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max
11-03-2008, 08:58 PM
an impressive list of fools....both black and white.......

u'd think with all the free time these ass clowns have during the off season they'd have educated themselves better by now.....

The Boston Globe just released a Partial list of names of over 500 professional millionaire athletes who have publicly endorsed Barack Obama for President. It is the largest ever collection of professional athletes to ever back any Presidential candidate. Over $ 15 million dollars were also raised by this group of athletes collectively.

A Partial list of some of the the most popular names:

GOLF ( 31 Past & Current Professional Golfers)

Tiger Woods
Nick Faldo
John Daly

TENNIS ( 42 Past & Current Tennis Players)
Andre Agassi & Steffi Graff
Jimmy Connors
Pete Sampras
Andy Roddick
Venus & Serena Williams
Michael Chang
Martina Navratilova
Jennifer Capriati
James Blake

BASKETBALL ( 162 current & past NBA Players, coaches)
Lebron James , Larry Bird, Magic Johnson,
Michael Jordan, Bill Walton, Paul Pierce,
Kevin Garnett, Coach Pat Riley, Coach Phil Jackson, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Steve Nash,
Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Coach Terry Porter
Bill Bradley, Coach Rick Pitino, Coach Gregg Popovich , Coach Mike Krzyzewski, Allen Iverson, Reggie Miller, Joe Dumars, Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Amare Stoudamaire, Alonzo Mourning, Grant Hill

BASEBALL ( 133 past & current MBL players, coaches)
Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Matt Holliday,
Jose Reyes, Jake Peavy, David Ortiz,
Alfonso Soriano, Manny Ramirez, Jorge Posadas
Gary Carter, Keith Hernandez

Jeremy
11-03-2008, 09:11 PM
Хвала и слава нашим благородным спасителем Обама (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4)

Original_Intent
11-03-2008, 09:16 PM
Wow those guys all make over 250K/yr.....

hopeforamerica
11-03-2008, 09:54 PM
Even Charles Barkley? Say it isn't so!

Kludge
11-03-2008, 09:56 PM
When? Was this in one organized event or over the course of the election?

danberkeley
11-04-2008, 12:05 AM
Even Charles Barkley? Say it isn't so!

No way! In that case, Will.I.Am probably raised money for Obama too. Un-freakin-lievable!

libertarian4321
11-04-2008, 12:12 AM
Coach Gregg Popovich, Tim Duncan

Go Spurs Go!

Obama has donations from millions of Americans- he supposedly has the longest donor list in the nation's history.

Why would it be surprising that athletes would be included?

TruthAtLast
11-04-2008, 12:13 AM
Wow those guys all make over 250K/yr.....

I've never understood why Hollywood and rich people support Obama. Am I missing something? Someone explain this to me.

Are they REALLY that clueless? Can they really not see that the country is moving right passed a socialist state and into a communist state?

Do they just hate George Bush THAT much that the Republican party is tainted? I don't get it!

Jeremy
11-04-2008, 12:15 AM
I've never understood why Hollywood and rich people support Obama. Am I missing something? Someone explain this to me.

Are they REALLY that clueless? Can they really not see that the country is moving right passed a socialist state and into a communist state?

Do they just hate George Bush THAT much that the Republican party is tainted? I don't get it!
Haven't those people always been the communist-leaning?

It's funny, because you always have people trying to say that rich people are libertarians and greedy. All the rich people I know are socialists. And look at everyone here at RPF! We're all poor! Anyway, Ludwig von Mises has a really good comment on those Hollywood rich folks in Economic Policy: Thoughts for Today and Tomorrow.

libertarian4321
11-04-2008, 12:16 AM
Do they just hate George Bush THAT much that the Republican party is tainted?

After 8 years of watching the walking disaster that is George W. Bush, some people are willing to try anything to change course.

McCain offers 4 more years.

They sure aren't going to vote for some obscure third party guy who has no chance to crack 1%.

Who do you think they'd support?

Jeremy
11-04-2008, 12:17 AM
After 8 years of watching the walking disaster that is George W. Bush, some people are willing to try anything to change course.

McCain offers 4 more years.

They sure aren't going to vote for some obscure third party guy who has no chance to crack 1%.

Who do you think they'd support?

Give it a break dude. These are RON PAUL forums.

TruthAtLast
11-04-2008, 12:18 AM
After 8 years of watching the walking disaster that is George W. Bush, some people are willing to try anything to change course.

McCain offers 4 more years.

