Traitors

[kathy88]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

[literatim]

I agree.

[Cowlesy]

Just remember if you vote for one of them, you can never take that vote back.

[sevin]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

Although I completely agree, saying "fuck everyone who voted for either of them" is not the best way to reach someone, IMO.

[nodope0695]

Shills and trolls will be revealing themselves today....take it with a grain of salt.

I'm gonna keep my choice to myself, regardless of who I vote for (if at all for potus).

[moostraks]

We all do what we feel we morally must do, but I am sorely disheartened by the number of people who are caving to msm's pressure to conform and rationalizing it by some long winded version of the lesser of 2 evils theory...

Looking forward to better tomorrows and may the sunshine patriots take their leave. We will be continuing the work for cause of liberty with the true patriots left after today.

[speciallyblend]

well in my eyes ,we have a better chance to take back the gop when it loses,but if mccain was to win, then i am sorry,someone please explain how we can take back the gop,when the neo-con bush agenda wins an election?? i didn't vote for either but i fully understand anyone voting obama out of fear of mccain. obama will be better for us if our goal is to reclaim the gop, obama is a blessing in disguise for us republicans and i am proud of anyone who did not vote for mccain.
Baldwin 08 or anyone but mccain

nothing to do with lesser of 2 evils,just the best way to bring back the gop is to let the drug addict(gop) to lose its ass on election day..

i respect any vote that is not for mccain

[Cowlesy]

We all do what we feel we morally must do, but I am sorely disheartened by the number of people who are caving to msm's pressure to conform and rationalizing it by some long winded version of the lesser of 2 evils theory...

Looking forward to better tomorrows and may the sunshine patriots take their leave. We will be continuing the work for cause of liberty with the true patriots left after today.

Well said.

[nodope0695]

Although I completely agree, saying "fuck everyone who voted for either of them" is not the best way to reach someone, IMO.


Uhhh...I don't think he was trying to reach anybody:D

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I agree. Now we see how effective the media machine really is--even whipping those who would otherwise be their opponents back into line. And how? Demonization. This is the key to everything. Make you hate and cower under the table before the other guy so much that you're willing to vote for the other major party opponent.

Liberals who'd otherwise go for Nader or McKinney line up to vote against the tyrannical warmonger. And Libertarians and conservatives who would clearly pick Baldwin or Barr break for McCain at the last minute just because they can't stand that stinking Marxist.

The elites aren't stupid. They rule primarily by fear, and thankfully for them, that is usually enough. Why rig the elections when you can rig the minds of the people by whipping them into such a snarling frenzy or a pitiful vote of disgust for/against Obama and McCain? The tampered machines are just there for a little extra bump.

[brandon]

How can anyone still think their vote matters...even a little bit?

[wgadget]

News is that in that tiny New Hampshire town, (can't remember the name, but they're the first to vote), had TWO Ron Paul write-ins....And that is out of about 20 votes total!!!!

10% ain't bad, when you're not even on the ballot.

I predict we will really send a message this year, whether we write in Ron Paul or vote third party.

[Pete]

I predict we will really send a message this year, whether we write in Ron Paul or vote third party.

I would be thrilled with a surprisingly large percentage going to third parties this year but, alas, it appears that this will not be the case. I hope I'm wrong.

Incredible how these fools are whipping themselves into a frenzy over Castro vs. Mussolini. :(

[Revolution9]

Although I completely agree, saying "fuck everyone who voted for either of them" is not the best way to reach someone, IMO.

No.. The best way to reach them is with a size ten motorcycle boot up their ass.

HTH
randy

[klamath]

Just remember if you vote for one of them, you can never take that vote back.

And remember the ones that voted for the winner will be the ones in our targets on these forums as we gasp in horror at what the winner is doing in the coming years.

