Shame on ANYONE who helps OBAMA

[NH4RonPaul]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?

The coming police state...very scary to think Ron Paul supporters would actually have helped bring it on. At least McCain/Palin has never said anything as horrible as this! If they had, the press would have been all over them.. for sure. But you give Obama a pass? You ought to be ashamed to be called Ron Paul supporters.

This is pretty scary stuff. Obama is a pretty horrid person.

From Obama's Berlin Speech: "We cannot to continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we have set. We have got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." He added, "People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve."

In my opinion, Obama's "civilian national security force" will be used to enforce speech codes, the "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" and DRACONIAN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS, right here on our own soil in violation of POSSE COMITATAS.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=69601

This man Obama is a truly scary demagogue who deserves to be questioned much more than he has been. It is sad that our press is corrupt in this country and no longer can be trusted to do this job satisfactorily.

Instead they make up things and deny that he has ever said these things even though they are recorded on video.

[nodope0695]

Amen, brutha, or sista!

[Cowlesy]

These Obama supporters will blindly welcome the new-age tyranny with open arms as he disguises it with the flag and patriotism.

[werdd]

These Obama supporters will blindly welcome the new-age tyranny with open arms as he disguises it with the flag and patriotism.

"When facism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag carrying the cross." -sinclair lewis, as quoted by Ron Paul during the republican primaries.

[Liberty Star]

Obama could be bad for America and may become a puppet in the hands of anti american groups like aipac but GOP has been a disaster itself and there's not huge difference between Obama & McCain.

The way Republicans treated Ron Paul and libertarian movement, they deserve a crushing defeat in election for that on top of disastrous last 8 years policies.

[Madison]

"When facism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag carrying the cross." -sinclair lewis, as quoted by Ron Paul during the republican primaries.

Classic Ron Paul moment, on Fox News no less. I remember they cut to commercial right when he said that.

[FindLiberty]

Obama could be bad for America and may become a puppet in the hands of anti american groups like aipac but GOP has been a disaster itself and there's not huge difference between Obama & McCain.

The way Republicans treated Ron Paul and libertarian movement, they deserve a crushing defeat in election for that on top of disastrous last 8 years policies.

+1 Your wish has been granted. Now you have only two remaining wishes...

[cheapseats]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?






The way Republicans treated Ron Paul and libertarian movement, they deserve a crushing defeat in election for that on top of disastrous last 8 years policies.


Insult to Ron Paul ranks above State of the Union?

It is the thinking of PUMA's.

[tonesforjonesbones]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA

[cheapseats]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA

'Tis true.

[cheapseats]

Just about the last thing in the world that I need is more enemies and detractors. I don’t need them, I don’t want them, it is not in my interest to incite them.

Come Wednesday, I will shift my focus OFF of politics and ON to prosperity. They are different animals, with prosperity trumping politics. Another hit to my portfolio is what I need even less than more enemies and detractors.

Prosperity, in my venue, obliges me to APPEAL to people’s Reason, and to persuade them that Reason is impervious to popularity. I don’t need people to like me…I’m not running for office…but I do need people to support me. Bummer. I like the idea of mankind more than I like people.

My point is that I am hardly parading onto a board of 20,000-plus members and who-knows-how-many-viewers in order to poke them in the eye with a hot stick. If you FEEL like I poke you in the eye with a hot stick, I will say what has been said forever: feelings will not kill you.

Moreover, posting this on election morning from three hours behind the East Coast and weeks behind Early Votes…a.k.a. trapped votes…is unlikely to influence any decisions or consequences.

That said, looking forward, I cannot NOT remark on some of the unthinking reverence for Ron Paul and cherry-picked Libertarian ideas.

Ron Paul advises his supporters to hang out there on a limb, while he himself remains snugly ensconced in the Republican party. His supporters should gamble with the election and our future, while he declines to gamble with his own career. When the contest deteriorated into a warmonger and a witch vs. a muslim and a mouth, why did he not boldly transform his movement to a bona fide Libertarian bid for the White House?

I know, I know…strategery.

When the country implodes, the not-great Great Majority will be drawn to Ron Paul Republicanism as by a magnet, and will trip over themselves in their hast to elect Ron Paul candidates. There is the fanciful thought that with an Obama victory, the country will descend into such an abyss that all and sundry will finally look to Ron Paul and Paulites for redemption.

If an Obama victory sinks America into a socialist malaise…with lots and lots of new civil-read-that-loyalist law enforcement…I suggest that another scenario is equally likely.

