Substance! Not Soundbites!

ScotTX
09-07-2007, 07:52 PM
I've seen Dr. Paul's last 3 speaches and he is on fire right now. You can tell he is really drawing a lot of energy from the campaign and is becoming a fierce competitor for the nomination. The debate the other night showed us that the ol' boy still has a lot of fight left in him. BillO better watch out or else the Dr. might spank his ass like newborn baby!

Starks
09-07-2007, 07:54 PM
Bill O'RLY is the shepherd of the neocon flock... HE REACHES MILLIONS OF UNINFORMED AMERICANS.

james1844
09-07-2007, 07:56 PM
Thats going to be a rough interview. O'Riley has a reputation for being uncivil to his guests.

billm317
09-07-2007, 07:59 PM
That one was pretty good I agree, but the BEST one ive seen was with someone I cant stand personaly................... PHIL DONAHUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c

wow, Donahue totally controlled that interview
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c

ron, take notes. bill is going to come out swinging i think

wgadget
09-07-2007, 08:02 PM
Bill O'RLY is the shepherd of the neocon flock... HE REACHES MILLIONS OF UNINFORMED AMERICANS.


I was a neocon up until May 9, when I discovered Ron Paul. Anyone can be easily converted. Bring 'im on!

dmitchell
09-07-2007, 08:12 PM
O'Reilly has an easily exploitable fatal flaw: vanity. Donahue brilliantly attacked this vulnerable point. He knocked O'Reilly back on his heels with his strongest argument, but then played to O'Reilly's vanity and attempted to bring him into the fold ("We need you, Bill.") I think Ron Paul should handle this interview the same way.

blazin_it_alwyz
09-07-2007, 08:18 PM
That one was pretty good I agree, but the BEST one ive seen was with someone I cant stand personaly................... PHIL DONAHUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c

He did excellent. But honestly Bill O was actually very fair in this interview. I have not been interested in politics long enough, but as far as me personally, that is the longest interview I have ever seen from Bill O, very surprising the amount of times that O'Reiley let him speak, even though they were speaking over one another, this was actually very civil.

But I honestly don't see Ron Paul speaking OVER O'Reiley like he has done here. I am very skeptical because I have seen O'Reiley burn many he has come across. It seemed like O'Reiley had a great deal of respect for this guy though. But I really can't say he has much respect for Ron Paul.

Like I said though, I hope for the best, and I hope Ron Paul buries him. We can only trust him. I honestly think that this interview right here, is bigger than the previous debate, if RP defeats Bill O'Reiley here..... imagine the surge of support for Ron Paul.

Cowlesy
09-07-2007, 08:18 PM
We don't worry about Ron. He's a 10 term Congressman, a Doctor schooled at Duke Medical---------he'll handle O'Reilly. He could do it without any help, but Kent and Lew will make sure he's fully prepared.

Have a little faith in our man!

interpaul
09-07-2007, 08:30 PM
A friend of mine just saw a commerical for Ron Paul on O'Reilly, Monday Night 09/10—Mark your calendars!

Tuck
09-07-2007, 08:34 PM
Don't worry guys if its 1 pattern i've noticed is that O'Reilly doesn't lash out or attack public officials the same way he does political activists, authors, or pundits. Especially when they have an (R) next to their name. Don't get me wrong he won't get the McCain softball questions but Ron Paul will handle it just fine.

Mordechai Vanunu
09-07-2007, 08:39 PM
Fox's attempts to defame Ron Paul during last Wednesday's last debate all failed. Sean Hannity got smacked around by Ron Paul and is obviously no match for him.

Bill O'Reilly is Fox News' last big gun to pull out against him. Maybe Bill will be fair, but he may go into full attack mode if that's the directive he's been given. If he does, Ron Paul will handle him with ease.

This marks the beginning of Stage 3/4.

Geronimo
09-07-2007, 08:41 PM
I don't think that RP will have a hard time standing up for himself. He wasn't afraid to raise his voice after being 'called out' at the debate the other night. I don't think he's afraid to shout back if need be. I just hope he doesn't need to.

torchbearer
09-07-2007, 08:46 PM
Nervous about that one... i think the new Iraq report is coming out that night... and i'm sure it will say "the surge" is working great and everything is peachy! And then O'Reilly will pounce and Paul, show him total disrespect and I'm not sure Paul comes out with more votes by doing....
Someone please show me the error in my thinking.

B964
09-07-2007, 08:49 PM
Really people, what the heck are you doing watching O'Reilly? What is your excuse?


Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

blazin_it_alwyz
09-07-2007, 08:50 PM
Nervous about that one... i think the new Iraq report is coming out that night... and i'm sure it will say "the surge" is working great and everything is peachy! And then O'Reilly will pounce and Paul, show him total disrespect and I'm not sure Paul comes out with more votes by doing....
Someone please show me the error in my thinking.

agreed. But we have to trust RP I guess, he has led us right so far...

Give me liberty
09-07-2007, 08:52 PM
Nervous about that one... i think the new Iraq report is coming out that night... and i'm sure it will say "the surge" is working great and everything is peachy! And then O'Reilly will pounce and Paul, show him total disrespect and I'm not sure Paul comes out with more votes by doing....
Someone please show me the error in my thinking.

remember the surge is working in one area of iraq
and the really question would be for how long would it last?

Scribbler de Stebbing
09-07-2007, 08:53 PM
Nervous about that one... i think the new Iraq report is coming out that night... and i'm sure it will say "the surge" is working great and everything is peachy! And then O'Reilly will pounce and Paul, show him total disrespect and I'm not sure Paul comes out with more votes by doing....
Someone please show me the error in my thinking.

I'm guessing they're just running the commercial to get ratings for Monday night -- is it some sort of "sweeps?" Then they'll find a technical glitch, water from the Potomac turning gaseous and fogging up the camera lens, O'Reilly's gopher boy got in a fender bender, the abortion lobbyist sneezed so they have to cover that. You know the routine.

Am I cynical yet? :p

Edit: Somehow I quoted the wrong post. Work with me people!

FluffyUnbound
09-07-2007, 08:55 PM
Depending on how long the segment is, I think Paul would benefit from steering the discussion AWAY from the war.

Usually I favor an "all war, all civil liberties, all the time" approach, but with O'Reilly, Paul should ask if Bill really, truly believes that any of the other candidates would do anything to cut federal spending if elected.

The Bush wing of the party had 8 years and both houses of Congress and didn't cut shit. All of the other candidates are so afraid of Bush they piss their pants when they hear his name, and they're all competing to inherit the Bush legacy.

Paul needs to push O'Reilly into "the conservative revolution was betrayed" mode, which O'Reilly is predisposed to do if you can get him going.

Nash
09-07-2007, 08:58 PM
Depending on how long the segment is, I think Paul would benefit from steering the discussion AWAY from the war.

Usually I favor an "all war, all civil liberties, all the time" approach, but with O'Reilly, Paul should ask if Bill really, truly believes that any of the other candidates would do anything to cut federal spending if elected.

The Bush wing of the party had 8 years and both houses of Congress and didn't cut shit. All of the other candidates are so afraid of Bush they piss their pants when they hear his name, and they're all competing to inherit the Bush legacy.

Paul needs to push O'Reilly into "the conservative revolution was betrayed" mode, which O'Reilly is predisposed to do if you can get him going.

The main problem with this argument when talking to the neocons is they say that we can't possibly cut spending "in a time of war".

Of course in the NeoCon utopia we are always at war and we always will be.

It's all about the war for these guys and they refuse to talk about spending cuts when we need trillions set aside for the war on terra.

michaelwise
09-07-2007, 09:15 PM
I just want to see a dejected look on O'Riley's face, just like the the ones on all the debate moderators, and Stephanopolas's face, after Ron gets finished schooling him. The look of learning the cold hard truth. No, please stop talking, that's not what I want to here. I'm making a video collection of all those schooled facial expressions.

ToxicFrog
09-07-2007, 09:20 PM
If Ron Paul is allowed to speak without too many interruptions, he will do just fine.

O'Reilly will most likely hurl several baited, accusatory questions toward RP in record time, and our hero will only be able to respond to a couple of them. Once his guest is gone, O'Reilly will accuse RP of dodging issues that he didn't allow him to address.

I am confident that Ron Paul will wisely choose which arguments to make, as he is surely aware that he has a small window of time in which to express himself.

Ron Paul is a patient and meek person. He's also very wise, and is able to get fired up and stand his ground when provoked while keeping his cool. The last debate proved this. He is energized. I think his intelligent, educated meekness is a positive trait that helps him stand out. Let's hope that the meek shall inherit the presidency :)

LarryWhite
09-07-2007, 09:33 PM
The few times I've seen O Reily's show and the Iraq war has come up, he's been less than thrilled about it. He's for the War on Terror, but he's not as much of a cheerleader for Iraq as the others.

That probably won't make a difference, but I expect he'll focus more on War on Terror than Iraq.

familydog
09-07-2007, 09:40 PM
I agree with several points here. As a long time O'Reilly viewer, I do know that he is more kind to elected officials than others. He disagrees with Chuck Schumer on almost everything, for example, and he has always been fair to him and even promoted the senator's book. Also, Fox may care a lot about promoting a neo-con agenda, but they also care about ratings. That's why they cover so much gossip and trash stories. So, if Dr. Paul gives huge ratings, they may indeed spend more time covering him, and not in a negative light (unless it's Sean).