[ShowMeLiberty]

well in my eyes ,we have a better chance to take back the gop when it loses,but if mccain was to win, then i am sorry,someone please explain how we can take back the gop,when the neo-con bush agenda wins an election?? i didn't vote for either but i fully understand anyone voting obama out of fear of mccain. obama will be better for us if our goal is to reclaim the gop, obama is a blessing in disguise for us republicans and i am proud of anyone who did not vote for mccain.
Baldwin 08 or anyone but mccain

nothing to do with lesser of 2 evils,just the best way to bring back the gop is to let the drug addict(gop) to lose its ass on election day..

i respect any vote that is not for mccain

Whatever the outcome of this election, I've been thinking lately that we'd have a better chance of taking the Libertarian Party back from the neocons than we have of taking back the GOP. I'm seriously considering making that my goal after this election.


How can anyone still think their vote matter...even a little bit?

I have to. Seriously. Otherwise life is a horror movie with no end.


No.. The best way to reach them is with a size ten motorcycle boot up their ass.

HTH
randy

Hey, Randy! Glad to see you back, man. Been missing you around here. :)

[Conza88]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.


http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/gator_momma/Applause.gif

:D

I'm using the occasion to vent on those that really, do, truly deserve it. Of course they don't think so... they're doing everything they possibly can to justify it to themselves..

I kind of see it like Atlas Shrugged... they can't face up to the reality... and do everything they can to avoid it.

You voted for McCain or Obama today... if you voted for the lesser of two evils. Take a GOOOOOD, LOOOOONG, hard look at yourselves in the mirror.

No seriously, get up now - go to the mirror & look yourself in the eyes for a good long time.

Then think of the theft, coercion and unspeakable actions that will soon be done in your candidates name. The person YOU voted for.

You fail at life. Enjoy it while it lasts. May you all find solace in your sell out existence.

[Primbs]

There are many republicans who would speak up to join a small limited government movement inside the GOP if there is a leader that looks like a winner.

Many of the Republicans just follow the leadership even if they know in their hearts that the wrong policies are being advocated.

[tmosley]

I can understand voting for Obama only inasmuch as it would open up another Ron Paul (or equivalent) run in 2012. Voting for him because he's the "lesser of two evils" is just stupid.

That said, I voted for Barr, and even that made me queasy (I have an intense personal distaste for the man, and I can't support the theocratic leanings of the "Constitution" party). It was only on hopes that next time around they will automatically be on the ballot, and won't have to spend all their money on getting on the ballot everywhere.

[Anti Federalist]

Although I completely agree, saying "fuck everyone who voted for either of them" is not the best way to reach someone, IMO.

Ah, fuck 'em.

I...Have Had...ENOUGH.:mad:

What the flying fuck is the point of all the work and money and time if a large portion is just going to jump ship and go wobbly at the very first sign of trouble.

I'm tired of trying to "reach out" to people who are so disconnected from reality that they would vote for McBama after all they have seen over the past year.

Fluoridated brain soup, wishy washy, soft and squishy assholes...Can you even remember what you had for breakfast this morning?

FFS it's not even like it matters, the statistically small amount of people in the RP movement won't affect the marxist juggernaut that is coming down the pike.

Fer crying out fucking loud, grow a fucking set, chuck the fear, and do the right fucking thing.

I'm so fucking pissed this morning I can't even see straight.

"I'm voting for McBama cuz"...what a bunch of fucking tools.:mad::mad::mad:

ARRRRRRRGH...FFS:mad::mad::mad:

[Conza88]

ah, fuck 'em.

I...have had...enough.:mad:

What the flying fuck is the point of all the work and money and time if a large portion is just going to jump ship and go wobbly at the very first sign of trouble.

I'm tired of trying to "reach out" to people who are so disconnected from reality that they would vote for mcbama after all they have seen over the past year.

Fluoridated brain soup, wishy washy, soft and squishy assholes...can you even remember what you had for breakfast this morning?

Ffs it's not even like it matters, the statistically small amount of people in the rp movement won't affect the marxist juggernaut that is coming down the pike.

Fer crying out fucking loud, grow a fucking set, chuck the fear, and do the right fucking thing.

I'm so fucking pissed this morning i can't even see straight.

"i'm voting for mcbama cuz"...what a bunch of fucking tools.:mad::mad::mad:

Arrrrrrrgh...ffs:mad::mad::mad:

+1776....

[Bumnah]

people are scared.
people want to believe obama will be real change.

get off your high horse.