So many more people will be reliant upon government-read-that-taxpayer largesse under Obama, that it will be HARDER to enlist Libertarian recruits. Ron Paul will still be a Republican Congressman, whose diminutive stature and inflexible views may be no more persuasive than they have been for the PAST THIRTY YEARS. The logic that people whose best ideas turned out to suck will turn gratefully to the people whose ideas were rejected seldom plays out in actuality. People typically resent the we-told-you-so crowd. If an Obama victory sinks America into a socialist malaise…with lots and lots of new civil-read-that-loyalist law enforcement…die-hard Libertarians who LET Obama win are likely to be rejected as recklessly self-centered Fringe.

[RickyJ]

Shame on anyone here that is voting for Obama/McCain.

Ron Paul told us who he is voting for and I like him too. Let's get out the vote for Chuck Baldwin and then see how well he does.

[Danke]

Shame, Shame, Shame!

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[Doktor_Jeep]

How is the election of Obama any different from what we had?

The only credit for democrats is that advertise up front what they will do to you.

With Republicans, you spend 4-8 years trying to tell people they are being screwed, and they won't believe it. Then you end up being drummed off "conservative" websites, kicked out of gun clubs, and lose friends, being called a "leftist", un-patriotic, or a tin foil hat nutter.

Now the funny part is, all of those idiots will be on my side. .But fuck them. You will never gain useful allies from people whose own moral hazards and delusions is what brought on the problem to begin with.

Republican party is getting a well-deserved death.

I will take great amusement in the gnashing of teeth and anguish of all those McCain delegates who waddled their way to the various state conventions in support of McShitstain and cheated Ron Paul out of a real chance.


Meanwhile, as America is destroyed, WE should begin forming a community of mutual defense (that is, when fellow patriots are charged with hate crimes or made criminals for not obeying the Socialist state, we put them underground), WE should be forming a black market based on REAL Money (start trading with each other using silver, over contracts that have nothing to do with government), WE should be circumventing Web 2.0 with encryption and parallel infrastructure, WE should be using pirate radio and getting around the comming apocalypse of "equal time" (for to fight that would be defensing Limbaugh and others, who were part of the problem).

WE should be doing all that and more, not complaining about votes, or waiting for Mordor to grant us rights.

It was folly to think we could reform this government in the first place, with consideration of how controlled the game really is. It is insanity to do it again and expect the same results we expected before.

[cheapseats]

How is the election of Obama any different from what we had?

Disingenuous.



The only credit for democrats is that advertise up front what they will do to you.

There is also the matter of so many more millions becoming reliant upon the government. The Majority will be financially reliant upon the government. Expecting them to bite the hand that feeds them, on principle, is what is folly.




With Republicans, you spend 4-8 years trying to tell people they are being screwed, and they won't believe it. Then you end up being drummed off "conservative" websites, kicked out of gun clubs, and lose friends, being called a "leftist", un-patriotic, or a tin foil hat nutter.


It sucks, I would know. It's also when you can be sure you're thinking for yourself.




Now the funny part is, all of those idiots will be on my side. .


No, they won't.



But fuck them.


Safety in minorities? Fuck 'em is a sentiment for those already in command of their own destiny. I don't care how far you fly under the radar, Libertarians have to deal with bullshit just like the rest of us. Less of it, to be sure, and good on you. But if we run a surplus on one thing, it's bullshit.



You will never gain useful allies from people whose own moral hazards and delusions is what brought on the problem to begin with.

It is important to distinguish between kindred spirits and useful allies.




Republican party is getting a well-deserved death.


Rumors of its death have been greatly exaggerated.




I will take great amusement in the gnashing of teeth and anguish of all those McCain delegates who waddled their way to the various state conventions in support of McShitstain and cheated Ron Paul out of a real chance.

Cheated Ron Paul, as in he is a total victim? He did nothing wrong at all? He, too, is infallible?

I know from whence I speak when I say that your anger is getting the best of you.




Meanwhile, as America is destroyed, WE should begin forming a community of mutual defense (that is, when fellow patriots are charged with hate crimes or made criminals for not obeying the Socialist state, we put them underground), WE should be forming a black market based on REAL Money (start trading with each other using silver, over contracts that have nothing to do with government), WE should be circumventing Web 2.0 with encryption and parallel infrastructure, WE should be using pirate radio and getting around the comming apocalypse of "equal time" (for to fight that would be defensing Limbaugh and others, who were part of the problem).

WE should be doing all that and more, not complaining about votes, or waiting for Mordor to grant us rights.

Should have DONE. Should have pulled it off, but didn't.

It happens. Hence the advice to try and try again.

But to willfully chose worsening conditions for the country as a whole in order for an enlightened few to better pursue their Sales & Marketing is, speaking of moral hazards, pretty bizarre.