They sure aren't going to vote for some obscure third party guy who has no chance to crack 1%.

Who do you think they'd support?

I'd think they would do even a little bit of homework and realize that "CHANGE" doesn't mean positive change. As hard as it is to believe... YES there are alternatives MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than Bush. And god forbid someone vote on principle, even if they think they can't win. It seems that everyone just wants to pick the "winner" because they don't want to admit to their friends that they voted for the guy that lost. lol

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 12:18 AM
I support neither party.

But...

I reckon you Dill - wadd Bush supporters who are preaching the same mantra for McCain, that you did for George Bush...

Should have your fricking heads examined!

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 12:22 AM
Give it a break dude. These are RON PAUL forums.

Ron Paul does not support John McCain.

Give me a break Dude.

Jeremy
11-04-2008, 12:23 AM
Ron Paul does not support John McCain.

Give me a break Dude.

He doesn't support Barack Obama either. :|

Give me a break.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 12:23 AM
Give it a break dude. These are RON PAUL forums.

Ron Paul supports the Constitution Party.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 12:24 AM
Bite me!

Jeremy
11-04-2008, 12:25 AM
Ron Paul supports the Constitution Party.

I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin silly. But the guy I quoted voted for Barack Obama and is now trying to convince other people to vote for Obama here at the Ron Paul Forums.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 12:30 AM
I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin silly. But the guy I quoted voted for Barack Obama and is now trying to convince other people to vote for Obama here at the Ron Paul Forums.

Your choices are self explanatory. You guys makes yerr choices... :rolleyes:

TruthAtLast
11-04-2008, 12:32 AM
I support neither party.

But...

I reckon you Dill - wadd Bush supporters who are preaching the same mantra for McCain, that you did for George Bush...

Should have your fricking heads examined!

Anyone who votes for Obama should have their head examined.

This guy is a Communist/Marxist who wants a New New Deal and will implement policies that we WILL NOT recover from. Everyone seems to think this is a temporary setback and "we'll show that darn GOP for ignoring us". Seems a lot of people would cut off their nose to spite their face.

We haven't recovered from the New Deal or the Great Society. This isn't a mere 4 year downturn that we'll have to suffer through. We are talking about a PERMANENT shift that will not be able to be reversed.

I honestly don't think people really appreciate how bad things will get. It seems everyone just wants to say "I told you so" and let the country crumble. For those people, let me give you a little hint.... The GOP doesn't blame us and they wont accept us or our Movement even if they get blown out by 200 electoral votes. And the economy WILL NOT rebound until everything we know that is American is destroyed first. The damage an Obama administration with a filibuster-proof Congress can do may usher in the end of everything we believe in and we may not see it reversed in our lifetime unless our Movement can pull off a miracle in the 2010 and 2012. But I don't see our group galvanizing. I see it fracturing.

McCain is also on the road to hell but he isn't on the express train. I think people in this Movement are so scarred from the crap the GOP pulled on us, that they are willing to do anything to make SURE they lose. We aren't just talking about voting third party (which I am), but actually voting for Obama.

There IS NO excuse anyone can give me for voting for Obama, no matter how much you hate McCain.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 12:38 AM
Anyone who votes for Obama should have their head examined.

This guy is a Communist/Marxist who wants a New New Deal and will implement policies that we WILL NOT recover from. Everyone seems to think this is a temporary setback and "we'll show that darn GOP for ignoring us". Seems a lot of people would cut off their nose to spite their face.

We haven't recovered from the New Deal or the Great Society. This isn't a mere 4 year downturn that we'll have to suffer through. We are talking about a PERMANENT shift that will not be able to be reversed.

I honestly don't think people really appreciate how bad things will get. It seems everyone just wants to say "I told you so" and let the country crumble. For those people, let me give you a little hint.... The GOP doesn't blame us and they wont accept us or our Movement even if they get blown out by 200 electoral votes. And the economy WILL NOT rebound until everything we know that is American is destroyed first. The damage an Obama administration with a filibuster-proof Congress can do may usher in the end of everything we believe in and we may not see it reversed in our lifetime unless our Movement can pull off a miracle in the 2010 and 2012. But I don't see our group galvanizing. I see it fracturing.

McCain is also on the road to hell but he isn't on the express train. I think people in this Movement are so scarred from the crap the GOP pulled on us, that they are willing to do anything to make SURE they lose. We aren't just talking about voting third party (which I am), but actually voting for Obama.