I contemplated voting for Obama as well, but making the statement that I don't like either candidate was more important.

[angelatc]

+1776....

What Conza said...

[Original_Intent]

What Conza said...

What angelatc said

[liberteebell]

What angelatc said

What Original_Intent said. :cool:

[Danke]

What Original_Intent said. :cool:



What Liberteebell said.

And:

http://digg.com/political_opinion/2_socialists_for_price_of_1

[Conza88]

^ Hahah :D!

Comment added.

[tmosley]

Most people don't see what we see. Don't give up. We can't give up on getting our message out there. If we keep working, we can make real progress for the next election.

It'll snowball at some point. We just have to push it until then. The Revolution has begun, it just hasn't hit Main Street yet.

[self-evident]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

A. Fucking. Men.

[georgiaboy]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/gator_momma/Applause.gif

:D

I'm using the occasion to vent on those that really, do, truly deserve it. Of course they don't think so... they're doing everything they possibly can to justify it to themselves..

I kind of see it like Atlas Shrugged... they can't face up to the reality... and do everything they can to avoid it.

You voted for McCain or Obama today... if you voted for the lesser of two evils. Take a GOOOOOD, LOOOOONG, hard look at yourselves in the mirror.

No seriously, get up now - go to the mirror & look yourself in the eyes for a good long time.

Then think of the theft, coercion and unspeakable actions that will soon be done in your candidates name. The person YOU voted for.

You fail at life. Enjoy it while it lasts. May you all find solace in your sell out existence.

Repeated and bolded for emphasis. Realize that you didn't vote against someone, you voted FOR someone. And in the case of the R & D candidates, you voted for BAILOUTERS. Pause for a moment and realize what those single bailout votes did to future generations of Americans.

Each of our votes does count. Ever seen a drop of rain hit a pond, and the ringlets that ensue? Ever been in a dark room and lit a match? Action/reaction, cause/effect. A single vote sends a loud, clear message. Think of the decades of Ron Paul's single vote in the House of Representatives. Think of all the times in the next four years in conversation where you'll get to say for whom you voted for president in 2008. Think of the impact this could have on those around you when people are searching for answers to our country's problems.

[Original_Intent]

Most people don't see what we see. Don't give up. We can't give up on getting our message out there. If we keep working, we can make real progress for the next election.

It'll snowball at some point. We just have to push it until then. The Revolution has begun, it just hasn't hit Main Street yet.

True. But anyone posting here should know better.

[Anti Federalist]

people are scared.
people want to believe obama will be real change.

get off your high horse.

I contemplated voting for Obama as well, but making the statement that I don't like either candidate was more important.

Yeah, so am I.

Courage is defined by doing the right thing even when scared shitless.:mad:

[EndTheFed]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

Hey all you traitors... sinse you really aren't traitors... you can go post

here http://wethepeoplespace.com/forums/

[moostraks]

No..they are traitors, however well intentioned they may feel their vote was when placed. A vote for r or d just reinforces everything we fought so hard to abolish. Your voice was silenced through fear and we have the right to voice disgust, frustration, and contempt. Heaped upon the heads of those who knew better but shook in fear when the call to stand up for the values of liberty and peace were put forth. They are no different than the sychophants who voted for someone other than Paul during the primaries because msm said "he could not win" even though Paul was a candidate who best represented their views.

A tongue-lashing should be the least of their worries as they were be culpable for what ever evil is perpetrated by their candidate of choice.

[JK/SEA]

Hey all you traitors... sinse you really aren't traitors... you can go post

here http://wethepeoplespace.com/forums/

read post #20..read it twice, print it out and staple it to you fore head.

thankyou. have a 'nice' day..

[Feenix566]

Wanna talk about how effective the mainstream media is? Okay, lets do that. They sure have been effective here. Everyond on this forum has fallen for their charade.

Here's the simple truth: your vote in the general presidential election doesn't matter. Once the primaries were finished, and the two major party candidates were picked, at that point it was already too late for the presidential election to change anything, for two reasons: Obama and McCain are basically the same, and the President doesn't have the real power in America. The Congress does.