Mr. Paul will do great. I'm sure he will win the debate. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I don't see this hurting Dr. Paul, and I'll bet it raises interest in him even more. Not ALL of his viewers are neo-con scum (a lot maybe...). Besides foreign policy issues, Bill has a lot in common with Ron Paul's views.

Shellshock1918
09-07-2007, 09:48 PM
Are you kidding me? Ron Paul on O'Reilly? This would seem like Obi Wan Knobi against Darth Vader.

"If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"


Actually it reminds me of Yoda vs Sidious. :)

billm317
09-07-2007, 09:51 PM
Not ALL of his viewers are neo-con scum (a lot maybe...). Besides foreign policy issues, Bill has a lot in common with Ron Paul's views.

I'd like to hear O'Reilly reminded of that on the air, so his viewers can hear it. There are lots of people who watch his show who aren't just thrilled with the war. Two of my close friends are big O'Reilly fans but are about fed up with us in Iraq. These are the type of people who need to hear that Dr. Paul IS actually very conservative, despite what Hannity wants them to think.

SWATH
09-07-2007, 09:56 PM
He will become Ron Paul the White

Actually I think Ron Paul the grey became Ron Paul the white after Giuliani "slapped him down"

Mordechai Vanunu
09-07-2007, 10:05 PM
He will become Ron Paul the White

Actually I think Ron Paul the grey became Ron Paul the white after Giuliani "slapped him down"

All he needs now is a staff.

Mordechai Vanunu
09-07-2007, 10:09 PM
Anyone here ever listened to Bill O'Reilly's radio show?

He's noticeably less "neocon" when he isn't on Faux News...

Bison
09-07-2007, 10:10 PM
It will be interesting to see how his poll numbers do nation wide after he starts to make appearences like this. He really does have to do shows like this if he wants to gain nation wide support. If he turned Oreilly down, Bill would hammer him every chance he got, saying how Ron Paul was scared to answer the tough questions.

disinter
09-07-2007, 10:17 PM
He will be just as rude as Hannity. I hope RP tears him apart with reason and logic.

randolphus maximus
09-07-2007, 10:30 PM
According to the O'Relly Factor Wikipedia article (which you find here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_O'Reilly_Factor)) Dr Paul has already declined to appear on his show once. When was that?

If I recall, I think it was when Michelle Malkin was guest hosting for O'reilly immediately following a prior debate

Bison
09-07-2007, 10:39 PM
Your right. It was right after she accused him of attending a truther meeting. In fact it was the truthers who attended a regularly scheduled fundraising event. RP had no idea they would be there.

She did not rate the interview. Why should RP have settled for a second rate host and one who had her facts screwed up at that. She ended up retracting what she wrote.

thomj76
09-07-2007, 10:40 PM
Can we get an email to send thanks to the show for having Ron Paul on? If we can direct thoughtful and intelligent emails to show our appreciation, it may set the interview up on good grounds.

For example:

Good Day, Mr. O'Reilly:

Thank you very much for having Congressman Ron Paul on your show. I was born in Houston, Texas, the son of a US government teacher. One of the first politicians that I ever knew of was Dr. Ron Paul. It was an extremely disheartening event when I learned that he was one of the exceptions and not the norm for those that represent us in Washington DC. The fact that he has helped bring into our country thousands of beautiful people resonates as to the character of this man.

The Republican party stands at a crossroads in history that will impact the future of our country. This is far more important than any 30 second sound bite. I have seen your good nature when it comes to judges doing a disservice to responsibility to uphold justice.

Humbly I pray that this side of O'Reilly will come out to play so that there may be a balanced and intelligent discourse upon the reasons for Limited Government and Liberty. At this time, our country desperately needs to become informed so that they may make an intelligent decision come this next election. For too long, I have seen half-truths and outright lies used as gospel for the direction that this country should go.

Ron Paul voted to go into Afghanistan and to remove the Taliban Government that had become a safe-harbor and training ground for terrorists. When it came to Iraq, he alone was the voice of reason in a time of chaos that said we should proceed according to the US Constitution and that Congress should declare war if they were serious about going into Iraq. His motion within committee was quashed with the rebuff of that's not the way we fight wars these days.

As I look back along the time the the War Powers Act has been used, I concur that there needs to be a way for the country to react quickly in a response to a national threat. I hope that you would agree that there have been times that this power has been abused, and that there was a better way to proceed if our country indeed was serious about going to war. That better way is the constitutional way, and in my opinion it would have sent a much stronger message to those that would do us harm in regard to our unity in proceeding with violent action.