There IS NO excuse anyone can give me for voting for Obama, no matter how much you hate McCain.


Mmmm... You sound like a Carl Rove zombie.

Guess you should reward the Republican Party with another 4 years.

The Republican Party treated Ron Paul with ultimate respect. Remember?

pacelli
11-04-2008, 12:43 AM
The Boston Globe just released a Partial list of names of over 500 professional millionaire athletes who have publicly endorsed Barack Obama for President. It is the largest ever collection of professional athletes to ever back any Presidential candidate. Over $ 15 million dollars were also raised by this group of athletes collectively.

They say "raised by" and not donated. Because truth be told, these 500 millionaires could only donate a maximum of $2.3 million collectively.

Primbs
11-04-2008, 12:47 AM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/03/for-many-caps-lack-of-vote-can-be-taxing/

Alexander Semin was talking with a Russian reporter after practice one day last week when the subject turned to politics.

Semin wanted to know who is going to win the upcoming presidential election. When told Sen. Barack Obama is the favorite, Semin responded, "I heard he's going to raise my taxes."

One of the clear divides between Obama and Sen. John McCain is their stance on taxes. The players, well-compensated for their work in the NHL, will expect to pay more in taxes if Obama wins. For this reason, it is safe to say there is a pro-McCain sentiment for the majority of the guys in the dressing room. "

alaric
11-04-2008, 12:53 AM
these are the ones who piss me off the most: Gary Carter, Keith Hernandez. I thought these guys had some sense! Keith really lost me with this and he's one of the Mets announcers. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Keith!

TruthAtLast
11-04-2008, 12:56 AM
Mmmm... You sound like a Carl Rove zombie.

Guess you should reward the Republican Party with another 4 years.

The Republican Party treated Ron Paul with ultimate respect. Remember?

I thought I remember JUST writing that I don't support McCain. :confused: As I said (but I'll repeat it in case you missed it the first time), I'm voting third party because I'd rather vote on principle for someone who "can't" win. My comment is based on the flawed strategy of voting for Obama to spite McCain. There is NO excuse for it.

I guess you're in the "we'll show them" crowd. Why are we only looking 6 inches in front of our face? This isn't about rewarding or punishing anyone. It is about the reality of the options that exist. The FACT is that there really IS a lesser of two evils. To think otherwise is a complete denial of reality.

alaric
11-04-2008, 12:56 AM
Mmmm... You sound like a Carl Rove zombie.

Guess you should reward the Republican Party with another 4 years.

The Republican Party treated Ron Paul with ultimate respect. Remember?

what the hell are you talking about? obama is a traitor, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else is voting for mccain. Neither one of them is worth a shit. I'm voting for Baldwin.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
11-04-2008, 01:11 AM
I've never understood why Hollywood and rich people support Obama. Am I missing something? Someone explain this to me.Variations of socialism date at least as far back as Plato, who advocated it for the sole reason that he believed he was qualified to run everyone else's lives. And that's essentially what centralized planning equates to: a dictatorship of supposed experts who've assumed control of substances, transportation, monetary policy, public projects, defense, etc. This is what's known as the power elite, today.

Now, most popular athletes have spent their lives being praised for a minute sphere of physical abilities, because our culture values entertainment above all else. How many times have you heard stories of athletes who believe themselves to be above the law, and are often treated as such? These people fancy themselves elite, so it's no surprise they'd posture themselves this way. It's reflective of the broader culture we're building - particularly the insane bum-rush to fill colleges. Everyone seems to think that digging in for a short spurt of relatively hard work and getting slapped with an "I gotsa dugree" sticker (or as is the case for the athletes, praise and attention) means they're suddenly entitled to a lifetime supply of silver platters.

reduen
11-04-2008, 01:12 AM
Communists, I thought Obama was a Socialists...?

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 01:18 AM
I am an Australian citizen. I funneled quantities of monies into the Ron Paul campaign, until he bit the dust in New Hampshire.

The reason I donated towards Ron Paul, is because he was a Libertarian who inspired me.

You guys choose your candidates.

All I gotta say is...

When a dog keeps pissing on your carpet, you get rid of him!

alaric
11-04-2008, 01:28 AM
Communists, I thought Obama was a Socialists...?

there's not much difference. communism is basically socialism on steroids.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 01:51 AM
Stop fucking whining!

You live in the worlds perfect democracy.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
11-04-2008, 01:52 AM
Stop fucking whining!