The general presidential election is nothing more than a distraction. Like a skilled magician, the oligarchs of this country have kept your eyes on center stage while the man behind the curtain makes the real decisions. Congratulations, you've been distracted!

[Anti Federalist]

no..they are traitors, however well intentioned they may feel their vote was when placed. A vote for r or d just reinforces everything we fought so hard to abolish. Your voice was silenced through fear and we have the right to voice disgust, frustration, and contempt. Heaped upon the heads of those who knew better but shook in fear when the call to stand up for the values of liberty and peace were put forth. They are no different than the sychophants who voted for someone other than paul during the primaries because msm said "he could not win" even though paul was a candidate who best represented their views.

A tongue-lashing should be the least of their worries as they were be culpable for what ever evil is perpetrated by their candidate of choice.

+1776

[Anti Federalist]

read post #20..read it twice, print it out and staple it to you fore head.

thankyou. have a 'nice' day..

http://i.pbase.com/g6/20/695220/2/72630858.4XkABRkT.jpg

[speciallyblend]

once again the only person to blame for people voting for obama is john mccain and the corrupt gop. that is where the true blame is!!!!

[bobbysheldon]

Ah, fuck 'em.

I...Have Had...ENOUGH.:mad:

What the flying fuck is the point of all the work and money and time if a large portion is just going to jump ship and go wobbly at the very first sign of trouble.

I'm tired of trying to "reach out" to people who are so disconnected from reality that they would vote for McBama after all they have seen over the past year.

Fluoridated brain soup, wishy washy, soft and squishy assholes...Can you even remember what you had for breakfast this morning?

FFS it's not even like it matters, the statistically small amount of people in the RP movement won't affect the marxist juggernaut that is coming down the pike.

Fer crying out fucking loud, grow a fucking set, chuck the fear, and do the right fucking thing.

I'm so fucking pissed this morning I can't even see straight.

"I'm voting for McBama cuz"...what a bunch of fucking tools.:mad::mad::mad:

ARRRRRRRGH...FFS:mad::mad::mad:

+1776

You people want to be a part of the REVOLUTION...you'd better start putting your votes where your mouth is. Otherwise you're nothing more than a turncoat, plain and simple.

This movement is at it's very foundation an educational movement regarding the intentions that the founders had for this country and if anyone on these forums who call themselves educated or enlightend to this knowledge can then in good conscience vote for either McCain or Obama you are neither educated nor in good conscience. You've, at the last, most crucial moment, allowed yourself to fail.

May god have mercy on your soul

[heavenlyboy34]

+1776

You people want to be a part of the REVOLUTION...you'd better start putting your votes where your mouth is. Otherwise you're nothing more than a turncoat, plain and simple.

This movement is at it's very foundation an educational movement regarding the intentions that the founders had for this country and if anyone on these forums who call themselves educated or enlightend to this knowledge can then in good conscience vote for either McCain or Obama you are neither educated nor in good conscience. You've, at the last, most crucial moment, allowed yourself to fail.

May god have mercy on your soul

+1 for truth :)

[Anti Federalist]

You've, at the last, most crucial moment, allowed yourself to fail.

Back stabbing, Benedict Arnold, crimping and folding, weak kneed pansies.

You people who did this: you don't DESERVE freedom.:mad::mad::mad:

[tmosley]

the President doesn't have the real power in America. The Congress does.

lolwut

The exiting administration presided over the largest expansion of executive power in US history, arguably greater than the New Deal. I mean, the guy is less than a step away from seizing full dictatorial power.

Congress has enabled that, certainly, but they aren't the ones with the power now.

[speciallyblend]

Whatever the outcome of this election, I've been thinking lately that we'd have a better chance of taking the Libertarian Party back from the neocons than we have of taking back the GOP. I'm seriously considering making that my goal after this election.



I have to. Seriously. Otherwise life is a horror movie with no end.



Hey, Randy! Glad to see you back, man. Been missing you around here. :)

i would agree,now how the hell do we ge rid of the barr neo-con wing of the lp??
I was a lp voter for 12 yrs before i heard Ron Paul and became a republican. Oneway or another i will support a liberty candidate,but i was really let down by the lp/gop this election,hopefully something will happen soon to change something. LP/GOP just GIVE ME something better, then this lowsy one party system!!!