I fully support the men and women in our armed services; I served in the US Navy myself during Desert Shield and Desert Storm. I know that Ron Paul fully supports these heroes of our country as well. I feel it does a genuine disservice to those that sacrifice their time and lives in service of this country to go against the US Constitution.

The Rule of Law I would say is applicable to Ron Paul. If our government can not enforce the laws that currently exist on the books, it approaches the realm of ludicrous that the answer would in fact be more laws and bigger bureaucracies.


Thank you again for your time and efforts, and I look forward to a fair and balanced no spin zone.


Earnestly Submitted,

Christopher F. Dillard


Thats the email I just sent.

RevolutionSD
09-07-2007, 10:44 PM
O'reilly will try to yell over the calm and reasoned Dr. Paul about his CRAZY notion that our foreign policy being one of the causes of 9/11. O'liely will also tell Ron Paul he has no chance, guaranteed.

Should be good times.

huchahucha
09-07-2007, 11:30 PM
I think you guys are overreacting. I don't mind sharing that I watch O'Reilly almost every night and I think this will be a piece of cake for Ron Paul. First of all, as far as I can tell O'Reilly's stance on the war is that we should give the surge a chance, but pull out if the Iraqi government doesn't pull their heads out of their collective ass pretty damned quick. Secondly, he never goes on the attack unless a guest dodges a question - and I have never seen Ron Paul do that. I'll even go so far as to say O'Reilly is probably doing this because he was disgusted with his colleagues behavior during the debate, so he is making reprimands with air time. Either that, or he is smarter than his colleagues and realizes that having the undefeated winner of the FOX Republican debates on his show will be ratings gold. Either way, who cares? Ron Paul is always civilized and ALWAYS answers the question - Bill is going to have no choice but to be civilized as well. Also, Bill always reads viewer mail at the end of his show, so Ron Paul will be getting mentioned on Tuesday night too.

ronpaulyourmom
09-07-2007, 11:38 PM
Paul has ideas outside of the mainstream. He cant win if the ideas are not spread. This is an opportunity, regardless of how Bill treats him.

The most important thing for Ron will be to keep his anxiety in check. He cannot raise his voice or get antsy, which in my opinion he has a small but still detectable tendency to do.

Slugg
09-07-2007, 11:43 PM
Are you kidding me? Ron Paul on O'Reilly? This would seem like Obi Wan Knobi against Darth Vader.

LOL....I hope Ron doesn't make the same mistake Obi Wan did and leave him alive. That ruined the galaxy. :(

Richandler
09-08-2007, 12:02 AM
You know what, as biased as Fox is and as much as they tried to belittle RP at the debate, that debate got 3.1 million viewers and the most exciting part was the Paul/Huckabee exchange.

While I would not put anything past O'Really and Fox, they just may also realize that RP might mean higher ratings - and if that is the case that WILL get RP mainstream media exposure. He is unique as the only anti-war Republican candidate AND he is more anti-war than any legit Dem.

I still don't trust Fox, but I wonder if they might be trying to see what this does for ratings. EVERYBODY should tune in. If RP turns into ratings the MSM will clamor to have him on.

This is so true. Ron Paul supporters gave Fox 3.1 million viewers for the debate. Ron Paul will equal money but we can't bow out now. We can't act like the guy from the quote below. WE MUST GIVE BILL O'REILLY THE BIGGEST RATINGS HES HAD ALL YEAR. WE MUST SHOW THE ENTIRE MSM THAT PAUL IS FOR REAL!


I don't watch Bill "O'Really?" I think he and Geraldo Rivera are perverts.

I think Ron Paul should decline. Bill isn't going to let RP get a sentence in. I won't watch it if it does happen.

Sorry to be so negative but I think Ron Paul should decline that sleazeball's invitation. (But I still think RP would "pwn" OReilly)

ksuguy
09-08-2007, 12:07 AM
Ron will have to be aggressive and refuse to take shit from O'reilly. Otherwise, he will get steamrolled, cut off, and interrupted.

quickmike
09-08-2007, 12:10 AM
Your right. It was right after she accused him of attending a truther meeting. In fact it was the truthers who attended a regularly scheduled fundraising event. RP had no idea they would be there.

She did not rate the interview. Why should RP have settled for a second rate host and one who had her facts screwed up at that. She ended up retracting what she wrote.