You live in the worlds perfect democracy.So all of that voter fraud that befell Kucinich and Paul must have just been a figment of my imagination :confused:

vodalian
11-04-2008, 01:54 AM
Stop fucking whining!

You live in the worlds perfect democracy.

LOL, thanks I needed a laugh. :)

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 01:57 AM
The combination of religious zealots, farnarckle journalism, and a strange perversion regarding future attacks from non - existent countries permeates Americas psychic.

Why don't you guys chill out?

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 02:00 AM
Move to New Zealand.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 02:06 AM
So all of that voter fraud that befell Kucinich and Paul must have just been a figment of my imagination :confused:

No kidding.

I have observed the primary process, and it is a travesty.

I hate outside authority.

Do enough of you feel the same?

alaric
11-04-2008, 02:08 AM
Stop fucking whining!

You live in the worlds perfect democracy.

it's supposed to be a constitutionally limited republic.

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 02:21 AM
[quote=alaric;1802205]it's supposed to be a constitutionally limited republic.[/quot

Shall the common man be pushed back into the mud, or shall he not?

alaric
11-04-2008, 02:35 AM
[quote=alaric;1802205]it's supposed to be a constitutionally limited republic.[/quot

Shall the common man be pushed back into the mud, or shall he not?

I'm having a hard time seeing your point. Are you saying a constitutionally limited republic is a bad thing? :confused:

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 02:57 AM
[quote=Ozwest;1802215]

I'm having a hard time seeing your point. Are you saying a constitutionally limited republic is a bad thing? :confused:

I donated 8000.00 towards Ron Paul through various relatives in the states.

Don't ask me stupid questions.

Because, you guys continue to elect gonads.

alaric
11-04-2008, 03:07 AM
[quote=alaric;1802218]

I donated 8000.00 towards Ron Paul through various relatives in the states.

Don't ask me stupid questions.

Because, you guys continue to elect gonads.

I don't elect gonads. I vote for real candidates, like Ron Paul. Our family could only afford to donate $1000, but I don't regret it. And while you're lumping all Americans with the brain dead sheeple who comprise the majority of the idiot voters here, take a look at the some of the raving socialists you Aussies have elected. Not saying you personally, but your elected officials are no better than ours.

Mini-Me
11-04-2008, 03:28 AM
I've never understood why Hollywood and rich people support Obama. Am I missing something? Someone explain this to me.

Are they REALLY that clueless? Can they really not see that the country is moving right passed a socialist state and into a communist state?

Do they just hate George Bush THAT much that the Republican party is tainted? I don't get it!

The way I see it, I think the political views of most celebrities stem from a deep-seated guilt for being so much more fortunate (financially) than just about everybody else, while making all that money from virtual dream jobs. Their wealth came so easily to them that they have a hard time truly understanding how hard other people must work to earn a comfortable living or build wealth, yet they're simultaneously heartbroken to hear how so many other people have trouble making ends meet. I believe they buy into the whole "spread the wealth" mantra because they want to do the "right thing," yet they're so completely far removed from the realities that ordinary people face that they don't really understand them...and their guilt also prevents them from even considering the possibility that they might be wrong, because they blindly assume that [forced] wealth redistribution is just, and they would probably feel ashamed if they even entertained the idea that it's not. After all, they derive self-worth from their generosity, and to reinforce this, they set themselves in opposition to the "heartless conservatives, who care only about keeping their own money and don't give a damn about anybody else." I imagine they believe that fiscal conservatives are either corporate fat cats or unfortunate misguided souls/crazy rednecks. Because celebrities are super-rich and surrounded by others like them, they probably believe that they along with corporate fat cats are the top 1% or 5% in terms of income, when really, most of them are well within the top 0.1%. This drastically skews their perception of who benefits from tax cuts "for the rich," especially considering the fact that politicians typically lie when they talk about repealing tax cuts for the "rich" or the "top 1% or 5%," when they're really talking about a much larger percentage of people to begin with (I could have sworn I heard a politician a few years back talking about the "top 1%, who makes more than $60,000 a year," when really, over 25% of people make that much). Speaking generally, it also seems their analysis of legislation and spending bills typically goes no further than a superficial glance at which people and causes the laws are supposedly intended to help, without considering any potential side effects. For instance, all regulations are meant to help little people and smack down greedy megacorporations, right? I mean, that's just so totally obvious that anyone who challenges the notion is crazy! ;) Talk to your garden-variety naive leftist - whether they're celebrities, coffee shop kids, or whoever - and they will immediately dismiss Ron Paul under the assumption that his policies would benefit large corporations and doom the rest of us. :rolleyes: Because they're so "enlightened" already, celebrities have no need to take a crash course in economics, the nature of liberty, or the dangers of government power. Many have no idea where wealth comes from (production). Just like most other people, they're conditioned by their surroundings to buy into one of the prevailing superficial political ideologies, and because people in general are irrational about politics, they don't recognize the flaws in their thinking, much less seek to remedy them.