[moostraks]

Wanna talk about how effective the mainstream media is? Okay, lets do that. They sure have been effective here. Everyond on this forum has fallen for their charade.

Here's the simple truth: your vote in the general presidential election doesn't matter. Once the primaries were finished, and the two major party candidates were picked, at that point it was already too late for the presidential election to change anything, for two reasons: Obama and McCain are basically the same, and the President doesn't have the real power in America. The Congress does.

The general presidential election is nothing more than a distraction. Like a skilled magician, the oligarchs of this country have kept your eyes on center stage while the man behind the curtain makes the real decisions. Congratulations, you've been distracted!

Tell me again about the bailout and who Paulson was chosen by...

What matters is going against the system and being vocal about it. Many agree on the questionable nature of voting, but the power is not so much in Congress as a select few well funded hands. Many of us aren't as naive as you may think.;)
We can sit and let the day pass by or we can make our presence known.

[ClockwiseSpark]

Hey all you traitors... sinse you really aren't traitors... you can go post

here http://wethepeoplespace.com/forums/

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Everyone online points and laughs at you, you just can't see them.
You get promoted to Wal-Mart greeter.
Someone has to invent a retard to english translator to comprehend your illegible nonsense.
Solutions:
Get a proper education and stay in school.
Don't do drugs.
Proofread.
Don't eat glue.

[Anti Federalist]

To the Traitors:
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[EndTheFed]

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Common Reasons:
Lack of education.
Subpar brain mass.
Abuse of drugs, paint, glue, or permanent markers.
You have the mentality of a toddler.
End Result:
You look like a retard.
Nobody values your opinion because you're assumed to be a 9 year old.
You aren't socially accepted and slowly take up an alcohol or drug addiction.
Everyone online points and laughs at you, you just can't see them.
You get promoted to Wal-Mart greeter.
Someone has to invent a retard to english translator to comprehend your illegible nonsense.
Solutions:
Get a proper education and stay in school.
Don't do drugs.
Proofread.
Don't eat glue.

That is Paultard to you...

[Anti Federalist]

Learn To Spell
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Smart peeple dont allwayz hav too spel good their is diferant tipes of smartnes.
This is teh msn langage, ur not kool unles u tipe liek this.
I no how 2 tipe I jus dont wanna cuz I dun fell liek it.
7h15 m4k3z m3 k00l, d1d3n7 u 533 73h m00v13 h4x0rz?
I wuz mising sum of my speling bloks and dident lern good.
Common Reasons:
Lack of education.
Subpar brain mass.
Abuse of drugs, paint, glue, or permanent markers.
You have the mentality of a toddler.
End Result:
You look like a retard.
Nobody values your opinion because you're assumed to be a 9 year old.
You aren't socially accepted and slowly take up an alcohol or drug addiction.
Everyone online points and laughs at you, you just can't see them.
You get promoted to Wal-Mart greeter.
Someone has to invent a retard to english translator to comprehend your illegible nonsense.
Solutions:
Get a proper education and stay in school.
Don't do drugs.
Proofread.
Don't eat glue.

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[kathy88]

Ah, fuck 'em.

I...Have Had...ENOUGH.:mad:

What the flying fuck is the point of all the work and money and time if a large portion is just going to jump ship and go wobbly at the very first sign of trouble.

I'm tired of trying to "reach out" to people who are so disconnected from reality that they would vote for McBama after all they have seen over the past year.

Fluoridated brain soup, wishy washy, soft and squishy assholes...Can you even remember what you had for breakfast this morning?

FFS it's not even like it matters, the statistically small amount of people in the RP movement won't affect the marxist juggernaut that is coming down the pike.

Fer crying out fucking loud, grow a fucking set, chuck the fear, and do the right fucking thing.

I'm so fucking pissed this morning I can't even see straight.