For the life of me, I cant figure out why Malkin is on ANY news station. I mean, Id nail her, and make her do the dishes and leave, but thats about the only thing I can say even half way positive about her. Shes been wrong on so many things in the past. Nobody takes her seriously and even alot of neo-cons I know think shes just a joke. Fox News answer to Nancy Grace, but without any of the qualifications.

amonasro
09-08-2007, 12:19 AM
Ron Paul has 1000 times more credibility and experience than O'reilly has in one strand of hair. If he bullies him Ron will verbally smack him upside the head and make him listen. My guess is that O'reilly is smart enough to KNOW that he can't bully him, so he will be semi-respectable. I predict it will get heated, but Ron will hold his own just like every other interview where they try to corner him.

torchbearer
09-08-2007, 12:25 AM
I was having a daydream about Bill O'Reilly becoming a Ron Paul supporter after he matches wits with Dr. Paul and realises how wrong he's been all along.... then I wake up

quickmike
09-08-2007, 12:44 AM
I was having a daydream about Bill O'Reilly becoming a Ron Paul supporter after he matches wits with Dr. Paul and realises how wrong he's been all along.... then I wake up

I JUST HAD THE SAME DREAM!!!

Except when I woke up, Rudy was next to me dressed in drag, and when I ripped his mask off, it was O'Reilly again.

then I really woke up.................... i think.

maybe im dreaming this post right now.

honkywill
09-08-2007, 12:46 AM
I'm really looking forward to this.

Marceline88
09-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Ever noticed how Billy boy always claims to be a Libertarian......do you think this is really true????

quickmike
09-08-2007, 12:52 AM
Ever noticed how Billy boy always claims to be a Libertarian......do you think this is really true????

No, hes an Independant more than anything. In almost no way is he libertarian.

purplechoe
09-08-2007, 01:08 AM
Ever noticed how Billy boy always claims to be a Libertarian......do you think this is really true????

His true colors will shine when Ron shows up. He might surprise us, but I doubt it.

libertarian4321
09-08-2007, 02:37 AM
How very interesting. I have been wondering about how O'Reilly takes to this "rogue" republican.

I suspect O'Reilly will do what he usually does with anyone who isn't a neocon- he'll start attacking. If the guest fights back, O'reilly will turn red and start yelling. If the guest continues to fight back, O'reilly will cut his microphone. End of "fair and balanced" interview...

Phenom24
09-08-2007, 03:49 AM
Looks like I'll be busy at Fred Thompson Forum (http://fredthompsonforum.com/index.php).

I just read the Matt Hasselbeck thread. Funny stuff.

blazin_it_alwyz
09-08-2007, 02:05 PM
For the life of me, I cant figure out why Malkin is on ANY news station. I mean, Id nail her, and make her do the dishes and leave, but thats about the only thing I can say even half way positive about her qualifications.

mmmmmmmm Michelle Malkin.

She is fine with me........ that is, until she starts talking:rolleyes:

Scribbler de Stebbing
09-08-2007, 02:34 PM
For the life of me, I cant figure out why Malkin is on ANY news station. I mean, Id nail her, and make her do the dishes and leave, but thats about the only thing I can say even half way positive about her.

You must make some lucky girl out there very happy.

Kuldebar
09-08-2007, 02:43 PM
Local Fox News is generally alright, the national shows are where things get blatantly slanted. The more popular the show, the more rabid the host or hosts tend to be. The O'Reilly Factor is one of Fox News most popular shows.

I can see an appearance on a show like O'Reilly play out a number of ways, the more likely is that Bill will end up doing most the talking:

BO: Congressman Paul, you are an isolationist, ya, I know you don't like that label, but that's in fact what you are, that theory of foreign policy went out of style, and rightfully so about 100 years ago. I think you need to wake up and realize the real world and get out of that libertarian wonderland you are living in.

RP: Well, I disag...

BO: Congressman Paul we are out of time. Thanks for watching the Factor. The No Spin Zone, goodnight!

That's his most common method. Bill often uses his guests presence to simply lambaste them while curtailing their time for response and rebuttal.

With weaker personalities, he can just have the guest so confuzzled they stop making coherent statements, I don't see that as a likely with Ron Paul.

There are many other things:

-taking things out of context in a constant manner

-using extremes to "prove' something is unwise or crazy

-being "nice' while belittling, diminishing or humoring

-continually denouncing by using "layered facts" to destroy a concept (Example: You say some very interesting things, but Islamo-Fascists and Global Terrorism requires our Nation to fight it in order to survive, coming back home and closing our eyes to it, is not a solution.)

Ron Paul could easily rebut the statement but would need time to explain things:
1.) Yes, we have enemies and they are dangerous.
2.) We are helping our enemies recruit new members by our presence in Iraq and elsewhere
3.) Having a strong defense and protecting our borders while minding our business overseas will make us safer.

The host could simply interrupt with more question while Paul answers the original question thus making Paul's position seem jumbled, disjointed and unclear.