It was folly to think we could reform this government in the first place, with consideration of how controlled the game really is. It is insanity to do it again and expect the same results we expected before.

Nonsense. Governments and rulers have turned inept and tyrannical throughout the history of man. Inept, tyrannical governments and rulers have been destroyed and replaced throughout the history of man. Overthrows of inept, tyrannical governments and rulers seldom occur easily or on the first concerted effort.

Ye of little Faith, eh?

[cheapseats]

Observe how Obama's potential victory is not heralded as the First Socialist but as the First Black.

In the fullness of time, I think the oddity/extremity of some of Sarah Palin's leanings will be less significant than First Woman.

Hell, five kids would make anyone nuts. The ordinariness of her intellect is offset by a Get 'Er Done quotient that cannot be mistaken, and the importance of which cannot be understated. She will demystify the vice presidency, after Dick Cheney's cloak-and-dagger bullshit.

McCain is a womanizer and an adulterer. First female Vice President kinda balances that out. Biden and Obama are both the worst kind of sexists, the kind who think they AREN'T sexist. Check out Biden's ooh-la-la remark about Dennis Kucinich's wife at the Pink Jacket debate...i.e. the one where John Edwards remarked on Hillary's choice of attire. But there is no word whatever, none, about Obama's sexual past which rather speaks to the chasteness of Islam, or perhaps to a bevy of Ex's who are surprisingly content to keep quiet when you consider what tabloids will pay for a scoop.

"Just a minute Sweetie" to a professional journalist? Oh, brother.

If there are any Women Undecideds, I sense that they would better cast a vote for McCain than for Obama. Come to think of it, McCain is on record NOT that he will appoint a woman to the highest office in his Administration, but that he will appoint MORE WOMEN TO MORE SENIOR POSITIONS than any prior Administration.

A little less testosterone (for we know that Republicans will not go Girls Gone Wild) or a lot more black militancy (scratch that, stridency)...lemme think.

[pcosmar]

I expect that I will apply for welfare tomorrow. I have never been on any kind of public assistance and been actively seeking employment for 3 years.
I will apply for every dime I can get, in the hopes that it will hasten the collapse of the present system.

Burn baby burn.:p

[heavenlyboy34]

Observe how Obama's potential victory is not heralded as the First Socialist but as the First Black.


That's cuz he's not the first socialist. FDR was socialist, and I could probably think of more if I had time.

[Wendi]

There does seem to be a growing sentiment to go ahead and elect the worst candidate, who will most quickly finish destroying this nation, so that the rest of the sheeple will finally wake up and do something about it... :eek:

[xd9fan]

You can dismount at any time.
One thing is pretty clear....the downfall of this country didnt start today.
And the GOP HAS NO ANSWERS...hell they are the reason Obama will win.

You cant tell your base to Fu*k off, spend like your a madman, Bailout wallstreet, call people that care about the southern border "Vilgilantes", Create new branches of Govt, Display ZERO fiscal leadership. Blow your collective wad on foreign "wars"
and win another election.

Get off the crack.....the GOP lost 2008 well before 2008

[virgil47]

cheapseats, you seem to be one of the few on this board that understands what the future could hold for everday Americans. I firmly believe that if Obama wins and the congress remains democratic the America that we know will cease to exist. The first and second amendments are in danger of not just being watered down but of being completely expunged from the constitution. I suspect that the U.N constitution will be substituted for the American constitution.

[Doktor_Jeep]

Cheapseats,

there is a growing movement that hacks such as yourself are blind to.

So you can go on doing your job, I will go on doing mine.

And I suspect you get paid for yours.

[Anti Federalist]

These Obama supporters will blindly welcome the new-age tyranny with open arms as he disguises it with the flag and patriotism.

Yup. They'll welcome it and defend it.
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[Revolution9]

Obama could be bad for America and may become a puppet in the hands of anti american groups like aipac but GOP has been a disaster itself and there's not huge difference between Obama & McCain.

The way Republicans treated Ron Paul and libertarian movement, they deserve a crushing defeat in election for that on top of disastrous last 8 years policies.

The difference is splitting the two parts of government so there is gridlock. Other than that a troika of either party exists and that is dangerous to the max in these times. If you were gonna throw away a vote on a major party the correct wisdom of your forefathers was to split the vote and have one party in Congress and the other in The White House. You Obama shills failed miserably at this analysis and think yer shit won't stink.. Well you just handed the keys over to a drunk who is gonna drive.

Randy

[CountryboyRonPaul]

I blame the GOP for silencing Ron Paul.

We all know McCain's campaign strategy once he won the primaries was to roll over and play dead.

Seriously...

Mr. McCain, another question about electability.... Do you have any sir?