"I'm voting for McBama cuz"...what a bunch of fucking tools.:mad::mad::mad:

ARRRRRRRGH...FFS:mad::mad::mad:



I was pleased to come in after work and see the responses to my tirade this morning. I'm even madder now after listening to the ass clowns I work with justify their votes. Not ONE of them voted FOR someone they believed in. Just against the one they disliked the most. The consensus among them was overwhelmingly that voting for ANYONE other than McCain or Obama was a wasted vote. At one point I went out to smoke and almost cried at our fate.

[Anti Federalist]

I was pleased to come in after work and see the responses to my tirade this morning. I'm even madder now after listening to the ass clowns I work with justify their votes. Not ONE of them voted FOR someone they believed in. Just against the one they disliked the most. The consensus among them was overwhelmingly that voting for ANYONE other than McCain or Obama was a wasted vote. At one point I went out to smoke and almost cried at our fate.

Really sadder to see it here.

Of all people who should know better.:mad:

[moostraks]

anti-federalist: Nitpick says THANK YOU!!!!

[moostraks]

clockwisespark:

Thank you for posting re:spelling re-education. Maybe this needs stickied?

[sirachman]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

Way to bring everyone together. I'm sorry but people can disagree. The rEVOLution we all talk about is not going to happen by marking down a third party choice on a ballot, it is going to happen through long hard slow work at a local level which will culminate in policy changes and an educated public which can vote for the kind of president all of us here can support. Now I understand the argument for voting third party and it is a good one. The idea is that slowly the percentage of third party voters will cause more and more people to vote third party as third party candidates are seen as more and more "viable" by the public as a whole. However the reality is that until the public is educated enough to vote for something other than their wish to support a family heirloom party, or based on a catchphrase we as thinking Americans cannot realistically expect a third party candidate to win. It is obvious that no one thinks that a third party candidate will win, however while we can sit around all day and preach about what should be we need to think about what is. America's uneducated and easily led are electing our presidents, and until the day when we have made a major impact on educating the public the only thing voting third party is doing is allowing those who are uneducated to decide your president. It may feel good to fill in the colored dot or press that little square on the screen for a third party, but our fight is not that easy. The lesser of two evils argument is wrong, but the fight is much bigger and much harder than anything that is going on today. We must take the local offices in each of our states and educate every person we come across about the constitution and principles for which we stand in order to succeed that is the only way that we will truly make progress in this revolution. Please, no matter your personal views, your political origin or your level of disgust. Please do not attack those who stand with you. We all disagree on certain things, and some things we may disagree allot. However, all of us share love of country and constitution and we need to stand together.

[EndTheFed]

Way to bring everyone together. I'm sorry but people can disagree. The rEVOLution we all talk about is not going to happen by marking down a third party choice on a ballot, it is going to happen through long hard slow work at a local level which will culminate in policy changes and an educated public which can vote for the kind of president all of us here can support. Now I understand the argument for voting third party and it is a good one. The idea is that slowly the percentage of third party voters will cause more and more people to vote third party as third party candidates are seen as more and more "viable" by the public as a whole. However the reality is that until the public is educated enough to vote for something other than their wish to support a family heirloom party, or based on a catchphrase we as thinking Americans cannot realistically expect a third party candidate to win. It is obvious that no one thinks that a third party candidate will win, however while we can sit around all day and preach about what should be we need to think about what is. America's uneducated and easily led are electing our presidents, and until the day when we have made a major impact on educating the public the only thing voting third party is doing is allowing those who are uneducated to decide your president. It may feel good to fill in the colored dot or press that little square on the screen for a third party, but our fight is not that easy. The lesser of two evils argument is wrong, but the fight is much bigger and much harder than anything that is going on today. We must take the local offices in each of our states and educate every person we come across about the constitution and principles for which we stand in order to succeed that is the only way that we will truly make progress in this revolution. Please, no matter your personal views, your political origin or your level of disgust. Please do not attack those who stand with you. We all disagree on certain things, and some things we may disagree allot. However, all of us share love of country and constitution and we need to stand together.