--------------------------------
Blowhard hosts who have agendas will be a challenge to get a message out, they will attempt to make Paul's presentation to appear choppy and all over the board. Despite whatever OReilly claims to be: libertarian, independent, etc...he is an authoritarian. He believes that compulsion is an acceptable solution to solve human problems.

None of this stuff is insurmountable to Ron Paul, he is a veteran of discussion and debate, but such Fox appearances may be somewhat mediocre when compared to Paul's other appearances.

Brasil Branco
09-08-2007, 02:44 PM
For those of you saying that O'Reilly will be disrespectful and cut off his microphone, I beg to differ.

This is a 70+ year old presidential candidate who has served his country in the military and as a congressman, not a nobody that O'Reilly can shout down like he usually does. Plus, O'Reilly isn't the brightest tool in the shed- Paul can out talk him anyway of the week.

Cowlesy
09-08-2007, 02:46 PM
O'Reilly's kung-fu is not strong.

Cowlesy
09-08-2007, 02:49 PM
oreilly@foxnews.com, oreilly@foxnews.com Name & Town Name & Town if you wish to opine...don't be a popinjay.

Everyone's homework for Monday evening is to carefully listen, and dissect where Bill O'Reilly skews Ron Paul's points, and then send a SUCCINCT email to get on the air the next evening.

Bison
09-08-2007, 03:27 PM
For those of you saying that O'Reilly will be disrespectful and cut off his microphone, I beg to differ.

This is a 70+ year old presidential candidate who has served his country in the military and as a congressman, not a nobody that O'Reilly can shout down like he usually does. Plus, O'Reilly isn't the brightest tool in the shed- Paul can out talk him anyway of the week.

Good point. I don't recall seeing Oreilly shout down a Congressman or Senator.

Cowlesy
09-08-2007, 03:32 PM
Good point. I don't recall seeing Oreilly shout down a Congressman or Senator.

Chris Dodd? Though I think Dodd absolutely deserved it. He is about as bland and wishy-washy as they come.

Brasil Branco
09-08-2007, 03:35 PM
Chris Dodd? Though I think Dodd absolutely deserved it. He is about as bland and wishy-washy as they come.

Not really. He was calling O'Reilly out and exposing what he was trying to do.

Taxidriver2929
09-08-2007, 04:10 PM
Actually the two things he got on O'Reilly about where the two biggest piles of media matters propaganda that exsited. The San Franciso thing was an absolute Joke then they pretended that he wanted them to get attacked(I actually heard the whole thing and a minute before and after). And the other thing where he like denegrates some one every like 1.8 seconds or something rediculous like that was from I think indiana university and George soros(owner of MMFA) gave 5 million to the school. And in the study they counted ever time he said like liberal, conservative, moderate, independent, ect. as an attack and even then that was not true and they made the number up.

Taxidriver2929
09-08-2007, 04:14 PM
Ever noticed how Billy boy always claims to be a Libertarian......do you think this is really true????

He has never claimed to be a libertarian he says he's an independent who is a traditionalist which is accurate cause, his stance on gun control, gay marriage, the death penalty don't make him a neo con. Plus he isn't a cheerleader like hannity or limbaugh.

interpaul
09-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Here it is:

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v132/181/1/47702302/n47702302_30272834_9478.jpg

Cowlesy
09-08-2007, 06:00 PM
O'Reilly is BIG about protecting kids against Child Molestors who get wimpy sentences.

Ron Paul would make O'Reilly a Cheerleader if he would advocate that States Rights means that States should take a tough stance against these child molestors.

O'Reilly will try and tear him down by saying he doesn't advocate gov't intervention, when in fact RP does advocate States taking this matter into their own hands (Jessica's Law).

Scribbler de Stebbing
09-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Oh great. A chalk outline. Upon arrival, are they intending to pronounce him -- oh, never mind.

constituent
09-08-2007, 06:53 PM
alred hitchcock... cute...

guess they're playing off the 'weird' thing.

Bison
09-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Is that a Fox Banner or did you make that?

huchahucha
09-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Sorry, I'm too lazy to go back and look for the quote in the thread about O'Reilly being Libertarian but...

I have never heard Bill O'Reilly claim to be Libertarian, but I hear Bill Maher say it all the time and he has become the living, breathing, walking, talking definition of a "statist" for me. I don't know that RP converted Maher, but he certainly knocked him off guard. I think Maher is a tougher customer than O'Reilly, and RP handled him with no problem. Also, there was mention on this thread about Senator Dodd on O'Reilly's show. O'Reilly slammed him on his show, and if I'm not mistaken Bill Maher went after him too after Dodd tried to say that RP thinks 911 was our fault. I think it was the same episode where Maher called RP his new hero.

AdamT
09-08-2007, 09:04 PM
O'Liely will totally trash RP, talk over him, and go all lengths to discredit and make him look like a fool. O'Liely is a piece of lying trash with a black soul.