Of course, I'm speaking mostly about movie stars here. I'm sure a lot of athletes are just flat-out ignoramuses. ;)

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 03:49 AM
[quote=Ozwest;1802222]

I don't elect gonads. I vote for real candidates, like Ron Paul. Our family could only afford to donate $1000, but I don't regret it. And while you're lumping all Americans with the brain dead sheeple who comprise the majority of the idiot voters here, take a look at the some of the raving socialists you Aussies have elected. Not saying you personally, but your elected officials are no better than ours.

Steady on mate.

Don't give me the Sarah Palin diatribe.

It's 7:10 P.M. here, and I whipped up a magnificent Tikka Massala (Indian), on a bed of rice topped with fresh coriander, lebanese cucumber and yoghurt.

If you reckon Aussies are raving socialists...

Name me one country who you approve of.

Wanker...

Ozwest
11-04-2008, 03:57 AM
Who is the dumb jock now?

Australia stood toe to toe with you in Vietnam. We have soldiers in Iraq and Afghanastan.

And you pay us out for being socialist?

Fuck you. No ones going to be your whipping post!

nbhadja
11-04-2008, 03:57 AM
After 8 years of watching the walking disaster that is George W. Bush, some people are willing to try anything to change course.

McCain offers 4 more years.

They sure aren't going to vote for some obscure third party guy who has no chance to crack 1%.

Who do you think they'd support?

Obama is the exact same as McCain.

Seriously could you stop being a communist obama shill for even one post??
You are a clueless Marxist, not a libertarian.

werdd
11-04-2008, 04:46 AM
john daly the guy who couldnt play because he would get so wasted?

max
11-04-2008, 08:39 AM
I've never understood why Hollywood and rich people support Obama. Am I missing something? Someone explain this to me.

Are they REALLY that clueless? Can they really not see that the country is moving right passed a socialist state and into a communist state?

Do they just hate George Bush THAT much that the Republican party is tainted? I don't get it!

because when your mega rich, higher taxes dont matter....these people have more money than they can spend


they live in fantasy world and cant understand that taxes hurt the rest of us because they cant relate to how a few hundred bucks a month in our pockets makes a difference for a working stiff

tonesforjonesbones
11-04-2008, 08:43 AM
They do this because they are CoMMUNISts and dispise the USA...Obama said he wants to change our National Anthem, he says he doesn't salute the flag because it is "offensive" to some people..and a symbol of oppression. he also says our Founding Fathers and the Constitution are symbols of oppression. Please wake UP people...we have a LOT of work to do if it is even possible now with this bastard in office. Here is a GOOD start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA

alaric
11-04-2008, 12:31 PM
[quote=alaric;1802224]

Steady on mate.

Don't give me the Sarah Palin diatribe.

It's 7:10 P.M. here, and I whipped up a magnificent Tikka Massala (Indian), on a bed of rice topped with fresh coriander, lebanese cucumber and yoghurt.

If you reckon Aussies are raving socialists...

Name me one country who you approve of.

Wanker...

Switzerland.

alaric
11-04-2008, 12:35 PM
Who is the dumb jock now?

Australia stood toe to toe with you in Vietnam. We have soldiers in Iraq and Afghanastan.

And you pay us out for being socialist?

Fuck you. No ones going to be your whipping post!

We had no business being in Vietnam, Iraq and even Korea is questionable. And I didn't vote for mccain or Palin. I voted for Baldwin. And what's with the fuck you? I'm using facts and reason and history.

alaric
11-04-2008, 12:38 PM
They do this because they are CoMMUNISts and dispise the USA...Obama said he wants to change our National Anthem, he says he doesn't salute the flag because it is "offensive" to some people..and a symbol of oppression. he also says our Founding Fathers and the Constitution are symbols of oppression. Please wake UP people...we have a LOT of work to do if it is even possible now with this bastard in office. Here is a GOOD start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA

with the preponderance of evidence that obama isn't even qualified to serve, on top of being a communist, muslim and a traitor, anyone who votes for him isn't paying attention.