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[kathy88]

Way to bring everyone together. I'm sorry but people can disagree. The rEVOLution we all talk about is not going to happen by marking down a third party choice on a ballot, it is going to happen through long hard slow work at a local level which will culminate in policy changes and an educated public which can vote for the kind of president all of us here can support. Now I understand the argument for voting third party and it is a good one. The idea is that slowly the percentage of third party voters will cause more and more people to vote third party as third party candidates are seen as more and more "viable" by the public as a whole. However the reality is that until the public is educated enough to vote for something other than their wish to support a family heirloom party, or based on a catchphrase we as thinking Americans cannot realistically expect a third party candidate to win. It is obvious that no one thinks that a third party candidate will win, however while we can sit around all day and preach about what should be we need to think about what is. America's uneducated and easily led are electing our presidents, and until the day when we have made a major impact on educating the public the only thing voting third party is doing is allowing those who are uneducated to decide your president. It may feel good to fill in the colored dot or press that little square on the screen for a third party, but our fight is not that easy. The lesser of two evils argument is wrong, but the fight is much bigger and much harder than anything that is going on today. We must take the local offices in each of our states and educate every person we come across about the constitution and principles for which we stand in order to succeed that is the only way that we will truly make progress in this revolution. Please, no matter your personal views, your political origin or your level of disgust. Please do not attack those who stand with you. We all disagree on certain things, and some things we may disagree allot. However, all of us share love of country and constitution and we need to stand together.

I didn't attack anyone who stood with me. Those who stand with me would NEVER place fear above values. Those who I was "attacking" voted FOR someone and something that will make MY life harder by saying "IT'S OKAY THAT I DESPISE EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR BUT I WILL VOTE FOR YOU ANYWAY." I will take it up the ass in the money I make and the taxes I pay and the lazy people my money supports and the $4.00 a gallon gas and skyrocketing energy costs and the destruction of my civil liberties and the hollowing out of my very soul. If you've been involved in any way, shape or form in this thing at all you know in your heart that anything other than a third party vote, a vote for RP, or a no vote is a vote for the way things are. Are Americans so competitive that they have to be on the winning side? I have to step away. I'm seething.

If those that voted for McCain or Obama don't feel that way, then they never got it to begin with, perhaps it was "fashionable" to "join a revolution."

[sirachman]

Wow. It saddens me to see how fast friends and allies will stab each other in the back over a presidential election that does not matter. If you actually read what I wrote you would understand my point.

[kathy88]

Wow. It saddens me to see how fast friends and allies will stab each other in the back over a presidential election that does not matter. If you actually read what I wrote you would understand my point.

I understand just fine, thank you.

And blow me. LOL.

[Theocrat]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

It comes from fear of the other candidate winning, kathy88.

[sirachman]

blow me
Thanks for your amazing contributions.

[literatim]

Wow. It saddens me to see how fast friends and allies will stab each other in the back over a presidential election that does not matter. If you actually read what I wrote you would understand my point.

You stabbed us in the back, not the other way around.

[JK/SEA]

So, a third party candidate can't win, so the logic is to vote for the prom king or the heisman trophy winner?

I fully realize a 3rd party can't win, at least yet. So what would be my logic to vote Baldwin? why would i, a Ron Paul delegate and PCO do that? am i crazy? am i missing something? what in the hell is wrong with me?

Could it be i know Obama is going to win regardless, so a vote for McCain is foolish and voting for Obama is redundant.

So, i figure if i'm in this loop to reform the GOP from the ashes of their upcoming defeat, that in the final analyisis McCain must lose and lose BIG. He lost the second he was nominated.

What i will be looking at when the vote totals come in is the total percentage of 3rd party candidates and the totals for Ron Paul.

Should be interesting to say the least.

[Anti Federalist]

I wrote in Ron Paul.

period. done. fuck off.

[nateerb]

Guys like sirachman were lurking here back in March, when I quit posting to this forum and quit bothering with the revolution. God bless people like kathy88 and Anti Federalist for sticking around this long.

Check me down as another who thinks you McBama voters on this forum are the worst kind of vermin. You may blow me as well.

Nate Erb
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

[The_Orlonater]

well in my eyes ,we have a better chance to take back the gop when it loses,but if mccain was to win, then i am sorry,someone please explain how we can take back the gop,when the neo-con bush agenda wins an election?? i didn't vote for either but i fully understand anyone voting obama out of fear of mccain. obama will be better for us if our goal is to reclaim the gop, obama is a blessing in disguise for us republicans and i am proud of anyone who did not vote for mccain.
Baldwin 08 or anyone but mccain

nothing to do with lesser of 2 evils,just the best way to bring back the gop is to let the drug addict(gop) to lose its ass on election day..

i respect any vote that is not for mccain

Fuck the GOP, I'm sticking with the Libs.