Johnnybags
09-08-2007, 09:13 PM
Oreilly's only job is to make Ron look like a kook, they tried at the debate, I was there, it was a disrespectful, disgusting display of arrogance and they still failed, Oreilly is the kingfish of Neocon pond and he will be rude, abusive, ask stupid questions, make smirks in disgust and outright slander him on TV. I know it, you know it. Fox News has been infiltrated by our government. They are on the dole. Its no different the Pravda except they get to keep the profits. Make no mistake, Rons thoughts take more than 10 seconds to explain. Its FAUX news last shot to stop the freight train and they will fire with all bullets. Oreilly is a putz! If I were Ron I would go on but with conditions, such as time to answer, we know Ron does not spin, but that does not mean Putz Oreilly will let him answer.

0zzy
09-08-2007, 09:14 PM
Going right inside the belly of the beast!

yaz
09-09-2007, 02:49 AM
this is what's gonna happen:

billo: so you're saying we should do what bin laden and al qaeda wants?

rp: i'm saying we should do what the constitution says.

billo: read me the article now in the constitution.. right now in 2 seconds... ha! times up which means u lose

rp: the war...

billo: cut his mic!!

Vonhayek7
09-09-2007, 03:10 AM
this is what's gonna happen:

billo: so you're saying we should do what bin laden and al qaeda wants?

rp: i'm saying we should do what the constitution says.

billo: read me the article now in the constitution.. right now in 2 seconds... ha! times up which means u lose

rp: the war...

billo: cut his mic!!

Exactly.

Slugg
09-09-2007, 04:31 AM
Going right inside the belly of the beast!

Yup. And as bad as this sounds. If Ron can't go in and come out relatively unscathed, we never could have won anyway. I honestly believe this. Ron not only HAS to go on; he has to 'win.'*

*By 'win' I mean not be made to look like a kook, fringe, or stupid. It's all going to depend on the terms the campaign agreed to. Remember, the campaign understands Bill O'Reilly just as much as we do (perhaps better). So, hopefully they covered the bases. But, we'll see.

I really think it will be more like the last Hannity and Paul interview. Obvious attacks, but not overbearing.

thomj76
09-09-2007, 07:16 AM
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v132/181/1/47702302/n47702302_30272834_9478.jpg

It's an Alfred Hitchcock reference to me.

wsc321
09-09-2007, 08:48 AM
Yep - Ron Paul *has* to do this. I'll admit I'm nervous, but I'm also very hopeful. O'Reilly and FNC are facing a challenge like they've never encountered and I think there's a new dimension to it...

I believe FNC tried their best to set up Ron Paul for TOTAL dismissal in the last debate. When the Huckabee/Paul exchange occurred it was precisely the type of moment they were gunning for: some type of politically charged exchange that would crush Ron Paul and end his campaign.

What appears to have happened, though, is wonderful: the tactic backfired, and Ron has been getting more media attention. Ron basically STOLE THE SHOW with his responses. One man took on the rest of the GOP field, plus the overtly biased FNC, and shaped the debate.

O'Reilly's interview could be "make or break" time for Paul's campaign. If O'Reilly tries his usual bully nonsense, it could backfire again and I don't believe that is a risk O'Reilly is used to. (At least not at this level.) I truly believe (not just wishful thinking) that more Americans - particularly at this moment due to the multiple crisis we face - are willing to question what they're being told and way more sensitive to media unfairness.

If O'Reilly comes across as having used cheap shots, tricks, or other such tactics (which - make no mistake - are his SECURITY BLANKET), he risks fully legitimizing Paul's campaign. All RP has to do is take the You Tube clip - which will go viral - and post the applicable part on the front page of his website with a caption like, "Is this freedom? Is this the America you want? Why is the media afraid of this message?"

OK - so my little strategy idea may not be best... but I think the underlying risk to FNC, and the MSM, and the opportunity for massive gain to Paul's campaign is there.

torchbearer
09-09-2007, 08:55 AM
I hope Ron Paul is in studio and is carrying a knife... he will need it.

Brasil Branco
09-10-2007, 07:13 AM
Well, today is the big day.

dude58677
09-10-2007, 07:27 AM
Ron Paul is going to have to be like Phil Donahue during this interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c

FluffyUnbound
09-10-2007, 07:28 AM
I hope Ron Paul is in studio and is carrying a knife... he will need it.

Anyone think he might want to walk into the studios by the back door? You know, just in case O'Reilly arranges for a John Hinckley sabbatical in the lobby?

Scribbler de Stebbing
09-10-2007, 07:32 AM
I hope Ron Paul is in studio and is carrying a knife... he will need it.

Or a cup of coffee. (Scroll to post #3 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=16977))

V4Vendetta
09-10-2007, 09:33 AM
Ron Paul - Speak about the constitution and the founding Fathers ALOT

School him on the constitution and the founding of this great nation!

Brasil Branco
09-10-2007, 09:35 AM
Ron Paul - Speak about the constitution and the founding Fathers ALOT

School him on the constitution and the founding of this great nation!

Beat him down with a copy of the constitution. It burns his skin, he can't touch that holy document.

Bison
09-10-2007, 09:37 AM
Ron Paul - Speak about the constitution and the founding Fathers ALOT

School him on the constitution and the founding of this great nation!

He always Does. Tonight should be no different. Although Oreilly is going to want to discuss the Petraeus report.

ghemminger
09-10-2007, 09:38 AM
Yep - Ron Paul *has* to do this. I'll admit I'm nervous, but I'm also very hopeful. O'Reilly and FNC are facing a challenge like they've never encountered and I think there's a new dimension to it...

I believe FNC tried their best to set up Ron Paul for TOTAL dismissal in the last debate. When the Huckabee/Paul exchange occurred it was precisely the type of moment they were gunning for: some type of politically charged exchange that would crush Ron Paul and end his campaign.

What appears to have happened, though, is wonderful: the tactic backfired, and Ron has been getting more media attention. Ron basically STOLE THE SHOW with his responses. One man took on the rest of the GOP field, plus the overtly biased FNC, and shaped the debate.

O'Reilly's interview could be "make or break" time for Paul's campaign. If O'Reilly tries his usual bully nonsense, it could backfire again and I don't believe that is a risk O'Reilly is used to. (At least not at this level.) I truly believe (not just wishful thinking) that more Americans - particularly at this moment due to the multiple crisis we face - are willing to question what they're being told and way more sensitive to media unfairness.

If O'Reilly comes across as having used cheap shots, tricks, or other such tactics (which - make no mistake - are his SECURITY BLANKET), he risks fully legitimizing Paul's campaign. All RP has to do is take the You Tube clip - which will go viral - and post the applicable part on the front page of his website with a caption like, "Is this freedom? Is this the America you want? Why is the media afraid of this message?"

OK - so my little strategy idea may not be best... but I think the underlying risk to FNC, and the MSM, and the opportunity for massive gain to Paul's campaign is there.


This is it - And I agree wholheartly....We will see how smart MR. Bill really is tonight - If he goes into attack mode that will signal the end of his career....I will do my best to cover it live on RP Radio!

Ridiculous
09-10-2007, 09:39 AM
This is what is is on O'Reilly's website, it looks like he is looking to pick a fight with words like "showdown" and "head-to-head"

• Showdown Over Iraq: Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul goes head-to-head with Bill

Bison
09-10-2007, 09:42 AM
Could be, but it sounds like it just might be marketing hype to get people to watch.

nullvalu
09-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Oh Christ.. IT'S ON.. You know he's going to repeat the same rubbish and to tout the patreaus report saying we need to give the war more time and if we pull out there would be chaos... blah blah..

RevolutionSD
09-10-2007, 09:44 AM
bill o will likely run with the "looney libertarian" angle, and include an attack on ron for not supporting the troops or something.

My prediction is bill o will start by rattling off about 4 of RP's issues and make them seem crazy. Then he will let Ron say about 5 words, and then just BLAST him, call him a name or two, and tell him he has "no chance" to win the GOP anyway.

nullvalu
09-10-2007, 09:46 AM
Yep.. RP needs to be ready to throw down.. seriously.. :D Wouldn't you love to see RP clock O'Reilly? LMAO.. j/k

BuddyRey
09-10-2007, 09:54 AM
My psyche is like a pendulum today. I'm swinging from extreme optimism about RP's apearance tonight to extreme dread and "what if" thinking in the course of a minute. This day is a real nailbiter for my RP-loving family and I.

Brasil Branco
09-10-2007, 09:56 AM
This is what is is on O'Reilly's website, it looks like he is looking to pick a fight with words like "showdown" and "head-to-head"

• Showdown Over Iraq: Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul goes head-to-head with Bill

And here I was thinking Ron would finally be able to talk about his domestic policies...

richard1984
09-10-2007, 09:58 AM
My psyche is like a pendulum today. I'm swinging from extreme optimism about RP's apearance tonight to extreme dread and "what if" thinking in the course of a minute. This day is a real nailbiter for my RP-loving family and I.

ditto.

But I have faith in Dr. Paul's abilities. If anyone can succeed, it's Ron Paul!

goldenequity
09-10-2007, 10:10 AM
O'Reilly live here
http://affiliates.foxnewsradio.com/Radio/player.html