[kathy88]

Guys like sirachman were lurking here back in March, when I quit posting to this forum and quit bothering with the revolution. God bless people like kathy88 and Anti Federalist for sticking around this long.

Check me down as another who thinks you McBama voters on this forum are the worst kind of vermin. You may blow me as well.

Nate Erb
Milwaukee, Wisconsin



Damn Nate... If I wasn't married.... lol......

[sirachman]

Go ahead and play the blame game but the truth is that we arent and werent done yet. Peoples opinions have to be changed on actual issues. Maybe having more people voting party would have done something but I think the real effort going forward will not be in focusing on what happened today but on how we can continue what we started a long time ago a long time into the future. Some people choose to become uninvolved because people like me piss them off. To me its much more important than the name calling and immaturity of a few people it is about our country and freedoms and nomatter what a few people on these forums think I will continue with my actual efforts. Things werent going to be changed in this election and they werent. We lost bad with every liberty cantidate we ran, we didnt get Ron Paul nominated in the primaries, but we did educate alot of people on the country and woke them up enough to educate others in an entirely different way. As for me being a troll, a traitor, a fuck, a ......................... what the hell I dont give a shit what you think but by all means expouse whatever hate you have for me. I will continue to do what truly matters, and that is to try and educate and wake up the majority of america that actually decides elections instead of make enemies with people that share my same views on liberty by harrassing them over bullshit. Flame wars on the internet don't solve anything, but by all means flame on.

On another note, now that Obama is going to be the president hopefully the weakness of the Republican party will force it to lean more strongly towards liberty. Realising that that is a looong way to lean, but nonetheless..

[Anti Federalist]

Flame wars on the internet don't solve anything, but by all means flame on

It wasn't about "flame wars" on the internet.

It was about supposed "revolutionaries" crimping and folding right before our eyes.

And then getting pissed at us for calling them out.

And how they could not hold the line for just one freaking day, with a vote that wasn't going to matter anyway.

And how they couldn't even stand their ground for that one split second.

[Conza88]

^^

The TRUTH. As simple as that.

[Josh_LA]

How can ANYONE who comes to these forums regularly even CONSIDER voting for one of the big two? I'm reading with horror as people try to justify their actions in voting for either McCain or Obama and I'm simultaneously throwing up in my mouth a little. Boy, you really showed them. Way to conform and completely nullify what we are trying to do here. Fuck everyone who voted for either of them and then have the audacity to come here and talk about it.

are you saying you don't tolerate idiocy?

[xerigen]

All I know is that I will sleep WELL tonight knowing that I didn't vote for McBama. I hope anyone on these forums that did vote for McBama has terrible nightmares and sleepless nights about what will happen in the next 4 years because of their vote.

[moostraks]

It wasn't about "flame wars" on the internet.

It was about supposed "revolutionaries" crimping and folding right before our eyes.

And then getting pissed at us for calling them out.

And how they could not hold the line for just one freaking day, with a vote that wasn't going to matter anyway.

And how they couldn't even stand their ground for that one split second.

How superbly spoken! Then to be incensed or hurt that we don't "understand their reasoning". We understand all too well. They were cowards when it could have really mattered to have made a stand because they lost Ron Paul in the primaries. THey were the ones taking their toys and going home but sadly enough knowing home is where they will be abused and they were just too chicken to run away and see if life wouldn't treat them better out from under the thumb of the abuses. So called "revolutionaries" deserve all the scorn those of us who did not cave can heap upon them!!! Then we shall lick our wounds and move on but trust is a hard thing to come by and in a pinch those who caved will NOT find themselves in a position of trust.

[nobody's_hero]

May their chains set lightly upon them. (http://books.google.com/books?id=-S0LAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=%22COUNTRYMEN+AND+BRETHREN+I+would+gladly%22)